Hard Boiled in Hi-Def on Stranglehold PS3 Special Edition Disc
Short and sweet. There was some confusion, but I just got confirmation that the Special Edition of Stranglehold on the Playstation 3 will indeed include a Remastered Hi-Def version of Hard Boiled. There was some confusion on whether the movie would be in standard definition or not.
I'm still in the camp that MS dropped the ball by not including a higher capacity disc system (HD or otherwise) as standard on the 360 and this is one of the reasons why.
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is it possible for MS to include a ticket in each game that allows you to download the HD movie via live market place? or is this one of those exclusive deals between sony and midway?
I'm thorn apart. This is a great incentive to get the PS3 version but the 360 controller feels so much better it's not even funny. Also, if the other multi-platform games released so far are any indication, the PS3 version could have performance issues as well. I guess I'll have to wait for reviews.
But waiting for reviews is for sucks!
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I'm still in the camp that MS dropped the ball by not including a higher capacity disc system (HD or otherwise) as standard on the 360 and this is one of the reasons why.
See i'm in the opposite camp. MS couldn't have done it and released the 360 at that $399. It would be at least a $599 console. Coming out early and getting a great library of games before the PS3 even launched was more important than a high density optical format. HD discs were barely even out when the 360 shipped.
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Stranglehold must not be too large (in GB) of a game if they can also fit the Blu-Ray movie on it. This is a double edged sword for Sony ....on hand they can say "See blu-ray helps because we can fit a movie on the same disk" and the other hand you can say "Well I guess we didn't need blu-ray just for the game".
Stranglehold must not be too large (in GB) of a game if they can also fit the Blu-Ray movie on it. This is a double edged sword for Sony ....on hand they can say "See blu-ray helps because we can fit a movie on the same disk" and the other hand you can say "Well I guess we didn't need blu-ray just for the game".
That depends on if they're using a single or double layer disc. Even if it's a single layer, each could still weigh in at 12GB.
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I'm still in the camp that MS dropped the ball by not including a higher capacity disc system (HD or otherwise) as standard on the 360 and this is one of the reasons why.
Because nothing makes a great game like a pack in movie that any fan of action already owns. This is a great bonus for people getting Stranglehold on the PS3 but it has no effect at all on the game. Which is what everyone will be buying the game for.
Has it been confirmed whether this is the dubbed or subbed version of the film yet? I can't believe they would include the crime-against-nature dubbed version but it is Sony.
I'm still in the camp that MS dropped the ball by not including a higher capacity disc system (HD or otherwise) as standard on the 360 and this is one of the reasons why.
See i'm in the opposite camp. MS couldn't have done it and released the 360 at that $399. It would be at least a $599 console. Coming out early and getting a great library of games before the PS3 even launched was more important than a high density optical format. HD discs were barely even out when the 360 shipped.
Well, I guess we won't find out until a few years from now. If developers actually take advantage of the higher capacity that Blu-Ray has to offer (other than simply not compressing textures/video), there may be games that aren't possible on 360 (or at very least require multiple disks).
Sony has said they want to have the PS3 around for at least 10 years. If that's the case, I think they made an excellent decision, using a high capacity disk.
DVD's may be fine now, but I remember only 3 or 4 years ago when CD's were fine.
These days, I find myself wishing I could get an affordable Blu-Ray burner for my PC. DVD's aren't cutting it any more (maybe I download too much shit, heh).
I agree that Blu-Ray isn't needed, at the moment. I think it's silly to say that it won't be needed a few years from now, though. Of course games will still be possible on DVD, but like I said, there may be things done on Blu-ray that aren't possible on DVD in the future.
Edit: Being a PC gamer, I've seen what it's like when not enough people have DVD drives in their PC's. It took up until about a year or two ago until most companies started bringing out their games on DVD. Before that (even during the Xbox/PS2 era, where their games were on DVD) most games came on multiple CD's.
And I mean multiple, when I say it. 4-6 CD installations. Assuming the PS3 stays around for 10 years... eventually they WILL be using double layer blu-ray disks. That will mirror the 4-6 CD issue on PC, when 360 is still stuck with DVD's. There are already some PC games that come on multiple DVD's (Myst 5 comes to mind). Yes, you could make them fit on a single DVD, but there WILL be compromises.
It's short sighted to think that DVD's will be sufficient a few years from now, especially since most games are coming close to filling up a double layer DVD already.
It's short sighted to think that DVD's will be sufficient a few years from now
Maybe it is a bit short sighted to think that developers will want to fill up HD disks. They need the budget to make all that content (hence PC3 Bluray disks will be filled with movies, CGI and music not real games data). Then again maybe they will be able to generate it with lots of nifty algorithms... games will get smaller.
BTW the whole of WoW fits on a DVD. Big does not mean better... in fact it probably means worse in most cases.
In the next generation we will have plenty of on-the-fly generated content (I am working in that field). Oblivion world and textures in 2015 will fit on a DVD and be 10 times bigger than Oblivion now.
It's short sighted to think that DVD's will be sufficient a few years from now, especially since most games are coming close to filling up a double layer DVD already.
I'm in the camp where I don't want to pay a premium for a feature (extra space for games) that may or may not be used down the road and if it is used in the future it's going to be a lot less expensive.
I agree that eventually DVDs will not be sufficient but when that time comes either another console generation will be out, they'll split games into multi and single player discs, allow the HD-DVD player for games (bad idea), or harddrives will be so cheap you'll just use that. Future proofing is a great concept until it's the future and there are better alternatives for cheaper.
Then again maybe they will be able to generate it with lots of nifty algorithms... games will get smaller.
Procedural generation has been around for a while, and games have continued to get larger and larger.
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BTW the whole of WoW fits on a DVD. Big does not mean better... in fact it probably means worse in most cases.
Wow.. I dunno if I could say that using more space means worst game. That's like saying the games that use all of the DVD now is worse than the ones that only use half.
I think most people will agree that there probably isn't much of a correlation between space used and how "good" a game is. I mean, Geometry Wars rocks and would easily fit on a CD. While Oblivion is awesome, and wouldn't fit on a CD. I think the extra space opens up the types of games you can have/and perhaps allows them to look prettier.
If we were still using 8 Meg cartridges we could probably still have Geometry Wars, but we would have a much harder time having an Oblivion or GTA.
Stranglehold must not be too large (in GB) of a game if they can also fit the Blu-Ray movie on it. This is a double edged sword for Sony ....on hand they can say "See blu-ray helps because we can fit a movie on the same disk" and the other hand you can say "Well I guess we didn't need blu-ray just for the game".
But isn't stuff like this the whole point of Blu-Ray? Also keep in mind that the game is also coming out for 360 so it has to be able to fit on a DVD. It's these kinds of extras that show that even multiplatform games are going to take advantage of Blu-Ray.
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I'm in the camp as well that by the time Blu-Ray is NEEDED, we will have moved on to newer systems. For this current gen, 360 is fine with DVD and looking at the majority of PS3 games released so far, the PS3 would have been fine with DVD as well.
Resistance took up triple the space of Gears of War on the disc and the game looked worse. More space doesn't mean better games. It just means tiny perks like this every once in a while.
The question, is this tiny non game related perk worth the $600 price of admission? Would it have been any different if this movie was packaged in on it's own disc?
Maybe it is a bit short sighted to think that developers will want to fill up HD disks. They need the budget to make all that content (hence PC3 Bluray disks will be filled with movies, CGI and music not real games data). Then again maybe they will be able to generate it with lots of nifty algorithms... games will get smaller.
BTW the whole of WoW fits on a DVD. Big does not mean better... in fact it probably means worse in most cases.
In the next generation we will have plenty of on-the-fly generated content (I am working in that field). Oblivion world and textures in 2015 will fit on a DVD and be 10 times bigger than Oblivion now.
Actually Wow including exp is more like 8 gigs of space when installed but the main game is on a dvd and aswell the exp is on a dvd.
But isn't stuff like this the whole point of Blu-Ray? Also keep in mind that the game is also coming out for 360 so it has to be able to fit on a DVD. It's these kinds of extras that show that even multiplatform games are going to take advantage of Blu-Ray.
The game doesn't take any advantage of the extra space given by bluray. The game fits on a DVD, as you just said. Bluray just allows Midway to add in the movie the game is a sequel to. It does nothing for the game.
