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Old 06-18-2007, 02:57 AM   #1
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Microsoft paid $50m for 2 exclusive GTA4 episodes

An interesting story over at texyt details just how persuasive Microsoft could be. No, no horse heads in Sam Houser's bed, instead:

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Microsoft is paying an unprecedented $50 million for exclusive rights to publish two episodes of the forthcoming game, Grand Theft Auto IV, on its Xbox 360 games console, according to statements from a senior executive at GTA IV publisher, Take-Two Interactive.

Take-Two has already recorded the payments in financial filings as deferred revenue, explained Lainie Goldstein, Take-Two's newly appointed CFO, in a conference call with analysts.
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The unprecedented scale of the $50m deal is indicated by the fact that it exceeds Take-Two's average quarterly revenue of $43 million received from all its Xbox 360 titles combined.
So the cost to Microsoft was $50m. How much will the cost to the consumer be and, just as importantly, out of Microsoft, Rockstar and the consumer, who benefits the most from this transaction?
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Old 06-18-2007, 05:59 AM   #2
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The wording is a bit unclear ... is that "episodes" as in "iterations of GTAIV," meaning GTAIV and GTAIV Vice City (or its inevitable equivalent) are only going to be on the 360? Or does it mean only two episodes (as in, downloadable content episodes) will be 360 exclusive?

Well, dumbass, read the article! It appears that fifty million bones for two downloadable episodes. Which means you know MS is going to charge out the ass for these once they hit Live. And it also means MS hugely overpaid for such a small feather in its cap.
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:01 AM   #3
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Well, the consumer gets more content than would have, presumably, otherwise been available. That is, if MS is funding this content being made rather than just insuring it's exclusive to Live. While I'd like to keep wishing this stuff would be free, downloadable content or 'chapter' is just the new way to say 'expansion pack'.
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:03 AM   #4
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It's good to see that Bill Gates still spend money on charity....
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:03 AM   #5
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That's kinda nuts. I mean, is it really worth that much? Shit, the game isn't even exclusive, just 2 "episodes" that people are going to have to pay extra for anyway.
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:04 AM   #6
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If GTA sells 3 million and each episode would be $10 they will have the money back (and maybe 500K extra 360s due to having the best version of GTA?)

I guess it all depends on how big these episodes are and how good GTA will be. If they are Shivering Isles kind of stuff everybody will be happy.

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Not sure about that... it looks like this Take-Two report is just about expected revenue from these episodes not money paid now.

The big gap between releases points to pretty big episodes...
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:13 AM   #7
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sounds interesting. oh well i love me some gta and its very likley ill be buying these episodes the day they come out.
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:26 AM   #8
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Wow. It shows how important the GTA franchise really is.
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:33 AM   #9
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People are looking at this wrong. Now Microsoft can't use the world exclusive on the GTA Box. It's a marketing strategy.

In a sense they can trick consumers into thinking that GTA IV is Exclusive in to the XBox 360. Simply tag on the end of a commercial - "Exclusive GTA IV Episodes Available on the XBox 360" and there ya go. People don't even have to buy the episodes for Microsoft to get a return on the investment.
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:35 AM   #10
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It's good to see that Bill Gates still spend money on charity....
Oh please. Don't start. You know good and while how much money that man gives out to humanitarian causes, and the what his foundation has done on that front. If you don't, educate yourself.

Let's face it, $50 million ain't what it used to be in the days of Google buying a company for 3.1 BILLION. The old "shocking" amounts have changed, just look at the Hollywood movie budgets and salaries.
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:37 AM   #11
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This is the kind of stunt that gets Microsoft into trouble for anti-competitive practices. They are using overwhealming finiancial might to influence an important market and I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't questioned at some point.
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:41 AM   #12
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whats' funny about this is how low the completion rate for Grand Theft Auto games is.

That is to say, people don't WANT more missions. They don't finish the ones they have.

The want new playable chracters, weapons and environments, better graphics and interactivity. That's why they buy new GTA games.

I can't expect to see anyone getting excited about expansion pack material.
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:46 AM   #13
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This is the kind of stunt that gets Microsoft into trouble for anti-competitive practices. They are using overwhealming finiancial might to influence an important market and I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't questioned at some point.
The last time I checked, Sony was a multi-billon-dollar company too. They had a chance to pony up. Capitalism at its best.
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:47 AM   #14
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This is the kind of stunt that gets Microsoft into trouble for anti-competitive practices. They are using overwhealming finiancial might to influence an important market and I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't questioned at some point.
What? Questioned by whom? This isn't some kind of unfair business practice. Sony is free to match or beat the MS offer. It's not like Sony doesn't have the financial clout to make it happen. In fact, I'm sure behind closed doors there was some negotiations about it between Take Two and Sony. They passed, so now we will see who is the wiser.
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:49 AM   #15
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This is the kind of stunt that gets Microsoft into trouble for anti-competitive practices. They are using overwhealming finiancial might to influence an important market and I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't questioned at some point.
Yeah. I'm sure the handful of times that companies were told to suggest that something was PS3 exclusive for a while, even if it never was, was just them asking REEEEAAAAL nice.

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Old 06-18-2007, 07:02 AM   #16
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This is the kind of stunt that gets Microsoft into trouble for anti-competitive practices. They are using overwhealming finiancial might to influence an important market and I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't questioned at some point.
Yeah, kinda like EA Sports with the NFL license.

Don't think for a second that Sony wasn't offered this chance - they just didn't take it.
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Old 06-18-2007, 07:03 AM   #17
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The last time I checked, Sony was a multi-billon-dollar company too. They had a chance to pony up. Capitalism at its best.
And who's to say that Sony didn't pay for GTA:VC and GTA:SA's 1-year exclusive run for the PS2? They might have but we never heard a number like $50 million about those~ (At least not that I recall...)
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And who's to say that Sony didn't pay for GTA:VC and GTA:SA's 1-year exclusive run for the PS2? They might have but we never heard a number like $50 million about those~ (At least not that I recall...)
Exactly. It is what it is.
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Old 06-18-2007, 07:10 AM   #19
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This sounds like a move the Yankee's would do if they were just trying to outbid the Red Sox.
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Old 06-18-2007, 07:12 AM   #20
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Yeah. Not condoning practices like this. But Sony hasn't got a real clean slate in Marketing either, and neither has Nintendo. This is just business. We will see how it works out, but I find the move quite smart.
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