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Old 02-21-2012, 05:49 AM   #21
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Indeed. Hands-down the best value for the price!
Mass Effect 2's Lair of the Shadow Broker... Just saying, it changed the freaking game.
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Old 02-21-2012, 06:02 AM   #22
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Mass Effect 2's Lair of the Shadow Broker... Just saying, it changed the freaking game.
This. The best DLC I've played. Undead Nightmare and the Liberty City episodes were very good too, none of which were withheld from the initial retail release (to be sold back piecemeal).
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DLC is going to land a lot of studios in hot water once the Starbucks law suit with Kraft is over and sets a president.
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Old 02-21-2012, 06:05 AM   #24
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DLC is going to land a lot of studios in hot water once the Starbucks law suit with Kraft is over and sets a president.
Please enlighten me on this dreadful day of snow and no vita yet.
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Old 02-21-2012, 06:13 AM   #25
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Please enlighten me on this dreadful day of snow and no vita yet.
Starbucks is being sued for moving their brand exclusively from one product to another without the coffee maker manufacturer, or starbucks warning the public with due process. That means the old products that still said they exclusively feature starbucks coffee were still being sold on retail shelves despite there being no refills for the product available.

How this will effect games? It's pretty easy to see, provided the people win and Starbucks/Kraft Foods looses.

No more exclusive swapping and $DLC bullshit from publishers without transparency which will open so many eyes to the shell game they play with your time and money, people simply will no longer pay for it or sue the publishers for removing content to products customers purchased in good faith.
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Old 02-21-2012, 06:17 AM   #26
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I am actually surprised that people have started a class action lawsuit on disc locked DLC yet. That is what I am amazed about.
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I am actually surprised that people have started a class action lawsuit on disc locked DLC yet. That is what I am amazed about.
The video game industry is still pretty lawless which is just the way they like it.
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Old 02-21-2012, 06:26 AM   #28
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The video game industry is still pretty lawless which is just the way they like it.
For now, its really a matter of time. For a multi billion dollar industry, there will be regulations put into place. Eventually a developer will take an action way too far and it will back fire and change the industry. I put my money on the likes of Activision because I believe that as much as EA likes to dick us, they know when to pull back a little.
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Old 02-21-2012, 06:44 AM   #29
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For now, its really a matter of time. For a multi billion dollar industry, there will be regulations put into place. Eventually a developer will take an action way too far and it will back fire and change the industry. I put my money on the likes of Activision because I believe that as much as EA likes to dick us, they know when to pull back a little.
The only reason EA pulls back is because they run out of money. Activision doesn't seem to have that problem.
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I welcome our money whoring overlords
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:33 AM   #31
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I just wait for the full version a year later.

But tbh, there's been a f2p shooter game that's been occupying all my time lately.
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:48 AM   #32
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DLC is the main reason I don't buy games at release date. I just wait for the GOTY edition or a discounted complete pack.
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While I understand the sentiment of the writer, I feel he is completely wrong with the saying "Horse Armor" was the start. The horse armor was purely decorative (and added more life). It changed nothing to the game .

The logical leap from horse armor to paid map packs is a huge logical leap of dumb-ass.

I agree the nature of add-on's and DLC's have changed, but it didn't start with horse armor.
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I don't really think it matter what gamers like us think, nor do the companies care either. they've already got a young generation of gamers coming up that think this is the norm. how its always been, and will always be.

we're obsolete, they're not marketing to us.
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While I understand the sentiment of the writer, I feel he is completely wrong with the saying "Horse Armor" was the start.
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I would like to second the statement made by Drakkarim, namely, that the entire concept of DLC has already been successfully normalized in the gaming population.

I would also, however, take this statement even further. This is more evidence that people do not behave as purely rationally self-interested and disinterested consumers. They do not, for the most part, assess things with an historical perspective or with any particular concern for long-term benefit. The success of DLC is proof of this. Why is it that most people, if asked individually, would object to paying for content which they know is already contained in the initial product, yet, when behaving as mass market consumers, purchase this same content in droves?

Part of the reason is that the normalization mentioned above begins with the business proposing DLC in the first place. When a large company does this, much of the pressure upon the consumer has already been created, making refusal to partake in such a system seem more and more like a ridiculous and overly zealous position to take. This is a social phenomenon, and a simplistic supply and demand market analysis will miss this completely.

The only thing that is certain is that it will get worse.
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I have bought so few DLCs though I don't have a lot to go on. I enjoyed, Zedds Zombie Island, General Knox's Secret Armory and even Moxxi's Underdome, although this is nearly impossible to do without a modded shield in your party. I did buy Operation Anchorage (for FO3) and thought it was not good. Battlefield Vietnam was another good purchase for BFBC2, I got my moneys worth out of that and would actually like to see the maps made for BF3. I got Back to Karkand for free, with the Limited Edition. The Dragon Age expansion, I bought on sale at retail and that was worth what i paid for it, I even bought one DLC for DA and it was all right, wish it had been cheaper though. So overall I have had mostly positive experiences with DLC but I have been selective with my purchases and have enjoyed the majority of them.

That might be the key, just buy DLC after doing some research and being relativity sure you are going to enjoy them. Also buy them at discount when you can. Certainly some DLC can add to your enjoyment of games you like.
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There was probably some God-awful DLC before horse armor, but I agree. I think it was because LIVE was finally becoming a reality in gaming and horse armor was on a much grander scale.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:20 AM   #39
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locked content is a type of DLC that i abhor.
DLC that, two years ago, we would have called an "expansion pack" is something that i'll continue to pay for.
DLC that is purely cosmentic... that's just silly.
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The sole reason why $DLC is a success is because when people spend other people's money, they don't give a fuck what they are buying as long as it makes them happy that instant.
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