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Old 06-23-2012, 08:29 PM   #41
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Old 06-23-2012, 08:35 PM   #42
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Old 06-23-2012, 08:47 PM   #43
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Apparantly the item did sell, but some kind of money cap imposed by blizzard was the culprit. Take with a few shakes of salt of course.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/top...099880?page=26

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Old 06-23-2012, 09:23 PM   #44
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This is EvAv man, the Mos Esiley of gaming sites. Cut the guy some slack BJ, as he has to put up with us bashing games he or his friends may have worked on, or worse, depend on their lively hoods for. As long as he's not singling out posters I don't mind him calling gamers a bunch of assholes. If he's got no other place to vent, what good are our opinions when we turn around the praise his work? It's a give and take world my friend. Respect the lumps with the laughs.
The man is due his opinion, no doubt. I just don't understand how he could call this exaggerated.

Mr. Lake, I apologize if I offended, but I stand by my post. Lately you seem to hate on gamers a little too much.
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Old 06-23-2012, 09:32 PM   #45
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Old 06-23-2012, 10:05 PM   #46
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Lol. Blizzard at what point did you ever think this was a great idea? Seriously whomever thought of the ah should be shot. That single person is fucking the very foundation you have been building. With all the shit d3 has headlined im out of fucking popcorn. Just fucking sad
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Old 06-23-2012, 10:09 PM   #47
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Apparantly the item did sell, but some kind of money cap imposed by blizzard was the culprit. Take with a few shakes of salt of course.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/top...099880?page=26

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Sounds like a possible bug. The cap argument doesn't make sense. I hope Blizzard has their legal shit together because it does seem like only a matter of time before they get sued.
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Old 06-23-2012, 11:20 PM   #48
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That was last weeks news. You need to visit more often to keep up.
Nice deflection but you should address his concern, i.e. your news staff and/ or submittal process sucks.
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Mr. Lake. As a blue name you're not allowed to have strong personal opinions on EvAv, it's always assumed you have some corporate agenda or are fronting for your company. Let this be a warning to all those that might be tempted to identify themselves as an industry professional on this board.
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Old 06-23-2012, 11:40 PM   #50
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Nice deflection but you should address his concern, i.e. your news staff and/ or submittal process sucks.
This article is 3 pages long with 50+ comments. I would say that our news submission process is working just fine.

I read the article and the comments -- you read the article and the comments. It killed 3 minutes of your day and probably just as many brain cells.

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Old 06-23-2012, 11:53 PM   #51
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Old 06-24-2012, 02:46 AM   #52
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Got to kind of admire Blizz in some sick way... they have made a game where people essentially work for them.

I've got no doubt Blizz will make money as people really are that stupid.. Avatar clothing exists so really stupid people exist hence the RMAH will do well. Seriously if your buying
virtual clothing to play virtual dress up dolly you've got too much money.. give it to charity.

I found the game ok for a few levels but good production values couldn't disguise the
tedium of the gameplay nor do random levels = replayability IMO the game just
plays in linked "cells" with no real flow... random levels in RPG's should have died a decade ago IMO.
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Old 06-24-2012, 06:48 AM   #53
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Lol. Blizzard at what point did you ever think this was a great idea? Seriously whomever thought of the ah should be shot. That single person is fucking the very foundation you have been building. With all the shit d3 has headlined im out of fucking popcorn. Just fucking sad
Ultimately, the idea of including an auction house was a very good one; D2 items were being sold left and right...often through rather unscrupulous sites. Between eBay and countless other independent auction/selling sites, thousands upon thousands of D2 items were being sold for real money. This isn't heresay or conjecture; it's fact. It happened and was an aspect of the game, whether Blizzard liked it or not.

Blizzard simply decided to capitalize on something that had happened already and would likely happen again. A huge part of their playerbase clearly wanted the option to buy items because they were already doing it. The fact that Blizzard opted to offer a clean, safe method of doing so shows that they've paid attention over the years and realized that despite all of the barking they do in their EULAs...people will do what they want. In the case of the RMAH, they're allowing players to do what they had always done and it let's them make a little extra scratch from a game they effectively gave away to a number of users.

You also don't have to touch the RMAH with a ten-foot pole if you so choose; the gold auction house has the exact same items of the exact same quality and it won't cost you a dime. Not a real one, at any rate.
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The man is due his opinion, no doubt. I just don't understand how he could call this exaggerated.

Mr. Lake, I apologize if I offended, but I stand by my post. Lately you seem to hate on gamers a little too much.
I forgot to thank you for understanding, so thank you!
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Old 06-24-2012, 08:23 AM   #55
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Mr. Lake. As a blue name you're not allowed to have strong personal opinions on EvAv, it's always assumed you have some corporate agenda or are fronting for your company. Let this be a warning to all those that might be tempted to identify themselves as an industry professional on this board.
If April first hadn't already passed, I'd ask Evil to make my name blue for a week just to watch everyone shit their pants.
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You also don't have to touch the RMAH with a ten-foot pole if you so choose; the gold auction house has the exact same items of the exact same quality and it won't cost you a dime. Not a real one, at any rate.
Yeah I agree with Chimpbot. There was a demand and being a business Bliz has moved to supply. No one is forced to use the real money auction house either.

Now obviously they have had their problems launching this real money system, from delays, to what appears to be a lack of clarity on the rules and of course I'm sure bugs and other missteps. The thing is... a lot of people are still using this real money AH despite all of this and I do believe that Blizz will iron out many of the current problems.

Again, no one is forced to use the rl money AH. There are tons of sites that will sell you items, gold, etc in other MMOs that have zero connection to the actual dev. I've read apparently there are still a lot of bots running around the game, which is an obvious problem. However with that said to the people spending real money for this game items.. it should drive down the prices. Now why people feel the need to spend $100 for an item in Diablo 3 I dunno...Did they ever raise level caps in the previous games? That would be like buying an item in WoW for $100 then it becomes useless when they up the cap to 70 (I know they were soul bound and all of that).
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That's a good point about them creating an AH because real-money sales were already being done.

But, what I find particularly cynical about D3 is that they actually designed the game to essentially force you to use the AH, to drive traffic to it. They're like, hey, let's simply ramp up difficulty, make drops so rare that people have to buy stuff to advance.

It's basically a similar strategy to what some F2P games do, make your ability to advance without giving them money vanishingly small.
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That's a good point about them creating an AH because real-money sales were already being done.

But, what I find particularly cynical about D3 is that they actually designed the game to essentially force you to use the AH, to drive traffic to it. They're like, hey, let's simply ramp up difficulty, make drops so rare that people have to buy stuff to advance.

It's basically a similar strategy to what some F2P games do, make your ability to advance without giving them money vanishingly small.
This isn't the first time I've seen this argument...and frankly, it just doesn't hold much weight.
The drop rates are really no worse than those from D2; after years of playing that game, do you know how I acquired most of my gear for my mains?

Trading.

The drops my friends and I saw were never all that extraordinary for the classes we played; we were forced to enter the painful world of in-game trading in order to actually gear up.

Back then, I felt forced into trading in order to progress. How is that any different from utilizing an auction house?
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Does the fact that Blizz lowered difficulty recently mitigate your response tho?
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