The number one age for a murderer to be. 17. Kids are little badasses at this age since they still think everything is a movie and are dumber than shit. Stop bringing up the wittle 17 year old wittle sweetwii hoo he so cute.
Er... That's EXACTLY what happened. Where have you been? Trayvon was walking home and talking on the phone with his girlfriend. Zimmerman saw that as an "asshole punk" "on drugs" who had robbed someone and was "getting away".
Yeah that's not how it played out at all.
It's as if you and Cy have either not read the transcript or just are so biased you can't fathom that a 17 year old is quite capable often times and again, according to the transcript, was apparently up to the challenge of initially staring down while approaching Zimmerman.
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Trayvon was walking home and talking on the phone with his girlfriend.
Yeah I'm sure he was just strolling back to his father's... that's why after he made it out of sight of Zimmerman he ended up in a point blank confrontation? hmmm that does not make sense.
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It's as if you and Cy have either not read the transcript or just are so biased you can't fathom that a 17 year old is quite capable often times and again, according to the transcript, was apparently up to the challenge of initially staring down while approaching Zimmerman.
No, I understand that martin was no angel, but that does not mean that he deserved to be killed. BTW, zim was far from an angel himself, just look at his criminal and violent past. The problem with zim defenders, is that they believe everything he says. I'd rather get the "facts" from multiple sources before making a decision. He could be completely innocent of this, but it is smarter to get the whole story instead of one person's side. If the facts show zim is innocent, I would have no problem with that. I think that is the fair and balanced way to look at this. Don't you?
You said the operative word: IF... The evidence and trial will hopefully determine this since most ppl will say anything to protect themselves...I know I would if I were in his shoes.
BTW news is reporting that zim's attorney wants the info on the case to be sealed.. That benefits the defense. Why not just redact the names and personal info on the case instead? Hmm, that is odd. I think zim should be offered bond as he is no flight risk since he did turn himself in. But he may be safer in jail due to the media circus regarding this case.
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If he caused Zim to reasonably fear for his life, then his death was justified.
No, I understand that martin was no angel, but that does not mean that he deserved to be killed. BTW, zim was far from an angel himself, just look at his criminal and violent past.
Fair enough, BTW Martin apparently had a past that dealt with burglary and being on drugs. If Martin ran away from Zimmerman and then somehow ended up in an armed confrontation it would seem most likely that Martin went after him.
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The problem with zim defenders, is that they believe everything he says.
Incorrect. Speaking for myself I'd side with the initial police decision based upon the evidence rather than mob rule.
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I'd rather get the "facts" from multiple sources before making a decision. He could be completely innocent of this, but it is smarter to get the whole story instead of one person's side.
Of course and isn't that what the cops have done talking with the witness and Zimmerman...the people that were actually there? You've gone to even cite Martin's mom in your past posts in support of charging Zimmerman. Wonder what side she'd be on?
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If the facts show zim is innocent, I would have no problem with that. I think that is the fair and balanced way to look at this. Don't you?
Nice try. You've been trying to paint Zimmerman as guilty from the start.
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According to the video I have seen of the trial when they initially took Zimmerman in they questioned him the evening of the shooting, into the following morning and into that evening as well apparently. So it sounds like they didn't simply pull him in and release him.
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Fair enough, BTW Martin apparently had a past that dealt with burglary and being on drugs. If Martin ran away from Zimmerman and then somehow ended up in an armed confrontation it would seem most likely that Martin went after him.
You are making assumptions again. Why not wait for the facts to be established? Besides so what if martin ran away from zim as he did not know who he was. Martin also had a right to defend himself if zim confrontedhim.
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Incorrect. Speaking for myself I'd side with the initial police decision based upon the evidence rather than mob rule.
And that was based on what zim told them...
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Of course and isn't that what the cops have done talking with the witness and Zimmerman...the people that were actually there?
Another witness told a different story. But you seem to just go by what the pro-zim media tell you. I have listened to both sides and think its best to wait until more facts are given
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You've gone to even cite Martin's mom in your past posts in support of charging Zimmerman.
I mentioned an article that his mother claimed that was his voice that cried "help". I am confused, did the article not say that?!?
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Wonder what side she'd be on?
Same logic applies to zim's bro and father who are trying to paint zim as the mother theresa despite his criminal and violent past...right?
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Nice try. You've been trying to paint Zimmerman as guilty from the start.
No, I am fair and balanced. I am balancing out the overly pro-zim crowd here. Besides more investigation is needed which hopefully the trial provides..
Martin was not arrested with anything. Since when are those "attempts" a crime or even violent? Again, you are reaching big time here
BTW zim flip flopped yesterday during his "apology". On the stand he claimed he did not know martin's age saying he thought he was a little younger than zim who is 28 years old. However on the 911 recording, he clearly stated martin was a teenager. Just sayin..
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I guess we can toss out Martin's criminal past and of course his apparent attempts to appear as a gang banger so lets throw in violence too.
The problem with zim defenders, is that they believe everything he says. I'd rather get the "facts" from multiple sources before making a decision. He could be completely innocent of this, but it is smarter to get the whole story instead of one person's side. If the facts show zim is innocent, I would have no problem with that. I think that is the fair and balanced way to look at this. Don't you? 
Again, you are reaching big time here 
