Jesus, the average gamer plays 128 minutes per day? I'm lucky if I get 20 minutes two or three times per week. Of course, this relates to the backlog problem I mentioned in another thread. I guess that in general, I agree. If people are spending two hours on recreation per day, especially early in their education and careers, yes, I can see that affecting income in a huge way. But is this different than saying university students who spent spare time working internships or doing extra studying ended up with better careers than those who spent every waking minute goofing off. No real shocker. I doubt that people who game recreationally do worse than those who knit or golf. I think the key thing is hours worked versus hours slacking, regardless of the particular hobby. I'm guessing, but I would also like to see the data.
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People who take time to enjoy life earn less money than people who obsess over maximizing their income at the expense of their family, friends, and personal joy.
Uh oh. I better stop playing these games! I could be more productive.
Thats the question. Ive chosen to stay out of the rat race myself. Sure i could work 50+ hrs a week and have a 3 year old car instead of a 7 year old car, a 2500sq ft home as opposed to a 1200sq ft home. IMO and no disrespect for those that do it, its just not worth it to me.
I have one life and im not going to spend it away form my loved ones making money for negligible improvements. Doesn't mean im not always improving myself or want to play games all day but for myself my balance of work vs (play) is a bit out of the norm.
In fact its weird to me to watch all the hustle and bustle of downtown. Its like....whats the point again? Simmer down.
Also..not sure why people bother arguing with teecakes... I sincerely believe now that he is a bot built by Sony and unleashed on small community sites.
Jesus, the average gamer plays 128 minutes per day? I'm lucky if I get 20 minutes two or three times per week.
When you truly love gaming, you make time to play. I work around 40-50 hours per week and then on the evenings I juggle my time between household chores, dinner for the six of us and gymnastics/basketball/sports three times a week as well. Then, once the kids and the wifey are sleeping, I game from around 11:00pm to around 12:30-1:00pm in the morning.
Like I said, if you truly love it you make time, as with anything.
BlackZ said it best when he asked"What's the point" of it all?
I guess any individual committed to a hobby wouldn't treat their job as one and therefore wouldn't focus as hard on getting ahead. I say his findings make a good abstract, they aren't enough to make the statements he is.
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-""So it's not just to say that people on average who play more video games earn less income on average, it's actually to suggest that playing video games was directly affecting men and their incomes."
I think it's a wrong assumption.
My theory (of cause there are exceptions) is that if you have time you play games (2h+/day), you might have a job that lets you do it and jobs like this might not be as highly paid as a job that takes 10-12h a day. I have had jobs that you work 7-8h then you're free. But the more work you get, the more you work (and your salary also get higher).
Of cause there are exceptions When a new game come out today that I really want to play (such as Borderland) I make time to play it, thou I don't' have time to play it 2-4 times through that I might have done with it if was like 4 years ago.
Video games are relatively new, and the perspective & likelihood of someone in their 50's (who might have been 20 when mainstream video games arrived on the scene) compared with someone who's in their 20's (who is younger than the NES system)....is quite different. 50 year olds (statistically) make a lot more money and are far more likely to either avoid videogaming because of their generations view of them or lie about how much they actually play.
Even if it takes that into account, determining causation with a poll of hobbies, like this, is a stretch. e.g....are people unemployed because they play games or do they play games cause they are unemployed? Blaming a vice is the only way to get a headline here.
Good point Salacious. That would have a huge influence on the results. If the majority of gamers are in there 20s and 30s, obviously few have peaked in either their income or gross worth.
In order to have a more accurate study you'd have to compare people in similar demographics.
Videogaming is a far better hobby than, say, drinking, doing drugs or pursuing endless sexual conquest. In that sense, society has progressed at least :P
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i supposed there's some truth to it. i mean if i wasn't having fun playing games, i'd have plenty of time to come up with pyramid schemes to frack people out of their money. or set up some email spam operation and sell viagra to grandmas.
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Holy bad statistical analysis Batman. He basically flat out says that correlation equals causation just because... um... well for no good reason really. Just because is reason enough I guess. There is no evidence whatsoever for causation.
Even then, as pointed out earlier you could draw the same parallel to any activity that doesn't increase your income. It's hardly a news flash that spending less time working and more time doing other things has a negative effect on hourly income.
I'm not sure why a low quality statistical study by a twenty one year old kid is newsworthy.
People who take time to enjoy life earn less money than people who obsess over maximizing their income at the expense of their family, friends, and personal joy.
Uh oh. I better stop playing these games! I could be more productive.
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This is a very skewed perspective. You could say the same as people who go to the gym or run (for marathon training, etc) 2+ hours per day on average.
I play games for about 6-8 hours a week total. Generally two nights a week and then a little more on weekends. Could I use that time to be more "productive" and try to advance my career? Probably.
Do I want to sacrifice the things I enjoy like gaming and playing music just to earn more money to go sit in a bank somewhere while I make myself a miserable workaholic? Pass.
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This research irritates me because there is absolutely no science behind it. "People make less money when they don't spend absolutely 100% of their time trying to make more money." No shit, Sherlock. I could make more money, but I'd rather spend my time nursing my addiction to alcohol!
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When you truly love gaming, you make time to play. I work around 40-50 hours per week and then on the evenings I juggle my time between household chores, dinner for the six of us and gymnastics/basketball/sports three times a week as well. Then, once the kids and the wifey are sleeping, I game from around 11:00pm to around 12:30-1:00pm in the morning.
Like I said, if you truly love it you make time, as with anything.
BlackZ said it best when he asked"What's the point" of it all?
In my late twenties and early thirties there were several games that I would routinely skip sleep for. Mostly Total Annihilation, and later WoW during its first year. But I'm past 40 now and the late nights definitely take more of a toll than they used to. It affects my energy, health, performance at work, patience as a parent, etc. So, yes, we could argue that my problem is lack of gaming love, and that is largely true. Most of this culture revolves around short term hype for OVARATED 4. I'm not a shooter or sports fan and I don't play multiplayer anything. But a lot of it also has to do with having responsibilities that take much more time and investment and a dwindling reserve of time and energy to spread around.
On the other hand, you also have a busy schedule and it is awesome that you have time for all of that, kids, wife, work, sleep, and gaming. If I were just a bit younger I could still find that late night time. Sometimes I still do, but only once every two weeks or so.
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When a new game come out today that I really want to play (such as Borderland) I make time to play it, thou I don't' have time to play it 2-4 times through that I might have done with it if was like 4 years ago.
