CNET is reporting the Recording Industry Association of America has won its copyright case against Usenet.com.
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In a brief note posted Tuesday to RIAA.com, the trade group for the music industry said: "We're pleased that the court recognized not just that Usenet.com directly infringed the record companies' copyrights but also took action against the defendants for their egregious litigation misconduct."
The RIAA filed suit against Usenet.com, a worldwide communication system, in October 2007. Usenet.com was accused of encouraging customers to pay up to $19 a month by enticing them with copyrighted music.
Update: CNET has news of another copyright lawsuit. This time Music Copyright Solutions is going after Microsoft, Yahoo and RealNetworks.
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The suit appears to have been initiated by Music Copyright Solutions (MCS), which claims to administer copyrights for more than 45,000 compositions. MCS is named as the lead plaintiff, along with a number of songwriters including Mark Farner of Grand Funk Railroad fame. These folks allege that Microsoft, Yahoo, and RealNetworks improperly licensed the rights to more than 200 compositions that they offered as on-demand streams or limited downloads via the Zune Marketplace, Yahoo Music, and Rhapsody.
Surely these companies paid somebody for the rights to offer these songs. But there's a catch, which TechDirt pointed out earlier Tuesday: these companies may have licensed the rights to the recordings, but that doesn't mean they licensed the rights to the compositions (also known as publishing rights).
Last edited by Emabulator; 07-01-2009 at 12:19 AM..
Hope no-one freaks out thinking this will open the floodgates on Usenet, the website in question was simply advertising free music with it's subscriptions which is why it lost it's case, this had nothing to do with the actual Usenet'ing itself.
Hey Johan is back and starting political arguments. Excellent.
This isn't about any single politician, it is about the entire political culture in the US. But that is what you do, pluck anecdotes to demonize specific politicians you dislike instead of discussing the broader non-partisan problems.
And you'd certainly never suggest potential solutions to the problems, because solving problems doesn't stir up controversy. Which is all you're really interested in. Real-world problems are nothing for you but a canvas to pontificate on.
Hey Johan is back and starting political arguments. Excellent.
I'm not starting an argument. I'm merely pointing out a politician's positions on this issue and regarding this industry group.
Whether you do or do not like it, the facts are as they are. Obama has surrounded himself with RIAA insiders and supports their maneuvers to win verdicts of up to $150,000 per pirated song. That's not an argument; it's reality.
Still, Obama has yet to fill the all-important role of copyright czar, a new cabinet-level position approved by Congress late last year. Other unfilled vacancies dealing with intellectual property rest in the Patent and Trademark Office, the United States Trade Representative and the State Department.
Congress needs to stop this Czar bullshit! If we didn't elect them, they're not official! Besides there aren't any checks against them.
Fucking faggots in Washington are fucking this whole thing up!
I'm not starting an argument. I'm merely pointing out a politician's positions on this issue and regarding this industry group.
Whether you do or do not like it, the facts are as they are. Obama has surrounded himself with RIAA insiders and supports their maneuvers to win verdicts of up to $150,000 per pirated song. That's not an argument; it's reality.
I agree, but the private sector infiltration of government started long before Obama was on the scene.
I think when you start making money off of copyright infringement.. you are practically instantly found guilty.. where as if you're just giving it away for free, it will take longer for you to "go down"
Hey Johan is back and starting political arguments. Excellent.
This isn't about any single politician, it is about the entire political culture in the US. But that is what you do, pluck anecdotes to demonize specific politicians you dislike instead of discussing the broader non-partisan problems.
And you'd certainly never suggest potential solutions to the problems, because solving problems doesn't stir up controversy. Which is all you're really interested in. Real-world problems are nothing for you but a canvas to pontificate on.
Although I agree with your view in general this isn't just "a politician". It's the friggin president, and being the president everything you do, every stance they take and opinion they have, matters.
Seriously the only reason any usenet providers are providing such high bandwidth quota for their service is for people to download big binary files which let's be honest are mostly illegal. Otherwise if you do use usenet for what it's intended, discussion in text, then you would only need at most a few megabytes per month.
Whether you do or do not like it, the facts are as they are.
What the hell does my "liking" it have to do with anything? Did you even read my post?
I said you are being a intellectually vapid troll, and undermining the actual problem with media industry influence in Washington with your petty, childish tirade against Obama and other specific politicians you dislike.
The music and movie industry influence started long before Obama was in office, and while his positions clearly aren't commendable, your ignorant and cursory targeting of him is embarrassing. Ignoring over 100 years of Disney and pushing extensions of the Copyright Act, and countless other laws and politicians who are to blame.
I'm certainly not defending Obama, I am attacking your making a partisan and over-simplified assessment of a complex topic. Your implication is that somehow if Obama were not president there would be no problem, which is simply stupid. If that isn't your point, why are you attacking Obama specifically rather than the broader issues.
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Obama has surrounded himself with RIAA insiders and supports their maneuvers to win verdicts of up to $150,000 per pirated song.
First off, lawyers are paid to represent their clients best interests regardless of their personal opinion on the issue. I'm surprised you didn't know that. Claiming they represent the RIAA no matter their position is like claiming criminal defense lawyers support legalizing murder. It is idiotic. Stop being an idiot when you know better.
I look forward on your sidestepping my major points and instead responding to a deliberate misrepresentation of something I said.
What the hell does my "liking" it have to do with anything? Did you even read my post?
I said you are being a intellectually vapid troll, and undermining the actual problem with media industry influence in Washington with your petty, childish tirade against Obama and other specific politicians you dislike.
The music and movie industry influence started long before Obama was in office, and while his positions clearly aren't commendable, your ignorant and cursory targeting of him is embarrassing. Ignoring over 100 years of Disney and pushing extensions of the Copyright Act, and countless other laws and politicians who are to blame.
I'm certainly not defending Obama, I am attacking your making a partisan and over-simplified assessment of a complex topic. Your implication is that somehow if Obama were not president there would be no problem, which is simply stupid. If that isn't your point, why are you attacking Obama specifically rather than the broader issues.
First off, lawyers are paid to represent their clients best interests regardless of their personal opinion on the issue. I'm surprised you didn't know that. Claiming they represent the RIAA no matter their position is like claiming criminal defense lawyers support legalizing murder. It is idiotic. Stop being an idiot when you know better.
I look forward on your sidestepping my major points and instead responding to a deliberate misrepresentation of something I said.
I can never tell if your serious or not, HAHAHAHAHA.
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I look forward on your sidestepping my major points and instead responding to a deliberate misrepresentation of something I said.
You hit the nail on the head. But lately it's become almost a waste of time to even respond to Johan. Instead of making a mature response to a sound, logical argument such as yours, he'd rather downplay his untenable opinion with non-comments like:
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You had a point?
Which is typical troll behavior, I guess. He definitely should be glad he decided not to seriously continue our debate on piracy (the one I guess I won by default due to his forfeit), although it makes me smile that it bugged him so much that he sigged me in a weak attempt to rewrite history!
I know you're capable of a better showing, Jo! You gotta believe!
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