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Emabulator
10-17-2009, 11:08 AM
Mark Rein from Epic Games explains why they think Intel Core i7 for laptops is great for people who love games and discusses their relationship with Intel in a video posted on the Epic Games YouTube Channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/epicgamesinc).

[via BeyondUnreal (http://www.beyondunreal.com/view_story.php?id=12984)]

Click on the headline to watch the video.

Emabulator
10-17-2009, 11:08 AM
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Kamobo
10-17-2009, 11:19 AM
Amazing. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who has had the need for this. Thanks for sharing this.

Qoz
10-17-2009, 12:15 PM
What the hell? This is just a CPU?

An intel CPU for mobile computers? This changes so little for the industri, and this performance from Mark Rein is paid for somehow - either in cool cash or from extra-ordinary support from Intel to Epic.

Don't get me wrong - I really admmire Mark Rein and what Epic has done with their engine, but touting this CPU as some kind of paradigm shift in how we develop games is pretty silly.

F3nyx
10-17-2009, 01:05 PM
Wow, he's efficient. Simultaneously shilling for Intel and giving lip service to a platform Epic has all but abandoned.

brandonjclark
10-17-2009, 01:11 PM
What the hell? This is just a CPU?

An intel CPU for mobile computers? This changes so little for the industri, and this performance from Mark Rein is paid for somehow - either in cool cash or from extra-ordinary support from Intel to Epic.

Don't get me wrong - I really admmire Mark Rein and what Epic has done with their engine, but touting this CPU as some kind of paradigm shift in how we develop games is pretty silly.


Well, it's obviously a commercial, if you take the Intel branding at the end for face value. But, I also agree that this isn't something new.

It's like pretending that the i7 is introducing laptops or something@!

PopoWRX
10-17-2009, 01:15 PM
Wow, he's efficient. Simultaneously shilling for Intel and giving lip service to a platform Epic has all but abandoned.

Indeed. PC support has definitely dropped off after the rise of the consoles the last two generations. Now you get former PC stalwarts Epic being console lead devs now.

Still, whats so special about Core i7 mobile chips? Don't gaming laptops consume much more battery life then the "regular" ones? I don't see the point of having a gaming laptop if you are just going to have it plugged into an outlet, might as well have a desktop.

Anenome
10-17-2009, 01:50 PM
But we know how the story ends. In the end, the PC wins. The console is but a prelude to the true age of gaming yet to come, when there will be only one platform. That is yet many generations off, perhaps decades though.

Zander
10-17-2009, 04:45 PM
But we know how the story ends. In the end, the PC wins. The console is but a prelude to the true age of gaming yet to come, when there will be only one platform. That is yet many generations off, perhaps decades though.

I remember this.

From the 80s.

They will always exist side by side. One would suffer without the other to push it.

Meusli
10-17-2009, 05:31 PM
But we know how the story ends. In the end, the PC wins. The console is but a prelude to the true age of gaming yet to come, when there will be only one platform. That is yet many generations off, perhaps decades though.

You forgot the evil laugh at the end.

Meusli
10-17-2009, 05:32 PM
That was a joke by the way, forgot the smiley. :D

blackzc
10-17-2009, 05:36 PM
I don't see the point of having a gaming laptop if you are just going to have it plugged into an outlet, might as well have a desktop.

5 laptops for a lan party is easy 5 pcs not as easy. The average onboard video for laptops is just about there as far as being good enough for me.

Anenome
10-17-2009, 05:58 PM
I remember this.

From the 80s.

They will always exist side by side. One would suffer without the other to push it.
- It was true in the 80's too, just far off.

If you doubt me you're just not looking far enough into the future. I don't think rival platforms need exist, anyone can already make a PC.

Consoles exist for a reason. First of all, they're cheap compared to a computer. But, of course, if you've been following the PC pricing curve, you'll see that's not exactly true anymore. In fact, the Xbox was the first console that basically was a PC. Won't be long when a PC has more power than is needed to run a game, and consoles will lose their niche.

We could also talk about mobile/pc convergence. It will soon be possible to carry a PC in your pocket, which will have the functionality of a cellphone as well as a gameboy, and a console if you like. But, that's even more in the future.

gtejeda
10-17-2009, 09:32 PM
There are several things not accounted for in your plausible future Anenome, you are still talking about a PC; I'm all for convergence, but you have to factor in the whole echo-system; different operating systems within the same company and within different vendors; sure the PC is 90%+ but Mac is gaining traction, so if anything the future turns a least a bit grimmer for the PC, there are others coming too and they will also gain some gaming momentum (not even mentioning mobile here).

At the end of the day I agree with Zander that they will co-exist, It is cheaper and more cost-effective to build an AAA game for multiple platforms (using one of the multi-faceted very expensive gaming sdk's of course), and getting income from every gaming source.

I do hope third party development exclusives will disappear soon, as it'll make every better and competition will truly play out at the system's level (we will get a heck of a lot better deals), at the end of the day shouldn't us as customers decide by our own preference?

I happen to be lucky enough to have all current consoles and I love the have the option.

Let's see:
a great shooter... my pc... check
great basketball game on my 360... check
fantastic adventure game on my ps3... check
wha? guests bored? let's turn on the wii... check

sorry for the long reply, got carried away.

Anenome
10-17-2009, 11:08 PM
Mac is not going to gain traction, sorry. They'd have to open the platform before that happens, and it ain't gonna happen. Meanwhile, with MS stealing every good idea Mac has, and the fact, FACT that Windows is more secure than OSX by a rather large mile (I can support this easily before anyone spouts off their ignorance) the incentive to change to a Mac is virtually zero. It's a niche product way too expensive for the common man and has been positioned by Apple not as a mass market product at all, but as a status symbol with price to match. Status symbols by definition cannot become mass market. If everyone owned a Jag it wouldn't be a Jag anymore. But that's a side issue, because in the long run Linux has a better shot of becoming the defacto OS than OSX/Apple. But, probably MS will make Windows open source and free before Linux can do too much damage in order to save the company. But in the long run, open source will win. But why am I even discussing this.

Eventually graphics interfaces and chips, and all that will work themselves into a commodity standard. At that point, conversion is completely. This is the pattern continually repeated. Used to be every console company made their own custom designed hardware. Today we have a situation where all three companies have a PowerPC CPU.

I won't press the point too hard, we can agree to disagree :)

gtejeda
10-18-2009, 10:37 AM
Oh I agree that Mac won't be nowhere near market leader, my point was merely that it was gaining market share (just like the Iphone/Ipod touch is being considered more and more a gaming device) and that all these devices IMHO will inevitably be a part of the future, which I believe it to be simply better for us as consumers.