Forza 3 Ships with 30 Extra Tracks in 2 Packs

[Emabulator]

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VG247 is reporting (http://www.vg247.com/2009/10/10/forza-3-to-ship-with-30-extra-tracks-not-two/) that the retail version of Turn 10 Studios' Xbox 360 racing game, Forza Motorsport 3, includes a voucher card for a total of 30 extra tracks.

While Microsoft announced (http://www.vg247.com/2009/10/07/forza-getting-free-10-pack-car-dlc-at-launch/) this week that Forza 3 will have a ten-car DLC pack and two new tracks available on day one, the voucher card in the retail version we’ve just cracked open clarifies that 30 extra courses are to be given away along with the ten cars in two track packs.

The Sidewinder Proving Ground Track Pack contains 18 tracks from Forza 1 and 2, while the Benchmark High Speed Ring Track Pack contains 12 tracks from the “ultimate physics playground of open concrete,” according to the card. The courses are variations on two tracks.
You can find the list of cars from the DLC in this article (http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96969) by modeps.

[senorduck]

Turn 10, we love ya.

[Meusli]

Is this like the Gears offer, whereby the new version offers more than a second hand version?

[MasterEvilAce]

Is this like the Gears offer, whereby the new version offers more than a second hand version?

Wow, that's what it sounds like. Pretty shiet deal

[elvisizer]

yeah screw turn 10 for giving us something for free in exchange for buying the game new! :rolleyes:

I always buy new releases new. if you buy the used version (for a whopping savings of $5- wow!) NONE of that money goes to the developers or publishers. Support the developers- buy new releases new.

[Scramble]

yeah screw turn 10 for giving us something for free in exchange for buying the game new! :rolleyes:

I always buy new releases new. if you buy the used version (for a whopping savings of $5- wow!) NONE of that money goes to the developers or publishers. Support the developers- buy new releases new.

Sure thing Mum.

[MasterEvilAce]

yeah screw turn 10 for giving us something for free in exchange for buying the game new! :rolleyes:

I always buy new releases new. if you buy the used version (for a whopping savings of $5- wow!) NONE of that money goes to the developers or publishers. Support the developers- buy new releases new.

I understand that, but at the same time we shouldn't support this kind of behavior.. because it will become rampant at some point and get more extreme. If devs don't want to lose money to used game sells.. HINT: Lower the price a few months after the game has been out. There are a few games i'm wanting to buy, but I can't decide, really. They're all $60. I can't buy them all. If someone sells a used game version for half price, then it's a no brainer, right? Will if the game dropped $20.. sudden 40vs30 starts to even things out.

Imagine if car companies wouldn't let you transfer a warranty over to a new owner.

[MasterKwan]

I like it. Good for Turn 10. Honestly, you cheapskates make me sick. You want everything and you want it for free. You cry foul when the developer tries to actually make money from their work.

I always buy new too. It's the right thing to do.

[MasterEvilAce]

I like it. Good for Turn 10. Honestly, you cheapskates make me sick. You want everything and you want it for free. You cry foul when the developer tries to actually make money from their work.

I always buy new too. It's the right thing to do.

FWIW, I've never bought a used game. But I understand the economics behind it. There's an abundance of games out there, and every developer thinks their game is worth $60? Really? I don't see $60 worth of quality in a lot of games.

My point is, sometimes its the developers/publishers that are hurting their own sales.

[MasterEvilAce]

Oh.. Sorry, I should clarify. I have bought a used game. I bought a Kirby N64 game from gamestop a couple years ago. It was for my sister, and they stopped making N64 games.

[donkeydrop]

I like it. Good for Turn 10. Honestly, you cheapskates make me sick. You want everything and you want it for free. You cry foul when the developer tries to actually make money from their work.

I always buy new too. It's the right thing to do.

What I want is that when I buy a game the whole game is in the box not half a game. Only a fanboi think this is some kind of reward for buying the game new, it's the exact opposite. Buy the game new and you are punished by not being able to resell the whole game.

Sorry, but I won't be manipulated. Sale lost; I'll pick it up for $40 on eBay a month after release.

[MasterKwan]

Sorry, but I won't be manipulated. Sale lost; I'll pick it up for $40 on eBay a month after release.

Then you don't get the extra maps without buying them which is what Turn 10 wants anyway. So, you're playing right into their hands... I have no problem with them killing off the used market in some clever indirect way. It'll only impact the people who buy and sell used games and screw over Turn 10. The doctrine of first sale means you can do what you want with your used games. I like that law. It doesn't mean Turn 10 has to help you rob them of profit.

Turn 10 is adding value for people who actually give them money. I'm fine with that.

[Slacker]

What I want is that when I buy a game the whole game is in the box not half a game. Only a fanboi think this is some kind of reward for buying the game new, it's the exact opposite. Buy the game new and you are punished by not being able to resell the whole game.

They're giving out free DLC (unlike some people (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/dragonage/news.html?sid=6232117) who are charging for it) and you're complaining about it. Man I'd hate to be your relative around Christmas time.

"No, I don't want that present. I can't return it."

[TDiddy]

The only used games I have ever bought have been extremely old games for dirt cheap prices (like under $10) so I actually wouldn't mind if this took the next step: packaging these games with download codes to enable multiplayer online games. If you buy it used, they could charge $10-20 dollars. It will probably happen some day. And I love how this would be a problem with console games, yet the CD-keys PC games have been using for years are something we are just used to.

[Demo_Boy]

I actually wouldn't mind if this took the next step: packaging these games with download codes to enable multiplayer online games. If you buy it used, they could charge $10-20 dollars.


this will happen widely in 2010

[Gel214th]

That's doing it the right way. I wonder what took publishers so long to catch on to a common sense approach to this issue!

[Grumsh]

this will happen widely in 2010

GOOD!

I hope this does become the norm, that way companies can actually make a profit and not have to shut there doors because the used market put them out of business. Some wacky part of me even believes that if profits go up for companies maybe prices might go down.. I know Heresy right.. ?

[MasterEvilAce]

GOOD!

I hope this does become the norm, that way companies can actually make a profit and not have to shut there doors because the used market put them out of business. Some wacky part of me even believes that if profits go up for companies maybe prices might go down.. I know Heresy right.. ?

So you're telling me, when they start making more money...
from selling more copies....
meaning demand goes up...

you think the prices will go down?
I don't know any company that is so consumer based that they actually would slash their profits.

Summary: NOT buying overpriced games will make the prices go down.

[donkeydrop]

Then you don't get the extra maps without buying them which is what Turn 10 wants anyway.

No, I will play the game that's on the disk and then sell it. At least I wont pay an inflated price for what isn't on the disk, and I'll be able to sell it for 90% of what I paid.

[MasterKwan]

Summary: NOT buying overpriced games will make the prices go down.

Prices are set by the marketplace. I don't expect them to ever go down. If prices go too high, sales will suffer, if they're too low, there's not enough profit in making new games. I have no problem paying $60 for at least 10 hours of entertainment. If it was $75, I'd really have to think twice. Obviously, I'd prefer more time but, that's my lower
threshold. My comfortable price isn't yours. If enough people buy the $60 games, your boycott means nothing.

Books have priced me out of the market. I used to buy 3-4 books a week at $2-3 per. Now I don't any more. At $8 something a pop for a paperback, the entertainment doesn't justify the cost. The fact, I've stopped buying has had zero affect on the marketplace.

[bickle]

Then you don't get the extra maps without buying them which is what Turn 10 wants anyway. So, you're playing right into their hands...

Think about what you just said. Reread it if you have to. He's playing right into their hands by buying the game used? I highly doubt that their master plan is that this will drive people to buy games used as a form of protest.

[MasterKwan]

He's playing right into their hands by buying the game used?

It's not that hard to understand. If he wants to play online with his honest friends, he's going to have pony up for the DLC or he can't play the tracks they're playing on. Turn 10 is going to make more money using this technique, simply from peer pressure.

If he's a loner and doesn't play on Live, he's not really a factor anyway.

[rjcc]

If you buy used games just wait a year and cop the ultimate platinum goty edition that comes with all the dlc on disc.