WTF for?!

[Booda]

Ok, everyone that visits this forum knew this thread was coming but would someone please explain to me what Bam has accomplished while he has been in office that justifies him winning the Nobel Peace Prize.

It would seem that he has been awarded this simply because he is not George Bush.

[Whimbrel]

I agree that this seems vastly premature.

[modeps]

I have no idea... and I voted for him.

[Syl]

I don't understand this either. I like the guy and think he's doing a swell job attempting to get stuff done, but i don't think it's nobel prize worthy.

Maybe in 4 years if we reflect back!

[TeeCakes]

In the Nobel committee's own words, he won due to his efforts for international peace. If you don't think that's Nobel Prize-worthy, you clearly don't understand what the prize even stands for.

FYI, these are the others who won on 'effort'-- aka, not accomplishing anything tangible, but promoting an overarching, world-spanning notion of peace:

-2008: Martti Ahtisaari

-2007: Al Gore and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

-2005: Mohamed ElBaradei and the International Atomic Energy Agency

-2003: Shirin Ebadi

-2002: President Jimmy Carter

-1998: David Trimble and John Hume

-1995: Joseph Rotblat and the Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs

-1994: Yasser Arafat, Yitzhak Rabin, and Shimon Peres

Also, former Nobel winner Mohamed Elbaradei further clarifies why he thinks Obama "deserves" it:


There is nobody today in my view who is more deserving of that peace prize than Barack Obama. In less than a year he brought a radical change in the way we look at ourselves, in the way we look at our world. He is restoring the basic core values that every one of us should live by - dialogue, respect, democracy, due process, human rights, a security system that does not depend on nuclear weapons. His dedication to these values rekindles hope that, finally, we could have a world at peace with itself.

Don't listen to Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck, people. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8298802.stm)

Seriously, I'm really sick of AMERICANS hating on the fact that Obama won this award. What, is he supposed to refuse it!? I don't even know why I asked, it's exactly what a lot of right-wingers have been calling for all day like the pure jackasses that they are.

It's not like he had any power over the awarding process to begin with-- I swear some people just irrationally hate this man so much they actually can't bring themselves to admit when they're being retarded.

And yes-- trying to find fault with your President being awarded one of the most prestigious prizes in all of existence is RETARDED.

[KnightOrc]

George W Bush made the world laugh at the most visible idiot in politics, Barak Obama has a clue, don't you think the world is slightly safer just because of that? I do. Sure, politicians talk big and usually disappoint (big promises vs reality vs backstabbing fellow politicians) but at least Obama tries hard and apologises when he fails too. The man has what it takes. Will history paint him as one of the world's great leaders? No way to know, but so far I'd guess it will.

I'm from a small country some of you may of heard of, South Africa. When we became a free country we got a leader like Obama, Nelson Mandela, smart, forthwright and loved by anyone with a clue. Did he accomplish all that he wanted? No. Did he get a nobel peace prize? Hell yeah! And now South Africa has a George W Bush style president... corrupt, idiotic and easily led. I weep for South Africa.

[lost]

I think Obama was a little bit surprised too.

[Johan]

George W Bush made the world laugh at the most visible idiot in politics, Barak Obama has a clue

You are a fool. Let's look at the actual facts. Obama:

* Stepped-up predator bombings in Pakistan/Afghanistan, with increases in civilian deaths above the Bush era.

* Increased troop total in Afghanistan.

* Continuing rendition (sending detainees back to countries which allow torture and the like).

* Guantanamo still open.

* Even when Guantanamo closes (if...when...whatever), Obama currently uses Bagram airbase for indefinite extra-judicial detentions.

* Troop totals in Iraq have dropped merely a couple of thousand since Obama entered office.

* Hasn't repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."

* Hasn't achieved climate change legislation.

* Hasn't stopped Iran's nuclear program.

* Hasn't stopped North Korea's nuclear program.

* Hasn't brought the Israelis and Palestinians back to the peace process...can't even stop settlement construction by Israelis!

* I could go on. The list of what he hasn't done, and the bad things he continues to do in Bush's stead, are many and varied.

This award was given because the Nobel Committee is...

* prone to giving a "fuck Bush" award every few years, because their purpose is pushing liberal ideology and Bush made it clear he was conservative (excluding his ridiculous prescription drug benefit boondoggle and his TARP money giveaway).

* well aware that Obama is extremely interested in himself (Obama's push to get the Olympics mentioned himself and his own narrative dozens of times, because after all, he buys his own powers of persuasion, despite the paucity of actual effect he has had on policy or international relations) and Obama can therefore be manipulated.

* interested in interfering in American politics, especially in making it difficult for Obama to send the requested troops to Afghanistan by putting his international reputation on the line.

If you think Obama somehow "deserved" this award, you're not just drinking the Kool-Aid...you're a mindless, idiotic moron. He hasn't achieved a damn thing other than win several elections despite his continuing paucity of actual concrete achievements in life. His reputation is built upon his own personal narrative and his ability to offer tired out, old, worn ideas in a pretty and marketable package.

[Jamikazi]

Unless you were directly in contention of winning the Peace Prize, I can't see why this is at all bothersome.

I also did not vote for Obama

[Johan]

I can't see why this is at all bothersome.

It's not. It's actually incredibly funny to watch the world tout Obama as a man of peace when he has actually engaged in the very same list of hated policies that Bush engaged in, including stepping up practices that were especially despised, such as remote bombings by Predator drones, rendition, indefinite extra-judicial detention, and continued military 'boots on the ground' in Iraq (same number as when Bush left) and Afghanistan (tens of thousands MORE than under Bush). The only difference is the rhetorical packaging.

It's amazing how stupid people are. Offer them shit, and they push it away. Package that shit in a pretty wrapper with a witty marketing push, and it sells like gold. They'll even smile while smearing it down their gullets.

That is the troubling aspect. People are bumbling all over themselves in adoration and worship over his WORDS while his deeds have been SHIT...the same old SHIT we've had to smell for the past eight years. The only difference is he's able to talk without tripping over his tongue. Check that; he's able to read the teleprompter without tripping over his tongue.

[blackzc]

In the Nobel committee's own words, he won due to his efforts for international peace. If you don't think that's Nobel Prize-worthy, you clearly don't understand what the prize even stands for.
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He was nominated 12 days after taking oath. This is retarded. Not that i give a shit about a nobel peace prize. No one i look up to has won one.

Besides this was all a diversion so obama could do work on his commie health plan.

Secrete vote on tuesday everyone!!

[Johan]

Well said. (http://townhall.com/columnists/PatBuchanan/2009/10/13/the_affirmative_action_nobel)

When Pat Buchanan is the voice of reason on an issue, one can only surmise how ridiculously STUPID are the people who need HIM to explain reality to them.

Early in the week his award was announced, Obama snubbed the Dalai Lama, the 1989 winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, who has spent 50 years as a courageous voice for the rights of his Tibetan people, who have endured half a century of Chinese communist repression and cultural genocide. Which of these -- the Dalai Lama or Barack Obama -- seems more deserving of a Nobel Prize for Peace?

They have brazenly meddled in the internal affairs of the United States. They have reinforced the impression that Obama is someone who is forever being given prizes -- Ivy League scholarships, law review editorships, prime-time speaking slots at national conventions -- he did not earn. They have put him under moral pressure to mollify a pacifist left. They have brought him to the point, dangerous in politics, where a man becomes the butt of reflexive jokes, as did Bill Clinton in the Monica affair.

These Norwegian groupies, acting out of "adolescent adulation," writes the Financial Times, have exposed themselves as "an annex to the left wing of the U.S. Democratic Party" with a "deeply misguided act" that will "embarrass (Obama's) allies and egg on his detractors."

I think it is absolutely hilarious. It confirms what rational people with a smidgen of intellectual/cognitive ability implicitly know...Obama is the darling of the left despite his lack of tangible achievements and his hollow, lying rhetoric.

Hey progressives; enjoy your rendition...Predator bombings...indefinite extra-judicial detainment (Guantanamo, Bagram...makes no difference)...increased troop totals and deaths in Afghanistan...continuing presence in Iraq...and the like. Your silence, and support of the man sustaining these policies, is remarkable for its brazen hypocrisy.

[Booda]

How to Win the Nobel Peace Prize In 12 Days

Tommy De Seno
- FOXNews.com
- October 09, 2009
How to Win the Nobel Peace Prize In 12 Days

Let's take a look at the president's first 12 days in the White House according to his public schedule to see what he did to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize.


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Editor's Note: Although President Obama had only been in office for 12 days before the nominations for this year's Nobel Peace prize closed the entire process actually takes a full year. According to the official Nobel Prize Web site invitation letters are sent out in September. Every year, the Norwegian Nobel Committee sends out thousands of letters inviting a qualified and select number of people to submit their nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize. The deadline to submit nominations is February 1. -- Two hundred five names were submitted for the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize, 33 of which are organizations. A short list of nominees is prepared in February and March. The short list is subject to adviser review from March until August. At the beginning of October, the Nobel Committee chooses the Nobel Peace Prize Laureates through a majority vote. The decision is final and without appeal. The names of the Nobel Peace Prize Laureates are then announced."

Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize this morning. Over the last decade the only requirement to win the prize was that the nominee had to be critical of George W. Bush (see Al Gore, Mohamed El Baradei and Jimmy Carter).

President Obama has broken new ground here. Nominations for potential winners of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize ended on February 1. The president took office only 12 days earlier on January 20.

Let's take a look at the president's first 12 days in the White House according to his public schedule to see what he did to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize:

January 20: Sworn in as president. Went to a parade. Partied.

January 21: Asked bureaucrats to re-write guidelines for information requests. Held an "open house" party at the White House.

January 22: Signed Executive Orders: Executive Branch workers to take ethics pledge; re-affirmed Army Field Manual techniques for interrogations; expressed desire to close Gitmo (how's that working out?)

January 23: Ordered the release of federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries. Lunch with Joe Biden; met with Tim Geithner.

January 24: Budget meeting with economic team.

January 25: Skipped church.

January 26: Gave speech about jobs and energy. Met with Hillary Clinton. Attended Geithner's swearing in ceremony.

January 27: Met with Republicans. Spoke at a clock tower in Ohio.

January 28: Economic meetings in the morning, met with Defense secretary in the afternoon.

January 29: Signed Ledbetter Bill overturning Supreme Court decision on lawsuits over wages. Party in the State Room. Met with Biden.

January 30: Met economic advisers. Gave speech on Middle Class Working Families Task Force. Met with senior enlisted military officials.

January 31: Took the day off.

February 1: Skipped church. Threw a Super Bowl party.

So there you have it. The short path to the Nobel Peace Prize: Party, go to meetings, skip church, release federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries, party some more.

Good grief.

Read more Tommy De Seno at www.JustifiedRight.com

[Johan]

What is exceptionally sad about that is its truth. Obama could sell shit on a stick at the State Fair and be praised for the nutritious nature of the 'food.'