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New details on the Wheel of Time adaptations today as the writer of cinema classic The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift lets everybody know he is assigned to the videogames that will release alongside the planned motion picture.
Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time is regarded as one of the best fantasy series ever written. But now that Jordan has passed on, who should write the upcoming video games? How about Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift writer Chris Morgan? Because that's who it's going to be.
"As a massive fan of The Wheel of Time series, and a lifelong gamer, I jumped at the chance to be part of the Red Eagle Games team," Morgan said in the official release.
"The world that Robert Jordan created is so rich, the characters and storylines so varied and inventive, that I feel like a kid in a candy store. It's really a dream opportunity for me." Wanted, Wanted: Weapons of Fate, Cellular and the forthcoming Gears of War film adaptation.
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DarkDaY
08-05-2009, 01:22 AM
Im ok with this, and the first 3 books were amazing, the rest teetered off, I met him on book 5, he was a real nice guy, genuine, but you could tell when he spoke of his books that he had other plans beyond his contract. Who knows.
Personally, I can name a couple fantasy series that as a whole trump the wheel of time.
Exodus
08-05-2009, 05:36 AM
Personally, I can name a couple fantasy series that as a whole trump the wheel of time.
I never understood the point of these types of comments people like to drop. It's like, showing up to a star trek convention and saying that isaac A.'s take on science fiction is far superiour. So what? It's like talking just for the sake of filling the air up with noise. This isn't a personal attack and I'm not trying to be critical but it's such a painting of negativity that is just a glimpse into your mind. Think about that for a moment, hopefully it'll change the way you think.
I look forward to the adaptations a great deal, a nice spin on the heroes journey, seven samurai etc. etc. elaborate and cultured. I'll admit I actually tolerated tokyo drift. I don't know why I just did. If this guy's really a fan then I hope it really shows in the game. Holding my breath. :)
LilBunnyFuFu
08-05-2009, 05:39 AM
Homestly. why even make a movie of this series? What book is he on now? I like my films with a sense of closure, I don't need WoTXVII coming October 12th, 2037.
Now, The Darksword Trilogy by Weis and Hickman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darksword)... that is a movie I'd like to see.
The 11th book is being split into 3 volumes and finished off by a different writer because the dude who wrote the first 10 is dead.
The Wheel of Time series is evil. It's nearly single-handedly destroyed my joy in reading. The first three or four books are great, the rest are monotonous and rambling. They have literally hundreds of unaddressed subplots that I *know* will never be resolved. The vast majority of the series is women bickering about trivia while straightening their skirts, and godlike men too cowardly to use their power constantly hindered by ridiculous Kryptonite-like situations.
I am reading them now as a show of endurance and stubborn refusal to allow them to defeat me, rather than for entertainment or leisure. I am on book 9 and have decided to take a break and read a few books that I can actually enjoy.
Itchyeyes
08-05-2009, 06:49 AM
Homestly. why even make a movie of this series? What book is he on now?
He, Jordan, is on Book 10. And always will be, since he died in 2007. Brandon Sanderson, author of the Mistborn series, is writing the final 3 books.
And while I agree with Exodus that DarkDay's comment was a little flamebait-ish, I can sympathize with him to some extent. There's nothing more frustrating for me as a reader than being continuously teased for an ending that will never come. Knowing how and when to end your story is every bit as important as character development and plot structure to me when it comes to crafting a good story. And it's a flaw that more than a few, otherwise excellent, fantasy authors (Jordan and Martin in particular spring to mind) succumb to.
DarkDaY
08-05-2009, 09:21 AM
I never understood the point of these types of comments people like to drop. It's like, showing up to a star trek convention and saying that isaac A.'s take on science fiction is far superiour. So what? It's like talking just for the sake of filling the air up with noise. This isn't a personal attack and I'm not trying to be critical but it's such a painting of negativity that is just a glimpse into your mind. Think about that for a moment, hopefully it'll change the way you think.
I look forward to the adaptations a great deal, a nice spin on the heroes journey, seven samurai etc. etc. elaborate and cultured. I'll admit I actually tolerated tokyo drift. I don't know why I just did. If this guy's really a fan then I hope it really shows in the game. Holding my breath. :)
lol, this isn't a personal attach, nor is it meant to be negative, but ill never understand why people drop comments responding to late night posts, its like something in it offended you enough to jump on your high horse and fill the air with even more air. This isn't a personal attach and im not trying to be negative, just having a morning coffee and realize I really do have 2 minutes to throwaway responding to a completely asinine post. Hopefully you'll realize how little power your response had in changing the way I think.:)
DarkDaY
08-05-2009, 09:23 AM
The Wheel of Time series is evil. It's nearly single-handedly destroyed my joy in reading. The first three or four books are great, the rest are monotonous and rambling. They have literally hundreds of unaddressed subplots that I *know* will never be resolved. The vast majority of the series is women bickering about trivia while straightening their skirts, and godlike men too cowardly to use their power constantly hindered by ridiculous Kryptonite-like situations.
I am reading them now as a show of endurance and stubborn refusal to allow them to defeat me, rather than for entertainment or leisure. I am on book 9 and have decided to take a break and read a few books that I can actually enjoy.
Amen brotha, ....but careful, you might get a lecture from Exodus with this attitude:eek:;)
Mrcheesyelf
08-05-2009, 09:35 AM
I am reading The Wheel Of Time series atm, how are they going to make a film of them? Each book could easily fill a film in itself?
As for the game, not sure how that will work, i am only on the start of the 4th book so dont know the whole story but their doesn't seem to be a main storyline/battle that a game would really fit?
Isamura
08-05-2009, 11:33 AM
I really enjoyed this series all the way up to book 6. I still enjoyed reading the rest of the books, however, the experience was less intense. I prefer Songs of Ice and Fire over Wheel of Time now, mainly due to the realism (oh the irony) and savageness of the characters. I will admit that these are the only 2 fantasy series I've read, so I have nothing more to compare it to.
greenapple
08-05-2009, 12:07 PM
Robert Jordan is an example of an incredible world-builder, but a terrible writer.
WOT presents an incredibly rich universe, which took several books to describe. Once that ran out, and he had to actual write about his characters, it clearly went downhill.
This makes for a great video game potential though: great world, feel free to ignore the existing story.
vallor
08-05-2009, 12:13 PM
I am reading The Wheel Of Time series atm, how are they going to make a film of them? Each book could easily fill a film in itself?
As for the game, not sure how that will work, i am only on the start of the 4th book so dont know the whole story but their doesn't seem to be a main storyline/battle that a game would really fit?
Future books in the series are much less epic and have far fewer notable events. Book 5 - 10 prob could only generate 15 or 20 minutes of quality film (if we're lucky). Seriously, they suck balls. Stop reading at book 5 and you'll be happier.
DarkDaY
08-05-2009, 12:14 PM
Future books in the series are much less epic and have far fewer notable events. Book 5 - 10 prob could only generate 15 or 20 minutes of quality film (if we're lucky). Seriously, they suck balls. Stop reading at book 5 and you'll be happier.
Totally, which really sucked as the first couple were bloody amazing.
laggerific
08-05-2009, 12:47 PM
How about we move Legend of the Seeker to HBO to the time slot next to True Blood, so we can have the Sword of Truth as it was meant to be in all of its bloody glory, and then let Wheel of Time have a sprawling multi-season TV series for us to dig our teeth into. WoT is far more suited for network TV than the SoT series.
Chimpbot
08-06-2009, 06:16 AM
I wonder if the games will spend fifteen or twenty minutes slowly panning the camera across dinner sequences to allow us to drink in the intricatley-detailed pork platters.
When you can literally skip pages of description before getting back to actual plot, you start to realize that you're just reading a shitty book. Unfortunately, there's 9 more just like it.
Duskfire
08-06-2009, 09:23 AM
Well, I love the series. Granted its not as well written as A song of Ice and Fire or Thomas Covenant, but I guess I appreciate the immense detail to the world as well as some of the characters. I consider Mat to be one of the greatest fantasy characters in existence, and everytime I come across charismatic roguish characters I cant help but compare them to Mat and have them ultimately pale in comparison.
Verruckt
08-06-2009, 11:19 AM
The Wheel of Time is a classic example of why I can't read fantasy anymore. You have to read at least 3 books to finish the story. Often times more. It's too exhausting.
DarkDaY
08-06-2009, 11:59 AM
Well, I love the series. Granted its not as well written as A song of Ice and Fire or Thomas Covenant, but I guess I appreciate the immense detail to the world as well as some of the characters. I consider Mat to be one of the greatest fantasy characters in existence, and everytime I come across charismatic roguish characters I cant help but compare them to Mat and have them ultimately pale in comparison.
Good call on matt, silk is a close second, sometimes depending on mood I like him better.
greenapple
08-06-2009, 12:25 PM
The Wheel of Time is a classic example of why I can't read fantasy anymore. You have to read at least 3 books to finish the story. Often times more. It's too exhausting.
Try Guy Gavriel Kay. He mostly writes single-volume stuff.
"The Lions of Al-Rassan" and "Tigana" are both excellent single books from Kay. Plus, he's hands down a better writer than the Jordan/Goodkind/Salvatore bunch.
Chrome Dome
08-06-2009, 08:48 PM
He, Jordan, is on Book 10. And always will be, since he died in 2007. Brandon Sanderson, author of the Mistborn series, is writing the final 3 books.
And while I agree with Exodus that DarkDay's comment was a little flamebait-ish, I can sympathize with him to some extent. There's nothing more frustrating for me as a reader than being continuously teased for an ending that will never come. Knowing how and when to end your story is every bit as important as character development and plot structure to me when it comes to crafting a good story. And it's a flaw that more than a few, otherwise excellent, fantasy authors (Jordan and Martin in particular spring to mind) succumb to.
Book 11 is sitting on my shelf. It's book 12 that Jordan was working on when he died. I think the problem is that he created a world that could easily encompass multiple series of books like Modesitt's Recluce, but instead of tying off a story and starting a new one he just kept letting the one series balloon. I was very worried when I found out he planned on finishing the series with book 12. There really are too many open story arcs for there to be a satisfying ending if that were the case. The later books also seemed a little more disappointing because less and less happened in each subsequent book. I'm still going to buy the rest of the books when they come out though.
Duskfire
08-07-2009, 01:06 AM
Book 11 is sitting on my shelf. It's book 12 that Jordan was working on when he died. I think the problem is that he created a world that could easily encompass multiple series of books like Modesitt's Recluce, but instead of tying off a story and starting a new one he just kept letting the one series balloon. I was very worried when I found out he planned on finishing the series with book 12. There really are too many open story arcs for there to be a satisfying ending if that were the case. The later books also seemed a little more disappointing because less and less happened in each subsequent book. I'm still going to buy the rest of the books when they come out though.
See, I just dont share the hate that some people seme to have for the later books. Yes Crossroads of Twilight sucked, as did Path of Daggers, but I actually vastly liked Book 11 (maybe because it was a mostly a Mat book and Egwene actually does stuff.) Book 9 was also quite good, as was the seventh.
Maybe I am just easy :p
greenapple
08-07-2009, 09:30 AM
Maybe I am just easy :p
I'd probably flag you as "forgiving", rather than easy.
Every book past the 3rd could be condensed by half or more, with the problem getting worse for each successive book.
The world/setting, the plot, and the basics of the characters are still interesting, it just all could have been done with a lot of bad filler writing removed (enough with the friggin' skirt and braid pulling!).
Books four and on, if compressed into a couple of volumes, would be an enjoyable read. As it is, WOT reads like the scenes of an anime described in painful, verbose, repetitive detail.
Samstag
08-07-2009, 10:02 AM
Book 11 is sitting on my shelf. It's book 12 that Jordan was working on when he died. I think the problem is that he created a world that could easily encompass multiple series of books like Modesitt's Recluce...
Damn you for bringing up that name! :mad: I'd completely repressed the memory of reading that series and now the old wounds are all fresh again.
Modesitt's the only fantasy writer I know that makes Jordan's work look short and to the point.
Exodus
08-07-2009, 12:38 PM
The only problem I have with the series later on is the political 'filler' concerning elain/elane's maneuvering to gain the lion throne. Anything regarding shadar haran or the forsaken and the epicness of the ashamen, or when lews therin vast knowledge is used to create something out of saidan. I liked the series a lot and i can understand why people dislike it later on it definitely bogs down.
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