Firefly Season 2?

[Citizen Philip]

I happened to notice this at Slashdot. Not directly game related, yet interesting: "ovanklot writes "It seems that Brilliant Screen Entertainment is looking to see if there is an audience for a second season of the science fiction show FireFly. From the article: 'It's possible that subscribers may choose one of three playback options; monthly DVD deliveries, TV On-Demand using your cable or satellite provider, or computer viewing via Streaming Download.'" They are asking folks to fill out a short survey to gather demographics for support in their efforts to get Fox to release the show to them. The site also stresses that they want neither money nor confidential personal information."

Link to Petition: http://www.fireflyseason2.com/BrowncoatProfile.asp

I got the first season on DvD and was both impressed and disappointed. Impressed because the quality was high and disappointed that once I view all the episodes, there is currently no more.

[Lon Lon Rabbit]

Awesome, but I thought Wedon said he was done with TV?
Is he even willing to assist in the production of more if Fox releases the license?
I HOPE TO HELL he is, but I was sure I heard somewhere he only wanted to go with movies now...

[KSmitty]

I was really hoping Sci Fi could wrest the show away from Fox, I think it would do well on that network. I don't have a satellite, so I'll opt for direct to DVD edition, maybe streaming video if it is REALLY cheap, I have never been a big fan of streaming content.


-K

[Commissar Rob]

I thought I'd read somewhere or the other (it was on teh internet so it must be true) that Whedon said he'd work on T.V. but not with FOX. Here's hoping!

[NoName]

I filled out the survey thing when I saw this on slashdot. I wouldn't advise anyone getting their hopes up though.

Fox owns the rights to Firefly. Some small no-name producing company will have some serious trouble getting rights to the series. Plus without any word from Whedon backing this it sounds like an obscure fanboy effort.

I like the dream, the cards are just against us.

[El Gato]

Oh great.
Why did I have to read this before going to bed? Now my hopes are up and I won't sleep.
Damned internet.

[Bone]

Whedon never said he was done with TV or Firefly. Recently he said he'd continue the story in any medium given the chance, to clear up the misquotes about the subject.

Fox does own the TV rights though, and it seems like a pissing match between them and Joss since they apparently despise each other. I think we'd be more likely to get straight to video Serenity episodes from Universal.

[Suicidal ShiZuru]

I dont care how I would get it but more would be great.

[Veloxi]

Ain't gonna happen people. As a self-declared Firefly Whore, I've looked into this (as have fellow fans) and while they mean well, the possiblity is almost nil. ;)

[rein]

It sucks that this show is held hostage by FOX. :(

[Zanzibar]

I'd rather have more movies. The odds of this making it back to TV and NOT getting fucked over the same way Season 1 did are nil.

[Veloxi]

It sucks that this show is held hostage by FOX. :(
Yup, and they ain't gonna be lettin' somethin' that's sellin' so well on DVD go without a tussle. ;)

[Crabby]

While the writing can be considered "high quality" the productions values for the series itself can not even come close to the neighborhood of that descriptive.

If it ever happens they had better invest a few more pents in some higher quality recording gear.

[Grifter]

Sci-fi needs to beat Fox down and take it from them then give it the same backing as Battlestar Gallactica.

I am thinking we kidnap 24 and House and refuse to let them go unless we get Firefly.

[Rifter]

...and while they mean well, the possiblity is almost nil. ;)
The chance of getting a major motion picture created from a TV show that was canceled early, is also almost nil. There is magic in Firefly, never give up the hope. :-)

[rein]

While the writing can be considered "high quality" the productions values for the series itself can not even come close to the neighborhood of that descriptive.

If it ever happens they had better invest a few more pents in some higher quality recording gear.

LOL! I'm so stupid I thought they were going for a style.

[Draft]

Jesus Christ. Firefly fans are insane.

[xxBlackCrossxx]

second that motion.

is there gonna be a videogame or something? why is this news?

[Abash Alarmist]

second that motion.

is there gonna be a videogame or something? why is this news?

Because there is a large, known, congregation of Firefly fans that regularly visit this site. If you don't care for it, don't read it. Or even better, don't come back.

[LogainAblar]

Jesus Christ. Firefly fans are insane.

You make it sound like Firefly fans are as rabid as Star-Trek fans.

If you don't like it, that's fine. Just understand that most of the people who watch the show tend to like it, and it would have done much better had Fox not butchered its run (completely out of order).

Then again, this is the same network that cancelled Arrested Development and Family Guy.

[The Iron Weasel]

Then again, this is the same network that cancelled Arrested Development and Family Guy.

Lets not forget my favourite, Futurama.

[Krom]

Ain't gonna happen people. As a self-declared Firefly Whore, I've looked into this (as have fellow fans) and while they mean well, the possiblity is almost nil. ;)

He's looked into it. Discussion over.

[LogainAblar]

Lets not forget my favourite, Futurama.

Good call, can't believe I forgot to mention it.

[Citizen Philip]

Jesus Christ. Firefly fans are insane.

I once read the Slashdot stories wondering "Hrmm, what is all this Firefly stuff all about?" The Slashdot articles and comments; not too surprised by the actions of FOX, playing epsidodes out of order, random show times and then cancelling the show.

I never liked Buffy the Vampire Slayer, so I never really gave it much thought. I heard the DvDs were a good buy and very affordable: asked for them for Christmas.

Then I saw the movie. I thought it was great! Now I have it all on DvD and wish their were more.

And yes, this is a very pretty petition. But damnit, I think the geek population is big enough we have the money and tech knowledge that we can afford to bankroll our own serialized TV program: and have it sent to us by any means a network could throw at us (streaming, DVD, etc).

[copasetic]

I'll say this for fox. At least they put these shows on the air. Which is quite a bit more you can say for the other networks. Also, to be fair, all of these forementioned shows were getting horrible ratings when canceled.

/big fan of all these shows
//especially firefly and arrested development

[51|RandoM]

Make it a double-feature, a new season of firefly packaged with a new season of cowboy bebop.

[Crabby]

LOL! I'm so stupid I thought they were going for a style.

No seriously, you can't call what the show does poorly "style" and mark it off as immune to criticism.

[automaton]

Fox loves to stick great shows on Thursday or Friday night where they can do nothing but die. I could probably list a dozen series that have been cancelled because Fox stuck them in their graveyard. Strange Realm, Freaky Links, The Lone Gunmen, The Tick, and Firefly come to mind imediately. Dark Angel was doing fine until they stuck it on Friday to die. It has gotten to a point where I don't watch anything on Fox on Friday no matter how good it seems because I know it will be cancelled.

[zipR]

It sucks that this show is held hostage by FOX. :(
They're doin the same thing to Herman's Head and Temptation Island.

[xxBlackCrossxx]

Because there is a large, known, congregation of Firefly fans that regularly visit this site. If you don't care for it, don't read it. Or even better, don't come back.


hey look I came back. this should be posted in an off topic forum if that is the case. calm down buddy.

[Veloxi]

Jesus Christ. Firefly fans are insane.
We sure are, hense the wearing of rediculous pieces of clothing (http://www.brubin.net/Img/BrianJayneHat2.jpg). And yes, that is me.

[Malovech]

Firefly is moronic, almost as moronic as Babylon 5

[Veloxi]

Firefly is moronic, almost as moronic as Babylon 5
But not nearly as moronic as you. ;)

Couldn't resist...

[Abash Alarmist]

hey look I came back.

Unfortunate..

[PIPBoy3000]

I'm an admitted Firefly fan. It was an amazing thing when they made a movie, defying the conventional wisdom about how things work. Sadly, it seems to have broken even, but not much more, so I think that the idea gets to lay fallow for a long while.

These days I'm hoping the brain of Joss Whedon comes up with something even more amazing, preferrably on t.v. where long-lived shows have lengthy character arcs. Sure, do Wonder Woman. Take it easy for a year or so. Then do something cool.

[jeffool]

I happened across an episode in a recent SciFi marathon of the show a week or two ago and saw the episode 'Out of Gas', which essentialy tells the origins of the crew. Based on that one show I'm definitely picking up the DVD and the movie. And I don't really care much for sci-fi.

If Fox has the TV rights, and Whedon actually owns it, then what's to stop someone from producing "OnDemand" movies of it?

[random johnald?]

Ooooh man, you are lucky, jeffool. Out of Gas is basically the best episode of any TV show ever. But I'm probably only saying that because its the one I've watched most recently.

It always happens when I go through the season that whichever episode I watch last, I'll say is my favorate. Episodes 1, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, and 14 are all my favorate episodes ever.

[boratika]

While the writing can be considered "high quality" the productions values for the series itself can not even come close to the neighborhood of that descriptive.

If it ever happens they had better invest a few more pents in some higher quality recording gear.

Someone didn't watch the comentary...

[rein]

Fox loves to stick great shows on Thursday or Friday night where they can do nothing but die. I could probably list a dozen series that have been cancelled because Fox stuck them in their graveyard. Strange Realm, Freaky Links, The Lone Gunmen, The Tick, and Firefly come to mind imediately. Dark Angel was doing fine until they stuck it on Friday to die. It has gotten to a point where I don't watch anything on Fox on Friday no matter how good it seems because I know it will be cancelled.

I was told that I was the only person that watched Freaky Links. :) I really liked it for some reason. It was quirky, eerie, a little funny and not X-Files. I loved X-Files but is was good to see a show that dealt with paranormal activities to not be like X-Files. I keep hoping for a Freaky Links dvd release.

[a|A]

Trillogy of movies is much more likely.
Joss has said so himself.

Pity we'll never know about book :(

[superherotaco]

I suggest anyone interested in firefly checkout the uncycylopedia.org article about it.

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Firefly

[ianagain]

Some of the recent Firefly attention might because this month Comcast has made Firefly available on their OnDemand service for 2.99 for three episodes at a time. Two caveats: they are in the broadcast order, not the chronological, and they're in full-screen and look quite lousy compared to the DVDs. However, it is much easier to get your feet wet with three episodes for 2.99 (and Comcast gives you 24 hours to watch them in) then jump in with the 39.99 full set purchase. I wasn't a fan until I watched a handful this weekend, and I went out and bought the DVD set immediately afterwards.

ian.

[xxBlackCrossxx]

I was told that I was the only person that watched Freaky Links. :) I really liked it for some reason. It was quirky, eerie, a little funny and not X-Files. I loved X-Files but is was good to see a show that dealt with paranormal activities to not be like X-Files. I keep hoping for a Freaky Links dvd release.

FL was pretty good. As for FF, I'll take JW's Astonishing Xmen run over it anyday.

[Lutheran]

No seriously, you can't call what the show does poorly "style" and mark it off as immune to criticism.


What does the show do poorly? Be more specific then production values because I completely disagree.

[Lutheran]

I'm an admitted Firefly fan. It was an amazing thing when they made a movie, defying the conventional wisdom about how things work. Sadly, it seems to have broken even, but not much more, so I think that the idea gets to lay fallow for a long while.

These days I'm hoping the brain of Joss Whedon comes up with something even more amazing, preferrably on t.v. where long-lived shows have lengthy character arcs. Sure, do Wonder Woman. Take it easy for a year or so. Then do something cool.


Its not come close yet to breaking even but it will and then some in the next year or so as the dvd sales will put it over the top. In any case , I am quite certain there will be more of this universe. Joss simply loves the cast and the fanbase grows on a daily basis. Its inevitable that there will be more.

[random johnald?]

Plus, I am pretty sure that the movie's release boosted the Firefly box set sales. I have two friends who saw the movie just because the commercials looked cool, and afterwards I talked to them about it and told them to pick up the set, and they did. I'm fairly positive that this isn't an isolated incident, either.

Firefly fans are like zombies, except we spread cheerfulness instead of infection. Plus, we bite a bit more.

[raVen]

I came to know and love the series very recently also. Word of mouth seems to be a pretty huge factor in people seeing it or not, I already have a few friends hooked (to what there is :P)

In fact I only watched it following the praise I heard on these forums, so thanks to those who submit these news pieces even if they aren't strictly gaming related.

Btw, if amazon's sales rankings are anything to go by, Firefly and Serenity are both doing extremely well. Firefly - http://www.fireflyfans.net/amazon.asp Serenity - http://www.fireflyfans.net/amazonserenity.asp

[Zeal]

Firefly fans are the scourge of the Earth.

Buffy ruled, so did Angel. Firefly sucked, so it was canceled. Deal.

[raVen]

Nice one Zeal! :D

*high-five*

[easi]

This is the stupidest show ever created. I also hate cowboys.

[Everlost_MI]

Firefly fans are the scourge of the Earth.

Buffy ruled, so did Angel. Firefly sucked, so it was canceled. Deal.

So Angel must have sucked then. No pun intended. Because it was also cancelled as noted in these two news articles by the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/buffy/2004/02/16/9502.shtml) and USAToday (http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2004-02-17-angel-cancelled_x.htm).

But for the record Buffy, Angel AND Firefly ruled.

[Lord_Don]

This is the stupidest show ever created. I also hate cowboys.
What about cowboys on spaceships? ;)

-LD

[reimomo]

What about cowboys on spaceships? ;)

-LD

Don't forget the SPACE HOOKERS... never enough space hooker these days. The irony of an Angel fan calling Firefly trash isn't going to fade for days :) Maybe if they had plastic-faced aliens for people to have sex with Firefly would have gone over better?

[Malovech]

So Angel must have sucked then. No pun intended. Because it was also cancelled as noted in these two news articles by the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/buffy/2004/02/16/9502.shtml) and USAToday (http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2004-02-17-angel-cancelled_x.htm).

But for the record Buffy, Angel AND Firefly ruled.

Wrong, wrong and wrong, all three of those shows sucked.

[miah]

Fox loves to stick great shows on Thursday or Friday night where they can do nothing but die. I could probably list a dozen series that have been cancelled because Fox stuck them in their graveyard. Strange Realm, Freaky Links, The Lone Gunmen, The Tick, and Firefly come to mind imediately. Dark Angel was doing fine until they stuck it on Friday to die. It has gotten to a point where I don't watch anything on Fox on Friday no matter how good it seems because I know it will be cancelled.

Hah, Peter (in family guy) did this for us in episode 'North by North Quahog'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_by_North_Quahog

"Peter lists the shows Family Guy was cancelled to make room for: Dark Angel, Titus, Undeclared, Action, That 80's Show, Wonderfalls, Fastlane, Andy Richter Controls the Universe, Skin, Girls Club, Cracking Up, The Pitts, Firefly, Get Real, FreakyLinks, Wanda at Large, Costello, The Lone Gunmen, A Minute with Stan Hooper, Normal, Ohio, Pasadena, Harsh Realm, Keen Eddie, The $treet, American Embassy, Cedric the Entertainer, The Tick, Luis, and Greg the Bunny. All of these FOX shows were cancelled after short runs, usually not even airing their first season. Some of these shows (most notably Firefly, Wonderfalls, and The Tick) have found cult status through DVDs. Fans of these series often cite FOX's ineffective advertising of the show and random time slots as the cause for their cancellations."

I thinkt he people at fox are just incredible idiots. They aquire a great series, the series gets a huge amount of fans, then they will move the airdate to a friday, or constantly cancel it for 'random sporting event' great, because you can't watch that same 'random sporting event' on like 834 other channels. Its obvious what FOX is about, and thats 'making money' they could give a shit less about what fans think because it doesn't matter if they piss off the fans of one show when they cancel it, we'll all go crawling back because they'll just put a new great show on, then cancel that too. What annoys me is that we all just don't learn and stop watching their channels.

[Librum]

I'd pay to see another Firefly movie, probably. The first one was okay - which is what surprised me. After all the ranting and raving I've seen and heard with friends and strangers feverishly pressing copies of the TV series into my hands, I found it to be on the bland side of mediocre.

I didn't care for any of Whedon's other series, either, so it must just be I don't care for his writing style all that much.

[agentgray]

I happened across an episode in a recent SciFi marathon of the show a week or two ago and saw the episode 'Out of Gas', which essentialy tells the origins of the crew. Based on that one show I'm definitely picking up the DVD and the movie. And I don't really care much for sci-fi.

If Fox has the TV rights, and Whedon actually owns it, then what's to stop someone from producing "OnDemand" movies of it?
I love it when Mal meets Kaylee. The girl next door is hot and knows spaceships.

[miah]

I love it when Mal meets Kaylee. The girl next door is hot and knows spaceships.

hahah ya great scene!

[Crabby]

What does the show do poorly? Be more specific then production values because I completely disagree.

If the physical video quality of the show was intentional than the movie would have maintained the same level, wouldn't it? Begs the question, don't you think? If someone is going to come at me with comments concerning the "style" of the show than why wasn't that maintained for the movie? Budget . Which is what I was saying to begin with before some girly and insane Firefly fan came at me with hideous screeching not unlike the mythical banshee.

[SteveRage]

If the physical video quality of the show was intentional than the movie would have maintained the same level, wouldn't it? Begs the question, don't you think? If someone is going to come at me with comments concerning the "style" of the show than why wasn't that maintained for the movie? Budget . Which is what I was saying to begin with before some girly and insane Firefly fan came at me with hideous screeching not unlike the mythical banshee.

OR, Joss Whedon made stylistic consessions in order to get the movie made and his story told. Look, you may not like the style, that's your opnion, but I have the DVDs and see no problem with the "video quality".
Let it go, dude, this doens't even effect you.

[Zeal]

Angel was prematurely canceled by a dickhead WB president who was later fired. WB then approached Whedon and said they wanted to either bring the series back or do TV movies. Both Whedon and the entire cast declined.

Now I just watch 24 and Smallville. I liked Angel better than both.

[Crabby]

OR, Joss Whedon made stylistic consessions in order to get the movie made and his story told. Look, you may not like the style, that's your opnion, but I have the DVDs and see no problem with the "video quality".
Let it go, dude, this doens't even effect you.


A lot of things don't affect a lot of people. But, passion is life.

[Tohoya]

Ooooh man, you are lucky, jeffool. Out of Gas is basically the best episode of any TV show ever. But I'm probably only saying that because its the one I've watched most recently.

It always happens when I go through the season that whichever episode I watch last, I'll say is my favorate. Episodes 1, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, and 14 are all my favorate episodes ever.

Out of Gas is easily the best 45 minutes of TV ever produced, ever.

[random johnald?]

Yeah, but I also say that about Shindig whenever I watch it, or Safe, or Objects in Space, or Trash, or Jaynestown. They are all the best 45 minutes of television ever, but yeah, Out of Gas rules.