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Kefkataran
01-23-2006, 10:48 PM
1Up (http://www.1up.com) has posted a final update to the DOA stategy guide scandal (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3147338) from earlier:

After a thorough review of the guide and discussions with the author and members of the DOA Central community, we have reposted the Dead or Alive 4 strategy guide -- in the process giving DOA Central credit for having formulated strategies that the guide made reference to.

1UP's policy is to always give credit where credit is due (read any of our news stories or features and you'll see that they're often littered with links to external sources -- make no mistake, we're more than happy to acknowledge that this site is in large part powered by communities, both internal and external). In this case, Richard, the author, unfortunately neglected to do so. Nearly all of his guide was written on his own -- I saw him slaving away on it for the better part of two weeks -- but he did use certain posts on the DOA Central message board as reference. It was an oversite not to make mention of this -- likely because of the nature of the source (various posts on a fan forum, as opposed to a published piece elsewhere) -- but he should have.

The credit has been issued, as it should have been from the start, and the DOA Central forum posters have been thankfully very understanding.

This was a pretty terrible little event, but it's good to see 1Up owning up to their mistake.

IndependentGMR
01-24-2006, 07:19 AM
I wonder if "Richard" learned anything about plagiarism in college?

Sir_Brizz
01-24-2006, 07:56 AM
How do you plagiarize from a forum? 99% of the stuff on there isn't reputable.

AniAko
01-24-2006, 07:57 AM
I wonder if "Richard" learned anything about plagiarism in college?

What I learned about plagarism in college....
You can get away with it if you're smart about it.

I gave away my old coding assignments to students that wanted them. I figured it would make the job pool a little more shallow when I left school :D. I stripped my work of any comments and replaced specific variable names with "dummy" iterations to cover my ass. To my knowledge, those students got away with it.

It may seem like I don't care, or condone plagarism, but it couldn't be farther from the truth. They might have cheated, but it was with my consent to use my work and claim it as their own. Afterall it wasn't award-winning, cancer-curing code we were writing ;)

Reanimated
01-24-2006, 09:04 AM
http://xbox360.gamedaily.com/game/features/?gameid=2646&id=870

Sir_Brizz
01-24-2006, 09:20 AM
:lol:

I guess he'll go running back to FoxSpyGN...

Kefkataran
01-24-2006, 10:12 AM
How do you plagiarize from a forum? 99% of the stuff on there isn't reputable.

The way it's worded, it sounds like what he 'plagiarized' was the strategies that were suggested on the boards.

Sir_Brizz
01-24-2006, 10:18 AM
Well, it all sounds retarded to me. I frequent the BeyondUnreal forums, and if someone were to write a strategy guide that featured anything I wrote over there, I would be happy to see it printed. I wouldn't give two shakes that they had "swiped" it from me or some crap.

Kefkataran
01-24-2006, 11:45 AM
Well, it all sounds retarded to me. I frequent the BeyondUnreal forums, and if someone were to write a strategy guide that featured anything I wrote over there, I would be happy to see it printed. I wouldn't give two shakes that they had "swiped" it from me or some crap.

Interesting P.O.V. You wouldn't want them to give you credit or anything?

Sir_Brizz
01-24-2006, 11:53 AM
Well, there is two parts to this I suppose.

1) If I write something on an Internet Forum that is catalogued by Google, I fully expect that my work might be found and copied for a variety of reasons, not only centered around a public gaming site. Additionally, any of my posts that would have been found useful were written for the community, not because I wanted to get my name well known or that I'm some kind of God when it comes to strategies or anything of that nature.

2) I give credit where credit is due and I HOPE that others will do the same. I would not, however, lose all respect for anyone who simply took content from a forum post and put it into their written work. I would personally be happy that those things were in a position to help a wider audience. More so than that my ego had been attacked.

Both of these cover this issue. 1up certainly should have given credit to DOA Central as the source of some of their work. However, I think it's blatant ego-feeding/artificial e-penis enlargement that this story has come to see the light of day. All of these allegations could have been resolved privately. I know that the people that run 1up aren't jerks.

Kefkataran
01-24-2006, 12:17 PM
1up certainly should have given credit to DOA Central as the source of some of their work. However, I think it's blatant ego-feeding/artificial e-penis enlargement that this story has come to see the light of day. All of these allegations could have been resolved privately. I know that the people that run 1up aren't jerks.

If anything, their swift reaction to this and immediately giving credit to the people involved and owning up to their mistake proves that they aren't jerks. I agree with you there.