Sega to Condemn PC's this spring... [Archive]

H.Bogard

01-23-2006, 10:57 AM

According to eToychest (http://www.etoychest.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3211&Itemid=29) one of the most popular Xbox360 launch titles is about to make its way to the PC...

According to Sega' German website (http://www.sega-europe.com/de/NewsStory/959.htm), Monolith's Condemned: Criminal Origins is slated to arrive for the PC in March. According to the site, this version will be the "uncensored original verson".

Lets hope it doesnt make a bad port...

Cool AN

01-23-2006, 11:03 AM

Monolith bad PC game? Does not compute.

thecrazyd

01-23-2006, 11:05 AM

Lets hope it doesnt make a bad port...
Monolith? Make a bad PC game? That is not Matrix Online? I expect greatness.

*EDIT* Too slow.

AntB

01-23-2006, 11:10 AM

Monolith really came out with some great titles in their time. Then they made Matrix O.

Deadend

01-23-2006, 11:21 AM

I hope the controls port over right.

Oh well, I can always use a 360 controller on the PC.

ChaosDent

01-23-2006, 11:27 AM

I don't see why it won't port over well. Condemned was slated to be multiplatform and was quietly shifted to Xbox 360 exclusive.

The Radical Cleric

01-23-2006, 11:30 AM

Well, since it's being ported to a substandard system, it might lose something in the translation. I can't imagine the PC version will be able to match the 360 version...

Mortis

01-23-2006, 11:30 AM

I was wondering if they were going to port it while I was playing it last night. It's a great game but it is quite short, on the 360 there is some replay value in the form of achievements. Unless they add some multiplayer I think they should shoot for a $30 pricepoint.

thecrazyd

01-23-2006, 11:32 AM

Well, since it's being ported to a substandard system, it might lose something in the translation. I can't imagine the PC version will be able to match the 360 version...
Haha. Hows the water under your bridge?

GrinR

01-23-2006, 11:33 AM

Kefkataran

01-23-2006, 11:33 AM

Well, since it's being ported to a substandard system, it might lose something in the translation. I can't imagine the PC version will be able to match the 360 version...

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... *deep breath* ... hahahahahahaha.

Whew. Okay. That was my laugh break for the day.

Anywho, I'm pretty psyched about this. Since I probably won't own a 360 for quite a while, I'll be picking this up if the port doesn't go bad.

The Radical Cleric

01-23-2006, 11:35 AM

Haha. Hows the water under your bridge?

Was I that obvious? :D

Deadend

01-23-2006, 11:40 AM

I'm really sick of "uncensored" versions of whatever. It's invariably something that involves 1-2 seconds more of something I didn't even notice the first time around. Also, it cheapens the notion of censoring. The government didn't CENSOR this game, the publisher did in an effort to maximize sales.

Well, remember, the information seems to be from Germany, which has quite a bit of violence censorship. So there is a chance that the German version was censored.

But you are damn right on the Unrated versions of movies. Mostly they are unrated because the studios were too cheap to get the movie re-rated after throwing in scenes that deserved to be cut anyway.

Worldcrafter

01-23-2006, 11:45 AM

My friend and I downloaded the demo for this onto his 360 yesterday, and we were both really excited by the game. I was going to buy a copy (for my future 360) and let him play my copy, but now I'll have to think about it first. Aw hell, he's a poor college student, and I'm a gaming addict with money to burn. I'll probably grab a copy just so we can play it on his system.

Kefkataran

01-23-2006, 12:05 PM

dotbomb

01-23-2006, 12:11 PM

Well there we have it... I guess all xbox 360 owners, myself included, need to wait a couple month's after a seemingly exclusive title is released to see if it will indeed remain exclusive.

Kefkataran

01-23-2006, 12:17 PM

Well there we have it... I guess all xbox 360 owners, myself included, need to wait a couple month's after a seemingly exclusive title is released to see if it will indeed remain exclusive.

A lot of people were predicting that from the outset, though. That said, the good news is that I'd expect a lot more crossover to Xbox from other consoles this generation. For example, I really wouldn't be shocked to see Square finally doing multi-console versions of the FF games.

thecrazyd

01-23-2006, 12:23 PM

The only reason I was slightly interested in the 360 goes to a system I already own! It is the original XBox all over again.

kizke

01-23-2006, 12:27 PM

Well, since it's being ported to a substandard system, it might lose something in the translation. I can't imagine the PC version will be able to match the 360 version...

Oh, my sides!

dotbomb

01-23-2006, 12:29 PM

A lot of people were predicting that from the outset, though. That said, the good news is that I'd expect a lot more crossover to Xbox from other consoles this generation. For example, I really wouldn't be shocked to see Square finally doing multi-console versions of the FF games

Oh the port makes perfect sense from the publisher's perspective and I may pick it up for the PC at some point as I liked the demo on the 360 (and loved FEAR). I just think it hurts MS if they can't truly line up exclusives esp. with the price tag the 360 library of games is sporting. This will make consumers even more cautious about what they buy for the 360.

Getting Square to publish FF for Xbox 360 would make me very happy.

Yeti2005

01-23-2006, 12:30 PM

I hope they return the favor to the 360 and port F.E.A.R. from the PC to the 360. Hell it uses the same engine so it shouldn't be too bad.

Kefkataran

01-23-2006, 01:01 PM

I hope they return the favor to the 360 and port F.E.A.R. from the PC to the 360. Hell it uses the same engine so it shouldn't be too bad.

That would be pretty kick-ass for conseole-only players indeed.

Oh the port makes perfect sense from the publisher's perspective and I may pick it up for the PC at some point as I liked the demo on the 360 (and loved FEAR). I just think it hurts MS if they can't truly line up exclusives esp. with the price tag the 360 library of games is sporting. This will make consumers even more cautious about what they buy for the 360.

I totally agree that it hurts MS. I mean, I'm probably one of the only people around here who never picked up an Xbox. The reason? Most the great games for Xbox were also ported to other systems in forms that were at least passable if not identical. It's still too early to say all hope is lost though, and I still think I'll probably end up getting a 360 eventually for Xbox Live if nothing else. :p

GrinR

01-23-2006, 01:36 PM

Most the great games for Xbox were also ported to other systems in forms that were at least passable if not identical.

This is a great topic unto itself. I dispute this assertion!

Crimson Skies, Mechassault, Jade Empire, Phantom Dust, and Burnout 3 (disputably) were HOT Xbox titles I never got elsewhere. I know there are more, but I'm busy at work...

H.Bogard

01-23-2006, 01:47 PM

thecrazyd

01-23-2006, 01:52 PM

This is a great topic unto itself. I dispute this assertion!

Crimson Skies, Mechassault, Jade Empire, Phantom Dust, and Burnout 3 (disputably) were HOT Xbox titles I never got elsewhere. I know there are more, but I'm busy at work...
Burnout 3 was on the PS2.

dotbomb

01-23-2006, 01:56 PM

I mean, I'm probably one of the only people around here who never picked up an Xbox.

I am one as well and I finally caved. And yes porting FEAR to the 360 is a great idea for Monolith to consider. That game was amazing.

This is a great topic unto itself. I dispute this assertion!

Crimson Skies, Mechassault, Jade Empire, Phantom Dust, and Burnout 3 (disputably) were HOT Xbox titles I never got elsewhere. I know there are more, but I'm busy at work...

Yes, and indeed is why I finally caved and bought a 360 after years of avoiding consoles. I can cherry pick the great games that I missed. Most of these games are contained in the 200 or so BC games on the 360 too. Bonus.

Worldcrafter

01-23-2006, 02:04 PM

So your supposedly poor friend owns a nextgen console...and you dont.....and you also play the demos that he downloads....
/mixup

His brother works at a tech store and got him a good deal on the only 360 in the store. But after buying a 360 and 3 games, yeah, he's pretty broke. I'm interested in getting a 360, but supplies are still limited, and I'm a little bit more interested in buying myself a car right now.

Kefkataran

01-23-2006, 03:16 PM

Crimson Skies, Mechassault, Jade Empire, Phantom Dust, and Burnout 3 (disputably) were HOT Xbox titles I never got elsewhere. I know there are more, but I'm busy at work...

Oh, I definitely agree that there are some. I just don't think they have the number compared to Gamecube, which has all the huge Nintendo titles, and PS2, which just has a ton of exclusives in general, especially in the genres of RPG and platformer. But the examples you gave (minus Burnout 3) are good, and there's a couple other obvious ones -- the Halo games and Ninja Gaiden.

GrinR

01-23-2006, 03:33 PM

Burnout 3 was on the PS2.

A. Didn't look nearly as good. Not even close.
B. No Live = No online play
C. I did say disputably...
D. You haaaada dispute, didncha?

Kefkataran

01-23-2006, 03:41 PM

A. Didn't look nearly as good. Not even close.
B. No Live = No online play
C. I did say disputably...
D. You haaaada dispute, didncha?

Regardless of any of those points, it still was a multi-console game. :p In my original post I never said that the Xbox versions weren't arguably better than the other console versions.

GrinR

01-23-2006, 04:03 PM

Regardless of any of those points, it still was a multi-console game. :p In my original post I never said that the Xbox versions weren't arguably better than the other console versions.

Niggler!!

Burnout was on the Gameboy too, but that doesn't make it any more valid for the point you were trying to make:

"I'm probably one of the only people around here who never picked up an Xbox. The reason? Most the great games for Xbox were also ported to other systems in forms that were at least passable if not identical."

Translation: I could play most great games on other consoles, so I didn't need an xbox.

I was just saying that Burnout, although available elsewhere, was something worth getting an xbox for. POINT COUNTERPOINT AAAND - GO!

:-)

thecrazyd

01-23-2006, 04:47 PM

Niggler!!

Burnout was on the Gameboy too, but that doesn't make it any more valid for the point you were trying to make:

"I'm probably one of the only people around here who never picked up an Xbox. The reason? Most the great games for Xbox were also ported to other systems in forms that were at least passable if not identical."

Translation: I could play most great games on other consoles, so I didn't need an xbox.

I was just saying that Burnout, although available elsewhere, was something worth getting an xbox for. POINT COUNTERPOINT AAAND - GO!

:-)
So, I should have bought an XBox and a subscription to Live! to play Burnout 3? I don't believe so. The only game that had me needing to buy a Box was Psychonauts, and that went multi console. I am sure it is a damn fine console, and gets the long end of the multi console games, but I need exclusives to justify the cost.

Kefkataran

01-23-2006, 05:12 PM

I was just saying that Burnout, although available elsewhere, was something worth getting an xbox for. POINT COUNTERPOINT AAAND - GO!

If that's your point, I merely disagree. :p Burnout's great, and I'm sure Burnout multiplayer on Xbox Live is stellar, but it's not enough for me to warrant a purchase of the system, even with the other stuff.

GrinR

01-23-2006, 05:20 PM

Both responses are oversimplifications ignoring the original meaning. Of course nobody should buy a console for one game. Sure it happens (Halo, RE4, GTA) but that's a gross oversimplification. Again, my only point was that Xbox has a substantial number of exclusive titles that make its purchase worthwhile, Burnout 3 being one of them.

thecrazyd

01-23-2006, 05:46 PM

Kefkataran

01-23-2006, 06:10 PM

Again, my only point was that Xbox has a substantial number of exclusive titles that make its purchase worthwhile, Burnout 3 being one of them.

I'm still with Crazyd. Burnout 3 has a couple Xbox-exclusive features, but that doesn't make it an Xbox-exclusive game.

overdrivechao

01-23-2006, 06:27 PM

Yay! I'm glad I didn't buy a 360 again!

IndependentGMR

01-23-2006, 06:55 PM

What was censored? The final boss battle was absolutely brutal.

EGO

01-23-2006, 07:26 PM

So, they "port" one game (that was already running on the PC during development, anyway) and all of a sudden the entire system is doomed?!?

Man, you people are pretty simple.

Besides, everyone knows PC people don't actually BUY software and only steal it, so the sales numbers aren't in waiting for <100k PC owners to buy a game at a much lower profit margin, versus 3x as many console owners buying at a higher price point.

Kefkataran

01-23-2006, 07:43 PM

So, they "port" one game (that was already running on the PC during development, anyway) and all of a sudden the entire system is doomed?!?

I don't think anyone said the system was doomed. If they did, they're silly. But obviously exclusives are a big deal, especially if that was one of the main problems the Xbox had last generation.

Besides, everyone knows PC people don't actually BUY software and only steal it, so the sales numbers aren't in waiting for <100k PC owners to buy a game at a much lower profit margin, versus 3x as many console owners buying at a higher price point.

What the fuck? And we're simple? :| *scratches head*

GrinR

01-23-2006, 08:11 PM

I'm still with Crazyd. Burnout 3 has a couple Xbox-exclusive features, but that doesn't make it an Xbox-exclusive game.

With all due respect, this can only be said by someone who hasn't played online.

:-D

mister_slim

01-23-2006, 09:25 PM

For example, I really wouldn't be shocked to see Square finally doing multi-console versions of the FF games.
I wonder. Square seem like the type to focus on squeezing as much as possible out of one system rather than going for LCD ports (I'm ignoring FFXI :p ). It seems more likely that they'll pick one platform as a primary (probably the PS3) and make a couple of games for the other systems. That's certainly what I'd prefer they do.

Kefkataran

01-23-2006, 10:07 PM

I wonder. Square seem like the type to focus on squeezing as much as possible out of one system rather than going for LCD ports (I'm ignoring FFXI ). It seems more likely that they'll pick one platform as a primary (probably the PS3) and make a couple of games for the other systems. That's certainly what I'd prefer they do.

I could see either happening for sure. Either way, the 360 will probably end up with some Square games besides FFXI. Hell, if they choose the way you'd prefer, 360 may even have some exclusives from them!

KamaItachi

01-23-2006, 10:20 PM

I could see either happening for sure. Either way, the 360 will probably end up with some Square games besides FFXI. Hell, if they choose the way you'd prefer, 360 may even have some exclusives from them!

If SE keep up with their plan to buy more dev houses, I can certainly see them branching out and giving other platforms more love. Wasn't there a disturbing quote a while back that Squeenix wanted to be the EA of the Japanese Market?

dotbomb

01-23-2006, 10:46 PM

I don't think anyone said the system was doomed. If they did, they're silly. But obviously exclusives are a big deal, especially if that was one of the main problems the Xbox had last generation.

Correct. System isn't doomed but it is a potential problem. One that makes me realize the proper consumer behavior (for myself) will be to wait until after the release of a new game settles a bit to see which platform I purchase it for.

Case in point. Oblivion. Now I know it was never exclusive but I need to decide if I buy the PC version or the 360 version. A lot is going to come down to price as well as reported bugs/differences after the title launches.

Same thing now for Condemned. A title I demo'd a bit of and enjoyed on the 360. Being a fan of FEAR and Monolith/Sega I was tempted to add it to my list of purchases. Now it is no longer being considered until I see what the PC version does.

This hurts MS, bottom line. Does it doom them? Of course not.

Another example: racing games are a big issue for me as I have a nice new momo wheel for my PC. If I purchase Full Auto on Feb 14th will I be pissed in March when they announce a PC version? You bet I will. So as a result a title I was probably going to buy on or about the 14th is now getting delayed.

Kefkataran

01-23-2006, 10:53 PM

Wasn't there a disturbing quote a while back that Squeenix wanted to be the EA of the Japanese Market?

Didn't hear that one, but that is pretty disturbing. And considering Square's turn towards more and more mediocre games in recent years...

Frogleg Special

01-23-2006, 11:05 PM

Hurts MS? PC is Windows gaming. It's Microsoft's own too and will be much apparent when Microsoft wants to sell Windows Vista. If a gun pointed to MS's big head and asked if it's going to kill either Windows or Xbox - it will kill Xbox.

This is not a first party game and Xbox 360 is the only console to play Condemned. More than 5 people out of 10 would play in the more affordable, user-friendly console. So the majority, whether they have bought the game or not, would choose to play in a console for a game designed for a console.

Kefkataran

01-23-2006, 11:47 PM

Hurts MS? PC is Windows gaming. It's Microsoft's own too and will be much apparent when Microsoft wants to sell Windows Vista. If a gun pointed to MS's big head and asked if it's going to kill either Windows or Xbox - it will kill Xbox.

That's sort of a point, although I'd argue that the difference between what they're getting out of someone purchasing a game that they'll probably use on a Windows operating system versus what they're getting out of someone purchasing a game they HAVE to use on their $500 console is pretty big and important.

More than 5 people out of 10 would play in the more affordable, user-friendly console. So the majority, whether they have bought the game or not, would choose to play in a console for a game designed for a console.

You're probably somewhat near right, but that doesn't change the fact that you just made those stats up out of nowhere. :)

Frogleg Special

01-24-2006, 01:31 AM

Kef, majority is more than 50% right? ;)

thecrazyd

01-24-2006, 05:29 AM

So the majority, whether they have bought the game or not, would choose to play in a console for a game designed for a console.
Except it was originaly announced as being PC / 360, so it was desinged with PC in mind as well, and by a company that is best known for making PC games.

H.Bogard

01-24-2006, 12:03 PM

Except it was originaly announced as being PC / 360, so it was desinged with PC in mind as well, and by a company that is best known for making PC games.

Good point....although i dont know where everyone got the information that it was developed simeltaneously for the PC....links anyone?