Sony's First-Party PS3 Titles Confirmed

[fitbabits]

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The first batch of first-party PlayStation 3 titles has been confirmed by a listing on Sony's Japanese website, PlayStation.jp, with six titles being named for the next-generation system including new Everybody's Golf and Gran Turismo games.

The six titles are Genji 2 (Action), Angel Rings (RPG), Monster Carnival (Action RPG), Everybody's Golf 5 (Sport), Gran Turismo Series (Racing) and The Eye of Judgement (genre TBA).
Now all we need is some proper in-game footage...

[Heretic Machine]

Pretty strong first-party line-up, considering how dependant Sony normally is on third-party developers.

[Suicidal ShiZuru]

So Im assuming that these are, so far, "JP onry".

[Vandenh]

BTW these are not launch games (they could be)... just games that they are working on.

[Yeti2005]

I really hope we get to see someone actually playing a PS3 in Feb at the Playstation Developers conference.

I would also expect Splinter Cell: Double Agent, Fight Night Round 3, and a few other cross platform titles to be included in the PS3 launch (especially since they'll already be out for other systems by launch).

[fitbabits]

BTW these are not launch games (they could be)... just games that they are working on.
Correct, but this is the first official news and not the ramblings of some numpty who has nothing better to do than scour message boards looking for anti-Sony stuff to shoot down. :rolleyes:

[kokyunage]

I really doubt it would ship with Gran Turismo. That would be too smart. That would ensure in the first 3 months Sony outsells Microsoft in their first 3 months by wild proportions.

[MaiXu]

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Now all we need is some proper in-game footage...

Sequel to Genji? Hmm ... that one looked like fun, but it was just too short for me to pay full price. Perhaps I'll pick it up when it drops?

All in all, a good-looking lineup. While doubtful all those titles will be there on Day 1, even if they come out within a year of launch, it'll provide a steady stream of original content for a while.

[Immaculate Simian]

So Im assuming that these are, so far, "JP onry".
I'm hoping "... onry" was just a typo, and not some racist jab against people of Japan. :(

[fitbabits]

I'm hoping "... onry" was just a typo, and not some racist jab against people of Japan. :(
Likewise...

[PIPBoy3000]

The r and l keys are pretty far apart . . .

[AspectVoid]

The first Genji was a great game, its only problem being that it was too short. If the sequel is longer, then it would be a definate pickup at launch for my tastes.

[Morratut]

If Sony did release the PS3 with Gran Turismo that would be a awesome.

Sony should launch the PS3 with...

GTA 4.
Devil May Cry 4.
RE 5.
KillZone 2.

I would buy one if they had that line up :D

[Deadend]

he Eye of Judgement (genre TBA).

How do you make a game and not know what genre it is? Or is it just a cool logo right now? I mean... WTF? My classmates also wonder

[fitbabits]

The r and l keys are pretty far apart . . .
And on different hands if you touch-type... The r would be the pointing finger on your left hand while the l would be the pinky on your right hand.

[fitbabits]

How do you make a game and not know what genre it is? Or is it just a cool logo right now? I mean... WTF? My classmates also wonder
You're Sony! You can do whatever the hell you please and not feel the need to explain it to anyone. It's a fucking poxy name as well!

[Wyrm]

I was under the impression that RE5 was a 360 exclusive.

This isnt really all that exciting to be honest with you. Sony usually does pretty well with a few unique launch titles, but I'm not too excited about anything that's been announced here yet.

They need some serious name dropping to get me excited. I'm leaning toward a 360 when the price drops and a few more games come out. But, I'm sure I'll end up with all three consoles again, just like I did this generation when they were all cheap enough...

[antoniogaud]

I don't see what the fuss is all about regarding Gran Turismo. I have played every GT game ever made and it pales in comparison to Gotham 3. Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't played Gotham 3 on the 360. What COULD GT bring to the equation that would be SUBSTANTIALLY better than Gotham 3?

[fitbabits]

I don't see what the fuss is all about regarding Gran Turismo. I have played every GT game ever made and it pales in comparison to Gotham 3. Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't played Gotham 3 on the 360. What COULD GT bring to the equation that would be SUBSTANTIALLY better than Gotham 3?
I agree. I've played the GT games as well and they've just not done it for me. Give me Forza over any of the Gran Turismo games.

In answer to your question - it remains to be seen, but the significant GT fanbase will ensure it sells well even if it's nothing more than a tarted up version of GT4.

[thecrazyd]

How do you make a game and not know what genre it is? Or is it just a cool logo right now? I mean... WTF? My classmates also wonder
TBA means To Be Announced. Just because they have not announced it, does not mean it is TBD, or To Be Determined.
I was under the impression that RE5 was a 360 exclusive.
Nope. PS3 as well.

[51|RandoM]

I don't see what the fuss is all about regarding Gran Turismo. I have played every GT game ever made and it pales in comparison to Gotham 3. Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't played Gotham 3 on the 360. What COULD GT bring to the equation that would be SUBSTANTIALLY better than Gotham 3?

Guess what? It doesn't have to be substantially better than Gotham 3.

You know why? You can't play PGR3 on a Sony console. Furthermore, you're comparing the next gen version of GR to whatever the last version of GT you've seen.

I expect the ps3 to sell out day one already, but package it with a title like GT and it could get ugly. Doesn't have to be GT either, there are plenty of other franchises with massive followings.

These are franchises that existed before the xbox was a gleam in bill's eye. They've been building their fanbase for years. Those fans buy the console that the game comes out on, end of story.

[JediSanf]

I don't see what the fuss is all about regarding Gran Turismo. I have played every GT game ever made and it pales in comparison to Gotham 3. Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't played Gotham 3 on the 360. What COULD GT bring to the equation that would be SUBSTANTIALLY better than Gotham 3?

I to have played every GT game as well as Gotham 3 and I'd be happy to tell you that I find the technical aspects of GT4 superior to PGR3. PGR3 still feels to "arcade-ish" in control and handling and while the kudos system is fun it does not promote proper racing technique. Coupled with a lack of a well defined driving school where I can figure out what I'm doing wrong and there are several areas that need improvement just to be up to where GT is today. However, I still think PGR vs. GT is apples to oranges as the real comparison will need to be Forza vs. GT.

[absolut taco]

I don't see what the fuss is all about regarding Gran Turismo. I have played every GT game ever made and it pales in comparison to Gotham 3. Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't played Gotham 3 on the 360. What COULD GT bring to the equation that would be SUBSTANTIALLY better than Gotham 3?
Why compare apples and oranges? GT = serious simulation. Gotham = semi-arcady. While I own & love PGR3 I could come up with a laundry list of possible improvements. When Forza 2 and GT5 are both out, THEN we can start comparing racing games.
Don't tell anyone, but if GT5 is great, I might get me a PS3...

[fitbabits]

Why compare apples and oranges? GT = serious simulation. Gotham = semi-arcady. While I own & love PGR3 I could come up with a laundry list of possible improvements. When Forza 2 and GT5 are both out, THEN we can start comparing racing games.
Or we could compare Forza to GT4 - both current gen racing games:

GameRankings - Forza Motorsport (Xbox) - 93% (82 Media Outlets) (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/920720.asp)

GameRankings - Gran Turismo 4 (PS2) - 88% (84 Media Outlets) (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/561066.asp?q=gran%20turismo%204)

[absolut taco]

Or we could compare Forza to GT4 - both current gen racing games:

GameRankings - Forza Motorsport (Xbox) - 93% (82 Media Outlets) (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/920720.asp)

GameRankings - Gran Turismo 4 (PS2) - 88% (84 Media Outlets) (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/561066.asp?q=gran%20turismo%204)
Sony better include online play in GT5...

[fitbabits]

Sony better include online play in GT5...
They most likely will, but whether or not it will be well implemented is up for grabs.

[Magnanimous Gnome]

RE5 will almost certainly be coming to Revolution as well. Capcom never said it would be exclusive to the 360.

These titles are all pretty obvious, with the exception of that Eye of Judgement game, whatever it is.

Everybody Loves Golf = Hot Shots, right?

[Reanimated]

Looks about like what I expected - a pile of shovelware. And a GT game as a launch title is a laughable notion.

[fitbabits]

Everybody Loves Golf = Hot Shots, right?
Correct, sir.

[Kamalot]

Where's the announcement that the PS3 will have an internal hard drive and a unified online gaming service?

[fitbabits]

Where's the announcement that the PS3 will have an internal hard drive and a unified online gaming service?
Possibly lost in translation? Or not even there because Sony themselves don't even know yet.

[Mason]

And on different hands if you touch-type... The r would be the pointing finger on your left hand while the l would be the pinky on your right hand.
Umm, ring finger on your right hand is L. "Home row" starts with H, but home row doesn't.

[fitbabits]

Umm, ring finger on your right hand is L. "Home row" starts with H, but home row doesn't.
Correct! Are you related to Mavis Beacon?

[Reanimated]

Where's the announcement that the PS3 will have an internal hard drive and a unified online gaming service?





Online service? lol

[Achilles]

RE5 will almost certainly be coming to Revolution as well. Capcom never said it would be exclusive to the 360.Actually Capcom has announced that it's coming to both the PS3 and 360. They haven't announced that it would be coming to revolution, though they have announced that the Killer 7 team would be making a game for Revolution. I doubt the Revolution will be getting RE5, they would have announced it. It may be getting a spin-off game, but they haven't said anything about it yet.

[Mason]

Correct! Are you related to Mavis Beacon?
My outstanding WPM and accuracy doesn't rule that out as a possibility, heh heh.

[fitbabits]

My outstanding WPM and accuracy doesn't rule that out as a possibility, heh heh.
Heh! My wife bought me Mavis Beacon 6 (I think) for Christmas one year! Talk about flogging a dead horse - Mavis is almost as bad as Madden for yearly updates and you never hear anyone complaining about that. :)

[Evil_SPanKY]

Now all we need is some proper in-game footage...

LOL, dont hold your breath. You may just turn purple and pass out before this happens.

[Zanzibar]

Now all we need is some proper in-game footage...

You won't see anything until E3 earliest. Right now there's a collective gasp among PS3 devs who have their 'final' kits - they're not seeing anywhere near the performance they were promised, so they are scrambling to figure out where the bottlenecks are and work around them. And Sony is smart - they are gonna make damned sure that no footage gets released until it runs at a smooth framerate with impressive graphics. (Or they prerender it again, which would be suicidal.)

Balth posted in another thread that they aren't manufacturing the RSX chip yet, but I haven't heard that. It would make a BOATLOAD of sense if it were true - the 'final' kits that the devs got had the Cell processor and virtually all of the hardware, but only temporary GPUs until the RSX arrives, for an easy swap into the dev kits.

[Wyrm]

I thought they already said no unified online support.

[Achilles]

You won't see anything until E3 earliest. Right now there's a collective gasp among PS3 devs who have their 'final' kits - they're not seeing anywhere near the performance they were promised, so they are scrambling to figure out where the bottlenecks are and work around them.Whoa, hadn't heard that yet. Now is it just because of the massive bottlenecks that MS pointed out shortly after E3, or are the chips and whatnot actually running slower than they had said they would?

[Zanzibar]

Whoa, hadn't heard that yet. Now is it just because of the massive bottlenecks that MS pointed out shortly after E3, or are the chips and whatnot actually running slower than they had said they would?

They're under NDAs, so I couldn't get detailed info, but I had heard that the new dev kits just weren't supplying the speed that the devs were expecting. It's possible that the GPUs are NOT final, which would explain it, and would make for an easy transition once the final RSX GPUs arrive. I'm sure that even if it IS final, it's just a matter of tweaking how the pipelines are used to get the best performance. Sony systems have always had a steep learning curve for the new hardware, but I'm sure the developers will find ways to make the system fire-breathing, as promised. That's why they make the big bucks. ;)

While it's possible the chips are just flat-out slower than expected, it's more likely that the chips want data in form X for optimum processing speed, but the data is currently in form Y. As the devs figure out those kinds of 'gotchas' and work around them (converting the data to X, for example) then the speeds will increase.

I remember going to an Xbox conference in summer 2001 before it was released, and the Microsoft guys were FURIOUS at nVidia because the final chip didn't deliver the 'free' hardware full-screen anti-aliasing that was promised. In the end, though, take note that few (if any) Xbox games were substantially inconvenienced by the lack of FSAA. My guess is that if something similar happens to the PS3, it won't be anything earth-shattering in terms of how far off the initial projections asked for. Fear not, Sony fans, the PS3 will live up to its billing.

[Hagetaka]

Forget about all those fanboys rants, and all of the hype, I genuinely hope sony comes out with a solid machine. Them doing well will mean that everyone will have to try harder to produce better games and such. But a good line-up or not, its going to be the pricepoint that sells me.

/still waiting for price drop from MS.

[Magnanimous Gnome]

Actually Capcom has announced that it's coming to both the PS3 and 360. They haven't announced that it would be coming to revolution, though they have announced that the Killer 7 team would be making a game for Revolution. I doubt the Revolution will be getting RE5, they would have announced it. It may be getting a spin-off game, but they haven't said anything about it yet.

I still think it will hit the Rev as well. No one has actually announced specific Rev titles except Nintendo. Just because it hasn't been announced yet doesn't mean it's coming. Shinji Mekami (sp? I totally butchered that) loves Nintendo, so I'm sure he'll do his best to see that RE5 hits the Rev as well. We'll just have to wait and see. I personally hope that it does so that I can play the game - I'm going to be limiting myself to one console this time around. I just don't have the time or the money to own them all anymore.

[Lexicon]

I still think it will hit the Rev as well. No one has actually announced specific Rev titles except Nintendo. Just because it hasn't been announced yet doesn't mean it's coming. Shinji Mekami (sp? I totally butchered that) loves Nintendo, so I'm sure he'll do his best to see that RE5 hits the Rev as well. We'll just have to wait and see. I personally hope that it does so that I can play the game - I'm going to be limiting myself to one console this time around. I just don't have the time or the money to own them all anymore.

Shinji Mikami isn't working on RE5, its being handled by Jun Takeuchi. Mikami was shifted over to Clover Studio.

[Stryfe01]

that's an alright line up to me. i'd probably only pick up two games. im more interested in Factor 5's new game called Lair. they talk about it in the latest OPM. funny though, I remember Microsoft (and Factor 5) making a big much ado about nothing on them supporting Xbox.

[Achilles]

They're under NDAs, so I couldn't get detailed info, but I had heard that the new dev kits just weren't supplying the speed that the devs were expecting...

While it's possible the chips are just flat-out slower than expected, it's more likely that the chips want data in form X for optimum processing speed, but the data is currently in form Y. As the devs figure out those kinds of 'gotchas' and work around them (converting the data to X, for example) then the speeds will increase.That was the case at first glance with the 360 final hardware as well, and for that reason. Once the devs got their heads around it they were able to make their stuff better than it had been before. For the 360 it didn't take very long (a month or two), but it was a shock at first.

All the PS3 dev kits had Cell processors in them though, so they should have been used to doing the multi threaded stuff already.

[Kamalot]

that's an alright line up to me. i'd probably only pick up two games. im more interested in Factor 5's new game called Lair. they talk about it in the latest OPM. funny though, I remember Microsoft (and Factor 5) making a big much ado about nothing on them supporting Xbox.Factor 5 likes a challenge. They liked making the GameCube do all kinds of things that people in the industry kept claiming were "impossible" like bump-mapping. I bet Factor 5 took a look at the Xbox and realized they could harness a good 80% or so of the power straight from the dev kits. The PS3 is another story alltogether. Imagine what they'll be able to do with the complexity.

While I htink Factor 5 is a great technology house, their games haven't been all that great unless you REALLY like Star Wars (and Hoth). In my book, they are a lot like the recent games from Rare, heavy on the graphics side but not too much to write home about with the gameplay.

[Stryfe01]

Maybe your right about Factor 5, but I do think that people are underestimating the power of the 360. No question that over time we may see some difference in quality between the two systems, but
i'm of the mindset that it will not be too much. Yes I read all the articles on tech specs, but you just never know. Plus the fact that IBM developed all three, makes me wonder how much of a difference there really could be in terms of in game performance.

[mister_slim]

A little empty in the newsbarrel, huh?

Anyway, I was wondering, are there any 360 titles coming out in January?

[novicius]

Yeah, PGR has a ways to go before it can be compared to GT. :p

There is something to be said for simple pleasures, however, such as doing a power-on oversteer doughnut. Can't do that in Gran Turismo 4. So here's to hoping that it becomes realistic enough to include that. :rolleyes:

Still, I want to play Vision Gran Turismo, Killzone 2, and my wife wants to play some JDM platformers. So a PS3 it will be. :cool:

[absolut taco]

There is something to be said for simple pleasures, however, such as doing a power-on oversteer doughnut. Can't do that in Gran Turismo 4. So here's to hoping that it becomes realistic enough to include that. :rolleyes:
Here's to hoping the PS3 comes with long-travel analog triggers a la Xbox and not analog buttons.

[Kamalot]

Here's to hoping the PS3 comes with long-travel analog triggers a la Xbox and not analog buttons.
Real triggers would be very nice. I am willing to bet my shorts that Sony won't see the need for real analog triggers and instead will keep with the buttons.

Without triggers, how can anyone enjoy racing?