Battlefield 2 Xbox 360 Shots

[Evil Avatar]

Xbox365.com has posted some new screenshots (http://www.xbox365.com/news.cgi?id=GGPiGdPLGL01121411) from the upcoming Xbox 360 port of Battlefield 2: Modern Combat.

http://www.evilavatar.com/images/thumbs/Battlefield_2_360.jpg (http://www.xbox365.com/news.cgi?id=GGPiGdPLGL01121411)

[mightbe]

I'm all for the console shooter and whatnot but I have trouble imagining BF2 without mouse+kb. I wonder if it will support mouse+kb on the box.

And can we let the console players play with the big boys and girls on the PC servers, please?

[TechSuck]

I believe the correct word is bullshot.

[mpsmith]

Until KB+M console players will never play online with PC players because we all know that console kids hate to lose. And they would definitely lose.

[trip1eX]

Well if the 360 version turns out decent they may sell another 360.

But I'm not holding my breath. 24 player limit. No dedicated servers. Awkward controller. Dumbed down features. That's what I'm expecting.

The screenshots shots look pretty, but I'll believe them when I see 'em.

[AversionFX]

I believe the correct word is bullshot.

that's what i'm thinking. a link of BF2 shots have already been posted here, with the exact same images as this one.

[BleedTheFreak]

that's what i'm thinking. a link of BF2 shots have already been posted here, with the exact same images as this one.

Um, what is it you think Bullshot means again?

[BleedTheFreak]

I believe the correct word is bullshot.

I was actually thinking these didn't even look that good, and then I saw this quote and was pretty surprised. I don't believe these are doctored up to look better than they are in action.

[Captain Awesome]

Again, I'm not into the BF series. But these are nice...


:0

[GrinR]

Looking better...

Gamepad vs. KB&M = *yawn*

[Heretic Machine]

I love elitist PC gamers. They make me giggle.

[Verocity]

I'm all for the console shooter and whatnot but I have trouble imagining BF2 without mouse+kb. I wonder if it will support mouse+kb on the box.

And can we let the console players play with the big boys and girls on the PC servers, please?

Oh Noes! Not another KB+Mouse vs Gamepad bashing!

*looks over shoulder*

While I prefer the KB+M, I would *love* to see a server that combined XBOX players with PC players. Then, we could put this dead horse to rest once and for all.

[rainbowblack]

I played the PS2 online demo, i enjoyed it. if GRAW were'nt around the corner i'd likely give this a shot

[Offworlder]

Despite it's warts, I'm very fond of Battlefield 2. However, I've found it difficult to develop and nurture a good group of people to consistently play with, even by frequenting the same servers. Which is unfortunate, because BF2 really truely shines when you're running with a tight knit squad.

Combined with Xbox Live, Modern Combat could really be something special if it manages to maintain the PC version's gameplay depth.

[Suicidal ShiZuru]

Normally I wouldnt bother but kb/m~pc wins here. This is one of those games that just WILL NOT translate well onto a console, I dont care how pretty it may look in the end. Anyone who argues against that obviously hasnt played much BF2. Also the player limit would make the game rather boring. Nothing like playing on a full server.

[AversionFX]

Um, what is it you think Bullshot means again?

Bullshit screenshot.

Refer to THIS COMIC (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/09/12)

[Venkman]

I'm all for the console shooter and whatnot but I have trouble imagining BF2 without mouse+kb. I wonder if it will support mouse+kb on the box.

And can we let the console players play with the big boys and girls on the PC servers, please?

I'd rather not have the PC people and their cheat software invade my Xbox experience.

[fndarkone]

isnt this a different game from bf2 on pc and bf2:mc?

[mister_slim]

EA should just make their own console. They could call it the Madden Player or something (and the MPP...). Then they wouldn't have to ejaculate ports all over every platform.

[Schnoogs]

I love elitist PC gamers. They make me giggle.

They almost make me laugh as much as technologically ignorant console gamers. ;)

[Kagger]

isnt this a different game from bf2 on pc and bf2:mc?

I'm under the same impression. It is not really BF2 on PC. I don't think there were any helicopters in the ps2 modern combat, at least thats what I thought I so in an EGM

[mightbe]

Oh Noes! Not another KB+Mouse vs Gamepad bashing!

*looks over shoulder*

While I prefer the KB+M, I would *love* to see a server that combined XBOX players with PC players. Then, we could put this dead horse to rest once and for all.

I wasn't bashing, honest. I was just hoping that we would get to play together. Hand in hand. Wireless gamepad in mouse... err something.

edit: The "big boys and girls" comment was more in reference to the computer shooter genera being a fair bit older than console FPS's.

[mightbe]

I'd rather not have the PC people and their cheat software invade my Xbox experience.

If ya don't think people cheat in console online games, you're sorely mistaken.

[mightbe]

They almost make me laugh as much as technologically ignorant console gamers. ;)

GET OUT OF MY CORNER! AAAARGH!

[mightbe]

I love elitist PC gamers. They make me giggle.

Just because UK's basketball team is weak this year doesn't mean I'm elitist. I love my PC and Console games equally.

[trip1eX]

If the better game happens to be on the pc does that mean one is a pc elitist? ;)

[WastelandDan]

I was a huge fan of the original Battlefield and never got around to getting BF2, but I'm also skeptical about how this will work without a keyboard and mouse. I'm more a fan of the controller then I used to be but you just get so many more options when you have a kb/m. Still, I am interested in how this will turn out.

[Hellstorm]

Bitch, bitch, bitch. Mark Rein already stated the 360 controller is perfection for FPS games on a console and I think he would know about controlling an FPS on a console more than anyone here. Mark really seems unbaised. ;)

[Bushido]

My friend asked me if he should buy BF2 for the PS2 and then I asked him if he was prepared to buy the Hard Drive and Modem and likely the keyboard and mouse to go with it. He decided to spend the money and upgrade his computer grafix card.

[Magnanimous Gnome]

EA should just make their own console. They could call it the Madden Player or something (and the MPP...). Then they wouldn't have to ejaculate ports all over every platform.


I really doubt that EA will ever attempt to make their own console after Trip Hawkins and the 3DO incident (insert little TM here.)

[Vandenh]

I swear that if anybody mentions mouse vs gamepad again I will personally come over and shove your mouse up your *ss!!!

Almost everybody here is a PC AND console gamer so quit the whining like a 12 year old!!! Consoles are supposed to be played from the couch... if you want to put your 360 on a desk and connect it to your monitor and keyboard get a f*cking PC!!!! I do NOT want any mouse/keyboard junk in my living room and I don't care if a mouse is more accurate.

Free ban for everybody who starts this discussion again.... bunch of teenagers.

[Maskatron]

24 player limit. No dedicated servers. Awkward controller. Dumbed down features.

Pass, pass, pass, and PASS.

[AversionFX]

I swear that if anybody mentions mouse vs gamepad again I will personally come over and shove your mouse up your *ss!!!

Almost everybody here is a PC AND console gamer so quit the whining like a 12 year old!!! Consoles are supposed to be played from the couch... if you want to put your 360 on a desk and connect it to your monitor and keyboard get a f*cking PC!!!! I do NOT want any mouse/keyboard junk in my living room and I don't care if a mouse is more accurate.

Free ban for everybody who starts this discussion again.... bunch of teenagers.


OHNOES, banned for having an opinion!

[mister_slim]

I really doubt that EA will ever attempt to make their own console after Trip Hawkins and the 3DO incident (insert little TM here.)
But it would make everything so neat and tidy. I'd be able to tune EA out, just ignore all their different WWII games and SKUs, and I'd never see one of their shoddy DS games again.

And we could call it the EA ghetto.

[Morratut]

Also the player limit would make the game rather boring. Nothing like playing on a full server.

I know what you mean if you have a big map and only 16 players. However BF2 on PC doesn't shine when its full either. The bullet lag is disgusting. BF2 on PC broken. End of story.

I'll probably pick this up to be honest. I may end up having more fun with the console version of this game.

I seem to have better games with friends on console over Live = more fun.
I won't have to navigate a crappy browser for a server.
Hopefully on the console version when I get someone in my crosshairs and press the trigger he won't survive my headshot :rolleyes:

Hopefully EA can deliver with this title :)

[Evil Avatar]

Normally I wouldnt bother but kb/m~pc wins here. This is one of those games that just WILL NOT translate well onto a console, I dont care how pretty it may look in the end. Anyone who argues against that obviously hasnt played much BF2. Also the player limit would make the game rather boring. Nothing like playing on a full server.

Will Not translate well onto a console? It is already available on the Xbox and Playstation 2. I've got the Xbox version and it plays and runs great. The graphics were obviously significantly dumbed down for the console so that it could run on the Playstation 2 (Which sucks for Xbox owners.), but other than that the game looks pretty decent and is a blast to play.

[Vandenh]

>OHNOES, banned for having an opinion!

Banned for flogging a dead horse. This discussion started in 1990s... so STFU about it.

[Evil Avatar]

You guys are still having the keyboard and mouse vs. controller discussion? Haven't you heard of a little game called Halo 2? This is kind of a dead discussion, FPS games work just fine on a console controller. They also work just fine on a keyboard and mouse.

I tend to prefer the console controller for games that have vehicles, since I end up hooking up a joystick to my PC to fly/drive the vehicles anyway.

[Morratut]

This is one of those games that just WILL NOT translate well onto a console, I dont care how pretty it may look in the end.

This will translate great on a console, especially the 360 with the extra horsepower. The vehicle controls will map fantastically on the excellent 360 pad. The FPS controls will also be great on the 360 pad too.

I like FPS on PC and console.

C'mon guys lets not bring up this kb/m vs pad argument again, its boring. Aren't we better than this?

[Dr Quincy]

isnt this a different game from bf2 on pc

Yes!

and bf2:mc?

No...

[Paranoia]

The Keyboard+Mouse vs. Controller issue? Talk about a dead horse raised from the dead then get beaten again.

I'll settle for console version than the patch ridden, unoptimized engine, slow as hell menu screen, crash prone software, high-end requirements PC version!

[Sl1pstream]

No dedicated servers. Awkward controller.

Xbox version had dedicated servers with little to no lag. Controls worked pretty well. Can't see how this would change for the 360 version.

[MrMeatshake]

I'm all for the console shooter and whatnot but I have trouble imagining BF2 without mouse+kb. I wonder if it will support mouse+kb on the box.

oh, no!

And can we let the console players play with the big boys and girls on the PC servers, please?

oh, god no!

[RainOfTerror]

same screenshots that were already posted/linked here last week

http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8762

[AversionFX]

>OHNOES, banned for having an opinion!

Banned for flogging a dead horse. This discussion started in 1990s... so STFU about it.

Why don't you just quit bitching? I mean, that just seems logical, cause you're the only one getting rowdy about it. Thanks.

[Achilles]

I wonder if the maps and gameplay will be that from the other Modern Combat games or that from the PC game. The gameplay on the console BF2 games rocked but the games were ugly, a pretty version of that I’d be down with.

[phantomhitman]

game looks good, hopefully it will translate well. I hope it has a kb+m option but if not I will still play it for hours. Nothing to bitch about, just another game.

[Morratut]

Why don't you just quit bitching? I mean, that just seems logical, cause you're the only one getting rowdy about it. Thanks.

I agree with Vandenh too. So I guess i'm getting rowdy.

Vandenh is right the argument is old. Get with the 21st century.

Both control schemes are good for FPS.

[Sl1pstream]

Why would this be any different than every other console FPS out there? Where is everyone getting the idea that this should, for whatever reason, support keyboard and mouse?
If you want those things, stick with pc gaming or get a Phantom.

[thecrazyd]

Both control schemes are good for FPS.
How come it is cool for you to state that, but it is not cool to disagree?

[51|RandoM]

I know what you mean if you have a big map and only 16 players. However BF2 on PC doesn't shine when its full either. The bullet lag is disgusting.

WTF are you talking about? I play on full, max size servers in bf2 pretty much every day of the week.

I've never seen this magic bullet lag you're talking about. OTH, I have a modern computer, and I play on good servers. Do yourself a favor, put 1.5 or more gigs of ram in your pc, then lower the settings to something your cpu and vidcard can handle at 40-60fps, then pick a good server.

I don't know why people even are comparing this to bf2 on pc. BF2 and BF2: MC are completely different games.

Even if they were the same game, mixing up the accuracy of mouse and keyboard FPS with the auto-aim cheese of the console FPS would be a bad joke... on the console players.

I see vandenh rolling out his tired couch argument again. Oh, wait, this time he's modified it to be a matter of personal opinion that he doesn't want a keyboard or mouse in his living room. That would seem to be a personal issue, not a problem specific to PC FPS gaming, lol.

[Venkman]

If ya don't think people cheat in console online games, you're sorely mistaken.

I don't think that (in fact I have seen Halo 2 hacks on LIVE), but without a centralized system nobody gets banned.

Cheating on the Xbox is WAY less common than on the PC.

[phantomhitman]

Even if they were the same game, mixing up the accuracy of mouse and keyboard FPS with the auto-aim cheese of the console FPS would be a bad joke... on the console players.


I assume you are talking about single player offline right? I am not a console fanboy, in fact I would much rather have a mouse and keyboard, but to get skilled with a controller is much harder than with a m+kb. I have never played, or seen, an online console shooter that has auto aim. Just want to see where you are coming from.

[Vandenh]

"I've never seen this magic bullet lag you're talking about. OTH, I have a modern computer, and I play on good servers. Do yourself a favor, put 1.5 or more gigs of ram in your pc, then lower the settings to something your cpu and vidcard can handle at 40-60fps, then pick a good server."

Haaaa.. yess... the "I have better equipment and/or money so you suck" argument. Nice one... haven't seen that one before.

Why is it that people always feel the need to attack console FPS games? I enjoy FPS games on my PC and console, I must be some kind of freak. Usually they are even slightly different games (as BF will be of course), so well worth playing them on both platforms.

[Morratut]

WTF are you talking about? I play on full, max size servers in bf2 pretty much every day of the week.

I've never seen this magic bullet lag you're talking about. OTH, I have a modern computer, and I play on good servers. Do yourself a favor, put 1.5 or more gigs of ram in your pc, then lower the settings to something your cpu and vidcard can handle at 40-60fps, then pick a good server.

I don't know why people even are comparing this to bf2 on pc. BF2 and BF2: MC are completely different games.

Even if they were the same game, mixing up the accuracy of mouse and keyboard FPS with the auto-aim cheese of the console FPS would be a bad joke... on the console players.

I see vandenh rolling out his tired couch argument again. Oh, wait, this time he's modified it to be a matter of personal opinion that he doesn't want a keyboard or mouse in his living room. That would seem to be a personal issue, not a problem specific to PC FPS gaming, lol.

:D do you PC owners use some sort of template for a response to people who play console FPS too? Your response was PCElitisterric!

In my experience BF2 with lots of players on PC you start getting bullet lag. It's not just my PC either. A lot of people I know have experienced the same thing. I haven't played BF2 in a long while on PC now.

Thecrazyd i'm not trying to be cool about anything. It was a certain forum members attitude which I didn't like whilst trying to flog a dead argument.

Anyways yer i'm looking forward to this game.

[51|RandoM]

Dude, what are you saying? I'm not attacking the pc guy with bullet lag, I'm saying I've never seen such a thing with my equipment. He isn't even talking about large servers, he is talking about small servers that are full.

he is also presenting it as the 'usual' when it is far from it.

I suppose we're suppose to believe that all of those full servers out there, servers that are constantly full during primetime, are filled with people experienceing this mysterious bullet lag? You might believe that BS, but I don't. :-)

What you need to do to tweak BF2 for good performance is already documented in multiple places. Anybody who can't do so obviously has a hardware limitation, or an inability to use google.



Haaaa.. yess... the "I have better equipment and/or money so you suck" argument. Nice one... haven't seen that one before.

Why is it that people always feel the need to attack console FPS games? I enjoy FPS games on my PC and console, I must be some kind of freak. Usually they are even slightly different games (as BF will be of course), so well worth playing them on both platforms.

[51|RandoM]

I assume you are talking about single player offline right? I am not a console fanboy, in fact I would much rather have a mouse and keyboard, but to get skilled with a controller is much harder than with a m+kb. I have never played, or seen, an online console shooter that has auto aim. Just want to see where you are coming from.

I guess you've never seen or played either Halo or Halo2 then...

[AversionFX]

:D do you PC owners use some sort of template for a response to people who play console FPS too? Your response was PCElitisterric!

In my experience BF2 with lots of players on PC you start getting bullet lag. It's not just my PC either. A lot of people I know have experienced the same thing. I haven't played BF2 in a long while on PC now.

Thecrazyd i'm not trying to be cool about anything. It was a certain forum members attitude which I didn't like whilst trying to flog a dead argument.

Anyways yer i'm looking forward to this game.

Almost the same template you idiot console fanboys use.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I play huge servers rather frequently, and have never once encountered "bullet lag." You might be mixing this up with "can't aim." They are not the same thing, I will inform you.

Apparently it's acceptable to say "kb+mouse and controller are equally good!" but saying "I prefer kb+m over controller" is somehow flogging a dead horse? Talk about bigotry. I've played enough console shooters to have a pretty firm belief that kb+mouse is much more precise on the aiming.

[51|RandoM]

I haven't played BF2 in a long while on PC now.



Then perhaps you should stop presenting your experiences with that version of the game as the common experience of everybody playing the current version?

maybe? lol.

There is no mysterious bullet lag on a good server that doesn't directly point towards either your connection, or your computer. I'm talking a good server, that isn't underspecced in horsepower, ram, or bandwidth, obviously. In the early days of the game, people were lowballing servers, especially the maxsize servers, and many people were also trying to play on those servers without having enough ram, which made for a very ugly experience.

That was then, this is now.

I'm not trying to defend EA or DICE, either. There are still plenty of nasty bugs in the game, broken features, etc. Complain about those all you want.

[thecrazyd]

:D do you PC owners use some sort of template for a response to people who play console FPS too? Your response was PCElitisterric!
whilst trying to flog a dead argument.
You are asking for it. There is nothing wrong with thinking PCs are superior for a certain game type, just like there is nothing wrong with thinking consoles are superior for a certain game type. Not all things are created equal, and I believe that FPSs control better on a PC. You are just begging for an arguement. This kind of shit is just as bad as the cocks who started it by bringing up the whole PC thing in a thread about a console game. Sure, you didn't bring it up, but you started the arguement. Just let it go, and it won't degenerate into a slapfest.

*EDIT* Guess I am too late. Anyone want to take bets for how many stupid replies this will get? I am guessing it will hit 200 by lunch time.

[Morratut]

Groan :p

This is hilarious :D

I'm not getting into a argument about mse/keyb vs pad. I own a nice PC as well as a 360. I like them both.

I know the good and bad of them both.

[MrMeatshake]

the funny thing is, for any post mentioning 'i can't believe you play with a controler! loller!' etc, there's 5 saying 'stfu and stop arguing about which is better!'

i think if they'd bin left to thier own devices, we'd only have 3 or 4 pages of comments, instead of 7.

[trip1eX]

Bah the console version is the junior version of BF2 on the pc. If it were the other way around I'd buy a 360.

[Venkman]

Watch out! It's another INTERNET ARGUMENT!

[phantomhitman]

I guess you've never seen or played either Halo or Halo2 then...

What is this halo you are refering to? :rolleyes: I am not a halo player, but everytime I have played that game I do not remember auto aim. I can name a list of pc/console games that have that feature, but I do not know of any that allow you to use it online. Can some halo players fill me in as to wether or not auto aim is on with mulitplayer?

[Argus]

If ya don't think people cheat in console online games, you're sorely mistaken.

I have been playing BF2 since it came out. I usually end up in the top 5 on the server. I am not sure I have ever saw someone I thought was cheating. I do not consider any thing that the game allows a cheat (C4 toss, bunny hopping nader, dolphin diving). When ever I come across people using these I just do something to counter it. If there are people using aimbots or wall hacks they must suck. Ofcourse I stick to ranked servers only.

Argus


BF2 tags [G14]Argus & HumanAimBot

[mpsmith]

Damn I cant believe this thread is still going on. Controls aside, a 24-player limit just blows. Does anyone know why this was imposed? What are some of the other games' player-limits?

[mightbe]

You guys are still having the keyboard and mouse vs. controller discussion? Haven't you heard of a little game called Halo 2? This is kind of a dead discussion, FPS games work just fine on a console controller. They also work just fine on a keyboard and mouse.

I tend to prefer the console controller for games that have vehicles, since I end up hooking up a joystick to my PC to fly/drive the vehicles anyway.

I totally didn't start this. *looks over his shoulder*
I was merely asking that we all be allowed to play on the same servers together. Foster some unity, yo.

And the 360 controller is great on the PC for flying/driving. If only if you've got the wired one.

[mightbe]

oh, no!

*crazy shit mightbe said*

oh, god no!

*cackles* come get yer hug bro.

[Sl1pstream]

If you've only got the wireless one, get a play & charge kit. It lets ya hook it up to USB for PC fun.

It does? Last time I tried it only charged my controller.

[mightbe]

Hrrm. Works with my wired controller (Have two wireless and one wired). I'm trying the wireless one now.

*UPDATE* - source (http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/19/parasitic-play-and-charge-controllers-get-juice-from-windows/) - My own testing confirms this.
The wireless ones DO NOT work on windows, even with the play and charge kit. If you need the drivers for a wired controller, look here. (http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/gaming/productdetails.aspx)

Deleted my previous message to avoid confusion.