24 - The Game - The Interview

[fitbabits]

Gamecloud (http://www.gamecloud.com) have posted an interview (http://www.gamecloud.com/article.php?article_id=3032) with Tim Hall, producer at 2K Games (http://www.2kgames.com), on the official game of the hit Fox TV show 24.

With the fifth season of the TV show set to premiere Sunday night, Fox's 24 is getting ready to make its viewers scared, shocked and surprised with the further adventures of CTU operative Jack Bauer. Late in February, those fans will get a 24 experience of a different kind when developer Cambridge Studios and publisher 2K Games releases 24: The Game exclusively for the PS2. Gamecloud got a chance to chat with 2K Games producer Tim Hall about their plans for the game.

Gamecloud - Did any of the cast members from the show participate in 24: The Game?

Tim Hall - Absolutely! The majority of the actors from seasons 2 and 3 appear in the game, including Kiefer Sutherland, Carlos Bernard, Dennis Haysbert, Elisha Cuthbert, Reiko Aylesworth, Mary-Lynn Rajskub, and James Badge Dale, among others. Each of them lent their likeness as well as voice talent.

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Gamecloud - Finally is there anything else you wish to say about 24: The Game?

Tim Hall - If you are a fan of the show this will take you on a great 24 ride, and if you’ve never seen the show before this would be a great introduction into the world of 24.
24: The Game is scheduled for a PS2 release on 02/28/2006

Has anyone played the demo on this month's OPM? I love the show, but I'm almost scared to play the game for fear of it sucking.

[Taco]

24, that's an up and down series. Loved season 1, 2 sucked and from what I read so did 3 for the same reasons. Just started watching reruns of 4 and I love it.

In the end they get a thumbs up for casting someone from Mr. Show in a starring role.

[fitbabits]

24, that's an up and down series. Loved season 1, 2 sucked and from what I read so did 3 for the same reasons. Just started watching reruns of 4 and I love it.

In the end they get a thumbs up for casting someone from Mr. Show in a starring role.
Yeah, it's up and down, that's for sure. Speaking of up and down, I'm sad in a way that Kim is no longer in the show. :)

[Taco]

She's supposed to be back for a few episodes this season.

[fitbabits]

She's supposed to be back for a few episodes this season.
Oooooh, I'd been looking for a good enough reason to get TiVo.

[Taco]

That's how I'm watching Season 4. Every Monday they have four episodes while I'm at work. On TNT or something.

Thank you my newly found Tivo friend.

[fitbabits]

That's how I'm watching Season 4. Every Monday they have four episodes while I'm at work. On TNT or something.

Thank you my newly found Tivo friend.
I've no idea why I haven't signed up for TiVo yet - or at least the Time Warner equivalent. :confused:

[PacerDawn]

I haven't tried the demo and will not be buying the game. I don't own a PS2. So that is one less sale they will make. I still fail to see how exclusive titles, which only serve to limit your target audience, are desirable to anyone but the console manufacturer...

[fitbabits]

I haven't tried the demo and will not be buying the game. I don't own a PS2. So that is one less sale they will make. I still fail to see how exclusive titles, which only serve to limit your target audience, are desirable to anyone but the console manufacturer...
You've answered your own question - it's all about the hardware manufacturer, in this case Sony. They bank on people buying their console to play certain games. Can't see why 24 would be a system seller, but I'm neither an analyst or in marketing. :rolleyes:

[Mr.Green]

PS2 exclusives make me wanna eat kittens.

[fitbabits]

PS2 exclusives make me wanna eat kittens.
I'll kill you hard if you even try!

[Balthasar]

You've answered your own question - it's all about the hardware manufacturer, in this case Sony. They bank on people buying their console to play certain games. Can't see why 24 would be a system seller, but I'm neither an analyst or in marketing. :rolleyes:
Could have more to do with the TV show rights. While FOX broadcasts it, there may be some sort of other deal with Sony in the various contracts. All of these broadcasting and music companies tend to be so interconnected, who knows (or maybe someone does?).

[Balthasar]

24, that's an up and down series. Loved season 1, 2 sucked and from what I read so did 3 for the same reasons. Just started watching reruns of 4 and I love it.

In the end they get a thumbs up for casting someone from Mr. Show in a starring role.
You got it a bit wrong there. Season 2 was far superior to season 1, save for the episodes involving Kim Bauer getting herself in some trouble (though some of the opening stuff was good). Season 3 was a little down for me, except some of the stuff with Tony, and the ending, which was phenominal (and gut-wrenching). Season 4 seemed like it would be shaky too, but then it picks up and turned out to be pretty good overall. I imagine if you've seen any of the commercials for season 5, parts of season 4 are ruined for you.

[Taco]

Opinion can't be wrong. I hated season two, everything was cheesy, tacky, predictable and even less believable. The Kim Bauer getting into trouble episodes were even worse than their season 1 counterparts. I stopped watching half way through and just trashed the whole series in my mind, didn't watch again until I noticed Season 4 re-runs being blown through last week.

[Mr.Green]

I'll kill you hard if you even try!
Bring it, pussy. :o

[fitbabits]

Bring it, pussy. :o
If you even touch one hair on any cat with the intention of devouring said feline, I'll have every single cat (stray or otherwise) in your neighborhood visit you in the middle of the night and slowly consume you - starting with your eyballs and moving on to your knob. :)

I'm not called The Cat Whisperer for nothing.

[Grifter]

No matter how hard I try I can't bring my self to believe this game will be any good.

[Grifter]

I'm not called The Cat Whisperer for nothing.

I think I had that last week but the doctor gave me some medicine and it cleared right up.

[Balthasar]

Opinion can't be wrong.
Well, you said it "sucked," which is much more a presumption of fact than an opinion. An opinion would be "I didn't like it."

I hated season two, everything was cheesy, tacky, predictable and even less believable. The Kim Bauer getting into trouble episodes were even worse than their season 1 counterparts. I stopped watching half way through and just trashed the whole series in my mind, didn't watch again until I noticed Season 4 re-runs being blown through last week.
To each his own, I guess.

[Mr.Green]

If you even touch one hair on any cat with the intention of devouring said feline, I'll have every single cat (stray or otherwise) in your neighborhood visit you in the middle of the night and slowly consume you - starting with your eyballs and moving on to your knob. :)

I'm not called The Cat Whisperer for nothing.
Dogs > Cats.

Die! :p

[Taco]

"In my opinion it sucked".

Just for you.

[GodFather]

The whole game has you on the phone saying "You have to trust me Mr President. Im the only one in the world who can defuse this" and the Preisdent responds with a varity of one liners like, "Im oging to hold you personally responsible, this counry is counting on you" And you say "I Understand sir" and then try to unlock a ticking timebomb. thats from 7-8am. No Terrorist ever sleep..well they do but on Saudi time!

[fitbabits]

Dogs > Cats.

Die! :p
I'm on the phone right now with Bella, who is the leader of my kitty gang (and undefeated in several meetings with the clearly inferior canine species). She says, and I quote:

"prrp mrrrmmm prrrrrr meeeeemmpppp raorrrrrrmp mrrrrmrrmr prrrrrrrrrm"

Translated: "Not again. Sigh, time to kick more mutt ass. And Mr. Green - sleep with one eye open!"

[agentgray]

You got it a bit wrong there. Season 2 was far superior to season 1, save for the episodes involving Kim Bauer getting herself in some trouble (though some of the opening stuff was good). Season 3 was a little down for me, except some of the stuff with Tony, and the ending, which was phenominal (and gut-wrenching). Season 4 seemed like it would be shaky too, but then it picks up and turned out to be pretty good overall. I imagine if you've seen any of the commercials for season 5, parts of season 4 are ruined for you.
She was great eye candy (Girl Next Door? OMG!..and I don't normally watch teen movies) , but I'm glad she's off the show.

At first, with last season having Tony come back I thought was a little cheesy, and then HELLO! They could just make a show with Tony and Jack. I mean, he held his own pretty well.

And please, writers, keep Haysbert on the show. The whole prez story sucked but as an actor he worked. Make him a senator now or something....keep him in contact with Jack.

..and we all want to see Cloe and Edgar do it.

[fitbabits]

..and we all want to see Cloe and Edgar do it.
Noooooooo! Mental Etch-a-Sketch moment.

*shakes head vigorously*

[bKangy]

Edgar probably wasn't the best eyecandy replacement they could have picked :P

[Mr.Green]

Fitbabits, I'm your new Arch Nemesis. This world ain't big enough for both of us.

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[fitbabits]

Fitbabits, I'm your new Arch Nemesis. This world ain't big enough for both of us.

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LOL! This needs to be settled...

Cat FTW! (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=dog&word2=cat)

[Stormwatcher]

you peoples are crazy, season 3 was the best so far, tight plot from beginning to the end. and 2 wasn't THAT bad, although the last 5 hours were kinda weak.

I still have to finish day 4, but it was cool until i stopped.

[Taco]

Well like I said, I never saw 3, but the few plot summaries I read and heard of were too similar to 2 for my tastes.

In any case, it's not peoples, just me :).

[Jacob Singer]

Seasons 1 and 2 were some of the best action/drama on television in those years. Seasons 3 and 4 were some of the best comedies on tv in those years.

I'm trying to keep my fingers crossed for season 5, but I'm not too hopeful...

[Mr.Green]

LOL! This needs to be settled...

Cat FTW! (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=dog&word2=cat)
Fixed it for you! (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=dogs&word2=cats)

:D

[fitbabits]

Fixed it for you! (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=dogs&word2=cats)

:D
Typical dog lover - resorts to massaging the facts. :)

[joruussuun]

I read some stuff from TV guide, supposedly in Season 5 (not that spoilerish):
Chloe has turned into a 'major hottie', is shagging some guy in CTU who is NOT Edgar (thank god)...
Kim turns up part way through...
There are like 6 deaths in the first couple episodes...
(There is a little more, but I forget... go to tvguide.com (http://www.tvguide.com) and check out some of their columns.)
Other stuff:
Palmer was the best president and better be back...
I enjoyed all seasons... but I generally enjoy everything that isn't 'work' and keeps me entertained...

EDIT: Oh yeah, Cats>Dogs... and there will be no Kitten consumption or else!

[BabyJesus]

Kim is back and I love it.. She may be stoopid(at least her character), but she is remarkably hot. Liked all of the seasons, even last years, which could have used some sprinkling of Kim here and there especially running..... in a tank top..... ;)

In regards to cats, they suck, but kittens are cute in a way.. Dogs are ok.

[ReaverX]

I was a bit dissapointed with the demo. It's okay, just not worth forking 50 bucks for. Driving sections are a little floaty, and the shooting segments need a better aiming system. Maybe if they sold it for $24.00?

[NACIONAL]

I thought that i was the only one that loved cats....

[joruussuun]

I thought that i was the only one that loved cats....
You must never've seen a post by Fitbabits.
His cats even talk to him, which he also seems to be posting lately. :D

[Balthasar]

Opinion can't be wrong.
I think the world is flat.

I think we evolved from guppies.

Those are my opinions. Am I wrong?

[AversionFX]

Well, you said it "sucked," which is much more a presumption of fact than an opinion. An opinion would be "I didn't like it."


To each his own, I guess.

"I didn't like it," is a fact. No matter what happens, it will still be true at the end of the day that I didn't like it.

"It sucked." is an opinion. Obviously, there is someone who liked it, and therefore, it didn't suck.

But seriously, did anyone play the goddamn demo or not?

[Nessus]

I find it interesting how everyone had their different favorite seasons.

Season 1 and 4 are by far my favorites.

[Balthasar]

"I didn't like it," is a fact. No matter what happens, it will still be true at the end of the day that I didn't like it.
A fact of your own personal taste, perhaps, is that you did not like it. What you do or do not like is not factual knowledge as per the object being valued. Your liking of it does not tell us anything about the object itself.

"It sucked." is an opinion. Obviously, there is someone who liked it, and therefore, it didn't suck.
This manages to make not nearly as much sense as it should. However, "it sucked" attempts to place a value on the object. The problem with a statement like that lies in the fact that if one says something sucked--which is directed towards the object--instead of "I didn't enjoy it"--which is directed toward the self--one can actually dispute the factuality of that comment. If you tell me the writing on The Twilight Zone sucked, I can dispute that by discussing the intertextual messages of episodes like "The Monsters are Due on Maple Street" or "The Shelter" or especially "It's a Good Life." While you might interpret "it sucked" as one's personal feelings about an object, if you make judgements on the object itself, it becomes open to scrutiny.

In other words, "it sucked" is a statement of fact, not an opinion.

[AversionFX]

A fact of your own personal taste, perhaps,


This manages to make not nearly as much sense as it should.

In other words, "it sucked" is a statement of fact, not an opinion.

WTF, no.

I LIKED IT. = Fact. It is not an opinion in any way. The fact that I liked it (or not) is not subject to change.

"It sucked" is a goddamn opinion, because someone can just as easily say, "No it didn't, it was awesome."

If I like it, and I say I like it, that is a fact.

"Did you like it?"

YES.

The fact that I like it is not an opinion because no matter who asks, or what time it is, I still enjoyed it.

However, if I say it sucks, that is an opinion because someone MAY, and WILL think otherwise.

How the fuck could you ever think that "it sucks" is fact? That is the stupidest thing anyone has ever said in the history of time. You are completely backwards on your theory.

[Balthasar]

How the fuck could you ever think that "it sucks" is fact? That is the stupidest thing anyone has ever said in the history of time. You are completely backwards on your theory.
"It sucks" is a qualitative judgement of the thing being discussed. That it can be wrong does not mean it cannot be presented as fact. You will note I keep saying "presented as fact" or "statement of fact" because very few things in life can be known as "Fact" with any certainty. That doesn't make everything not known as absolute fact an opinion. For example, Evolution. That's not an opinion (depending on what part of the U.S. you come from), but it is not technically a fact either. If I say the Detroit Lions suck, regardless of anyone else that doesn't think they suck, I can back that statement up with statistics that prove they do indeed suck. That's a fact.

In any event, you seemed to have lost the point of what I was originally responding to, which is that opinions can be and often are wrong.

[Taco]

In that case you should be able to back up what you are presenting as fact, that season 2 doesn't suck.

You can't of course, because it's opinion.

[Balthasar]

In that case you should be able to back up what you are presenting as fact, that season 2 doesn't suck.
Sure I can. Season 2 had much stronger writing. Unlike season 1, the writers had an idea of where they were headed, and it showed. There were far fewer events that felt out of place as a result (recall Teri Bauer having amnesia--while it's plausible in that scenario, the execution of it was rough, to say the least). Season 2 also benefits from having a more fleshed out Jack, whose personality had become much darker after the events of season 1. Not that "darker" means better, but that event did add significant depth to his psychological state. The strained relationship between Kim and Jack was also very well done and served to climax the midpoint of season 2--the bomb going off--giving what Jack was going to do far greater emotional resonance. In general, there was just a lot more going on. All of the relationships between the characters were vastly more complex (which continued through each of the seasons and are probably at their most interesting in Season 4).

[Taco]

That's no more proof of fact than my previous post on why I disliked it and is once again based on opinion. This is an argument you can't win. And a stupid one at that ;).

[Balthasar]

That's no more proof of fact than my previous post on why I disliked it and is once again based on opinion. This is an argument you can't win. And a stupid one at that ;).
I could sit down and break down more specifics between episodes and characters (which I'm not going to do under any circumstances), but if you're saying doing that could not prove my point (or that you could not counter my points by doing the same), then you are also saying one could never state as a matter of fact that "1984" is a more intelligent, better writen story than "Gigli."

[mister_slim]

The demo was alright. They did some interesting work with the minigames, which worked pretty well and captured the feel of a team working together. The driving section was pretty good, except the cars handle like hovercars. The shooting sections, the meat of the game, have the most problems. There's some interesting ideas, but the A.I. is really bad and the targeting is really poor.
I haven't tried the demo and will not be buying the game. I don't own a PS2. So that is one less sale they will make. I still fail to see how exclusive titles, which only serve to limit your target audience, are desirable to anyone but the console manufacturer...
The game was made by a SCEE studio. 2K is just publishing it.

[Balthasar]

The demo was alright. They did some interesting work with the minigames, which worked pretty well and captured the feel of a team working together. The driving section was pretty good, except the cars handle like hovercars. The shooting sections, the meat of the game, have the most problems. There's some interesting ideas, but the A.I. is really bad and the targeting is really poor.

The game was made by a SCEE studio. 2K is just publishing it.
It's probably going to suck. Won't stop me from watching the FOUR HOUR PREMIER beginning tomorrow (after another 4-5 hours of football!).