Intel - Leap Ahead

[bapenguin]

Intel - Leap Ahead (http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20060103corp.htm) is the company's first new slogan after the many years of Intel Inside.

Leap Ahead? How about Leap Ahead to a new slogan.

[Kelegacy]

Or how about: Intel: AMD's Bitches.

[The Iron Weasel]

Or how about: Intel: AMD's Bitches.

Quoted For Truth!

[Malovech]

How about they fire their marketing personnel.

[Reanimated]

I like it. It implies the leap to multi-core.

[fitbabits]

It's horrible, absolutely horrible. Leap a-fucking-HEAD? How's about they change it to Intel - Not Inside or Intel - Just how do AMD do it? or Intel - Speed is overrated!

I'll stop now.

[Taco]

The logo's not bad and their vision for marketing is certainly not geared towards us. It's more for the "generate virtual objects and phenomenon inside the computer" Dell crowd.

As far as being AMD's bitches. AMD has been destroying them for years now, yet Intel is still in a real good position. I'd say AMD is closer to the Bitch role. Do all the work and don't reap the same rewards.

[joruussuun]

The only good processor they've made in years is the Pentium M... waiting to see how the next ones will do. The last four systems I've built have all been AMD.

[Evil Avatar]

That fracking sucks.

[Atorak]

Intel - Still Losing Market Share.

[bean19]

I'm sure there is a whole marketing campaign around this that is designed to make the uneducated identify well with their brand logo.

[agentgray]

Ok. They are changing their M chipset to "Core" They make this announcement a week before MacWorld. Stay with me here.

Apple is moving to an Intel chipset.

Who else here thinks it might be called "Apple Core"?

[Voodoo]

Hey Leap Ahead sounds great! They are fucking fleas on the back of the mighty lion AMD. I love it!

Wait till Socket M, AMD is gonna rock the socks off of Intel. Quad core processors, wowow!

[fitbabits]

Ok. They are changing their M chipset to "Core" They make this announcement a week before MacWorld. Stay with me here.

Apple is moving to an Intel chipset.

Who else here thinks it might be called "Apple Core"?
Brilliance! :D

[lowlevel]

Xbox 360: "Jump in"

Intel: "Leap ahead"

... coming soon:

Nissan: "Hop on"

Nike: "Skip around"

Trojan condoms: "Slide through"

Who says the advertising community is composed of people incapable of an original thought of their own? :p

[fitbabits]

Xbox 360: "Jump in"

Intel: "Leap ahead"

... coming soon:

Nissan: "Hop on"

Nike: "Skip around"

Trojan condoms: "Slide through"
For The Win!

[Nite_Moogle]

Ok. They are changing their M chipset to "Core" They make this announcement a week before MacWorld. Stay with me here.

Apple is moving to an Intel chipset.

Who else here thinks it might be called "Apple Core"?
If they missed that opportunity they should be fired. That is pure gold.

[Roc Ingersol]

Xbox 360: "Jump in"

Intel: "Leap ahead"

... coming soon:

Nissan: "Hop on"

Nike: "Skip around"

Trojan condoms: "Slide through"

Who says the advertising community is composed of people incapable of an original thought of their own? :p
/golfclap

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[TheKeck]

So, I've noticed that several games lately have had little intros and inserts talking about how the game runs well on Intel. Seems like they're getting desperate. Of course, the things make me feel good, since I'm apparently the only guy around who actually has an Intel chip. :(

[fitbabits]

So, I've noticed that several games lately have had little intros and inserts talking about how the game runs well on Intel. Seems like they're getting desperate. Of course, the things make me feel good, since I'm apparently the only guy around who actually has an Intel chip. :(
Be gone with you! This is an AMD only club. :rolleyes:

nVidia and Intel run some sort of cross-promotion thingy a while ago when ATI were pwning nVidia. The ATI versus nVidia rivalry has turned in favor of nVidia, but Intel are still struggling to reach the same level of consumer appreciation and general fandom that AMD enjoys.

[TheKeck]

Be gone with you! This is an AMD only club. :rolleyes:


But.... but..... I'm a nice guy!

[Stormwatcher]

What about: Leap Intel and get an AMD?
or: AMD chips leap ahead of Intel's?
Or: We're #1, why bother.

[The Iron Weasel]

But.... but..... I'm a nice guy!

An AMD-less nice guy. Which as far as I'm concered is a bastard. :D

[TheKeck]

An AMD-less nice guy. Which as far as I'm concered is a bastard. :D

Say what you will about me, but leave my parents out of this. :p

[Abash Alarmist]

Just remember that they do not love you.

The only non AMD processor that I have is my laptop, which is a Pentium M. Couldn't beat the efficiency (power consumptuon - horsepower). I kinda feel bad, but then I realize that I amke up for it with 5+ computers now with only AMD.

[GWhite]

I really like AMD but they just don't have the fabs and what not to be a serious threat to Intel at this point (is Dresden their only modern fab?). Intel is also at lot more diversified, so it can screw up on occasion. AMD on the other hand always seems to be running the ragged edge of profitability.

[agentgray]

I really like AMD but they just don't have the fabs and what not to be a serious threat to Intel at this point (is Dresden their only modern fab?). Intel is also at lot more diversified, so it can screw up on occasion. AMD on the other hand always seems to be running the ragged edge of profitability.
In the desktop sector go with AMd, but with servers I'll still stick with Intel.

[Taco]

I'd go with AMD servers in a heartbeat if they were more widely available(read: Dell). Their servers have had a leg up on Intel longer than their workstations.

[Montolio]

Well, like they used to say around these parts...

Is this the logo that adds the fun?

I don't know what it is about their new slogan that makes me think of Buzz Lightyear belting out "to infinity and beyond!" ;-)

[Neosho]

Why would Intel want to leap ahead? There's nothing in their future but the slow takeover by AMD of their market...

[Slack3r78]

In the desktop sector go with AMd, but with servers I'll still stick with Intel.

Er, with *notebooks* stick with Intel. The Opteron absolutely destroys the current batch of Xeons in every way. I/O bandwidth is a major bottleneck for the Xeon and generally something you *need* in a server.

Throw in the fact that Opterons draw significantly less power and output less heat than Xeons, meaning you can cram more of them into the same amount of space, and I see virtually nothing compelling about the Xeon outside the Intel name.

[Taco]

Why would Intel want to leap ahead? There's nothing in their future but the slow takeover by AMD of their market...

Anyone who thinks AMD is ahead for good is a tad bit on the slanted side. Intel has decades of experience(the majority of which they kept AMD as #2) and resources to boot, I don't think there's a chance that AMD still wears the crown when Intel's next real architecture change is released. The last real upgrade was the P4, which has hit it's max much sooner than Intel was hoping. They've had to tweak their M line to patch the gap until they have a real solution, which was never the plan.

As much as I love AMD(I've been 100% AMD since my Athlon 800), Intel was the sleeping giant as AMD jumped pass them. Just my opinion.

[51|RandoM]

In the desktop sector go with AMd, but with servers I'll still stick with Intel.

That is a fine attitude, if you want the slowest, largest(in physical size), hottest, highest energy consuming x86 servers in existance.

If, on the other hand, you want the fastest server with the smallest footprint and the least power consumption, you'll be going with an AMD opteron solution.

People who just buy intel because thats all they've ever done, or because thats all you can get from Dell are lazy. People who do that for servers intended for business use are not only lazy, they're incredibly incompetent.

There are places Intel is still a valid option, but servers? Man you've got me laughing on that one.

Intel's new slogan is fine, if, IF they match it with a "leap ahead" in the overall performance of their products.

[Taco]

Well I'd go with a different company just to get AMD, lots of politics involved with our Dell relationship where I work though. It's not changing.

[agentgray]

That is a fine attitude, if you want the slowest, largest(in physical size), hottest, highest energy consuming x86 servers in existance.

If, on the other hand, you want the fastest server with the smallest footprint and the least power consumption, you'll be going with an AMD opteron solution.

People who just buy intel because thats all they've ever done, or because thats all you can get from Dell are lazy. People who do that for servers intended for business use are not only lazy, they're incredibly incompetent.

There are places Intel is still a valid option, but servers? Man you've got me laughing on that one.

Intel's new slogan is fine, if, IF they match it with a "leap ahead" in the overall performance of their products.

When I go with a server I look at the vendor not the processor. If my vendor uses Intel. It's what I'm going to use. when that vendor offers AMD I'll get that. The vendor replaces, maintains, and engineers for the chips. And no, we don't use Dell servers.

In our applications speed is not an issue, but relaibility is. The vendor is giving us that reliability...which we pay a premium for.

A homebrew server (for the non-lazy) won't work for us. I have never found a retailer who can give me 4 hour turnaround like a major vendor can.

Let me know of one and I'll sing a different tune. However, I need for this retailer to have a pretty good shot of being in existance over the life of the server.

[Taco]

Off the top of my head HP/Compaq and Sun's x86 boxes.

Not a fan, but I am pretty sure they offer AMD's now and have 4 hour turn arounds. I used to get Dell to cut prices by telling them I was going to get an AMD server from HP. In any case, vendor preference is certainly not the opinion your earlier post alluded to.

[Taco]

I know Sun did, they were the first.

Here's HPs Proliants:
http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/platforms/index-dl.html

[agentgray]

Off the top of my head HP/Compaq and Sun's x86 boxes.

Not a fan, but I am pretty sure they offer AMD's now and have 4 hour turn arounds. I used to get Dell to cut prices by telling them I was going to get an AMD server from HP. In any case, vendor preference is certainly not the opinion your earlier post alluded to.
Work and home are two entirely different beasts with me. I should have differentiated.

At home, I'm all AMD, except for the laptop. At work, we're all Intel. I'll have to take a look at HP's offerings. We're due for a round of server upgrades in two months. Looks like I get to go shopping.

[Taco]

You can use Sun as a bargaining chip but I wouldn't pursue them. They may have gotten better, but we got one of their first x86 AMD boxes they put out, V65 I think, and the driver support was horrible. It actually didn't come with drivers for many of the components integrated on the motherboard(including network), I had to google search for them and burn them to a CD.

First and last x86 Sun server I bought, hopefully they are better now.

[Slack3r78]

As much as I love AMD(I've been 100% AMD since my Athlon 800), Intel was the sleeping giant as AMD jumped pass them. Just my opinion.
Most of the better conjecture I've seen shows AMD holding the lead through H1 2006, with Intel taking a relatively decent lead in H2. Intel's biggest problem is the fact that they're still using a FSB based design with their new architechture.

I'm a bit of an AMD fanboy myself, but the fact that Intel's more or less suffering NIH syndrome with regards to an integrated memory controller and Hyper Transport is where AMD gets a good portion of its advantage from.

And no doubt, vendor plays a large role in the decision when it comes time to buy a server, but given that top-tier vendors (excluding Dell) are offering Opteron solutions these days, it's certainly becoming a harder sell, IMO. When you take power consumption into account along with processing power, you find that you can get more done with fewer servers while using a fraction of the power.

Pretty compelling stuff, which is exactly why Dell and Intel are working so hard to keep their current accounts in the meantime.

[Subbacultcha]

AMD: "The circle is now complete. When I left you, I was but the learner. Now I am the master."

Intel: "Only the master of dual core... and 64-bit... and integrated memory controller..."
/gets sliced in half by an Athlon 64 X2

Steve Jobs: "Nooooooo!!!"

[bboy]

The new logo doesn't really do it for me. They really should paid someone with a better imagination than the one who came up with that tagline.

AMD already skipped passed them anyway. LINK (http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=4616)

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c308/zbart/78b0c477.gif

LEAPSBEYOND.com (http://www.leapsbeyond.com)

[Taco]

Haha, that's great bboy.

[Kyle Jones]

So, I've noticed that several games lately have had little intros and inserts talking about how the game runs well on Intel. Seems like they're getting desperate. Of course, the things make me feel good, since I'm apparently the only guy around who actually has an Intel chip. :(

I still have love for the Intel, so worry not! I have to support the local boys (I'm an Oregonian, doncha know). All I can say is this...

Intel - Atleast You Aren't an AMD Fanboy!

Seriously though, the actual design of their intel logo looks a lot nicer than that retarded dropped e they always used to use.

[51|RandoM]

You can use Sun as a bargaining chip but I wouldn't pursue them. They may have gotten better, but we got one of their first x86 AMD boxes they put out, V65 I think, and the driver support was horrible. It actually didn't come with drivers for many of the components integrated on the motherboard(including network), I had to google search for them and burn them to a CD.

First and last x86 Sun server I bought, hopefully they are better now.

A. That was their first dip, and they were focused entirely upon Solaris. The fact that you could run Windows was just icing on the cake. Those servers were pretty much just rebadged Newisys machines. Up to date drivers for all of their opteron kit is available on Sun's website, now, old and new servers.

B. The new servers are designed by Andy Bechtolstein(sp?)'s company, which Sun bought awhile back. Andy just happens to be an ex-Sun employee/co-founder, matter of fact his employee number at sun is #1. :-)

C. If you're not comfortable with Sun, there is IBM and HP/Compaq as well, both of whom produce Opteron kit. They're boxes aren't as fast as Sun's, either overall, or in bang for buck.

The new Sun opteron boxes are best of breed at this point, just check the different TPC benchmarks. Nobody touches them in that footprint. Of all the support organizations I've worked with in the past 15 years, I put Sun at the head of the pack. They're not quite as good as they used to be, but they're still far ahead of most. Curiously enough, STK was in my top 5 as well, and Sun picked them up.

These aren't homebrew servers anymore.

If you're stuck with a vendor who doesn't do AMD, you might want to ask them why they're ignoring the best x86/x64 server platform in existance.

[Taco]

That's cool, like I said, they could have gotten better. That server stunk of early release syndrome.

Still not sold on Sun, part of it is the reseller we had and part of it is they were behind on technology pretty consistently. They didn't offer hot swappable PSU's in that V65(why?) and at the time Sun didn't offer hard drive capacities that every other company did, 72's I think, maybe 144. The Sun guys I worked with tried to tell me it was a quality control decision, but I call BS on that. My Sun experience only dates back 5 years, so I didn't experience them on top of their game.

I'd love to move to IBM. However due to Dell's relationship with both the company I work for and the organization I'm consulting for right now it's just not going to happen. My hands are tied with Dell and to make matters worse, Dell knows it.

[Kyle Jones]

I had no idea Dell was bad, I've always had good times dealing with their machines, both server and workstation. I know up at Clackamas they've been using Dell Blade servers for a while now and have nothing but praise over how awesome they are, being that they are not only reliable and fast, but also connect directly to Dell so that if a piece fails they notice it and call ITS to inform them and offer times for replacement.


Anyhow, everyone has their brand loyalties, no matter how hard we try to avoid them. You buy something you like, you naturally buy more. I buy nothing but Levi's because I have such good experience with the jeans!

[Taco]

I have no problems with Dell, they've treated me well for a few years now, much better than Compaq/HP did. My desire to move to AMD based servers trumps that though.