View Full Version : Draenei New World of Warcraft Race?
Phanto
01-01-2006, 06:23 PM
Partingvisions.com is reporting (http://www.partingvisions.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=60&mode=&order=0&thold=0) (by way of Computer Games Magazine) that the new Alliance World of Warcraft race will be the Draenei (http://www.wowwiki.com/Draenei), a fairly ugly troll-like race best known as one of the neutral creeps from Warcraft III.
Alliance players will enjoy playing as Draenei, and the new Blood Elf race gives the Horde faction its first exercise in what humans perceive as sex appeal (even though those Troll females are pretty cute).
http://www.evilavatar.com/images/thumbs/Draeni.jpg
I know its just a rumor but what you guys think??
Heretic Machine
01-01-2006, 06:38 PM
I know its just a rumor but what you guys think??
I think that if it's true, Blizzard saved me $30.
TrackZero
01-01-2006, 06:43 PM
Meh, another race is another race. Though personally I think playing a Naga would have been cooler.
JudasGoat
01-01-2006, 06:49 PM
Naga would be impossible from a solely equipment standpoint. Nothing like getting those boots you finally wanted, Naga!
I think the draenei are a good choice though. They're pretty weird and certainly have reason to hate the orcs/horde.
MacDuff
01-01-2006, 06:50 PM
Whatever. If what I heard is correct, Blizzard wanted it to be Pandaren, and had about 75% of the work done to make the Pandaren, but for whatever reason was forced by an outside decision to not include pandaren as a playable race. Regardless of the reason Pandaren was dropped, it still means that whatever we're getting isn't what Blizzard wanted to do originally, which is lame.
Madhatter45
01-01-2006, 06:50 PM
Hmm. I don't know if this is even remotley feisible. Blood elves are joining the horde for power I assmue, though I could be wrong. But what reason would the Draenei have for joining the alliance? It just doesn't add up at the moment.
JudasGoat
01-01-2006, 06:53 PM
Why? Because the orcs tried to eradicate them. Same reason the undead are allied with the horde.
Abash Alarmist
01-01-2006, 06:54 PM
Damn Chinese Government limiting the races playable in WoW.
Nite_Moogle
01-01-2006, 06:54 PM
Blizzard has already denied that they have given any media source information about the Alliance expansion race. CGW has noted that this should have been mentioned as speculation instead of fact, which partingvisions has been told (in that very same thread that was linked as news, i might add.
Who the hell is going to play one? I mean, they are fucking ugly. These things are so ugly you don't even want to look directly at them. At least you can look at the ugly races on Horde side. I can't wait to see all of the Draenei females running around. baaaaah! They better have some really good racial stats for the two people that do roll one.
Whatever. If what I heard is correct, Blizzard wanted it to be Pandaren, and had about 75% of the work done to make the Pandaren, but for whatever reason was forced by an outside decision to not include pandaren as a playable race. Regardless of the reason Pandaren was dropped, it still means that whatever we're getting isn't what Blizzard wanted to do originally, which is lame.
They dropped it because in China it is illegal to kill pandas, thus having a game in which Panda characters are able to be killed would not be a wise decision, and the game would have been banned in China (which represents a substantial portion of Blizzards Income).
Dariath
01-01-2006, 07:15 PM
Hey so what happened to Warcraft 3 The Frozen Throne in China? Is it banned or playable?
Liquidize105
01-01-2006, 07:18 PM
They're permanently cloaked, I'd say that's pretty good.
Regardless, they make more sense than the Pandarens who hail from the mystical land of Pandoria, or something.
Since we're talking about April fools jokes, the 2-player Ogre mage would've made a great player character.
Heretic Machine
01-01-2006, 07:18 PM
The reasons don't matter. The fact is, the two most interesting races TO ME in Warcraft aren't going to be playable: Pandarens, and Goblins. Shoving a Draeni in my face doesn't make up for this.
Nameback
01-01-2006, 07:28 PM
As much as I dont want to belive this, a good part of me thinks its true, I've seen the outlands(At least whats finished) and theres a nice bit of Draeni stuff in there. I've heard the theorys of it being worgen but it just dosent seem right that if that were the new race then why would they add the Outlands?
BTW: If anyone wants to see the outlands for themselves, all thats really required is a copy of WoW thats patched.
Nite_Moogle
01-01-2006, 07:34 PM
Update: Message From the Editor:
Hi there. I'm the editor-in-chief of Computer Games Magazine. (http://www.cgonline.com/)
You reproduced and scanned one of our articles (which is a no-no, by the way) about the World of WarCraft expansion, one that mentioned the Draenei as the playable Alliance race. (You also mistakenly called us "Computer Gaming" in your headline.)
There was an error in the article. It should have been noted that the information about the Draenei being the playable race is, in fact, still a rumor; while we're confidant our sources are accurate, it should not have been presented as a statement of fact.
We regret the error, and any confusion it may have caused.
Steve Bauman,
Computer Games Magazine
In. The. Linked. Post.
In. The. Linked. Post.
to give Phanto credit for not trying to mislead.
I know its just a rumor but what you guys think??
In. The. Front. Page. Post.
Nite_Moogle
01-01-2006, 07:45 PM
Partingvisions.com is reporting (by way of Computer Games Magazine) that the new Alliance World of Warcraft race will be the Draenei, a fairly ugly troll-like race best known as one of the neutral creeps from Warcraft III.
It isn't really reporting if it's a rumor is it?
Evil Avatar
01-01-2006, 07:49 PM
I've heard the theorys of it being worgen but it just dosent seem right that if that were the new race then why would they add the Outlands?
I would reactivate my account to play the Worgen or Pandaren. I don't really give a shit about the Blood Elves or the Draenei.
biscuitbutt81
01-01-2006, 08:00 PM
What's wrong with the Draenei again?
JudasGoat
01-01-2006, 08:23 PM
If pandarans were in the game, I would kill every one I came across out of principal. Not only that, but the percentage of furries who play WOW would skyrocket.
Suicidal ShiZuru
01-01-2006, 08:27 PM
Maybe its all lies and it will be pandaran after all. Along with a starter zone called "not china"...
Evil Avatar
01-01-2006, 08:46 PM
Maybe its all lies and it will be pandaran after all. Along with a starter zone called "not china"...
That thing about not being able to sell the game in China smells like bullshit. So what if there is a law in China saying you can't kill Panda's? What does that have to do with video games? Nothing at all.
Abash Alarmist
01-01-2006, 08:48 PM
You are more than aware that China is a police state. If they don't like something, they will deal with it. Whether it be economically or by brute force (Tiannemen Square).
Why do people love those stupid panda people so much? They're stupid. And gay, too.
They ought to give the Alliance a turncoat clan of Orcs. Orcs rule.
Herald42
01-01-2006, 09:11 PM
Well, the way I see it, the new race has a lot to fill in to be on the Alliance side. According to WoW Wiki (http://www.wowwiki.com/Rumored_Races), it's already suggested that the race will be Outland oriented, ugly, on the Horde continent, and unexpected. Now, this could easily describe the Spanish Inquisition (focused on another world, led by an ugly bugger by the name of Torquemada, present *everywhere*, and never expected). I'm going to throw my absolutely unfounded opinion around.
The Blood Elves fill in a gap that the Horde desperately needed -- an INT-prime race, good for Mages, especially. Something that does more than straight, generic beating (unlike the Strength-heavy Orc, Trolls, and Tauren starting stats). Looking at the Alliance, I see all of the stats represented among the races except for Spirit. It seems to me that they'd get a Spirit-casting race to balance that out.
My main problem with the Draeni resides in their possible racial trait -- a more potent version of Shadowmeld. According to the lore, and re-stated at WoW Wiki (http://www.wowwiki.com/Draenei), "they are known for being great spies and assassins as their warriors can Shadowmeld at all times of day, even while moving." Night Elves have that role down, and granting them something more powerful would be... unfortunate.
So, I'm going to re-iterate: the new Alliance race must be the Spanish Inquisition. That is all.
Shifteh
01-01-2006, 09:16 PM
You are more than aware that China is a police state. If they don't like something, they will deal with it. Whether it be economically or by brute force (Tiannemen Square).
*Rolls eyes*
Yes yes, living in China is a virtual war, and no one is safe.
I mean, to back up your 'Whether it be economically or by brute force' comment, take a look at Hong Kong. I mean, you can't do anything there now. Yes, a virtual prison it is.
You look back far enough and you'll find a Tiananmen Square in any nations history.
anakin876
01-01-2006, 09:21 PM
You look back far enough and you'll find a Tiananmen Square in any nations history.
But with Karate the pandaren could kick the censor's asses from here to tiananmen square - so wouldn't that make things ok?
Royal Fool
01-01-2006, 09:29 PM
Well...
- The source article was updated
- CGW is not confirming anything, only posting a rumor that they 'think' is plausible (Magazines like CGW aren't exactly bleeding-edge when it comes to news; the content is tailored for the masses, the scans confirm that)
- Blizzard hasn't said anything about any of the possible races
To be honest, the whole "China likes pandas" thing is bullshit. There are many animals in WoW that are considered endangered: Tigers, turtles, kodos (A weird mix of an elephant and a rhino, both a protected species), lions, leopards, polar bears, apes... and more. While it's true that pandas were never creatures you could kill in the game (until the pandaren decide to show up), the fact that players are killing all those other animals by the dozens in the name of progress should say something.
Not to mention last time I checked it was against the law to kill humans in China. No?
Not if you're the government.
Yeah, the whole china thing is nonsense. If they decided not to do Pandas, it was because that wouldnt really have fit very well. I hope to god they put them in the game in some form though. I always wanted to be a samurai panda, so I"ll never achieve my true dream goal.
Jengaaa
01-01-2006, 09:59 PM
I don't think that China's cultural history nor the law in China has anything to do with it. Most people don't realize how small a part the panda has in Chinese history.
It may have to do with Chinese culture but I highly doubt it.
Deadend
01-01-2006, 10:37 PM
Does the Alliance even need another race? No, not really. This would help with hte storyline, as things just went from bad to worse for the Alliance, as now there is another horde race. Also, if I remeber correctly, damn near every server has more Alliance than Horde, as the Horde areas are not as well made.
Just think about it, what if there is NO alliance race?
Savok
01-01-2006, 10:41 PM
At least they make more sense then Blood Elves, considering it was only the Outland Draenei that joined Illidan. Seriously though, Worgens, make them Worgens and actually give the alliance something good besides tits.
Acidpoptart
01-01-2006, 10:41 PM
Now to take the discussion back from the China Hijacking :)
I actually think the Draenei look pretty cool and they definitly have alot of reasons to hate the orcs. I would most definitly play one. I do not think the Panderans should ever be added, unless a third, neutral faction is added. They dont seem to have any reason to fight on either side. They have no interest in the feud. Plus everyone would want to be one and thus make the ratio of humans to orcs even more screwed up than it is.
I have friends working at Blizzard (I live in Irvine) who dont know anything for sure, since they arnt too high up (they are only GMs), but one of them still tells me its going to be Panderans. NO matter what anyone says, he believes they are it.
I guess we just need to relax and wait for a final announcment.
Savok
01-01-2006, 10:46 PM
as the Horde areas are not as well made.
Pure bullshit, the further you get into the game the better Horde becomes, the only thing Alliance has over Horde is better early areas, beyond that in ways of capital locations, FPs, late game quest numbers, classes, they kick Alliance ass. I've played both sides and Horde simply towers over the Alliance.
Deadend
01-01-2006, 10:57 PM
Pure bullshit, the further you get into the game the better Horde becomes, the only thing Alliance has over Horde is better early areas, beyond that in ways of capital locations, FPs, late game quest numbers, classes, they kick Alliance ass. I've played both sides and Horde simply towers over the Alliance.
Ah, I have only played until lv 20ish, and I just felt that alot more love went into the low level Alliance areas.
vallor
01-01-2006, 10:57 PM
Whatever. If what I heard is correct, Blizzard wanted it to be Pandaren, and had about 75% of the work done to make the Pandaren, but for whatever reason was forced by an outside decision to not include pandaren as a playable race.
Thank god for that.
1) While I can get around the somewhat childlike appearance and art direction in WoW, adding pandarians could have very well tossed the "sickenly cute" balance right out the window.
2) Isn't the horde to alliance dynamic already bad enough on most servers without adding yet another highly astetic (sp) looking race to the alliance side and further tilting the balance?
Anyway, down with the joke of the drunken panda race. Whoever made blizzard change their mind saved them at least one customer.
Spigot
01-01-2006, 11:07 PM
Not to mention last time I checked it was against the law to kill humans in China. No?
Ah nuts. You beat me too it.
I think Blizzard did run into lots of problems with the Chinese government with regards to the Pandaren though, thereby nixing the possibility of them being playable. Oh well.
I actually like the idea of the Draenai. Worgen would be better, but what can you do?
How about a gnome-dwarf hybrid? It would look the same as a gnome but have bigger beard options.
Evil Avatar
01-01-2006, 11:23 PM
Ah, I have only played until lv 20ish, and I just felt that alot more love went into the low level Alliance areas.
That might have something to do with the fact that the Alliance areas were done for months before they even started on the Horde areas. Anyone else remember the beta test? The Alliance area was first, the Horde second. And it shows.
Abash Alarmist
01-01-2006, 11:23 PM
Ah nuts. You beat me too it.
I think Blizzard did run into lots of problems with the Chinese government with regards to the Pandaren though, thereby nixing the possibility of them being playable. Oh well.
I actually like the idea of the Draenai. Worgen would be better, but what can you do?
How about a gnome-dwarf hybrid? It would look the same as a gnome but have bigger beard options.
Der Xel'Naga!
Buddha Lotus
01-02-2006, 12:11 AM
I so want the Pandarens!!! Not those ugly blobs of uglyness!!
Savok
01-02-2006, 12:58 AM
Here's a whacky idea, the still pure children of the Creators.
Captain Awesome
01-02-2006, 02:03 AM
Hahaha, seems sort of lame. Unless they have some cool looking animations or are huge?
Horde still has the cooler race designs, even with the new fruity Blood Elves. :P
Abash Alarmist
01-02-2006, 02:15 AM
I don't really get the whole "Ugly vs. Sexy" argument. Personally, I find the Horde races to be much more creative and better looking than say the humans, dwarves, gnomes and elves. They are just far more unique and creative in their own right with a much more (personally) detailed background than Alliance.
That thing about not being able to sell the game in China smells like bullshit. So what if there is a law in China saying you can't kill Panda's? What does that have to do with video games? Nothing at all.
Seriously I mean you can't kill humans in China either......hmmm well I guess that is more of a fine line in China but the principle remains
Savok
01-02-2006, 03:33 AM
I don't really get the whole "Ugly vs. Sexy" argument. Personally, I find the Horde races to be much more creative and better looking than say the humans, dwarves, gnomes and elves. They are just far more unique and creative in their own right with a much more (personally) detailed background than Alliance.
Titties
People rather jiggling NE titties over rotting UD titties.
holysin
01-02-2006, 05:15 AM
As "saltless" as the Draenai might be, they make sense. They have a really good reason to join the alliance (orc destroying their planet maybe), and best of all: they're fugly.
Alliance has more players than horde, right?
Blood Elves look cool, most people who buy the expansion will want a blood elf character. Nobody will want to play as the Draenai (and you won't see the few who do, lol).
In the end you'll get more people joining the horde, possibly balancing the servers.
Or maybe Blizzard will come one with something new or something most people are overlooking. Surely they've noticed how bad the Draenai rumor is being recieved.
Savok
01-02-2006, 05:40 AM
My thoughts have always turned to being just what the hell would Draenei be? Warriors of course as is norm for everyone, rogues (though they'd clash with NE rogues both being so into stealth) and.... what? Hunters I guess could work, though I don't see them consorting with the demons who nearly wiped them out so magic is generally out. Priest? That'd make 4/5 Ally races priests, bit overkill I'd of thought.
Spigot
01-02-2006, 06:45 AM
Actually, the new race will be a standalone faction.
Alliance vs. Horde vs. Zerglings
JudasGoat
01-02-2006, 07:11 AM
Ever been to Hillsbrad? Alliance ARE zerg.
Citizen Philip
01-02-2006, 07:35 AM
I think they fuct wow for a few months at least: most of the non-raiding gamers have hit 60 and they have nothing to do except get owned by people in BGs with raider gear, what fun.
Broken pvp system. The gear gap continues to widen. The unfortunate choice to make horde characters uniformly unappealing physically and the alliance the opposite. The Blood Elves joining the Horde makes no sense, the Panderans would have been a much better choice.
Meh. People will keep coming, but until they release non-raiding endgame stuff people are going to start losing interest in droves.
51|RandoM
01-02-2006, 07:35 AM
New races don't interest me. They can't be significantly different/better without shifting game balnce.
People might recall when Mythic was going to allow Hibernia Nightshades to pick Celt as their starting race.
Phanto
01-02-2006, 07:59 AM
Whatever. If what I heard is correct, Blizzard wanted it to be Pandaren, and had about 75% of the work done to make the Pandaren, but for whatever reason was forced by an outside decision to not include pandaren as a playable race. Regardless of the reason Pandaren was dropped, it still means that whatever we're getting isn't what Blizzard wanted to do originally, which is lame.
In my opinion the pandaren will be great but thats not about to happend because if i'm correct people like Pandarens though they have not been very playable in past games like Warcraft III they still charming people out there.
What i mean is that the race of the Alliance its not going to be very good at all, in fact i think that the new Alliance race sadly is going to be petty, remember that Blizz want to balance the Horde with the new "Night Elves" so the sadly the Horde maybe is getting the best things for the xpansion, but thats jsut me ;) ..
Savok
01-02-2006, 08:26 AM
but until they release non-raiding endgame stuff people are going to start losing interest in droves.
We have that already, it's called Rep Grinding.
BGs work as well, and raid gear won't save quite a few classes there, glass cannons shatter easily.
Jukey
01-02-2006, 10:04 AM
IMO, Draenei as new race = WoW Jumping the shark.
Citizen Philip
01-02-2006, 10:10 AM
We have that already, it's called Rep Grinding.
BGs work as well, and raid gear won't save quite a few classes there, glass cannons shatter easily.
Ah yes rep grinding. Would you prefer the 20 man raid instance that is a free loot run for already equipped raiders, or an incredibly challenging run for a group of 20 non-raiders: did I mention if you do kill a boss you are locked out for a week?
Or battlegrounds where you spend +30 hours gaining reputation, most of the time you will spend losing against the aforementioned epic equipped raiders: don't forget you also get queue times, sometimes +30 minutes in between losing a single match.
Or the deathmarch towards Grand Marshal/High Warlord that requires more commitment than a full-time job?
Battlegrounds are the playground of raiders where they stroke their ego by thrusting their purples at blue equipped 60s.
I would happily point out, I am a raider. And it's stupid.
Klade
01-02-2006, 10:22 AM
At this point I think Blizzard should be feeling constricted as to their race options. The number of races they could implement is pretty small.
1) Not many like the Draenei
2) Naga don't have feet or legs
3) Worgens are not humaniods (you can't pick pocket them or stun them and they don't drop cloth) they are beasts so not likely to be used. Yes they have chains on, but heck raptors have feathers, it doesn't mean they are intelligent
4) Pandaran is a joke - nothing but a joke, and one that Blizzard still giggles about
So I conclude that the new race will be something.. well new. Something we have not heard of before. Probably from the outlands with a new story background. There are any number of fantasy elements that blizzard has not used. Heck I haven't seen a single cat-person anywhere in WoW. I mean if they have cows why not cats?
Not saying the new race will be cats but just making a point that it could be anything new.
JudasGoat
01-02-2006, 10:35 AM
IMO, Draenei as new race = WoW Jumping the shark.
How do you figure that? And putting in a goddamned SAMURAI PANDA BEAR wouldn't be? Draenei are the opposite of "jumping the shark."
Kefkataran
01-02-2006, 11:11 AM
It's been rumored since the Blood Elves were announced, and it makes sense that if Horde are finally getting a pretty race, Alliance will get an ugly one. I believe it.
If this is the new Alliance race, my ass is going Horde.
Blood Elf, Warrior.
endrom
01-02-2006, 02:00 PM
American and european versions of the expansion pack should get pandareans, The damn chinese version can get the shaft and get draenei. serv'em right, see how much they would like that...
Adewade
01-02-2006, 02:07 PM
Alliance needed an 'ugly' race, to go with the Horde's new 'pretty' race, so that the server load might be better balanced, Horde/Alliance. I don't agree with it personally, but people like to play the pretty/morehumanoid people. Humans, NE, and Undead. My personal favourite, Trolls... they get no love.
You betcha I'll be playing as a Draenei. They're just... interesting.
PixelSamurai
01-02-2006, 02:23 PM
I seriously hope their plan for balancing the races is not to include a "shit" race for the alliance and a pretty race for the horde. Seems like the people working on the Draeni would feel useless "Ok, make this race as ugly as possible so no one plays it and instead chooses Blood Elves to *finally* balance our populations!"
I think it would've been cool for them to try and add Naga. I remember before WoW was released they mentioned something about the ocean being a major part of the game. Imagine my shock on my first boat trip load screen. Anyway, an enitre underwater environment starting zone for Naga would be tre cool. Fuck boots, give 'em tail and I dunno fin armor, they only have trouble with two pieces. It's not like Blizzard has never made new armor before. Unfortunately they'd need to make a tail/fin equivilant for all the leg/feet pieces in the game. They won't do this. Or make a third faction. We're not even getting Hero classes for this expansion. Instead, we get strong rumors they are gonna spend their time on some ugly-ass race to fix their population imbalances from day 1.
Citizen Philip
01-02-2006, 05:22 PM
I seriously hope their plan for balancing the races is not to include a "shit" race for the alliance and a pretty race for the horde. Seems like the people working on the Draeni would feel useless "Ok, make this race as ugly as possible so no one plays it and instead chooses Blood Elves to *finally* balance our populations!"
I'm glad in your first phrase you mentioned the reasons why their are problems in WoW. Ugly vs Pretty = unbalanced servers.
I'd play a Draeni, they were always cool.
Kefkataran
01-02-2006, 06:46 PM
I seriously hope their plan for balancing the races is not to include a "shit" race for the alliance and a pretty race for the horde. Seems like the people working on the Draeni would feel useless "Ok, make this race as ugly as possible so no one plays it and instead chooses Blood Elves to *finally* balance our populations!"
Maybe they just realized, rightly so, that anyone deciding what race to play based merely on whether or not its ugly or pretty is a shallow dickhead who's already probably an alliance only player anyways, so who the fuck cares?
I can't stand people whining about this potential choice just because it's "ugly". Christ.
Montgomery_Python
01-02-2006, 07:37 PM
Why do people love those stupid panda people so much? They're stupid. And gay, too.
Not according to what I saw at the zoo.
lewsid
01-02-2006, 07:55 PM
Damn. Sounds cool. I might be tempted to play on the Alliance as one for shits.
It will hurt my stereotype that all Alliance are fascist-prettyboy nazis. I'll still kill every one I see on bloodscalp out of principle.
Hate Alliance. Dig Blizzard. Love Horde.
Kefkataran
01-02-2006, 08:57 PM
Damn. Sounds cool. I might be tempted to play on the Alliance as one for shits.
That's the attitude! Hell yeah!
Mojopin
01-03-2006, 02:20 AM
I didn't read all the posts because there were alot of them ;x, but the Draenei were not always twisted and fugly like you see in the game. They originally had a human form with green skin on their homeworld, but with the destruction of the dark portal the energy that came from the explosion mutated their bodies into what you see in the game. Actually the assassin Garona was half orc and half Draenei, she was always desribed in the lore has being very attractive. So if it is Draenei I'm sure it will have their original form present somehow.
Savok
01-03-2006, 04:56 AM
http://arathor.free.fr/portrait_garona.jpg
This begs the question though, where are the untainted Draenai? Why haven't we seen them, why only the mutants?
Kefkataran
01-03-2006, 06:32 AM
This begs the question though, where are the untainted Draenai? Why haven't we seen them, why only the mutants?
Are there untainted ones? I'm far from an expert of Warcraft lore, but I was under the assumption that all Dranei were 'tainted'.
Roc Ingersol
01-03-2006, 07:17 AM
Draenei blow. Pandaren are a gag that's been overplayed. At best, they'd make a good match to playable Horde goblins in a theoretical South Seas expansion that unlocked Undermine and the Pandaren home continent.
Unfortunately, Furbolgs and Draenei are the most likely. And they both suck.
Draenei have the obvious outland connection. But they aren't on Kalimdor.
Furbolgs have a tendency to be corrupted by demons, so their lore wouldn't be too hard to spackle over. Plus, they're on Kalimdor. There's also the big empty Moonglade that could easily house a starting zone (and a cliff-city north of darkshore).
The only potential race that would get me excited is Worgen. And I hope to shit they're not the alliance race, because then I'd have to play on the alliance side again.
Maybe Razorbacks. They've got a serious demonology connection - making any 'good' tribe a shoe-in for hating demons and the Horde. I'd seriously dig on a warrior with one of those standards on his back.
Those two, being the coolest, are the least likely.
I'd be less surprised by Alliance Kolkar (who also have a repeated interest in Draenei things and destroying fel corruption).
Savok
01-03-2006, 07:18 AM
Well Garona was in WC1, whether any other Draenei came through I've no idea. But if so, why have we not heard anything about them until now? And how did they get to Kalimdor (yes, I maintain the new race HAS to be on Kalimdor).
Savok
01-03-2006, 07:31 AM
Quilboars? I don't there is a good tribe of them. The Alliance would never accept them anyway, they are a xenophobic bunch. It'd have to be someone they already know, Worgens and Furbolgs fit that quite well.
Then again it could be space monkies, I mean shit, Blood Elves and Horde, that's almost taking a whiz on the lore.
XenonCJ
01-03-2006, 07:55 AM
*Rolls eyes*
Yes yes, living in China is a virtual war, and no one is safe.
I mean, to back up your 'Whether it be economically or by brute force' comment, take a look at Hong Kong. I mean, you can't do anything there now. Yes, a virtual prison it is.
You look back far enough and you'll find a Tiananmen Square in any nations history.Like Jamaica for example...
Roc Ingersol
01-03-2006, 08:10 AM
I didn't say that quillboars made much sense, just that they'd be bad ass. Just like Worgen: totally bad ass, but not gonna happen anyway.
It'll be furbolgs or draenei, and it'll suck. Which is fine. Because my Hordies are quite fond of killin furbolgs and draenei.
Blood Elves and Horde isn't so far off from Forsaken and Tauren together.
Lore has been bitch-slapped by game 'balance' since launch anyway.
Savok: There are Draenei in the Swamp of Sorrows and the Blasted Lands; some neutral, some hostile to everyone. None on Kalimdor AFAIK. and none that aren't mutated.
Savok
01-03-2006, 08:36 AM
Forsaken are an interesting situation, as it was a unique one it kinda made sense. but using it as an excuse to bring in the Blood Elves just cheapens it. You'll find Forsaken can't get some Tauren quests, they'd happily lay into each other given an excuse.
And I know where the current camps are, but their numbers are few and they don't have much interest outside getting through the day.
Roc Ingersol
01-03-2006, 08:53 AM
The Blood Elf rationale makes about as much sense to me as the Forsaken. /shrug
There's no reason they can't add similar amounts of tension (if not more) through the quests. It's not the greatest, but they've already done it once, and the Horde really does need a better looking race.
And the aimlessness of the current Draenei is why I so enjoy killing the rubbery little waddlers. Fetching their crystals, saving them from Noboru -- and all I get is some crappy exp? Makes me wish I could keep that Cudgel and go to war with the neutral ones.
Erisian
01-03-2006, 08:54 AM
What the fuck is a Draenei? Do they eat their way out through your stomach if you drink them? Are they bright blue?
I think the new Alliance race should be Capcom, cuz I wanna play as Dhalsim god damnit.
Kefkataran
01-03-2006, 11:15 AM
I think the new Alliance race should be Capcom, cuz I wanna play as Dhalsim god damnit.
Finally, a post that makes sense!
TheKeck
01-03-2006, 11:34 AM
Alliance needed an 'ugly' race, to go with the Horde's new 'pretty' race, so that the server load might be better balanced, Horde/Alliance. I don't agree with it personally, but people like to play the pretty/morehumanoid people. Humans, NE, and Undead. My personal favourite, Trolls... they get no love.
You betcha I'll be playing as a Draenei. They're just... interesting.
I've never touched WoW, so maybe I don't have the most informed opinion, but I follow things. It seems to me that any sentiments of Blizzard making an undesirable race that nobody wants to play in order to balance alignment is pretty ridiculous.
It just seems a little out there to think that a company would spend months/years of work creating a race for a game and keep it secret, despite huge fan interest, with an ultimate goal of....... nobody playing it.
TrackZero
01-03-2006, 01:42 PM
And the aimlessness of the current Draenei is why I so enjoy killing the rubbery little waddlers. Fetching their crystals, saving them from Noboru -- and all I get is some crappy exp? Makes me wish I could keep that Cudgel and go to war with the neutral ones.
Wow. It's sad I understood every reference in that statement.
Kefkataran
01-03-2006, 02:55 PM
I've never touched WoW, so maybe I don't have the most informed opinion, but I follow things. It seems to me that any sentiments of Blizzard making an undesirable race that nobody wants to play in order to balance alignment is pretty ridiculous.
They're only undesirable to stupid people who are overly concerned with how 'pretty' their avatar looks. And if you look around, the Horde actually IS outnumbered on most servers because there are a lot of people apt not to play any Horde races for looks. It's silly. I don't think their goal is for no one to play it, though, it's just to give Alliance an ugly race. Ugly only equals unplayable to morons. Sadly, lots of morosn play WoW.
Wow. It's sad I understood every reference in that statement.
:( Me too.
anakin876
01-03-2006, 03:11 PM
Wow. It's sad I understood every reference in that statement.
I played through it last night! :p
Adewade
01-04-2006, 01:33 AM
Can someone describe the Worgens for me? I admit, I've never gotten a character past level... 38... although I've played the heck out of Warcraft 3.
I'm just wondering why you guys are so pumped about'em.
Savok
01-04-2006, 01:44 AM
Basically, werewolves.
sekari
01-04-2006, 06:27 AM
They're only undesirable to stupid people who are overly concerned with how 'pretty' their avatar looks.
I know this sounds sad and shallow, and I agree that it is. But from my own experiences and from what a lot of people I've talked to, one of the most popular reasons to play an attractive (and often female) character can be summed up by a quote from a friend of mine:
"If I'm going to be playing a game for 6 hours a night looking at somebody's ass the whole time, I'd kinda like it to be a nice looking ass."
I really want to disagree with that comment, but I can't. Sure, there are a lot of role-playing issues and world immersion things that come into play when I make a character. But in the end I'd like something that isn't going to hurt my eyes after the tenth night.
These are just my opinions based on my standards of attractiveness. For those of you able to look past this and play an 'ugly' character, you have my respect and a bit of my envy as you are not so limited in what you allow yourself to play.
Kefkataran
01-04-2006, 09:04 AM
"If I'm going to be playing a game for 6 hours a night looking at somebody's ass the whole time, I'd kinda like it to be a nice looking ass."
I've heard the sentiments before, and I know a lot of people share it. But I do think it's sad and shallow, yes. *shrug* I'll admit, I'm somewhat concerned with how my avatar looks in game, but moreso with how bad-ass he looks armor/weapon-wise than anything like that. And I mean, no matter how ugly the creature you choose to play (even Dranei ugly), it's not going to hurt your eyes. That's sort of an exageration.
These are just my opinions based on my standards of attractiveness. For those of you able to look past this and play an 'ugly' character, you have my respect and a bit of my envy as you are not so limited in what you allow yourself to play.
Woot. :p
Erisian
01-04-2006, 12:33 PM
I always played as a troll in hopes that someday I'd be able to start the first ever Trollish Bobsled Team.
Feel da rhythm, feel da rhyme.
Spigot
01-04-2006, 02:11 PM
I just like my little gnome because of the freaky goggles I made for him and his crazy hair.
Remember that famous gnomish battle-cry: A GNOME'S LIFE IS A SHORT ONE!
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7838/61/1024/guboo54.jpg
That said, I don't really mind whether the ass is nice to look at or not. If the character looks neat and has some crazy cool gear on, I'm just as happy. Granted, I'm also the kind of geek that watches a Shania Twain video and is more excited about the crazy robot chasing her than Shania herself... Sigh.
AND... before I get people complaining that I'm playing a 'pretty' Alliance race, I want to say in my defence that I really want to play as an undead but all of my buddies are Alliance and don't seem to play Horde much. Sigh.
TheKeck
01-04-2006, 02:47 PM
They're only undesirable to stupid people who are overly concerned with how 'pretty' their avatar looks. And if you look around, the Horde actually IS outnumbered on most servers because there are a lot of people apt not to play any Horde races for looks. It's silly. I don't think their goal is for no one to play it, though, it's just to give Alliance an ugly race. Ugly only equals unplayable to morons. Sadly, lots of morosn play WoW.
Yeah, I'm not arguing about that. I was just saying that if Blizzard chose to make the new race Drenai, I believe it is because they think it'll be a cool race. Many people are saying that they would be doing it in order to balance the number of Alliance and Horde players.
Kefkataran
01-04-2006, 04:02 PM
Yeah, I'm not arguing about that. I was just saying that if Blizzard chose to make the new race Drenai, I believe it is because they think it'll be a cool race. Many people are saying that they would be doing it in order to balance the number of Alliance and Horde players.
I'm willing to agree to that, yeah. I'm sure the devs honestly do think there's a good, cool reason to add them as far as story and experience goes.
Ghoulie
01-21-2006, 09:07 PM
I play Horde. I couldn't care less what the alliance race is. Just think, how would a mermaid ride a bike? How would a Draenei or Worgen hold a sword? Why would the Pandaren go to alliance? Ask yourself all these questions and it all comes down to one thing.
The new alliance race is gonna be Murlocs!
Just imagine the mount...Just imagine the murloc voice saying, "Not enough mana!" and other phrases.
Well anywho...it would make sense for there to be no alliance race also.
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