Battlefield 2: Modern Combat Live! Downloads

[Evil Avatar]

Gamespot is reporting (http://www.gamespot.com/pages/news/story.php?sid=6141600) that tomorrow Electronic Arts will release a free update for the Xbox version of Battlefield 2: Modern Combat.

Electronic Arts is helping gamers satisfy their need to expand their bloodlust with the Warsome Booster Pack for the Xbox version of Battlefield 2: Modern Combat. The new add-on will include three new maps--a new take on Wake Island, the "wilds of the Middle East," and the snowcapped landscape of China. The pack also adds new vehicles, such as attack snowmobiles, and skins for characters. The holiday spirit is apparently with the publisher, which is giving the pack away for free via Xbox Live on December 22--a $9.99 value, according to EA.Evil Avatar.com sources have also revealed that a version of Battlefield 2 is currently in development for the Xbox 360.

[Gerbs]

Wasn't that 360 version announced months ago? Or did I dream that up, perhaps in an Arby's induced delusion?

[Genital Eclipse]

Wasn't that 360 version announced months ago? Or did I dream that up, perhaps in an Arby's induced delusion?

Sweet jesus, you just referenced Arby's in your reply.

I love you.

[Evil Avatar]

Wasn't that 360 version announced months ago? Or did I dream that up, perhaps in an Arby's induced delusion?

I'm not sure it has been officially announced yet. Still, it is worth mentioning since I'm sure a lot of people will want to pick it up when it comes out next year.

[Adam Blue]

Yeah it has been officially announced. The original release date was launch, but from what I've seen recently, they are re-working the game for the 360.

[Gerbs]

I thought it was pretty hot on Xbox, but I was short on cash and couldn't pick it up. Hopefully the 360 version will be just as good, but with a side of curly fries.

[Frogleg Special]

360 version -> Battlefield 2 Modern Combat.

[Evil Avatar]

360 version -> Battlefield 2 Modern Combat.

I don't think that is the case, because if that was all they were doing they could just pay Microsoft to update the emulator to support it.

I'm guessing that the 360 version is a port of Battlefield 2.

[Adam Blue]

The graphics for the 360 version look pretty effin hot. Better than BF2 PC from what I've seen.

[Borys]

Evil Avatar.com sources have also revealed that a version of Battlefield 2 is currently in development for the Xbox 360.

Borys Szachowalow.com sources have revealed that the PC version is out for 8 months already, sold over 2 M copies and nobody gives a shit about a downgraded, 2 years late console port. For evidence see: BF2MC, Far Cry Instincts, Doom 3, HL2 etc. for Xbox 1.

[Evil Avatar]

Borys Szachowalow.com sources have revealed that the PC version is out for 8 months already, sold over 2 M copies and nobody gives a shit about a downgraded, 2 years late console port. For evidence see: BF2MC, Far Cry Instincts, Doom 3, HL2 etc. for Xbox 1.

Such a narrow minded view, I thought you were smarter than that.

They wouldn't do these console ports if there wasn't good money in it - there are a ton of people out there (millions of them) who don't even own PC's.

And how do you know that the 360 version isn't upgraded over the PC version? Once you start developing for a unified platform, you can do all kinds of graphical tricks.

The graphical chipset in the Xbox 360 is roughly equal to two GeForce 6800 cards running in SLI mode, that is a hell of a lot more horsepower than the average PC owner has.

[Borys]

Such a narrow minded view, I thought you were smarter than that.

You keep on taking cheap shots at the PCs all the time. I can do the same you know, but aimed at Xbox 360.

You know that PC ports, and even more late PC ports, do not usually sell well on a console. CoD2 is an exception because it is... a launch titles. Launch titles sell becuse people have to play SOMETHING on their new toy.

there are a ton of people out there (millions of them) who don't even own PC's.

And the same MILLIONS do own a 360, right? Please...

[Wyrm]

I dont see any problem with Call of Duty 2 being a launch title. I dont have a 360 myself, but I'd have it on there if I did have one. It's not just "Something to play" on the new toy. It's actually a pretty fun game.

I think it's safe to say that BF2 will be a top seller on the 360 because it is a really fun game. If EA can iron out the bugs and make a good match making system, it will be an awesome alternative for people that arent able to buy a 1600$$ PC to have the thing running at 60 fps.

And I think that Evil's comment about people not owning PCs was directed at just that. The high price of a PC that can run the game reasonably as compared to the relatively low cost of something that can run it much better.

I see no problem embracing the xbox 360 for what it is, and it's here now, whereas the other new age systems are not.

[Borys]

I'll take that bet, Wyrm.

It won't be a top seller just like for example Quake 4 isn't.

And spare that $1600 comment, please.

[Evil Avatar]

You keep on taking cheap shots at the PCs all the time. I can do the same you know, but aimed at Xbox 360.

So, now the only posts you are going to make are just a PC vs. Console pissing contest? Lame.

I take shots at the PC because PC's are expensive as all hell and the games usually require 2 - 3 patch files just to get to the point where you can play the game from start to end without running into some major show-stopping bug. It is a crappy platform. It has always been a crappy platform, it was just that for a long time it was the only way to play games with 3D Acceleration and/or online gameplay. That isn't true any more.

Hug your PC all you want - Consoles are now the dominant gaming platform. (In terms of sales, I guess they always were, but until the launch of the Playstation 2 and Xbox the PC always had the better graphics.)

As for Millions of Xbox 360's... you are talking about a platform that totally sells out within seconds of being stocked. By the end of 2006 they will have sold Millions of systems, making it a very viable platform for new releases.

The average PC game sells like 200,000 copies (or less). With that in mind you can easily see that a really good game, like a Call of Duty 2 or Battlefield 2, will outsell most of the other PC games on the market when it is released on the Xbox 360 - even at this early stage in the system launch. By the end of 2006, I wouldn't be suprised if we see our first million+ selling title on the 360. (I would guess that would be Halo 3.)

[Demize99]

There's no doubt PC gaming is in decline, due at least in part to the success of console multiplayer. I still think it has a lot to offer consumers and its not going anywhere soon I assure you. DICE, like many developers, see's the benefit from moving their franchise towards console gamers for many reasons. We love making games, and the more people that play them, the more games we can make.

[Paranoia]

Borys Szachowalow.com sources have revealed that the PC version is out for 8 months already, sold over 2 M copies and nobody gives a shit about a downgraded, 2 years late console port.

PC fanboys should stop living in their own little world.

[phantomhitman]

Borys Szachowalow.com sources have revealed that the PC version is out for 8 months already, sold over 2 M copies and nobody gives a shit about a downgraded, 2 years late console port. For evidence see: BF2MC, Far Cry Instincts, Doom 3, HL2 etc. for Xbox 1.

This just in from yourafuckingidiot.org, a video game is a video game. They also announced that people should stop bitching about different consoles, games, and pcs so they could actually play more games.

This whole debate could, and probably will, rage on for the next 5 or so pages. If you like bananas, then eat the fucking things and leave me and my apple alone.

[Evil Avatar]

PC fanboys should stop living in their own little world.

Borys is a good guy and a long-time reader, and he is right that was my second comment ragging on the PC this week (I haven't said much about the PC vs. Console thing in months and months really...).

I was just kind of put off by Next Generation's article talking about how PC Gaming isn't Dead and then they only named like 4 games. I could name ten 5 Million+ selling console titles without trying and I don't even pay that much attention to sales figures. I doubt there were even three million+ selling PC titles last year.

(Personally, I don't see F.E.A.R. as breaking much more than 300k because of the high system requirements and that it is a new franchise. Civilization IV? Wasn't Civ III only an average selling title? Even DOOM 3 didn't move any 7 Million copies like Halo 2 did.)

[Gaz]

Arguments like this make me depressed... Is there anyone else out there that doesn't define a game by the platform it's on but me? I'll play anything so long as the game itself is entertaining, I would gladly go back and play DOS games, NES games, whatever so long as there was a level of entertainment value to it. Product age, release platform and specification are used far too bloody often as indicators of quality, and it's rather shameful. Oh, yeah... The PC isn't a gaming platform. Some people seem to have forgotten that a Personal Computer is capable of doing a lot of other things. Like taxes. And browsing the Internet. And downloading music. And streaming video. And writing applications. And designing ornamental teapots. And composing music. And performing remote surgery. And creating console games. And drawing works of art. And reading refrence material online. And... Okay, I think you get the idea. The PC isn't a gaming platform, it just happens to be one of the guises that a PC takes.

And Evil? The 360 graphical chip is a next-generation graphical chipset. It's proberbly better than two 7800 GTX's in SLI, but definatly better than a couple of 6800's.

[Taco]

Haven't bought it, won't buy it. I'm not on a EA boycott or anything, but I think I would of purchased it by now if EA was not involved. It's gotten to the point that the EA logo is simply a turnoff for me, without even trying to foster that point of view.

[Taco]

And Evil? The 360 graphical chip is a next-generation graphical chipset. It's proberbly better than two 7800 GTX's in SLI, but definatly better than a couple of 6800's.

I don't know what about the titles out there right now leads you to believe that. Just because you can label something "next-generation" doesn't make it true.

[bapenguin]

You can't really compare the 360's graphical power to anything out there because it's a complete redesign from the ground up of a graphics chip. You can't simply say it's equal to 2 of this, or 1 of that. It's like saying my Ferrari is more powerful than your Speedboat.

[Borys]

Borys is a good guy and a long-time reader, and he is right that was my second comment ragging on the PC this week (I haven't said much about the PC vs. Console thing in months and months really...).

I am not worthy, my liege.

I'll just shut up ATM and wait & see how big this BF2 for the console will be.

I think it won't be as popular as on the PC for many reasons. Last but not least of them is the Halo 3 wait.

Now if you'd ask me whether Halo 3 be a success or not...

2M copies (including preorders) in one week - mark my words. Pair it with Halo The Movie opening and "BOOM!" you got a bestselling record.

[Montolio]

Sweet jesus, you just referenced Arby's in your reply.

I love you.


Same here!

[UnderHero5]

The big problem I see with a console version of BF2 is this....
PC = 64 players. Console = 32 IF LUCKY.

You simply can't rent dedicated servers for console games. IF there are large servers they will need to be hosted by EA themselves.... which is unlikely to happen. People don't have the bandwidth to host large servers on their home connections.

That is one thing PC's will have over consoles until they start using PC's as servers for console games.... and if that's the case you're still using PC's.... so... yeah...

The big fun in BF2 is the large scale battles and maps. It's just more fun with more people (64 player servers)... Most consoles games are limited to 16 players online, from what I've seen.

[Adam Blue]

Wll PD0 planned on having 64 players until Microsoft had Rare rush it....and BF2 on the 360 is more of an upgrade than a port, so I wouldn't be surprised. The only reason 64 players wouldn't work is if EA fucked up the online portion....which is almost a guarantee.

[Gaz]

You can't really compare the 360's graphical power to anything out there because it's a complete redesign from the ground up of a graphics chip.

It's not. There's nothing more to say on the matter, but it hasn't been redesigned from the ground up, it's still very similar to the graphical chip you might find in your PC. Also, Taco, I did use the term "Next Generation" rather liberally, but I mean it's a step on from the current set of PC cards available. As for the current titles... They're not going to make full use of the chipset now, are they? They won't with the PS3, nor the Revolution, and they didn't with the PS2, Xbox or Gamecube. Initial titles aren't really a good estimate of the quality of a system.

[Taco]

And by the time they do make use of it what will the PC be capable of?

[Gaz]

Heh... Naturally, there will be PC's capable of outpowering the next generation of consoles before then, I wouldn't have thought me, of all people, would have to tell you that :)

[Taco]

So the point is at no time will the PC not have a performance lead. The most the 360 will ever have is it's current theoretical edge. That wasn't the case so much with the last generation and I find it interesting. I had assumed this would be the year they blew by the PC with MS and Sony going at it like they are.

[Wyrm]

I think that running Call of Duty at high definition at 60 FPS is pretty impressive.

Your average 360 owner has probably never seen anything that looks nearly that good. Of course, the average owner probably doesnt have HD capabilities, but they still probably havent seen a game that looks that good and plays that smooth. I still think Need for Speed Most Wanted looks breath taking on that system. Perfect Dark's environments look awesome, but the characters look like ass.

The point is, I'm under the impression that the next wave of games will look 3 times better, and I'm excited to see what all they do with the 360.

[bapenguin]

It's not. There's nothing more to say on the matter, but it hasn't been redesigned from the ground up, it's still very similar to the graphical chip you might find in your PC. Also, Taco, I did use the term "Next Generation" rather liberally, but I mean it's a step on from the current set of PC cards available. As for the current titles... They're not going to make full use of the chipset now, are they? They won't with the PS3, nor the Revolution, and they didn't with the PS2, Xbox or Gamecube. Initial titles aren't really a good estimate of the quality of a system.

If you followed any of the coverage before the launch, ATI said Microsoft came to them and said, "Build us a GPU, do it anyway you want"

It is similar in purpose, but it's architecture is quite different.

Check out this Anandtech (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2453&p=7) article.Weighing in at 332M transistors, the Xbox 360 GPU is quite a powerful part, but its architecture differs from that of current desktop graphics hardware. For years, vertex and pixel shader hardware have been implemented separately, but ATI has sought to combine their functionality in a unified shader architecture.

There's numerous other things mentioned in the article like the use of two dies, the EDRAM, etc.

Again...maybe a better analogy is an Power PC chip compared to an Intel Chip. Both serve the same purpose but how they accomplish it is different.

[gamer4life]

The big problem I see with a console version of BF2 is this....
PC = 64 players. Console = 32 IF LUCKY.

teamxbox (http://www.teamxbox.com/) has it posted that it will have up to 50 (http://games.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1322/Battlefield-2-Modern-Combat/) player online support, but it is still to early to say for sure.

[mister_slim]

I could name ten 5 Million+ selling console titles without trying and I don't even pay that much attention to sales figures.
Please do.

[UnderHero5]

teamxbox (http://www.teamxbox.com/) has it posted that it will have up to 50 (http://games.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1322/Battlefield-2-Modern-Combat/) player online support, but it is still to early to say for sure.

Umm... you realise the link you used states 24 player online battles, right?

"Battlefield 2: Modern Combat also delivers the Battlefield franchise's trademark multiplayer action, delivering fierce 24 player online battles."

Just pointing that out.

[gamer4life]

Umm... you realise the link you used states 24 player online battles, right?

"Battlefield 2: Modern Combat also delivers the Battlefield franchise's trademark multiplayer action, delivering fierce 24 player online battles."

Just pointing that out.

mybad when I posted I was only looking at the chart on the bottom that says 1-50. I must have skipped over that part when I read the description of the game. :o

[Gaz]

It is similar in purpose, but it's architecture is quite different.

Heh, conflicts in meaning... Sorry about that, I see what you mean.