View Full Version : Users Say Last Remnant "Unplayable" on PC
Virtuoso
03-20-2009, 02:23 PM
Europe has received The Last Remnant on PC today, and users are reporting problems (http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/20/users-say-the-last-remnant-unplayable-on-pc/).
According to reports, the game cannot be played nor installed because of Steam, despite the fact it’s not even suppose to hit the Valve download service until April 9.
The game has to be activated by entering a code off the back of the manual. The activation process is through Steam, which is giving would-be players the following message:
“The Last Remnant has not been officially released, and cannot be unlocked at this time. Please check Steam news to find out the release time. Steam will notify you when the game becomes unlocked.”
Steam is obviously not a foolproof system.
TheBot
03-20-2009, 02:43 PM
Haw Haw!!!
Druxk
03-20-2009, 02:52 PM
Man, I bet those five people are pissed.
modeps
03-20-2009, 03:00 PM
Steam is obviously not a foolproof system.
I'd say this has less to do with Steam itself, and more to do with coordination between the publisher and Valve.
Yeah; this just seems like a gross oversite on either Square Enix Europe or Valves end; i'm wondering which one.
I played the Last Remnant demo on steam a week or two ago; and it convinced me to pick up the game... whenever it does launch.
ElfShotTheFood
03-20-2009, 03:04 PM
Maybe it was a release date screw-up and the game was on store shelves before it was supposed to be?
Jadedgamer
03-20-2009, 04:08 PM
As God is my witness I will NEVER buy ANYTHING that needs Steam to run. This is way the hell outa line. Online authentication to play a GAME? Who do these people think they are?
I think all those folks who bought Warhammer 40K Dawn of War II are nuts. We need to send a message.
Sarconix
03-20-2009, 04:28 PM
I think all those folks who bought Warhammer 40K Dawn of War II are nuts. We need to send a message.
<raises hand>
Uh... I bought DoW2, and also Left 4 Dead. Loving both of them, no problems running them. Also, I rebuilt my machine last weekend, and Steam made the re-install process very easy.
Spooky
03-20-2009, 04:37 PM
<raises hand>
Uh... I bought DoW2, and also Left 4 Dead. Loving both of them, no problems running them. Also, I rebuilt my machine last weekend, and Steam made the re-install process very easy.
Seconded. I'll add Empire: Total War, TF 2, Brothers in Arms, Crysis/Crysis Warhead and about half a dozen games to that list. Steam is bad ass, most of the complaints are, as usual, user error.
Wombat
03-20-2009, 05:50 PM
Yeah, I didn't always like Steam, mainly because I only had dial up when Half-Life 2 came out, and even buying retail, it took all day to install. Now however, I love it. I got both DOW II and Empire: Total War, and not having to worry about disks, and run them whenever I want, on whatever machine I want is just great.
There seems to be this air of animosity in any steam related thread these days. There never used to be.
CitizenZero
03-20-2009, 06:35 PM
I don't have any complaints about having to activate a game through Steam. I buy 90% of my games from there anyway. And if it's not on there yet, just give it some time and it will be.
the Jack
03-20-2009, 07:16 PM
There seems to be this air of animosity in any steam related thread these days. There never used to be.
That's just troll-farts. Light a match. :D
There seems to be this air of animosity in any steam related thread these days. There never used to be.
It's important to hate things that are popular.
It makes you unique!
It's even MORE important to make sure you hate things where hating them is popular. It makes you feel like you have friends!
eilaw
03-20-2009, 11:15 PM
I like Steam as long as I'm living in North America and have broadband. It was a pain trying to buy stuff when I was living temporarily in China though, but whenever there's been a glitch, the problems were resolved pretty quickly. Steam gets my seal of approval so far.
Azriel77
03-20-2009, 11:45 PM
I love steam when I buy games through steam. However, buying a game at retail is another matter. I expect a game to run WITHOUT an internet connection when I play a retail game. This is crossing a line, game makers are doing it wrong, give people a choice and people will migrate to steam at their pace, forcing people to use it (or god forbid, games for windows live) is just telling people to pirate their games. Arguing whether its right or wrong is irrelevant, it is just what people will do (look at the DRM fiasko securvirus did).
Valkyrist
03-21-2009, 03:30 AM
I agree 100% with Azriel.
If I buy a physical copy of a game through a retail store, I should not be required activate it online. Especially when it is a game that is not focused on online play. It smacks of asinine DRM-type thinking, and I put it up there with the likes of SecureRom.
If I buy it directly online, though something like Steam, I totally expect some kind of activation like this. But NOT store-bought copies.
alienchild
03-21-2009, 04:08 AM
I just hope this doesn't sour the Valve -> Squeenix relationship, as I would love to see many many more releases from them no Steam. Starting with their entire back catalogue going back to PSX.
HarverdGrad
03-21-2009, 04:56 AM
If the majority of the people in the world had any integrity, we wouldn't have a need for these kinds of systems.
If the majority of the people in the world had any integrity, we wouldn't have a need for these kinds of systems.
people "without integrity", as you like to call them, do not have any problem playing this, while valid retail consumers are again taking the dump.
on another note: i love me my steam, but there is clearly a line for me between games i decided to buy digitally and those at retail. a retail product that requires online activation (and via steam account binding ?) dies in my (sad little) world quite quickly.
Demo_Boy
03-21-2009, 07:45 AM
Isn't Remnant a SP game?
What's with the authrentication to play SP mode?
Vulture
03-21-2009, 03:56 PM
Isn't Remnant a SP game?
What's with the authrentication to play SP mode?
That would be the Anti Piracy DRM. And STEAM helped!
HarverdGrad
03-21-2009, 03:56 PM
people "without integrity", as you like to call them, do not have any problem playing this, while valid retail consumers are again taking the dump.
This doesn't make sense
Valkyrist
03-21-2009, 10:17 PM
This doesn't make sense
He means that cracked (see: Illegal) copies of the game would not require you to do an online activation through steam. Only legal copies.
His point being that, once again, law-abiding customers who actually buy their games get screwed up the ass by DRM, while the pirates laugh their asses off while watching their bittorrent files download.
williambraski
03-22-2009, 09:03 AM
Talk about over reacting. The Steam release is set for April 9th. Is it April 9th yet?
If someone wants to play it on PC they can go buy the DVD. Steam avoided. Stop whining.
nihill
03-22-2009, 11:52 AM
Talk about over reacting. The Steam release is set for April 9th. Is it April 9th yet?
If someone wants to play it on PC they can go buy the DVD. Steam avoided. Stop whining.
Yeah, this is the problem. People who didn't buy from Steam are getting errors when they try to play this single player game because steam hasn't released the game yet.
I don't mind steam, but I did by a DVD copy of DoW2 and then had to reinstall my OS a few days later. Steam wouldn't validate my copy, apparently because I'd played a beta on Steam and it had that code entered rather than my retail code (and there is no way to re-enter a code). Steam support was completely non-existent, hadn't replied to a case at all yet 5 days after the fact. The whole experience made me really cautious about Steam in general. Hearing this certainly doesn't help.
Sarconix
03-23-2009, 12:41 AM
I don't mind steam, but I did by a DVD copy of DoW2 and then had to reinstall my OS a few days later. Steam wouldn't validate my copy, apparently because I'd played a beta on Steam and it had that code entered rather than my retail code (and there is no way to re-enter a code).
This is very strange. I also played the beta and bought a retail copy, and it was fine. Sorry I can't help, though.
I think the issue here is when retail purchased games require steam, especially if the purchaser doesn't have steam already installed.
Personally, I love steam, and buy the majority of my games through it. However, I have a couple of friends that have had minor annoyances with retail games that required steam auth. In fact, the only game I have bought retail that required steam was dark messiah of might and magic, and that was a disaster too (it installed from the CD and also from steam, so I had double the space used, not to mention the download!).
The sooner we ditch retail stores the better imho.
drakkarim
03-23-2009, 04:08 AM
It's important to hate things that are popular.
because obviously every popular thing is a 'good' thing.
some of us play our games for a finite time, or are only interested in singleplayer, and after we're done, we'd be idiots to just 'throw them away' or forget you ever bought it like steam expects you to.
so we like to sell what we buy, to buy more games. the day steam allows for that is the day i bend over for steam, until then, i will always find the service retarded.
Strider
03-23-2009, 06:45 AM
It's important to hate things that are popular.
It makes you unique!
It's even MORE important to make sure you hate things where hating them is popular. It makes you feel like you have friends!
I like to own things I buy, thank you very much.
The more people notice they are just renting stuff (for the price of a purchase), the more animosity there will be. It's just that people who dislike any kind of activation (as do I) had little weight against the huge steam hype at the beginning.
Strider
03-23-2009, 06:50 AM
Talk about over reacting. The Steam release is set for April 9th. Is it April 9th yet?
If someone wants to play it on PC they can go buy the DVD. Steam avoided. Stop whining.
Others have already answered you, but I thank you for putting this into good perspective.
If I go into a shop, and buy something (that does not require a online connection), I expect, no, demand to have full ownership of the product.
I like to own things I buy, thank you very much.
The more people notice they are just renting stuff (for the price of a purchase), the more animosity there will be. It's just that people who dislike any kind of activation (as do I) had little weight against the huge steam hype at the beginning.
The problem is that you simply ARE renting it. You do not "own" any games you have, or any music, or television shows, or movies. You are simply renting a license to play them at your leisure. You even agree to this, i know that i've "signed" a couple thousand EULAs in my lifetime.
If you want to "own" it, then create it your fucking self and apply for a copyright. Otherwise you'll always be out of luck.
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