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It's just been confirmed folks. Dave Perry is a nut. Westwood College recently held an event where they played host to some big names from the world of gaming. From PRWeb. (http://www.prweb.com/releases/Westwood_College/game_design/prweb2208644.htm)
"Because of its ease of use and ability to download quickly, Flash is the future of online gaming," said Dave Perry, co-founder of Acclaim Games. "The gaming student who develops the next best thing in flash will surely be a success," he added.
When asked how to get involved in the industry, gaming veteran and founder of WayForward, Voldi Way said , "To get your foot in the door you need a body of work to show prospective employers. There is no better way to build that book than through gaming competitions like the ones you'll find at Westwood College."
"Attendance at the Legends of Gaming event exceeded expectations, and the level at which people were engaged was very intense," said Lou Osborn, Westwood Anaheim Campus President. "Current and future students of gaming realized they had a unique opportunity to gain valuable insight into how they can get started on a career path they are passionate about, and we were proud to provide the opportunity," Osborn added.
This comes after a slew of comments Perry recently made regarding a possible PSP 2 and that he believes single-player gaming will die.
Scary.
ShooterMcgavin
03-06-2009, 05:31 AM
Flash is definitely king right now, but when the next version of Silverlight drops, we'll see. Silverlight is going to have native 3D capabilities built in, it already uses c# (the language of XBOX Live created games), and is already computationally more powerful than Flash (Flash is, however, quicker at actual rendering). So WE'LL SEEE, MR. PERRY
Vandenh
03-06-2009, 05:54 AM
Oh dear... if he had said flash-memory I would have agreed ;)
Flash is cool for quick games and rapid prototyping. Maybe even for Wii stuff, but forget anything serious. Can you make money with flash games? Yes. Is it the future? Nope.
drakkarim
03-06-2009, 06:26 AM
what do you want to bet Adobe was a sponsor of this fondle fest.
Demo_Boy
03-06-2009, 06:46 AM
Looking at Kongregate, you have amazing gamplay breadth for the Flash platform.
Also interesting is the rate of games coming out. It looks like the limits of the Flash platform are preventing developers from overscoping their games in time-consuming ways. Sort of a happy coincidence.
With the rise of netbooks and their limited capabilities, PC may trend as Perry describes. Meanwhile the Wii's massive popularity on the console side may be cooling publishers' demand for multiplayer features in console games.
However I don't see console multiplayer on 360/PS3 going away - I see continued growth there as well.
Demo_Boy
03-06-2009, 07:08 AM
oh and one more problem. monetizing a flash game will be really hard, since theres so many decent free flash games available
Johan
03-06-2009, 07:11 AM
I don't care what you wrap the games in, as long as there are a few out there that I enjoy.
DeuceMojo
03-06-2009, 07:20 AM
Oh dear... if he had said flash-memory I would have agreed ;)Hah, that's what I thought he meant when I clicked on this thread. Flash games, yeah, 'cause I'm gonna pay cash money for Mirror's Edge 2D, right?
Dave Perry is no nut, sir. Not unless the OED changed the definition of "nut" to "gigantic rubbery dildo that spouts dumb shit."
Venkman
03-06-2009, 07:22 AM
Dave Perry: "I can't remember the last time I made a good game, instead of just talking about it."
jBusy
03-06-2009, 07:40 AM
oh and one more problem. monetizing a flash game will be really hard, since theres so many decent free flash games available
Flash games make their money through ad revenue or micropayments. They may be free, but you can still make money from them.
Flash is definitely king right now, but when the next version of Silverlight drops, we'll see.
Until a significant amount of people have silverlight on their machines, people will keep working with flash.
Evil Avatar
03-06-2009, 07:45 AM
Dave Perry is the new Jack Thompson.
B_Money
03-06-2009, 07:58 AM
At first I thought it said "flesh is the future of online gaming" and I was really interested. Now, not so much.
Roc Ingersol
03-06-2009, 08:08 AM
Flash isn't the future of anything. Its days are numbered.
As HTML5 support rolls out and mobile becomes a bigger deal, normal sites will use Flash less.
As companies like iD move in, dedicated plug-ins will get used more.
I mean, there's no real benefit to Popcap using Flash other than: it exists and it works well enough. Whether the user already has the plug-in or not isn't a very big deal. It's not 1998 anymore.
Once there's an alternative that actually services game developers and does things like UDP networking, professional webgame devs will leave Flash.
LilAbner
03-06-2009, 08:41 AM
Dave Perry is the new Jack Thompson.
LOL! I was just going to say this but ya beat me to it EvAv!
DeuceMojo
03-06-2009, 09:51 AM
Dave Perry is the new Jack Thompson.Last big shit-talking fest we had about Dave Perry, I said I'd rather drink with Jack Thompson than Dave perry. And it's true.
One guy is a lawyer, (though I guess maybe he doesn't have much of a law career left) has a history of pursuing sensational, famous lawsuits, and has mingled with Janet Reno and other power brokers.
The other guy thinks he's a cross between Steve Jobs and Stephen Hawking, looks like he belongs in Color Me Badd, and says the most inane shit that nobody cares about.
Seriously, who would you drink with?
He's not crazy. Say what you like. More an more grads are turning to flash for demos and portfolios, especially in design. And it works.
4 years ago a friend said to me that Flash will be the future of games, I thought nothing of it. As the time has gone by its slowly happening.
Flash is a far more formiddable presence in games than people give it credit for.
But if it's happening in the present then it's not the future.
Don't fuck with the continuum.
DeuceMojo
03-06-2009, 01:13 PM
He's not crazy. Say what you like. More an more grads are turning to flash for demos and portfolios, especially in design. And it works.I have no doubt. JMTB02 has some sweet Flash games on his site and what he did in his spare time scored him a job as head of development for a games publisher.
That being said, JMTB02 is a hardcore 360 gamer too. Do you see any Flash games there? Consoles, like it or not, are where the money is. Little PC flash titles are fun, but more as like a promo thing or a quick time killer.
I want Uwe Boll to take on Dave Perry in a boxing match.
Virtuoso
03-06-2009, 01:26 PM
Regardless of the truth of the statement, Perry always finds the most in your face way to phrase anything.
alienchild
03-06-2009, 01:52 PM
This fucker is on dope. Dope sponsored by Adobe, nonetheless. Let's see if we can beat Dave Perry in being Dave Perry. Here's a few predictions of my own;
* WoW will loose all of their userbase to Age of Conan.
* Gaming as a whole will move towards interactive CD-based movies.
* The Next Big Thing will be a jerk-off game for the Wii. It will only utilize the Classic controller though.
* Beer will stop selling.
TeeCakes
03-06-2009, 02:44 PM
Shitty flash games have been around for the last two years now-- if anybody was gonna 'revolutionize' the online gaming sector with flash it would've been done twice over by now.
Dave Perry needs to STFU and make an Earthworm Jim sequel, dagnabit.
Virtuoso
03-06-2009, 03:11 PM
Shitty flash games have been around for the last two years now-- if anybody was gonna 'revolutionize' the online gaming sector with flash it would've been done twice over by now.
Dave Perry needs to STFU and make an Earthworm Jim sequel, dagnabit.
On the other hand there are quite a few awesome flash games as well.
Two Words: Madness Interactive
Sinistar
03-06-2009, 03:43 PM
When flash can top the games that I've seen on InstantAction.com - then I'll believe it.
Gaming doesnt start and end with consoles or 'shitty flash games'.
Look at popcap for an example. Popcap is laughing in the face of what 'core gamers' consider the mainstream market to be. If there isnt potential there, then im a monkeys uncle. He's not necessarily saying that Flash itself is the future, as a lot of people seem to think when people addressing this topic, but the direction that Flash has gone in.
Bargash
03-06-2009, 04:30 PM
Meanwhile the Wii's massive popularity on the console side may be cooling publishers' demand for multiplayer features in console games.
:confused:
Not sure where this comes from. 3 of the top 4 selling Wii titles feature multiplayer as a significant part of the game.
WII PLAY <--- Multi
WII FIT
MARIO KART <--- Multi
SUPER SMASH BROS: BRAWL <--- Multi
The top 3 3rd party franchises also feature it as a key component.
GUITAR HERO WORLD TOUR
ROCK BAND
WII MARIO AND SONIC: OLYMPIC GAMES
Furious Wang
03-06-2009, 08:51 PM
There's a shit ton of websites hosting a shit ton of adsponsored games trafficked by a shit ton of people.
There's a grand divergence occurring. In a few years the majority will be computing off of a netbook and running browser based apps like google, aviary, etc. and gaming from within firefox. There will always be a niche market for the top-end graphics powerhouse games. But the mass market of tomorrow does indeed lie within flash style games.
Furious Wang
03-06-2009, 08:53 PM
:confused:
Not sure where this comes from. 3 of the top 4 selling Wii titles feature multiplayer as a significant part of the game.
WII PLAY <--- Multi
WII FIT
MARIO KART <--- Multi
SUPER SMASH BROS: BRAWL <--- Multi
The top 3 3rd party franchises also feature it as a key component.
GUITAR HERO WORLD TOUR
ROCK BAND
WII MARIO AND SONIC: OLYMPIC GAMES
Seriously. The Wii was practically built around multiplayer gaming. Not "online" multiplayer, necessarily, but definitely "same room" multiplayer.
StANTo
03-07-2009, 04:21 AM
Dave Perry's Flash Revelations:
http://rockfree.acclaim.com/
http://kogamu.acclaim.com
Kinda poor.
TeeCakes
03-07-2009, 01:56 PM
Gaming doesnt start and end with consoles or 'shitty flash games'.
Look at popcap for an example. Popcap is laughing in the face of what 'core gamers' consider the mainstream market to be. If there isnt potential there, then im a monkeys uncle. He's not necessarily saying that Flash itself is the future, as a lot of people seem to think when people addressing this topic, but the direction that Flash has gone in.
I strongly disagree with the notion that "Bejeweled" will end up being the game that makes Roger Ebert concede that games are "art". But viva la Flash revolucion!! :rolleyes:
I strongly disagree with the notion that "Bejeweled" will end up being the game that makes Roger Ebert concede that games are "art". But viva la Flash revolucion!! :rolleyes:
I think you entirely missed the point.
TeeCakes
03-08-2009, 02:05 PM
I think you entirely missed the point.
If Perry's "point" was that online Flash games are a cheap and easy way to make a fast buck off the casual gaming boom, then no I understand him perfectly.
Rather, I think you're refusing to comprehend MY point, on the other hand. A 'less=more' approach to gaming may be financially successful in the short-term, but shouldn't be seen as the "future" of the gaming industry by any means.
If Perry's "point" was that online Flash games are a cheap and easy way to make a fast buck off the casual gaming boom, then no I understand him perfectly.
Rather, I think you're refusing to comprehend MY point, on the other hand. A 'less=more' approach to gaming may be financially successful in the short-term, but shouldn't be seen as the "future" of the gaming industry by any means.
Um, no, I get your point, you fail to get Perrys point and my point. And your point is not what he is saying.
Both being that, considering the platform that is most widely available to consumers arent beefed up PCs or consoles and that flash is a piece of technology that can run on almost anything, is accessible and with little overhead (financially and technically).
No your right, something like the PS3 is the future :rolleyes:
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