View Full Version : Discrimination Suit Filed Against Best Buy
fitbabits
12-09-2005, 07:13 AM
Next Generation (http://www.next-gen.biz) has the details (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1841&Itemid=2).
Retailer Best Buy is being sued by six employees who are alleging that the company excludes women and minorities from top jobs.
Cheryl Chappel, a 48-year-old black woman, who works for a Best Buy in San Diego said, "I was told by several managers that I didn't need to be on the sales floor. I was told females can't sell."
I can only speak for my local Best Buy, but the staff diversity in that particular store (Durham, NC) is commendable. And get this, the so-called minority employees have always been more approachable and helpful than their white counterparts, whether they be male or female.
bradlay
12-09-2005, 07:15 AM
And get this, the so-called minority employees have always been more approachable and helpful than their white counterparts, whether they be male or female.[/I]
GASP! WTF does this have to do with video games.
joruussuun
12-09-2005, 07:16 AM
Best Buy has to do with video games...
Um... Kill Whitey?
fitbabits
12-09-2005, 07:17 AM
GASP! WTF does this have to do with video games.
I'm not sure if you've ever stepped foot inside a Best Buy, but they are one of the bigger brick-and-mortar stores that have a very prominent place in the retail sector for videogames.
And you may want to suck on an albuterol inhaler - you appear to be very short of breath.
Next Generation (http://www.next-gen.biz) has the details (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1841&Itemid=2).
I can only speak for my local Best Buy, but the staff diversity in that particular store (Durham, NC) is commendable. And get this, the so-called minority employees have always been more approachable and helpful than their white counterparts, whether they be male or female.
Dont be so rasist!
fitbabits
12-09-2005, 07:26 AM
Dont be so rasist!
Must...resist... Can't...
*shudder*
joruussuun
12-09-2005, 07:27 AM
Dont be so rasist!
Sorry... spelling nazi... it's 'racist'. My apologies if English is your second language.
Xerxes
12-09-2005, 07:28 AM
Must be just her local Best Buy. Nothing to really get bent out of shape about. Although I think it is less of them on the floor and most cases. Truth be told I'd rather go into a store full of knowledgeable chicks working the floor than some dude who makes up shit for a sell. Then acts like my friend. For one you don't jack shit about this game and you ain't me so don't tell me you like it dumbass. It's like dismissed when i ask about a shitty game and they all like yeah that good. Kick rocks SALESMAN. Fucking losers.
Make fun of my spelling all you want. I just want this kid to stop demonizing white people.
fitbabits
12-09-2005, 07:33 AM
Make fun of my spelling all you want. I just want this kid to stop demonizing white people.
w00t! Are you referring to me? I have 16 years on you, sonny boy!
joruussuun
12-09-2005, 07:33 AM
Make fun of my spelling all you want. I just want this kid to stop demonizing white people.
Um... I wasn't 'making fun' of your spelling. I was just correcting it.
Demonizing white people? I am white... I don't feel demonized.
Xerxes
12-09-2005, 07:34 AM
I don't think they were being demonized. Just brought down to a level as all other humans, crappy and most instances.
EternalGamer
12-09-2005, 07:40 AM
I fear this new posting. It is a story only tangentially related to videogames and highly politically charged. It will only bring ugly people out of the woodworks that have very ugly things to say. Ugly things that have absolutely NO significance to the specificity of this case and whatever validity it might have. If I want to hear that type of generic political ranting I will watch FOX news, thanks. Ugh.
Dan
spacerat100
12-09-2005, 07:45 AM
Ginger Power! Ginger Power!
fitbabits
12-09-2005, 07:47 AM
I fear this new posting.
It's only natural to fear what you don't understand... :D
Citizen Philip
12-09-2005, 07:55 AM
I am not ugly.
What you said was very ugly, VERY UGLY INDEED.
Discrimination (sp) is bad, blanket attacking a kind of person is bad, blanket defending a kind of person is bad. A warm blanket on a bed is good.
Suicidal ShiZuru
12-09-2005, 08:00 AM
Well I never see many black sales people... All I know is one day when I bought a computer at Best Buy[not my money, not my computer] the sales woman, who was black, was fucking retarded. Im not going to bother explaining why she was so stupid but she definitley should not be selling computers... maybe there is a trend here...
LilAbner
12-09-2005, 08:06 AM
I work for BBuy....our manager makeup is as follows:
GM (store mgr): Black male
Sales mgr: white female
Sales mgr: white male
Business mgr: Vietnamese female
Operations mgr: white female
Inventory mgr: white male
Inventory mgr: white male
Home Office mgr: white female
Home theater mgr: mulatto male
Pretty good mix if you ask me.
Also, these people have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the suit.
EternalGamer
12-09-2005, 08:12 AM
I am not ugly.
What you said was very ugly, VERY UGLY INDEED.
Discrimination (sp) is bad, blanket attacking a kind of person is bad, blanket defending a kind of person is bad. A warm blanket on a bed is good.
I am not sure why you thought I was referring to you, specifically, unless you have some type of guilty conscience. I was talking about people that take every lawsuit that hits the news as an excuse to go on a political tirade that has no connection to the case at hand, which they know nothing about. If you have ever watched O'Reilly for 5 minutes or listened to Rush Limbaugh you would know exactly what I was talking about. And that comment is not directed at all political conservatives, because there are political conservates that are not bombastic and arrogant. But it is hard to locate them amongst the many followers of the aformentioned individuals, followers who like to stamp about all cocky and arrogant and shout hyperbole in immitation of their faux alpha male media heroes. These type of stories attract those people because they love t use them as a soapbox in the same way they use a store's holiday signage as one (see other conversations ongoing on this site).
Dan
total
12-09-2005, 08:12 AM
Home theater mgr: mulatto male
That's been a bad word since like, the late 80's. :eek:
Let's kill all the crackers. Heh. I'm all for any type of suit against Best Buy. I've had to deal with them longer, they had the start up in my home town.
carneconcarne
12-09-2005, 08:26 AM
jesus, you people come off sounding worse by even talking about this stuff. fitbabits says, get this (like it'll be hard for you to believe), black people were doing a better job than white people! Pretty amazing huh? Then LilAbner breaks out fucking "mulatto" while talking about how diverse his store is. What the hell.
fitbabits
12-09-2005, 08:30 AM
jesus, you people come off sounding worse by even talking about this stuff. fitbabits says, get this (like it'll be hard for you to believe), black people were doing a better job than white people! Pretty amazing huh? Then LilAbner breaks out fucking "mulatto" while talking about how diverse his store is. What the hell.
You know, it's dawning on me that some people refuse to be satisfied! The 'get this' comment was directed at the people who have stated in the past that the service they've received from African Americans or Hispanics or whatever racial background was inferior to the service they received from a white clerk.
Xerxes
12-09-2005, 08:31 AM
I work for BBuy....our manager makeup is as follows:
GM (store mgr): Black male
Sales mgr: white female
Sales mgr: white male
Business mgr: Vietnamese female
Operations mgr: white female
Inventory mgr: white male
Inventory mgr: white male
Home Office mgr: white female
Home theater mgr: mulatto male
Pretty good mix if you ask me.
Also, these people have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the suit.
Thats aint a good mix...Depends on the area for sure but damn... 6 whites, 1 black, 1 asian, and 1 mixed who probably checks black during the census. 5 males and 4 females. 25% of the females are nonwhite. This is a good mix... :confused:
RGetz
12-09-2005, 08:38 AM
You know, it's dawning on me that some people refuse to be satisfied! The 'get this' comment was directed at the people who have stated in the past that the service they've received from African Americans or Hispanics or whatever racial background was inferior to the service they received from a white clerk.
It's okay fitbabits, I understood.
I can't really speak for my local best buy, I find it a pain in the ass to get to and the prices aren't really any better then buying things online, but the times I do go there I remembering it being pretty much all white, then again I live in the suburbs of South Jersey which is pretty much all white...
carneconcarne
12-09-2005, 08:39 AM
You know, it's dawning on me that some people refuse to be satisfied! The 'get this' comment was directed at the people who have stated in the past that the service they've received from African Americans or Hispanics or whatever racial background was inferior to the service they received from a white clerk.
I understand, it just struck me as sounding bad, especially when I read it as the editor comment on the front page.
fitbabits
12-09-2005, 08:41 AM
I understand, it just struck me as sounding bad, especially when I read it as the editor comment on the front page.
When read in the context of the whole story, though, I think it is fairly clear why it's there. Granted, some people just look at the editorial content and cry foul without digging deeper - there's nothing I can do to prevent that from happening.
Citizen Philip
12-09-2005, 08:42 AM
I am not sure why you thought I was referring to you, specifically, unless you have some type of guilty conscience. I was talking about people that take every lawsuit that hits the news as an excuse to go on a political tirade that has no connection to the case at hand, which they know nothing about. If you have ever watched O'Reilly for 5 minutes or listened to Rush Limbaugh you would know exactly what I was talking about. And that comment is not directed at all political conservatives, because there are political conservates that are not bombastic and arrogant. But it is hard to locate them amongst the many followers of the aformentioned individuals, followers who like to stamp about all cocky and arrogant and shout hyperbole in immitation of their faux alpha male media heroes. These type of stories attract those people because they love t use them as a soapbox in the same way they use a store's holiday signage as one (see other conversations ongoing on this site).
Dan
I guess the the Zoolander comment was undetected, and I didn't have a smily face or sarcasm tags.
I'm very easy, if I am being serious, I tend to post more than a sentence. ;)
Cubfan
12-09-2005, 08:49 AM
jesus, you people come off sounding worse by even talking about this stuff. fitbabits says, get this (like it'll be hard for you to believe), black people were doing a better job than white people! Pretty amazing huh? Then LilAbner breaks out fucking "mulatto" while talking about how diverse his store is. What the hell.
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carneconcarne
12-09-2005, 08:53 AM
that's so bad
LilAbner
12-09-2005, 09:05 AM
Thats aint a good mix...Depends on the area for sure but damn... 6 whites, 1 black, 1 asian, and 1 mixed who probably checks black during the census. 5 males and 4 females. 25% of the females are nonwhite. This is a good mix... :confused:
Well, you have to remember that there are more white people in this country than any other color...so I believe this mix does a good job of representing the general racial makeup of the country. Granted, there's no Hispanics in there, but we have very few who live in Maryland and almost none working for our store.
And....the head of the store is black. I'm sure he'd disagree with the lawsuit.
AversionFX
12-09-2005, 09:08 AM
I swear, people these days who are denied for any reason, or ever inconvenienced always play the racial/sexual discrimination card.
Xerxes
12-09-2005, 09:14 AM
Well, you have to remember that there are more white people in this country than any other color...so I believe this mix does a good job of representing the general racial makeup of the country. Granted, there's no Hispanics in there, but we have very few who live in Maryland and almost none working for our store.
And....the head of the store is black. I'm sure he'd disagree with the lawsuit.
Hell the mix at my second job(linen and things) is better and it's in a white neighborhood.
Hijinx
12-09-2005, 09:24 AM
White counterparts.....
Another example of continuing the racial divide. :(
Not a knock Fit, but little things like this just keep the fire burning.
fitbabits
12-09-2005, 09:27 AM
White counterparts.....
Another example of continuing the racial divide. :(
Not a knock Fit, but little things like this just keep the fire burning.
Counterpart - One that has the same functions and characteristics as another; a corresponding person or thing.
total
12-09-2005, 09:30 AM
jesus, you people come off sounding worse by even talking about this stuff. fitbabits says, get this (like it'll be hard for you to believe), black people were doing a better job than white people! Pretty amazing huh? Then LilAbner breaks out fucking "mulatto" while talking about how diverse his store is. What the hell.
BWAHAHAHAHHAA
This comment had me falling out of my chair. I just love the way you stated that. "LilAbner breaks out fucking mulatto while talking about how diverse his store is." You rock dude, that was awesome. Just to try and cover for some people here. I live in Minnesota, and the racism that exists here is very under covers. People don't come right out and act racist, but once someone leaves the room the n word might fly. It sucks, but that is the midwest for you. Then again there are some people who don't have a racist bone in them and still use archaic words like melado, negro (typically very old people, 80's and such), or oriental.
My brother is black and I am white (same mom different dads, my dad raised us both) and when we brought my nephew up to my grandmas (she lives in a rural part of MN) she referred to him as, "the most beautiful negro baby she had ever seen." My brother didn't bat an eye because he knows she isn't the least bit racist but I told her that that word isn't really appropriate anymore. She asked if it was ok if she used melado and my brother told her he didn't care what she said as long as it wasn't the other n word. So I told her that mixed or black was ok and she felt really bad. Some people in rural parts of the States just don't get the exposure to minorities that people in larger cities do. It doesn't mean they are racist (don't get me wrong, there are plenty that are), it just means that they haven't had the same exposure.
kokyunage
12-09-2005, 09:41 AM
I swear, people these days who are denied for any reason, or ever inconvenienced always play the racial/sexual discrimination card.
Hey, let's not get rid if the race card. When white's are the minority in this country in 40 years I want to use it! "I'm being descriminated against!"
copasetic
12-09-2005, 09:43 AM
Hell the mix at my second job(linen and things) is better and it's in a white neighborhood.
Did you think that maybe its not a good mix? That's what people call reverse racism (what a redundant phrase). Maybe it's a coincidence, but you have to realize a good mix is one that is representative of the population (regional more likely). The one you criticize seems to be quite good actually.
p.s. well said, total.
Twinkie
12-09-2005, 09:55 AM
In LilAbner's defense, I have never heard Mulatto used in a hurtful way, around here it's just used as a casual way to describe someones heritage. My girlfriend is a self-professed mulatto (Native American and Irish).
Xerxes
12-09-2005, 10:09 AM
Did you think that maybe its not a good mix? That's what people call reverse racism (what a redundant phrase). Maybe it's a coincidence, but you have to realize a good mix is one that is representative of the population (regional more likely). The one you criticize seems to be quite good actually.
p.s. well said, total.
Is the minority the minority at the store? Yes. There is still more white employees at the store. But there 4 hispanic/latin employees, 4 black employees, 1 asian employee, and about 7 white employees so far. Few people I still haven't met there yet but that's a better mix than other place. And in Texas it's flipped recently if I'm not mistaken. Whites are a minority, not the majority. Reverse racism? That's cute.
Listen, I'm black, and I've learned that if you get up in arms over words-- negro, nigger, whatever--then you're just giving the racists what they want: a rise out of you. Once you learn they're JUST WORDS and they can't hurt you, then you get over their usage, especially on the internet. Then what you have to do is evaluate the person's intent when and how they used the word, which is easier in real life than on the internet, but because they used a "bad word" doesn't suddenly make them a High Priest in the KKK.
Plus, mulatto and negro aren't even considered bad words, but you people insist they are? Just because they were used in the past as a word for blacks and mixed blacks respectively doesn't mean that now in today's "civilized" world they're suddenly bad. I hate the term "African-American" more than any other "bad" word because it's a misnomer: I'm not African-American, I'm of African decent, and that's totally different. That's why racism still exists, because people are now trying to play nice instead of play equal, meaning you pussyfoot around minorities because you're afraid to insult them and/or look racist (affirmative action also comes to mind). Do you treat other whites that way, though? No. Then don't do it to minorities, and let the stupid shortsighted people whine and scream about racism and sexism all they want, even though you were treating them as an equal. If a trend begins of people actually treating each others as equals instead of pretending they do, then racism/sexism will diminish because people will stop thinking "oh, s/he's <race/gender> I'd better be careful about what I say around him/her" and teaching their kids those behavior patterns.
P.S. Reverse racism is a retarded term that theoretically doesn't mean whan it's used for: it's still racism if it's a minority being racist against whites, so still use the term "racism"
Shifteh
12-09-2005, 10:21 AM
What kind of moron thinks women can't SELL? Jesus, how many guys buy something they never would normally just to 'impress' a girl?
Heretic Machine
12-09-2005, 11:44 AM
Wait... women can't sell? Is that why they are in nearly every advertisment, sexual or not, in television, magazines, and radio? This lawsuit sounds like bullshit to me. Best Buy wants to make money, and they know men are more likely to buy from a twenty-something college co-ed than Harry the Computer Guy.
Paltry
12-09-2005, 04:03 PM
Anyone whining about the use of mulatto should go fuck themselves. We're all adults here, we know what it means, save your bullshit tacked on connotations. He didnt say Oreo, he didnt say mongrel, if he did then you could bitch. He said mulatto, which is a much clearer and concise despription than "someone of mixed race." Get over ourselves, its a word.
Paltry
12-09-2005, 04:08 PM
Just read your post opty
hear hear
You know, it's dawning on me that some people refuse to be satisfied! The 'get this' comment was directed at the people who have stated in the past that the service they've received from African Americans or Hispanics or whatever racial background was inferior to the service they received from a white clerk.
So now you are saying that the service white people give is inferior to those of other races? You need to be banned for being such an ignorant racist.
fitbabits
12-09-2005, 07:43 PM
So now you are saying that the service white people give is inferior to those of other races? You need to be banned for being such an ignorant racist.
Jeez Louise. Talk about missing the point. Seriously, if the point was a freakin' black hole you'd still miss it. I see nothing in my comments to indicate that I am in any way, shape or form racist.
That just makes you the worst kind of racist then.
bradlay
12-10-2005, 12:32 AM
Most people have no interest in history therefore have no interest in the history of racism. So, they don't give a god damn what stigma is applied to any word or attitude they just get annoyed by the inconvenience of having to consider their own thoughts or a single goddamn word that comes out of their mouths. Then of course they cry outrage at things like discrimination suits because it seemingly gives someone else an advantage they don't think they were given. Most people aren't racist, they're just too goddamn lazy, selfish and spoiled to consider that there are other people and a world that existed before they showed up. Then, they eat and usually... they breed.
fitbabits
12-10-2005, 07:28 AM
That just makes you the worst kind of racist then.
Okay, genius - explain why you think so instead of just hurling insults around.
blackzc
12-10-2005, 12:16 PM
Thats aint a good mix...Depends on the area for sure but damn... 6 whites, 1 black, 1 asian, and 1 mixed who probably checks black during the census. 5 males and 4 females. 25% of the females are nonwhite. This is a good mix... :confused:
WTF do you mean its not a good mix? blacks are 15% of the population veitnemese? Is that even 1%
how many should best buy have? 3? 4? half? That would be terribly dispraportionate, whats to be confused about?
I really hope you change your view on this. You really need to think abou it.
blackzc
12-10-2005, 12:35 PM
Most people have no interest in history therefore have no interest in the history of racism. So, they don't give a god damn what stigma is applied to any word or attitude they just get annoyed by the inconvenience of having to consider their own thoughts or a single goddamn word that comes out of their mouths. Then of course they cry outrage at things like discrimination suits because it seemingly gives someone else an advantage they don't think they were given. Most people aren't racist, they're just too goddamn lazy, selfish and spoiled to consider that there are other people and a world that existed before they showed up. Then, they eat and usually... they breed.
Dude just stop, these suites happen all the time nothing new, Heres what happens..... some black/asian/mullato ;) dude/chick goes into some store fills out an application and talks to somone from managment who is an asshole and prolly a lill racist (so what lifes a bitch)....so said dude/chick gets all butt hurt and decides its time to keep it real and sue someone for 50 mill.
These people make me sick and i want them to die. Im not lazy THEY!!! are the lazy ones moron. Whites have more opprotunites? Yeah sure,,thats because more white kids are born into money.Not me i was born ghetto ass broke and im getting by just like my black neighbors upstairs and next door to me.
Heres what im gonna do.....go down to the black owned barber shop down the road, fill out an ap get looked at funny and then sue those racist cock suckers when they dont hire me.
Or maybe i should just man up, keep my head up and go work for someone else, becuase why should i work for someone who hates corney ass krackers?
vornskr
12-10-2005, 02:04 PM
In LilAbner's defense, I have never heard Mulatto used in a hurtful way, around here it's just used as a casual way to describe someones heritage. My girlfriend is a self-professed mulatto (Native American and Irish).
Just a quick heads-up, mulatto is a term describing someone of mixed African and European decent. Native American-Europeans are known as "meztizos." These are both Spanish terms coined during their conquest of the Americas.
This isn't racist, its simple classification. Racism requires you actually put your classification above another in some way.
<edit>Oh ya, and this suit sounds fishy... what white male has the testicular fortitude to tell a middle-aged black woman her gender can't do something. To her face? In California no less.. WHAT?</edit>
jakie_chon
12-10-2005, 08:29 PM
So now you are saying that the service white people give is inferior to those of other races? You need to be banned for being such an ignorant racist.
Dude I was laughing my ass off when I read this comment, well, with this one and the "demonizing whites" comment. I don't live in the US so I didn't even think that whites could consider themselves victims of racism. Everyone wants to be the victim these days.
- a mexican
KamaItachi
12-10-2005, 09:02 PM
I don't live in the US so I didn't even think that whites could consider themselves victims of racism.
Eh? Why not?
Racism is racism, it's not a whites against everyone else thing.
jakie_chon
12-10-2005, 09:58 PM
I know, I know. It simply just didn't cross my mind. I guess it should be possible, but I think that people right now are just being paranoid (most at least? I don't know what the hell is going on anymore).
bradlay
12-11-2005, 02:45 AM
Dude just stop, these suites happen all the time nothing new, Heres what happens..... some black/asian/mullato ;) dude/chick goes into some store fills out an application and talks to somone from managment who is an asshole and prolly a lill racist (so what lifes a bitch)....so said dude/chick gets all butt hurt and decides its time to keep it real and sue someone for 50 mill.
These people make me sick and i want them to die. Im not lazy THEY!!! are the lazy ones moron. Whites have more opprotunites? Yeah sure,,thats because more white kids are born into money.Not me i was born ghetto ass broke and im getting by just like my black neighbors upstairs and next door to me.
Heres what im gonna do.....go down to the black owned barber shop down the road, fill out an ap get looked at funny and then sue those racist cock suckers when they dont hire me.
Or maybe i should just man up, keep my head up and go work for someone else, becuase why should i work for someone who hates corney ass krackers?
Thank you for proving my point.
blackzc
12-11-2005, 11:15 PM
Thank you for proving my point.
oh brother....
No, thank you for proving my point LOL, of course we are going to both be doing that, we disagree you dolt.. :rolleyes:
You did prove that you can make redundant post and pass them off as wit.
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