View Full Version : Guillermo Del Toro to Direct Halo Movie?
fitbabits
12-02-2005, 10:10 AM
This story (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/051202c.php) courtesy of Dark Horizons (http://www.darkhorizons.com) via Gamecloud (http://www.gamecloud.com):
Word is that Del Toro is currently in negotiations with Peter Jackson to take directing duties. If Jackson does hire Del Toro that would force a delay on the upcoming sequel of Hellboy which had a first draft script was turned in recently to Revolution Studios.
I loved Blade 2 and Hellboy so this augers well...
Klade
12-02-2005, 10:13 AM
As long as they keep 'the rock' out of the thing I won't complain any.
fitbabits
12-02-2005, 10:16 AM
As long as they keep 'the rock' out of the thing I won't complain any.
But but but...
I fancy The Rock is all. :rolleyes:
Debutante
12-02-2005, 10:20 AM
Even as a rumor that sounds good. Aside from Blade 2 and Hellboy, he directed a movie called The Devil's Backbone. I recommend seeing that movie into submission.
If this turns out to be true, a nerd boner epidemic may continue to ensue.
WastelandDan
12-02-2005, 10:21 AM
I liked Hellboy enough to buy it and Blade 2 was ok, but there's something about Del Toro's work that's just sort of hokey. His work feels like it could be a lot better if he just tried a little harder. Still, there are far worse people that could have been chosen *cough*boll*cough*
fitbabits
12-02-2005, 10:23 AM
Even as a rumor that sounds good. Aside from Blade 2 and Hellboy, he directed a movie called The Devil's Backbone. I recommend seeing that movie into submission.
If this turns out to be true, a nerd boner epidemic may continue to ensue.
Tell me about this Devil's Backbone...
Harlan Hoyt
12-02-2005, 10:30 AM
The Devil's Backbone is a horror film/ghost story set at an orphanage during the Spanish Civil War. It's pretty creepy and fairly subtle -- a lot more restrained than either Hellboy or Blade 2.
I do tend to agree with Dan, though. I think Del Toro could use an editor with a firm hand to make sure he doesn't wander off into unprofitable directions.
While I could care less about the Halo movie, I'm a huge Hellboy fan -- and if this pushes back the Hellboy sequel, maybe it'll give Mike Mignola to, I dunno, make some Hellboy comics!
fitbabits
12-02-2005, 10:39 AM
The Devil's Backbone is a horror film/ghost story set at an orphanage during the Spanish Civil War. It's pretty creepy and fairly subtle -- a lot more restrained than either Hellboy or Blade 2.
I do tend to agree with Dan, though. I think Del Toro could use an editor with a firm hand to make sure he doesn't wander off into unprofitable directions.
While I could care less about the Halo movie, I'm a huge Hellboy fan -- and if this pushes back the Hellboy sequel, maybe it'll give Mike Mignola to, I dunno, make some Hellboy comics!
Thank you, kind sir.
DoubleUranium
12-02-2005, 10:49 AM
This disappoints me. I didn't like either of those movies. It's probably too much to ask to get a director with talent attached to a video game based movie.
evilpenguin9000
12-02-2005, 10:49 AM
The Halo movie is showing lots of potential. Lets hope they don't find a way to Boll it up.
ÜberJumper
12-02-2005, 11:03 AM
I liked hellboy and blade 2. Hellboy had too much "funnee" in it though, but I'm not a fan of the comic, so I don't know how it compares.
Halo is a pretty dark, humourless tale (with the exception of the Grunts and some of the soldiers lines). If done more like Black Hawk Down, Saving Private Ryan or Aliens than Starship Troopers, it could make an excellent, critically aclaimed movie.
ldi222
12-02-2005, 11:03 AM
I just hope some of the action sequences in the HALO movie will immitate the gameplay and hopefully some multiplayer environments.
bradlay
12-02-2005, 11:04 AM
Blade 2 & 3 were the most disappointing sequels. They went nerdier when they should've gone Shaftier.
Schnoogs
12-02-2005, 11:05 AM
I liked Hellboy quite a bit...art direction was top notch. Everything else in the movie was good but not great.
Blade II was very mediocre to me.
I can's say that I'm too excited. Halo to me deserves a director that has proven themselves to be able to handle MASSIVE productions. This brings to mind:
James Cameron
Stephen Spielberg
Ridley Scott
Peter Jackson
George Lucas
Paul Verhoeven
To me Halo needs the production values equivalent to movies such as T2, Titanic, LOTR, Star Wars, Gladiator, Starship Troopers, etc.
Certainly there are other directors who have helmed large movies but they suck..as in Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin...Michael Bay.
Maybe my expectations of its size and scope are inflated. But I'll keep on wishing.
bradlay
12-02-2005, 11:08 AM
omg lyk McG all the way.
Sinistar
12-02-2005, 11:11 AM
Talk about nerd boy heaven. What will they think of next...a way to print their own money?
Cha-Ka
12-02-2005, 11:17 AM
Even as a rumor that sounds good. Aside from Blade 2 and Hellboy, he directed a movie called The Devil's Backbone. I recommend seeing that movie into submission.
Great Movie!! Seriously, this is a classy movie in many ways. Good supsense. Great effects for such a low budget film. This, Chronos, and Blade 2 made me begin following Del Toro's films. Hellboy was pretty good too, but it's always harder for me to appreciate films that are based on comics I like.
Go see The Devil's Backbone. The subtitled version is superior to dubbed in my opinion, but even if you have to watch it dubbed because reading subtitles bugs you I think you'll enjoy the ride.
GrinR
12-02-2005, 11:19 AM
Hellboy was a massive disappointment for a fan of the comics like myself. I mean massive. The story and setting are so particular and so fantastic, and the movie just threw some of the panels from the comic together with fancy FX. The worst crime was making Hellboy a "freak" - In the comic he is not ashamed of being different, and he's not kept hidden like a monster. The NMDP or whatever it was called was a bunch of folks who all knew the score and weren't jumpy about oddities in the least! Anyway...
I loved Blade 2 utterly. Bloodpack for the win. Design meets story meets flashy effects for joytasms.
"Boll it up" LOLOLOL!!!!!
Halo movie? Don't really care. Halo storyline? Don't even know it after finishing the game 3 times.
Talk about nerd boy heaven. What will they think of next...a way to print their own money?
Why would they? They would lose profit margin on that. :rolleyes:
Captain Awesome
12-02-2005, 11:55 AM
Holyshit, thats a great team-up...
please please please please make it happen :D
TheKeck
12-02-2005, 12:05 PM
Blade 2! People LIKED Blade 2? :confused:
Ernst_Jager
12-02-2005, 12:06 PM
Kroenen was a bad ass. One of my favorite movie villians of all time. I would watch a movie just about him if they made it. In my opinion I think the Halo franchise has alot going for it. The Master Chief character makes for the perfect kick your ass main hero.
Captain Awesome
12-02-2005, 12:08 PM
James Cameron = Loved this meglomaniacs old work. But he wont finish the film in 10 years, and would probably turn it into a story about the Master Chief looking for the Titanic.
Stephen Spielberg = Not the best dark sci-fi film-maker and would probably give the aliens walkie-talkies and make Tom Cruise the Master Chief and Halo would become some Scientology train wreck like Battlefield Earth.
Ridley Scott = Hell yes, Blade Runner anyone?
Peter Jackson = Yes, and has one of the best effects team behind him.
George Lucas = hahaha are you kidding?
Paul Verhoeven = I loved what he did, but he's too "cheesy" to do this film.
I'd say all in all Del Toro and Jackson will be a perfect team-up for this concept.
Captain Awesome
12-02-2005, 12:09 PM
Blade 2! People LIKED Blade 2? :confused:
1 & 2 were good. 3 was a 2-hour Ipod/MTV commercial. Goyer should never be allowed to direct again.
Zanzibar
12-02-2005, 12:46 PM
James Cameron = Loved this meglomaniacs old work. But he wont finish the film in 10 years, and would probably turn it into a story about the Master Chief looking for the Titanic.
Stephen Spielberg = Not the best dark sci-fi film-maker and would probably give the aliens walkie-talkies and make Tom Cruise the Master Chief and Halo would become some Scientology train wreck like Battlefield Earth.
Ridley Scott = Hell yes, Blade Runner anyone?
Peter Jackson = Yes, and has one of the best effects team behind him.
George Lucas = hahaha are you kidding?
Paul Verhoeven = I loved what he did, but he's too "cheesy" to do this film..
Amen to everything. But Paul Verhoeven needs to be assassinated from this list. 'Showgirls,' 'Starship Troopers' anyone??? 'Cheesy' is too good a word for him.
Peter Jackson won't let this film be bad. Thus, I don't think he'd allow Verhoeven or Lucas into the fuckin' THEATRE to see the FINISHED PRODUCT.
PantherModern
12-02-2005, 12:49 PM
Hellboy was good, but not as great as it could have been. Del Toro kind of treats comic movies with same over-the-top nonchalance that Shumacher has been ridiculed for (and rightly so), but Del Toro gets accolades from fans most of the time. It's nto so much the direction of Del Toro's films as the Production design. it's that same high-gloss garbage that hollywood expects from its "non-standard" pictures, and it completely destroys the mood of the film. I mean, Batman Begins was so awesome because it presented a lived-in plausible environment and kept the shiny chrome, neon, and other garish on screen elements to a minimum. So I guess what I'm saying is that Del Toro needs to be paired with a good cinematographer (the guy who did Hellboy was responsible for Spy Kids, but has worked with Tarantino) and a better production designer (the guy that did Hellboy went on to design DOOM!!!! Hahahahhahah! It shows!).
If he hooks up with Jackson and works with his people instead of his last few crews, this movie may kick ass.
I hope to God they don't get this piece of shit director.
total
12-02-2005, 01:10 PM
1 & 2 were good. 3 was a 2-hour Ipod/MTV commercial. Goyer should never be allowed to direct again.
Are you high? Blade 2 was trash from start to finish. At least Blade 3 had teh Biel to look at. MmMmmMmm....Biel...
Schnoogs
12-02-2005, 01:10 PM
George Lucas = hahaha are you kidding?
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Yeah...what would Lucas know...he only gave us the most successfull and popular science fiction movies of all time with the greatest FX of all time.
Captain Awesome you are officially a dumb ass in my book. Jump off a cliff for all I care.
Schnoogs
12-02-2005, 01:13 PM
Amen to everything. But Paul Verhoeven needs to be assassinated from this list. 'Showgirls,' 'Starship Troopers' anyone??? 'Cheesy' is too good a word for him.
Peter Jackson won't let this film be bad. Thus, I don't think he'd allow Verhoeven or Lucas into the fuckin' THEATRE to see the FINISHED PRODUCT.
Another ignorant ass too young to appreciatte such greats as the Star Wars series or Robocop or Total Recall.
Perter Jackson won't let this film be bad?? Don't make me laugh...he's good but not great. What director COULDN'T have gotten LOTR right?!?!? He had three of the most popular books of all time to base his overrated and bloated films on.
fitbabits
12-02-2005, 01:13 PM
Yeah...what would Lucas know...he only gave us the most successfull and popular science fiction movies of all time with the greatest FX of all time.
And, for parts 1 thru 3, the absolute hammiest one-liners and piss-poor story and charcter development...
Commercial success is no measure of one's true talent. Just ask Paris Hilton and Guy Ritchie.
Schnoogs
12-02-2005, 01:16 PM
And, for parts 1 thru 3, the absolute hammiest one-liners and piss-poor story and charcter development...
Commercial success is no measure of one's true talent. Just ask Paris Hilton and Guy Ritchie.
But a fanbase is...are you clueless to the fact that Star Wars most likely has the largest fanbase of any film(s).
Star Wars easily are the greatest FX films of all time and ILM,which is George Lucas's baby, is the greatest FX company of all time.
fitbabits
12-02-2005, 01:21 PM
But a fanbase is...are you clueless to the fact that Star Wars most likely has the largest fanbase of any film(s).
Nope, I'm not clueless at all. Everything you've mentioned is SECONDARY to the things that makes movies great - story and character development.
Star Wars easily are the greatest FX films of all time and ILM,which is George Lucas's baby, is the greatest FX company of all time.
So what you're saying that as long as Halo looks great (thanks to ILM) and is successful (thanks to the already-established fanbase) then you'll love the movie regardless?
That's sad and just a little pathetic.
Schnoogs
12-02-2005, 01:39 PM
Nope, I'm not clueless at all. Everything you've mentioned is SECONDARY to the things that makes movies great - story and character development.
So what you're saying that as long as Halo looks great (thanks to ILM) and is successful (thanks to the already-established fanbase) then you'll love the movie regardless?
That's sad and just a little pathetic.
Star Wars has a great story and very memorable characters. Several of them are iconic to say the least. It's story follows a rich tradition of myths dating back to the Greeks.
The only thing pathetic is your inability to achknowledge that George Lucas gave us one of the great film treasures of all time. I guess it was a brain fart on behalf of the American Film Institute when they listed Star Wars as the 15th greates film in history. They must have been thinking of Paris Hilton or Guy Ritchie when they selected it.
Nite_Moogle
12-02-2005, 01:50 PM
Lets hope they don't find a way to Boll it up.
My vote for quote of the week.
I liked Blade 2 and Hellboy, I really think he could some fantastic stuff with the Halo movie.
holycrapper
12-02-2005, 01:53 PM
George Lucus sucks balls, he is crazy now, whatever semblence of greatness died in him when he gave us those stupid overgrown teddy bears in return of the jedi, oh and wait, there were those three crappy star wars movies he just gave us, oh and what about the stupid ass cartoons he made with the star wars license, or the live action star wars he is trying to bring us, screw him, peter jackson has more talent in his pinky than that overblown hack george lucas, the only good thing that came from him in the last 20 years is the recent clone wars cartoon, but that was gendy tartiosky's creation, not lucus's. Gendy Tartiosky seems to deliver nothing but quality despite meager budgets and a bunch of writers from childrens cartoons, lucus consistently gives us crap despite the fact that he has everything going for him. I think he is the new uwe boll, or that the two of them somehow share the same soul, or that somehow boll ran into him 20 years ago and invaded his soul or something, that man has some sort of powers...Any sane producer would have kicked him outta hollywood by now..../rant off
fitbabits
12-02-2005, 01:54 PM
Star Wars has a great story and very memorable characters. Several of them are iconic to say the least. It's story follows a rich tradition of myths dating back to the Greeks.
The only thing pathetic is your inability to achknowledge that George Lucas gave us one of the great film treasures of all time. I guess it was a brain fart on behalf of the American Film Institute when they listed Star Wars as the 15th greates film in history. They must have been thinking of Paris Hilton or Guy Ritchie when they selected it.
Jesus, talk about missing the point! The second part of the 'mythology' (comprising of 'The Phantom Menace', 'Attack of the Clones', and 'Revenge of the Sith') are pale imitations compared to the far superior 'A New Hope', 'The Empire Strikes Back' and 'Return of the Jedi'.
As for memorable or iconic characters - for every Darth Vader there's a Jar Jar Binks.
Lucas deserves kudos for Hope, Empire, and Jedi, but NOT for Menace, Clones, or Sith.
Let's be clear here - when you say "Star Wars has a great story", you are referring to the whole series, right, and not just A New Hope?
swiftdraw
12-02-2005, 01:54 PM
I dunno, the last three movies were pretty bad. Granted he was a very sucessful director and producer back in the '80's, but rabid fanboyism aside, his current contributions were crap. Ep.I & II nearly made me swear off Star Wars and I've yet to see III due to the fact I don't want my nostalgia of the first three movies tarnished any further.
holycrapper
12-02-2005, 01:56 PM
me neither, i saw ep1 in theatres and cried, 2 on dvd, where i had to have a beer to continue, despite my friend pointing out all of the easter eggs in the backgrounds, tie fighters and things, it's just sad, I've lost all my fanboi respect for lucus, tartiosky on the other hand, I see him going places, give that man some giant robots, i'd spend money to see that in theatres, hell give him a trilogy, i'll be there
Captain Awesome
12-02-2005, 01:58 PM
Yeah...what would Lucas know...he only gave us the most successfull and popular science fiction movies of all time with the greatest FX of all time.
Captain Awesome you are officially a dumb ass in my book. Jump off a cliff for all I care.
oh no's a Star Wars fan got insulted :(
holycrapper
12-02-2005, 01:58 PM
Hey I just had a thought, I am listening to coheed and cambria, maybe we could pull together a petition to have tartiosky and jackson pull together an animated version of coheed and combrias storylines...that would be bad ass
Schnoogs
12-02-2005, 01:59 PM
Any sane producer would have kicked him outta hollywood by now..../rant off
HAHAHAH!!!
Lucas is an independent film maker. He finances his own movies!! He's very anti-hollywood. this is common knowledge to people who know lucas and film. He's always been outside of the system so to speak.
HAHAHAHAH!!!
Kids!!
atariv8
12-02-2005, 01:59 PM
Remember Lucas only directed episode IV of the original trilogy.
As someone who works in the film industry, you'd be suprised how much influence a Executive Producer has on a film. Although I like Del Toro I think Jackson will keep his loopy side in line. I have to disagree with the previous poster and say the LOTR could have been a horrible wreck of a trilogy. Jackson is talented. Bringing something like that together is freakin' hard.
Schnoogs
12-02-2005, 02:00 PM
oh no's a Star Wars fan got insulted :(
God you're an idiot.
Captain Awesome
12-02-2005, 02:01 PM
Are you high? Blade 2 was trash from start to finish. At least Blade 3 had teh Biel to look at. MmMmmMmm....Biel...
You only reaffirm my theory on hollywood that all it takes is tits to sell. So yeah it was a 2 hour commercial. You must have loved the Texas Chainsaw Massacare'd remake then, right?
:confused:
holycrapper
12-02-2005, 02:01 PM
yes, Jackson petitioned like hell to get those movies made. He even made the producers give him massive amounts of money to get them all done at the same time, so he would be able to see his creative vision through. He didn't want to first to bomb and them to cut his funding for the second and third, see also supertroopers...
holycrapper
12-02-2005, 02:02 PM
we have officially hijacked the thread, this is my first time....heheh...
Schnoogs
12-02-2005, 02:03 PM
As someone who works in the film industry, you'd be suprised how much influence a Executive Producer has on a film.
HAHAH!!
So how do you know then that the producer of LOTR wasn't the real reason it was a success??
Cracking me up!!!
Plus Lucas was the executive producer of 5 and 6 and Empire Strikes Back is widely considered the best of them all so using your argument it was because of Lucas.
Captain Awesome
12-02-2005, 02:03 PM
Remember Lucas only directed episode IV of the original trilogy.
As someone who works in the film industry, you'd be suprised how much influence a Executive Producer has on a film. Although I like Del Toro I think Jackson will keep his loopy side in line. I have to disagree with the previous poster and say the LOTR could have been a horrible wreck of a trilogy. Jackson is talented. Bringing something like that together is freakin' hard.
Indeed, filiming a whole trilogy in one-sitting from a book series thats just history after history of characters and documented fantasy wars. WHat he did was spectacular. I honestly could not picture any other modern directors helming a huge project like this the way he did. I dont know, maybe because he did it first, but he did it very very well. He put so much care into alot of the details of these films. I was glad to see a new trilogy come in an wash the new Star Wars films taste out of my mouth :p
Captain Awesome
12-02-2005, 02:05 PM
HAHAH!!
So how do you know then that the producer of LOTR wasn't the real reason it was a success??
Cracking me up!!!
Plus Lucas was the executive producer of 5 and 6 and Empire Strikes Back is widely considered the best of them all so using your argument it was because of Lucas.
Empire is the best one because he didn't direct it and Vader rules in that one. He made Vader such a lame character in the new films. I still can't buy that tiny Canadian boy being the great Vader. That "Nooooooooooooooo" at the end was a great touch too.
Rakael
12-02-2005, 02:10 PM
Lucas did give us Star Wars, I will give him at least that much. As far as being a director, he only directed A New Hope, and if you really pay attention, it’s the worst directed of the original trilogy. He passed on directorial duties in the other two, and they turned out to be better films (though some would argue with me on RotJ).
I will admit that Star Wars is one of the greatest cinema franchises ever, but the new trilogy would be nothing if not for special effects and riding the coat tails of the originals. Ep. 1-3 relied almost entirely on special effects, instead of relying upon character development and story as the originals did. They were a wasted opportunity to make mind-blowing films that did more than just make people point and gawp at the special effects. The new trilogy should have moved the audience as they watched Anakin become Vader; they should have felt for the monster, building upon his noble death saving Luke. Instead I, and most of the people I have spoken with, could give a shit less about Anakin; the only feelings his character inspired were those of lethargy and hate. I cannot stand the character of Anakin, and that is one of the greatest let-downs in movie history.
I should have loved Anakin. I should have cared when he fell to the dark side, feeling that sense of excitement and also a profound feeling of loss as he grows ever closer to becoming the masked monster of Vader. Instead I couldn't wait for it to get over with. The only scene that moved me out of the entire new trilogy was when his mask snapped into place. I will admit that sent chills down my spine.
Back on topic, Lucas should not ever sit in a director's chair again. For that matter, don't let him near pen and paper or a typewriter/computer ever again either.
Captain Awesome
12-02-2005, 02:11 PM
HAHAHAH!!!
Lucas is an independent film maker. He finances his own movies!! He's very anti-hollywood. this is common knowledge to people who know lucas and film. He's always been outside of the system so to speak.
HAHAHAHAH!!!
Kids!!
He's about as anti-hollywood as AOL is indie. You do realize that Lucas is a marketing and product machine right? The countless cereal/soda/food/toy tie-ins this guy creates is enough pollute an entire country in Jar-Jar binks beanie babies. If you want anti-hollywood, I think Rodriguez and Tarantino do that well along with funding thier own projects with the help of their newly creater-owned studios and even giving up thier Director Guild licenses to do the films they want to make.
Yes, Lucas is self-financed but thats also thanks to being a mindless merchandising machine.
holycrapper
12-02-2005, 02:18 PM
oooohhh....i forgot about jar jar, someone should get a mask of that imcompetent little side character and put it on a pike outside of lucus' front lawn...People normally have to really try to annoy me, who would have known that incoheerant babbling aliens got on my bad side?
Cha-Ka
12-02-2005, 02:43 PM
Blade 2! People LIKED Blade 2? :confused:
As an over-the-top action fest without a lot to think about? Yeah I liked it. It wasn't high art, but then again it dealth with characters that I don't think are all that deep to begin with. I knew that going in and I had a great time. Beat the pants off of the first Blade movie in my opinion (which was also fun to watch). Cool camera work. Cheesy one-liners. Nice art direction. Very comic-booky action. I'm alsmost sure I wouldn't have liked it if I were a longtime fan of the Blade comics, but that sort of appreciation tends to make me very unforgiving when it comes to comic/book-to-film translations. Going in as a casual observer who just wanted to see cool images with enough story or loud noises to keep me awake...I had a lot of fun watching Blade 2.
The person who said Blade 3 was a 2-hour iPod commercial made me laugh coffee all over my keyboard. I salute you! I also agree with you.
atariv8
12-02-2005, 02:47 PM
Captain Awsome, maybe it was the producers plus Jackson that made a good film. The same people I'm sure followed over to Kong. The Frightners was good but not outstanding and there were different producers on that film. I bet Jackson will be bringing some of the team over to Halo as well. The team makes the film not always the individual. So what was your point anyway?
The Lucas comment was to clearify for some of the other posts...my opinion is that the first Star Wars was the best and I also like THX1138.
DeadPixel
12-02-2005, 03:28 PM
Lucas had his moments and earned the reputation not to be laughed at. All these people laughing at Lucas now, show me anything great you've ever accomplished besides eating 5 bags of Dorritos in one sitting? Don't like Star Wars 1-3, well shut the hell up... Who gives a flying fuck what you like or not.
Lucas made the originals and for all I care he can destoy the story with his crappy sequels. It's his franchize and he deserves every right to visualize it however he likes, not how the fans command him to.
The directors to blame are the ones who destroy someone else's creations with sequels like Alien 3, Resurection, AvP, Preadator 2, etc. Directors like Paul Andersen and Uwe Boll, not old timers like Lucas. Give the man a break, he earned it!
Schnoogs
12-02-2005, 03:32 PM
He's about as anti-hollywood as AOL is indie. You do realize that Lucas is a marketing and product machine right? The countless cereal/soda/food/toy tie-ins this guy creates is enough pollute an entire country in Jar-Jar binks beanie babies. If you want anti-hollywood, I think Rodriguez and Tarantino do that well along with funding thier own projects with the help of their newly creater-owned studios and even giving up thier Director Guild licenses to do the films they want to make.
Yes, Lucas is self-financed but thats also thanks to being a mindless merchandising machine.
OMG...you are a clueless moron. The fact that you are unaware of Lucas's distate for and distance from "hollywood" shows that you are incapable of having an informed opinion on film.
Seriously...you are clueless. Captain Asshat should be your name. Anyone who knows anything about the film community knows about Lucas's distaste for Hollywood. You know jack.
I'm done with you...move along kiddie.
GrinR
12-02-2005, 03:39 PM
As an over-the-top action fest without a lot to think about? Yeah I liked it. It wasn't high art, but then again it dealth with characters that I don't think are all that deep to begin with. I knew that going in and I had a great time. Beat the pants off of the first Blade movie in my opinion (which was also fun to watch). Cool camera work. Cheesy one-liners. Nice art direction. Very comic-booky action. I'm alsmost sure I wouldn't have liked it if I were a longtime fan of the Blade comics, but that sort of appreciation tends to make me very unforgiving when it comes to comic/book-to-film translations. Going in as a casual observer who just wanted to see cool images with enough story or loud noises to keep me awake...I had a lot of fun watching Blade 2.
You know, people gloss over the plot of Blade 2, but it's actually quite intricate. The Reapers were created by the vampire elite by accident due to their trying to find a way to walk in the sun. Good so far. But the subplot of the Father/daughter/son betrayal and revenge/redemption was really quite tricky and I think added a lot to the plotline. The way they set up the fall of the Vampire nation in such a way that it wasn't Blade who brought them down, but themselves - that was good stuff.
I'm hung over. Maybe I'm just jabbering. I've watched Blade 2 probably 30 times, and I'd watch it again no problem.
Zanzibar
12-02-2005, 03:42 PM
OMG...you are a clueless moron. The fact that you are unaware of Lucas's distate for and distance from "hollywood" shows that you are incapable of having an informed opinion on film.
Seriously...you are clueless. Captain Asshat should be your name. Anyone who knows anything about the film community knows about Lucas's distaste for Hollywood. You know jack.
I'm done with you...move along kiddie.
You are a dickhead. You think that Lucas is the end-all/be-all? He had a good idea that went horribly awry when he tried to milk it for all it was worth. Yes, I love Star Wars. I have a desk FULL of SW toys. But Star Wars hasn't been good since TESB - once he tried to steer it away from mythology and make kiddie films out of it - Ewoks, Jar Jar anyone? - then it went straight to hell. If you're telling me that Eps 1-3 are works of art, then you are absoutely out of your mind.
Same can be said for Verhoeven, jackass. Yes, loved LOVED Robocop and Total Recall. But seriously, what the fuck happened to him? SHOWGIRLS, man! STARSHIP TROOPERS?!?! You're telling me that you want the fuckhead who's responsible for those turkeys to 'work his way out of it' with Halo?
Assassin, your posts are insultingly moronic. No wonder the term 'ass' appears twice in your name.
GrinR
12-02-2005, 03:51 PM
Assassin, your posts are insultingly moronic. No wonder the term 'ass' appears twice in your name.
ooOoOOooo
BURN
But a fanbase is...are you clueless to the fact that Star Wars most likely has the largest fanbase of any film(s).
Just because it is popluar doesn't make it 'good' from all angles, and certainly not fault-free. (Think Windows 98) :p Star Wars (the old ones) were pretty good at the time. But I'd suggest what George borrowed from mythological story structure to create it was what really made it good.
...not to mention that, when you look at the early story ideas, early cuts of the movie, and other things planned, it was *so* close to going beyond genius to just hokey. ;)
Star Wars easily are the greatest FX films of all time and ILM,which is George Lucas's baby, is the greatest FX company of all time.
Well, they were the first FX company. They would have had to do stuff really wrong to not be good by now. Again, they are hardly an indicator of George's 'genius'. I would merely cite three examples of the madness that is the modern George Lucas in Episodes 1-3: Jar-Jar, Yoda with a lightsabre, riding-giant-maggots-in-a-field lovestories. ;)
IMHO, Episodes 1-3 are just bad movies with a really really big budget and pre-existing fanbase. (oooooh .. controversial.) :D
grammatoncleric
12-02-2005, 05:19 PM
I love Star Wars. A lot.
That doesn't mean I like Lucas. For cryin out loud, he didn't even direct two thirds of the classic trilogy and had help writing most of it. He based his original work largely on one of the most classic Japanese films of all time. Guess what happened then, 20 years later when he had all the controls to himself? He made some shitty movies (but i did enjoy sith :) Anyway, Lucas is a one trick pony that needs to stop fucking with a good thing and let other people take over (like...maybe Peter Jackson for a new Star Wars trilogy....) Whatever talent he had has long since faded.
The_Darr
12-02-2005, 06:02 PM
im pretty sure del toro directed "mimic" as well, which i fancied quite a bit.
Stryfe01
12-02-2005, 07:40 PM
I think if he gets it it's a good choice. i'd rather see PJ direct it, but then again I understand that won't happen.
Durandal-217
12-02-2005, 08:30 PM
If Guillermo Del Toro is picked as the director for HALO then this movie will suck.
endrom
12-03-2005, 10:21 AM
I was sorta dissapointd with the hellboy movie, since it was way different form the comic, But i think del toro can pull off a okay action flick. I have some hope for this.
Oddmaker
12-03-2005, 12:27 PM
I bet half of you lot cant wait untill Indiana Jones 4 gets rlsed! ;)
ÜberJumper
12-03-2005, 12:44 PM
Regardless of what we think of Lucas as a Director, his companies have done wonders for the Movie and entertainment industry. I thank him for that.
Rommel
12-03-2005, 02:23 PM
Oh God does this man direct poor action sequences. Hey dude: Professional Wrestling moves such as a Vertical Suplex are not intended for a life or death fight. Ugh. Maybe we can see another film use an urange.
AnthraxKitty
12-03-2005, 09:23 PM
OMG...you are a clueless moron.
you are incapable of having an informed opinion on film.
Captain Asshat should be your name.
Jesus Christ. Clever guy we got here.
Anyways.
I thought Hellboy was good if you went in expecting cheese. The same could be said for Blade 2, but sadly I was expecting something above mediocre.
Still, Devil's Backbone was so amazing, and the subtle political statements in it just made it more interesting, really.
Edit: Oh God does this man direct poor action sequences. Hey dude: Professional Wrestling moves such as a Vertical Suplex are not intended for a life or death fight.
Tell that to the poor guy found in the gutter after falling victim to a devastating people's elbow!
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