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lost
01-30-2009, 12:27 PM
I don't believe this is particularly surprising but Sony Europe dude David Reeves has revealed that whilst a price cut is entirely possible we should not expect it to bring the console below the prices of it's competitors. From Eurogamer. (http://www.eurogamer.net)

Sony Computer Entertainment Europe boss David Reeves has said he reckons PS3 will remain the priciest console in the shops, despite competition from the Wii and Xbox 360.

Speaking in an exclusive interview published today, Reeves replied, "I think it will, yes," when asked whether PS3 will continue to be the most expensive machine.

"I'm not saying there are going to be any price cuts at all in the short term or the medium term. I'm not saying we don't need to do it - we are expensive. It is possible that as the cost [of manufacturing] comes down, we will be able to do it," he continued.

"But we're protecting ourselves with a very hard shell to get through the next one or two years of an economic situation. If you're experienced, you know you have to go into that mode - it's like being an armadillo. You have to be hard, and then you will come out when the sun comes out."

More information right here. (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/ps3-will-remain-most-expensive-reeves)

No surprise but good to see price cuts are still on Sony's agenda given that big ole' chunk of profits they lost. Let's keep it friendly folks.

OmegaVader
01-30-2009, 12:33 PM
And that is why they lose.

WpnX
01-30-2009, 12:37 PM
...In related news, Nintendo still plans on making tons and tons of money; Microsoft is happy just not being in last place.

Froggy
01-30-2009, 12:52 PM
Now would be a great time for Sega to make a new console, eh? Fill the void? There's a void, right?

Sloth
01-30-2009, 12:59 PM
my main problem with sony is their online service, and now that Home has turned out to be a terrible product I don't care how cheap the ps3 gets I wouldn't buy it. Which is a shame cause i really like the ps3 controller better for fighting games.

Zander
01-30-2009, 01:04 PM
The whole "being the most expensive" thing has gone really so far, right?

Right?

Wslove
01-30-2009, 02:01 PM
Stay expensive, stay third.

lost
01-30-2009, 02:05 PM
Get cheaper and plummet your company into the black economic hole you are currently tip-toeing over.

The only time you'll see Sony drop the PS3 below the 360 in terms of price is when sales dry up completely.

DarkDaY
01-30-2009, 02:21 PM
A price drop would be very nice, and they sure could use it to move some units but considering their quarterly drop I think it might hurt more then help in the long run.
Its not like the ps3 is at dreamcast numbers, its doing ok.

400 is what I payed for my 360 so I have no problem paying that for the ps3 now that the games are rolling.

fable2323
01-30-2009, 02:44 PM
Sony needs more compelling software to justify their consoles higher price tag. Consumers need to be convinced that spending the extra $$ is granting them more entertainment value. Currently, they have yet to achieve this since most games are not exclusive (Madden, Guitar Hero, Rock Band, etc.) to the console. The few that are exclusive have been lackluster both by critics tastes and consumer response (Haze, Lair, Motorstorm, etc.). A few t titles this year look promising but I am not convinced that they can compel users to push up the PS3 sales enough to put a dent in the already large lead the Xbox 360 has and the insurmountable lead the Nintendo Wii currently has.

ResistanceAddict
01-30-2009, 03:28 PM
The few that are exclusive have been lackluster both by critics tastes and consumer response (Haze, Lair, Motorstorm, etc.). .

The "few?" You should do research before saying ignorant shit like this. You using only those 3 as an example of PS3 exclusives when there a lot of great ones out there clearly shows you either have no idea what you're talking about or that you are just another biased PS3 hater.

And if you need the list of the quite sufficient number of great PS3 exclusives (since you mentioned none), I'd be happy to list them all for you.

TeeCakes
01-30-2009, 03:51 PM
Who cares about price, if Sony re-adds the BC support to new models they can charge whatever they want for PS3s.

ResistanceAddict
01-30-2009, 03:58 PM
Who cares about price...

The Wii says hi. I'm a PS3 supporter but also a fair critic, and that just sounds like a stupid question. Having BC didn't help move many units when they were charining $500-$600. Price is a HUGE factor. I dunno why I should even have to be telling you this...

lost
01-30-2009, 04:09 PM
Keep it chilly Res.

Do many people trade in consoles these days? Folks are more willing to spend more money on gaming. I wouldn't be surprised if like 90% of PS3 owners who used to own a PS2 still did. BC is a convenience thing for most I reckon.

Paranoia
01-30-2009, 04:10 PM
Who cares about price, if Sony re-adds the BC support to new models they can charge whatever they want for PS3s.

Marketing 101: Price DOES matter.

OmegaVader
01-30-2009, 04:17 PM
Who cares about price, if Sony re-adds the BC support to new models they can charge whatever they want for PS3s.

Let it be known that the announcement of the initial launch price was the first step towards failure.

SpectralWolf
01-30-2009, 05:40 PM
And that is why they lose.

Let it be known that the announcement of the initial launch price was the first step towards failure.

Okay, let's all bow to Omega Vader's infinite wisdom :rolleyes:

kwolf
01-30-2009, 06:20 PM
Well, at least he didn't repeat the "we want to keep it expensive so you have to work for it" canard.

Johan
01-30-2009, 07:23 PM
Who cares about price, if Sony re-adds the BC support to new models they can charge whatever they want for PS3s.

If they put BC back in there, I'll buy. Hardware BC with the PS2.

But...not for "whatever" price. That's being too generous in your analysis, I'd say.

TeeCakes
01-30-2009, 07:31 PM
Well Res, it wasn't really a question I was asking, more of a statement about what people are willing to pay a premium price for. The Wii says hi-- it's currently more expensive than a 360 Arcade, but people would rather have Wii Sports, Nunchucks, and Miis (oh my!) than just a bare-bones unit.

So not only should you get an extra job for a BC-PS3, but people have devoted an entire paragraph of a suicide note because of their fully-featured 60-giger!

And to my friend, (redacted)

I am especially sorry. I know it's not much consolation but as my friend and roommate you are entitled to everything that I own. Maybe these things can bring in a few bucks.

Good luck in this shitty world...

You know my ps3 is special. Similiar USED ps3's go for AT LEAST $450-$500. Our landlord guy wants a ps3 like mine. Let him know that $400 would be a GOOD deal. If he doesn't want it, format the drive by going to Settings>System>Format Utility. You can say it "comes with the latest firmware software" to help market it on the internet. In case you don't know, it's the special "100% backwards compatible" (60 GB) ps3.

I'm sorry to put all this on you buddy, good luck.

Via GamePolitics (http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/01/26/rampage-shooter-willed-playstation-3-roommate-suicide-note).

TeeCakes
01-30-2009, 07:35 PM
If they put BC back in there, I'll buy. Hardware BC with the PS2.

But...not for "whatever" price. That's being too generous in your analysis, I'd say.

I may have been overzealous, infact. But I agree that going to launch-era prices for BC consoles would be a huge blunder.

If I were in charge, I'd keep them priced at the $400-500 (US) level and add the Emotion Engine back in, when they're finally ready to lay the PS2 console to rest.

DarkDaY
01-30-2009, 08:47 PM
I paid far more for my wii, and 360 at launch for far fewer guaranteed games.
I think 400 is too much considering the competitions prices, but for what you get I think its fair. It has a guaranteed library, solid hardware and the pack ins.

Im one of those that really doesn't care about BC so im ok all ways.

Now I understand that the 360 can be cheaper depending on how you go, has many of the same games and most run just a tad better (nothing game breaking, just fanboy fodder from what I have heard) but for those who are looking for another console or a new one are getting a better deal than I did back when I bought my other consoles.

The exclusives are there, more are coming, and it is now a standard launch price for a lot of machine and great library.

fable2323
01-31-2009, 03:00 AM
The "few?" You should do research before saying ignorant shit like this. You using only those 3 as an example of PS3 exclusives when there a lot of great ones out there clearly shows you either have no idea what you're talking about or that you are just another biased PS3 hater.

And if you need the list of the quite sufficient number of great PS3 exclusives (since you mentioned none), I'd be happy to list them all for you.

I only listed a few because I believe there was no reason to try and name EVERY game that fits my description. I could name more but do you need a list to really see the PS3's software sales trend? Plainly put, the PS3 has NOT had a piece of software yet that moves in the numbers the former king of consoles, the PS2 had. Nor has it had anything approaching the numbers some Wii games have seen this generation (Wii Play, Mario Kart, Wii Fit, etc.). I never said the PS3 had insufficient software. What I did say was it had no compelling software that makes users warrant the higher price tag at this point. Sure there have been some high points in the span of time since it's release but no game has truly made a huge sales impact for the machine to date. What Sony needs is a game that drives sales of its hardware and that has yet to happen. As for your fanboy statement, I own (2) PS3's, over 12 games and 60 Blu-Ray films. However, I also know I am in the minority here. Wave your fanboy flag else where...

ResistanceAddict
01-31-2009, 03:26 AM
Plainly put, the PS3 has NOT had a piece of software yet that moves in the numbers the former king of consoles, the PS2 had.

And it's probably not going to unless the PS3's status ever changes, and that could end up not happening. Not even MGS4 was able to do it.

lost
01-31-2009, 07:35 AM
It's only really the Wii that has had a piece of software that has consistently driven sales since release.

The 360 and the PS3's biggest and best titles have only pushed up sales momentarily. They really don't have those "evergreen" games.