Killzone 2 Gets First Perfect Score [Archive]

lost

01-12-2009, 02:20 PM

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y242/LostGames/2009/killzonescreen.jpg
Playstation: The Official Magazine, US edition, has been the first to award Sony's high-profile sequel a perfect score. From Metacritic. (http://www.metacritic.com)

It's true that Killzone 2 is filled with moments that can handily be described as inspiring awe. Each scene is incredibly well detailed, from the gaps in jerry-rigged cover points letting you sneak in a killing headshot to scarred and scratched textures, the planet feels entirely believeable... Without a doubt Killzone fans, action and shooter fans of any stripe will instantly tag this sequel as a powerful contender for best game of 2009.

The lofty comments come from a magazine which awarded the original with a fair-ish 8 out of 10 whilst in a slightly different guise. This suggests that there wasn't too much bias involved but it'd be fair to suggest some pressure would be put on them for a good score.

However, the game has received excellent previews strongly suggesting it's going to be one of the best shooters of 2009. One can at least assume that it deserves the majority of it's score points. Keep an eye out on the page (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/killzone2) to see how it goes.

Excited? I most certainly am.

Meusli

01-12-2009, 02:24 PM

Thank F. It really did need to be good for the developers and the system but a little to early to be calling it game of the year.

Zeal

01-12-2009, 02:25 PM

ironically, the official playstation magazine is known for being harder on its games than most non sony affiliated sources, so i'll take their word on it. i expect high 9s and a few 10s.

guess there's finally something on ps3 worth buying.

Zanch

01-12-2009, 02:30 PM

I kind of hated the original game, I'll reserve judgement until I play this one myself.

Mike Jones

01-12-2009, 02:53 PM

Meh. Moneyhat reviews don't count.

silv

01-12-2009, 02:55 PM

Interesting. Wonder if it will unseat GoW2 as the top shooter.

Also interested to see how many copies it sells, seeing as how it is exclusive.

bulldozer.sweden

01-12-2009, 02:55 PM

Lets see if other more "neutral" sources gives the game the same score. There's a big chance they will :)

Vandenh

01-12-2009, 03:18 PM

OPM? Rofl... seriously.

lost

01-12-2009, 03:20 PM

OPM? Rofl... seriously.

There "official" association doesn't make them wrong straight away. As I've said, previews have been super positive.

parallels

01-12-2009, 03:30 PM

According to Metacritic, they also gave the PS3 version of Street Fighter IV a perfect score: http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/streetfighter4

NuK

01-12-2009, 03:48 PM

According to Metacritic, they also gave the PS3 version of Street Fighter IV a perfect score: http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/streetfighter4

wth? that game doesn't even exist yet...? (or i'm woefully out of touch w/ reality)

riposte101

01-12-2009, 03:59 PM

Perfect scores without first playing multiplayer over PSN? I hate how everybody just tries to get their reviews out first.

shadow763

01-12-2009, 04:03 PM

You are out of touch. SF4 comes out next month as well so of course they would have a review.

shadow763

01-12-2009, 04:04 PM

Perfect scores without first playing multiplayer over PSN? I hate how everybody just tries to get their reviews out first.

All reviews on games with multiplayer are done before the game releases. The developers do have the network up for reviewers to play on pre release.

Khash

01-12-2009, 04:23 PM

I'd still rather have a sequel to Killzone: Liberation...

Guy Mariano

01-12-2009, 04:53 PM

According to Metacritic, they also gave the PS3 version of Street Fighter IV a perfect score: http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/streetfighter4

Your going to see alot of high scores for that game. Street fighter is back.

ÜberJumper

01-12-2009, 05:34 PM

It's Jury-Rigged/Jerry-Built not Jerry-Rigged!

Jury Rigged has a good connotation, Jerry Built means it's crap.

... and apparently I have a pet peeve about this...

AversionFX

01-12-2009, 07:56 PM

It's Jury-Rigged/Jerry-Built not Jerry-Rigged!

Jury Rigged has a good connotation, Jerry Built means it's crap.

... and apparently I have a pet peeve about this...

Was going to post the same thing.

And big surprise, a highly anticipated game getting a perfect score? Clearly this is not your average well-financed review score! (I call bullshit. No game is a perfect 10. Ever.)

JazGalaxy

01-12-2009, 08:59 PM

Was going to post the same thing.

And big surprise, a highly anticipated game getting a perfect score? Clearly this is not your average well-financed review score! (I call bullshit. No game is a perfect 10. Ever.)

I have no problem with games getting perfect tens because I think some games deserve it. Goldeneye for instance.

But, seriously, a perfect 10 for an FPS? NOW?

I would have MAYBE given Halo 1 a perfect 10, and it redefined the genre in at least 5 meaningful ways (Integrating solid vehicle and on-foot combat for the first time, the recharging shield mechanic, the two weapon mechanic, re-establishing co-op as a feature, first FPS to have solid networked combat, etc.)

Killzone has to redefine at LEAST that many elements of the FPS to get a perfect ten from me.

lockwoodx

01-12-2009, 09:59 PM

Holy marketing blitz batman!!!!!! Giant turd in 5...4....3...2...

ResistanceAddict

01-12-2009, 11:21 PM

I hope it is. The PS3 NEEDS this game to be exceptional.

DarkDaY

01-13-2009, 12:09 AM

shadow763

01-13-2009, 12:39 AM

Well, at least now that opm gave them a 10 now they can have snazzy commericals with the perfect 10 from one reviewer pasted all over the place.

Reviews are near on meaningless to me, hell GTA4 got a perfect 10, and hells no. I just wait till I hear more from the different people in here and other places.
Reviews are mainly for fanboys nowadays.

Yes...I agree on GTA4. I still dont know what was so different from the previous titles that made it ground breaking. I still got bored like I did before.

I also agree with the earlier post about a sequel to Killzone:Liberation. I just finished it and it was great. Lets get another.

ResistanceAddict

01-13-2009, 01:40 AM

Well, at least now that opm gave them a 10 now they can have snazzy commericals with the perfect 10 from one reviewer pasted all over the place.

Reviews are near on meaningless to me, hell GTA4 got a perfect 10, and hells no. I just wait till I hear more from the different people in here and other places.
Reviews are mainly for fanboys nowadays.

This IS true, I have to admit. GI gave a solid 8 to one of the shittiest games I've ever played in Spider-Man 3.

ProfPuppet

01-13-2009, 01:42 AM

I have no problem with games getting perfect tens because I think some games deserve it. Goldeneye for instance.

But, seriously, a perfect 10 for an FPS? NOW?

I would have MAYBE given Halo 1 a perfect 10, and it redefined the genre in at least 5 meaningful ways (Integrating solid vehicle and on-foot combat for the first time, the recharging shield mechanic, the two weapon mechanic, re-establishing co-op as a feature, first FPS to have solid networked combat, etc.)

Killzone has to redefine at LEAST that many elements of the FPS to get a perfect ten from me.

I... Halo. One. A perfect ten. Redefin.... Jesus Christ.

Anyway. One thing I've always wondered, is, are there any reviewers that give number/star/happy unicorn emoticon scores test for things like widespread multiplayer and replay values? It's something that's left out of a lot of reviews. There are a lot of excellent games that you'll play only once, but I think there's something to be said about games that are really damn good that you'll play multiple times. I wish they'd make these things part of a secondary or tertiary baseline score for the game, so you can go, 'Oh, okay, it's kickass for the 12-hour singleplayer, pretty fun for about 10 hours multiplayer, and you can breeze through singleplayer again a couple of times and only get 10 minutes of new or interesting content.'. Are there any online sites that do that sort of thing regularly?

lost

01-13-2009, 02:20 AM

I'm surprised that so many people seem to think this game won't be deserving of the score. There's been nothing but positive things said about it since the E3 trailer thing blew over. Heck, it even stands up to that trailer pretty fucking well.

Meusli

01-13-2009, 02:58 AM

To be fair Sony has earnt this reputation for hyping exclusives that are less than stella, I have a feeling though this will be a good one. Just a shame it could not be out before Christmas for them.

Johan

01-13-2009, 05:16 AM

As I've said, previews have been super positive.

I have no idea whether this review is accurate or not, but I will say this: Previews are advertising. Period. It is in their very DNA to be positive, and they can be discounted on that basis (and are, by myself at least).

YMMV on that opinion, of course.

Dag-Sabot

01-13-2009, 07:05 AM

This game would be an excellent opportunity to take the overly ornate doily off the top of my PS3, and give my overworked 360 a well deserved rest. Initial official reviews seem irrelevant at first glance but there's reason for optimism.

Khash

01-13-2009, 10:03 AM

I would have MAYBE given Halo 1 a perfect 10, and it redefined the genre in at least 5 meaningful ways...
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk12/khashmonet/ohyou.jpg

F3nyx

01-13-2009, 10:33 AM

Integrating solid vehicle and on-foot combat for the first time, the recharging shield mechanic, the two weapon mechanic, re-establishing co-op as a feature, first FPS to have solid networked combat, etc.

Tribes 2 did all of these first, except for the co-op (since it didn't have a real campaign) and assuming that you don't regard a two-weapon limit as qualitatively different from a 3/4/5 limit. Saying that "re-establishing" an old feature "redefined the genre" is some mega spin anyway.

Incidentally Tribes 2 is alive again, and it's free, and it's still the best online FPS ever made. (http://tribesnext.com)

Hitoriga

01-13-2009, 11:45 AM

I find it laughable that because its the "official" playstation magazine, people think they are owned by Sony or something. Its actually a part of Future Inc., a company that also makes the Official Xbox Magazine and Nintendo Power (the official nintendo magazine).

Perhaps the more legitimate rationale for believing that this is a disingenuous review is that perhaps payed the editors off in secret? That seems highly likely as all major publishers do that. I believe EGM editor Dan Hsu wrote an article about that a while back.

So is it possible Sony gave everyone at PSM a fat check? Yes, but where is the evidence? The seemingly improbable assignment of perfect quality to game? or the fact that the magazine has the words "official" and playstation both in the title. Both are moot to the fact that they have provided a well legitimized review of their experience and covering all the bases of what their criteria of a "good" game is. To also provide a supposition of bias, especially considering PSM has been unfriendly towards supposed AAA Playstation game like Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue and graciously giving them all 8 and Lair a 5, is unfounded. I would say that their critiques are strongly legitimized and lack monetary sway. They deserve a lot more respect than some of the people of this thread gives them.

Personal opinion is fine, and so is skepticism. Play Magazine gave Lair a 9/10 and that was one of the first reviews. We all know how well that turned out. Please found those presuppositions upon something more than personal bias.

Venkman

01-13-2009, 12:04 PM

Who cares. The graphics looks shit hot. I'd buy a PS3 just for that.

ElektroDragon

01-13-2009, 12:19 PM

So the perfect score.... is that for being the ultimate 3D grayscale simulator? All I saw in all the trailers was the most amazing number of shades of gray I've ever seen. They should call it GRAYzone.

ElektroDragon

01-13-2009, 12:20 PM

Who cares. The graphics looks shit hot. I'd buy a PS3 just for that.

It should be easy to have incredible graphics when you only have one color in your palate, no?

modeps

01-13-2009, 01:11 PM

It should be easy to have incredible graphics when you only have one color in your palate, no?

You keep this up and I'm going to change your name to ElektrollDragon. :cool:

ElektroDragon

01-13-2009, 01:48 PM

You keep this up and I'm going to change your name to ElektrollDragon. :cool:

You think I'm funny? I'm not making this stuff up! Read:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/a141884/guerrilla-refutes-killzone-2-grey-criticism.html

:D

ResistanceAddict

01-13-2009, 02:24 PM

It should be easy to have incredible graphics when you only have one color in your palate, no?

I'm sorry, but tis is just NOT an argument. I'm sick of hearing about colors. Some games are SUPPOSED to look that way. You expect a lot of greens and blues in a game of this nature? So it being gray negates the fact the graphics are great??? Seriously, this is just a worn-out troll "argument."

I have to say Elektro, you've gotta be one of the biggest nit-picking trolls I've ever come across. There's zero substance to almost every post I see you make.

Khash

01-13-2009, 03:37 PM

Yea, that argument simply doesn't hold water. As long as the colors fit the tone and setting of the game it doesn't matter how many shades of gray they use.

lost

01-13-2009, 04:02 PM

Far Cry has too much green.

Mike Jones

01-13-2009, 05:55 PM

Who cares. The graphics looks shit hot. I'd buy a PS3 just for that.

Graphics are meh

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B1B19SK2

ElektroDragon

01-13-2009, 10:05 PM

I'm sorry, but tis is just NOT an argument. I'm sick of hearing about colors. Some games are SUPPOSED to look that way. You expect a lot of greens and blues in a game of this nature? So it being gray negates the fact the graphics are great??? Seriously, this is just a worn-out troll "argument."

I have to say Elektro, you've gotta be one of the biggest nit-picking trolls I've ever come across. There's zero substance to almost every post I see you make.

You are very close to me reporting you the mods. Haven't you learned your lesson? I'd rather have zero substance posts that ones filled with hatred and vile. Zip it. ZIP IT! Where is the banhammer?

ResistanceAddict

01-13-2009, 11:27 PM

You are very close to me reporting you the mods. Haven't you learned your lesson? I'd rather have zero substance posts that ones filled with hatred and vile. Zip it. ZIP IT! Where is the banhammer?

What lesson? Are you fucking serious? Banned simply for challenging someone's illogical point of view? As opposed to being banned for HAVING an illogical point of view? There was no "hate." You clearly are looking for drama. You are some kind of egotistical person; report me to the mods for simply questioning your typical half-assed arguments? Give me a fucking break. Any mod with sensibility (which clearly you don't have) would laugh in your face.

Sonic Wang

01-14-2009, 01:54 AM

I really hope Killzone 2 will be great. I really didn't like the first game but saw what it could've been. There was a lot of potential there wasted on poor design, poor balancing and simply not enough play testing. I never did bothered finishing it.
I've been getting more and more excited about Killzone 2, but some things i've been hearing about give me pause, such as the only able to carry one main weapon (along with a pistol, grenades and knife). I like more variety in my weapon choices and being forced to drop my rifle for a rocket launcher to just take out a tank or boss sounds counter intuitive.

I'm sorry, but tis is just NOT an argument. I'm sick of hearing about colors. Some games are SUPPOSED to look that way. You expect a lot of greens and blues in a game of this nature? So it being gray negates the fact the graphics are great??? Seriously, this is just a worn-out troll "argument."

They just gotta have something to complain about. First it was whining about how Halo was all shiny and colourful, then it's the likes of Gears of War and the "Next Gen Brown" bullshit. You can never please those kind of tossers. Killzone 2 looks beautiful.

I... Halo. One. A perfect ten. Redefin.... Jesus Christ.

Oh GET over yourself. I'm so sick of hearing these holier than thou people slag off Halo. I come from a background of PC gaming, i always prefer FPS games on PC, my favourite FPS is the Half Life series (can't wait for Black Mesa Source), i loved Deus Ex and hated Invisible War, but i can say without stutter that Halo 1 was a superb game, and like it or not it DID redefine FPS games (and not just on consoles) due to how so many other games imitated it.

lost

01-14-2009, 02:40 AM

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y242/LostGames/knut.jpg
Relax.

Dag-Sabot

01-14-2009, 09:00 AM

I walked past a demolished house and complained to the builders about their "colour pallet".

ElektroDragon

01-14-2009, 09:14 AM

Exodus

01-14-2009, 09:30 AM

This game better be good. Lord knows all those sony 'my ps3 is awesome' fanboys need SOME sort of game that they'll play for honest to god longer than a few months that has actual creativity, imagination, great design and art that is exclusive and fuck sports games.

/gets off soap box

MaxDuo

01-14-2009, 09:56 AM

Perfect 10 from it? Well it'd be awesome if it actually was worth a 10. And after how awesome it's trailer 2,000 years ago at E3 was, it better be nice.

And I do always love arguments about color palettes. You figure someone arguing about that would love Nintendo and cell shaded games. Then again those are fun and can be amazing to look at too....... But I think one day we need to make an FPS where you're killing people in the world's largest gardens. COLORS EVERYWHERE. It'd be some acid trip game likely.

sol740

01-14-2009, 10:54 AM

I hope Killzone is awesome, but somehow I get this feeling of impending letdown. I'm not sure where it comes from ...

Oh ... the first Killzone was a fucking terd.

Someone give me an infraction !

ResistanceAddict

01-14-2009, 11:42 AM

Your called me a troll and attacked my intelligence, sir, with your "zero substance" comment. So yeah, you have a pattern of vitriliolic posts which disturb the peace and tranquility of the Evil Avatar community. If you can't stand my posts, I've been told there is a handy dandy "ignore user" feature.

Yes, I called you a troll. DAMN, what a potty mouth I've been! ROFL. You WERE trolling, as you quite often do. If you can't handle being called a troll and get upset by it, I don't know how you can handle the real world, sir. Disturbing the peace... Jesus, you are really some sort of drama whore.

Maybe next time don't base all your opinions and simple bias and irrelevant issues. clearly you expect vibrant colors out of such a dark-themed game and that somehow ruins the whole thing for you. All your posts seem to show the same ignorance.

Seriously, so you constantly rant and base everything you post on empty and shallow views with no substance, and you wanna made mod threats and unnecessary drama every time someone criticizes you? Did your mother have any children that lived?

I guess ignorance is bliss, huh? Keep on enjoying it, I guess...

ElektroDragon

01-14-2009, 11:46 AM

Yes, I called you a troll. DAMN, what a potty mouth I've been! ROFL. You WERE trolling, as you quite often do. If you can't handle being called a troll and get upset by it, I don't know how you can handle the real world, sir. Disturbing the peace... Jesus, you are really some sort of drama whore.

Maybe next time don't base all your opinions and simple bias and irrelevant issues. clearly you expect vibrant colors out of such a dark-themed game and that somehow ruins the whole thing for you. All your posts seem to show the same ignorance.

Seriously, so you constantly rant and base everything you post on empty and shallow views with no substance, and you wanna made mod threats and unnecessary drama every time someone criticizes you? Did your mother have any children that lived?

I guess ignorance is bliss, huh? Keep on enjoying it, I guess...

Thank you for your thought provoking opinions and suggestions. And actually, no, my mother did not have any children that lived. I was an only child, I had a brother that died before I was born.

I'm not sure why you take my freuquent "tongue in cheek" posts as trolling. However, if you wish this site to become a completely serious and humorless place, I will do my best to accomodate.

ResistanceAddict

01-14-2009, 11:49 AM

Thank you for your thought provoking opinions and suggestions. And actually, no, my mother did not have any children that lived. I was an only child, I had a brother that died before I was born.

I'm not sure why you take my freuquent "tongue in cheek" posts as trolling. However, if you wish this site to become a completely serious and humorless place, I will do my best to accomodate.

Well you stated once before that indeed you were biased. I just wish you were a little more sensible with your posts, and maybe a little lighter n the drama, lol. That post about "involving the mods" made me laugh out loud.

ElektroDragon

01-14-2009, 11:55 AM

Well you stated once before that indeed you were biased.

Correct. I am biased. Are you not biased in your "LOATHING" of AI controlled companion games? I do not believe there is such a thing as an "unbiased opinion". In fact, "unbiased opinion" appears on the Internet's Best List of Oxymorons.

Source: http://www.atlantamortgagegroup.com/oxymoronlist.htm

ResistanceAddict

01-14-2009, 12:07 PM

Correct. I am biased. Are you not biased in your "LOATHING" of AI controlled companion games? I do not believe there is such a thing as an "unbiased opinion". In fact, "unbiased opinion" appears on the Internet's Best List of Oxymorons.

Source: http://www.atlantamortgagegroup.com/oxymoronlist.htm

Yes, but I never said that that would negate the game being good as you seemed to suggest that dark colors made the graphics irrelevant in KZ2. I am still hanging onto hope that RE5 will be an excellent game.

And I hate to tell you but yes you can have an opinion and not be biased. It depends on the strength of your opinion and how far you let it go before you believe it as fact. Example: my opinion is that RPGs in general are boring, repetitive and lack creativity. Yet I rarely preach this to people suggesting an RPG is great (like FF7) and I realize that my opinion doesn't mean I'm right, and in fact I actually LOVE Fallout 3, and the Paper Mario and Pokemon series.

Maybe the idea of someone who doesn't always take their opinions to an extreme seems impossible to you and many other people. I guess I can't blame you in this day and age, though. Apparently some people even KILL based on their opinion sometimes, rofl.

sol740

01-14-2009, 12:27 PM

I hate both of you Vagoos.

AversionFX

01-14-2009, 03:18 PM

Yes, but I never said that that would negate the game being good as you seemed to suggest that dark colors made the graphics irrelevant in KZ2. I am still hanging onto hope that RE5 will be an excellent game.

And I hate to tell you but yes you can have an opinion and not be biased. It depends on the strength of your opinion and how far you let it go before you believe it as fact. Example: my opinion is that RPGs in general are boring, repetitive and lack creativity. Yet I rarely preach this to people suggesting an RPG is great (like FF7) and I realize that my opinion doesn't mean I'm right, and in fact I actually LOVE Fallout 3, and the Paper Mario and Pokemon series.

Maybe the idea of someone who doesn't always take their opinions to an extreme seems impossible to you and many other people. I guess I can't blame you in this day and age, though. Apparently some people even KILL based on their opinion sometimes, rofl.

Would you two get a room already? I can smell your sexual tension from here.

lost

01-16-2009, 04:49 AM

Just to keep you folks updated a new, non-official review has just been released by MEGamers with another huge score of 99.

http://www.megamers.com/playstation3/review.php?game_category=8&article_id=3557

Also OPMs UK counterpart gave it a 9 and the Gothamburg Post a 4/5.

sol740

01-16-2009, 11:07 AM