Blue Dragon in action [Archive]

Red Cloak

11-23-2005, 07:02 PM

Nice screen, the lighting is expecially good.

http://smood.littlestar.jp/x-net/news/2005/11/picture/230202.jpg

- Hironobu Sakaguchi of Final Fantasy fame is in charge of the game
- Akira Toriyama (Dragon Ball) is doing the character art
- Nobuo Uematsu doing the music
- Microsoft is publishing

Dabombpizza

11-23-2005, 07:12 PM

Umm...link? I don't know what the hell this is. Am I suppposed to? Am I really that out of the loop?

Arai

11-23-2005, 07:16 PM

I believe it's supposed to be just a screenshot, I've never seen one before so I guess it's like a first time thing. I can't really tell anything by the screen.. but those 3 names sure are convincing :)

TrackZero

11-23-2005, 07:17 PM

Not the most "wow" screenshot (with regards to what the gameplay would be about). But looks like good lighting and draw distance. I'll wait until there's more data out about it.

Vaginasaurus

11-23-2005, 07:38 PM

I love the contours on the fat cat-like thing's body. I only hope that if I zoom in I'll be able to see every single roll. Very impressive I must say.

KamaItachi

11-23-2005, 07:38 PM

Apparently the best things about this from the easrly builds is the animation. There's no jerky transition between actions, like walking/running and when you turn, the characters body moves appropriately. The shift from moving/attacking is supposed to be exceptionably fluid too.

It's all rather nice, but it doesn't help us decide if the game is going to be any good or not.

Kelegacy

11-23-2005, 07:59 PM

Captain Awesome

11-23-2005, 08:14 PM

I'll wait to judge on an actual screenshot than some crappy magazine scan.

I have to say this is one lame news post.

bobbler

11-23-2005, 08:14 PM

Wow, look at that action -- that screenshot without any source or link to explain anything more about it sure shows the action of the game really well!

Is a single screenshot that isn't even very large or all that impressive and 4 lines really newsworthy?

Don't get me wrong, the game might be fantastic, but come back when there is actually something substantial and newsworthy.

makkura

11-23-2005, 08:15 PM

thats one good reason to have a 360.

JudasGoat

11-23-2005, 08:20 PM

It's Red Cloak. He'll post anything he can scrounge up that puts Sony in a negative light and XBox in a positive one. Regardless how trivial or irrelevant the topic is.

aversion2k

11-23-2005, 08:34 PM

It's Red Cloak. He'll post anything he can scrounge up that puts Sony in a negative light and XBox in a positive one. Regardless how trivial or irrelevant the topic is.

Seems that way.

A little more info on what this is topic is about would be nice.

The Iron Weasel

11-23-2005, 08:35 PM

I bet the mods approve this stuff just to see our reactions.

Reanimated

11-23-2005, 09:12 PM

Shitty capture, but the game looks nice. Love the anime look.

Captain Awesome

11-23-2005, 09:25 PM

I bet the mods approve this stuff just to see our reactions.

Approve? "Nice screen, the lighting is expecially good"

I think someones just hitting the Submit Reply button blindly :p

Kelegacy

11-23-2005, 09:33 PM

The sad thing is, when an RPG is mentioned for the 360, especially a Japanese/Anime one, suddenly people take notice and make "newsposts" about it. Where were you for the past 5-6 years when the PS2 was/is getting bombarded by such games?

KamaItachi

11-23-2005, 09:40 PM

ElPresidente

11-23-2005, 09:41 PM

I'm more interested to find out at which stage acid was put in the world's water supply making everyone think that games in which you have no control over the main characters role were called role playing games. :D

Rafer

11-23-2005, 09:47 PM

Umm...link? I don't know what the hell this is. Am I suppposed to? Am I really that out of the loop?

Sakaguchi/Toriyama/Uematsu is basically a Chrono Trigger reunion... if you're into Japanese rpgs it's like the Beatles got back together. More Square than Square.

Hellstorm

11-23-2005, 09:50 PM

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1922/beans2dt.jpg

Morrolan

11-23-2005, 10:14 PM

I'm fed up with Toriyama artwork. It's boring and cliche. Admittedly, it's cliche because a lot of people copied him, but the point remains. Still, this could be good. I'm not a big JRPG guy, but this looks like it might be a good place to dive in.

The shot is newsworthy, I'd say. I mean, what's the DOWNside to posting it? Do you pay a nickel for every headline you read? Where's the beef? More info is always good. But I will say that the content of the article isn't that great. What's the source? Is there a link to some info on the game?

TrackZero

11-23-2005, 10:14 PM

If you want to experience a great RPG already out, go play Dragon Quest VIII. Toriyama did the artwork for that game, too. Simply beautiful.

But how the fuck is this a newspost? Who's greenlighting this stuff?

Maybe Bap's gone on a bender and is just approving anything. ;)

Edit: Oh yeah, isn't this the first shot we've seen of this game yet? I thought it was under wraps. So that would make it newsworthy.

mkelehan

11-23-2005, 10:20 PM

To be fair, how many of those games brought the guy that nearly bankrupted Square out of retirement?
You're a bit mixed up. Square was nearly bankrupt, and he saved them.

KamaItachi

11-23-2005, 10:23 PM

You're a bit mixed up. Square was nearly bankrupt, and he saved them.

Really? Wasn't he the guy that pushed Spirits Within?

AversionFX

11-23-2005, 10:25 PM

- Hironobu Sakaguchi of Final Fantasy fame is in charge of the game
- Akira Toriyama (Dragon Ball) is doing the character art
- Nobuo Uematsu doing the music
- Microsoft is publishing

That's a pretty high-class group of people.

The Iron Weasel

11-23-2005, 10:50 PM

Zeal

11-23-2005, 11:09 PM

Looks terrible. I am interested in the other game they're working on, though.

holycrapper

11-23-2005, 11:23 PM

me too, but being that chrono trigger was my quintiscential rpg moment, and one of the few games that ever made me cry, i'll prolly buiy it, gawd CT was great, FF7 was put to shame before they ever made it...

Player 1

11-23-2005, 11:57 PM

If you want to experience a great RPG already out, go play Dragon Quest VIII. Toriyama did the artwork for that game, too. Simply beautiful.

But how the fuck is this a newspost? Who's greenlighting this stuff?

I thought all you guys agreed that Redcloak is J Allard?

Anyway, 4 days later than other websites and only one magazine scan? You guys should try going to places like The Magicbox (http://www.the-magicbox.com/0511/game051120f.shtml) for more pics.

If you've never heard of The Magicbox then I've just done you a favour - it's an extremely good gaming news website and highly accurate. It updates every few days rather than rushing to post stuff that can't be substantiated. We're talking quality over quantity here folks.

The game appears to have a good pedigree - it's just a shame that it gets cheapened by Redcloak using it as a cheap shot in his little propaganda campaign.

Dabombpizza

11-24-2005, 12:27 AM

The game appears to have a good pedigree - it's just a shame that it gets cheapened by Redcloak using it as a cheap shot in his little propaganda campaign.
God I hate it when you make sense. :D

RevGored

11-24-2005, 01:14 AM

You know, the only reason I'm plowing through Toriyama's terrible art in Dragon Quest 8 is the pedigree of the game itself, and the only reason I'll be plowing through his cavalcade of generic tripe in Blue Dragon is the pedigree of Sakaguchi, and my enjoyment of Uematsu's music. Nothing could make me un-enjoy the look of this game anymore, though. I wish Toriyama would either just stop, or adopt an art style that isn't so base and irritating to anyone who likes something other than primary colours painted over primary shapes.

HumpYourWay

11-24-2005, 04:55 AM

" Nice screen, the lighting is expecially good."

What lighting??!?!?!

King Drewsky

11-24-2005, 05:35 AM

WTF? Red Cloak post a screenshot to a game that I am heavily interested in and half the board goes apeshit and calls it a Microsoft conspiracy? Shut the hell up. If a news post doesn't interest you, then don't read it. The mods put in a lot of unpaid effort to review and approve news for us readers. You insult them by questioning what is a worthy or non-worthy news article.

(back on topic) I wished they hadn't used Toriyama. His character designs are juvenile and remind me too much of Dragonball Z. But playing as a cute little kid is better than the affeminate teen boys in recent Final Fantasy games.

Jacob Singer

11-24-2005, 05:37 AM

But playing as a cute little kid is better than the affeminate teen boys in recent Final Fantasy games.

Playing as neither is even better. That screenshot looks like it comes from a game for ten-year-olds.

KamaItachi

11-24-2005, 05:54 AM

Playing as neither is even better. That screenshot looks like it comes from a game for ten-year-olds.

Mistwalker is making 2 games for the 360. Dragon Blue is supposed to be a more pop/bubblegum RPG for the slightly younger games, their other title (name escapes me at the moment) is supposed to be a much more "mature" game.

Stormwatcher

11-24-2005, 06:01 AM

I do like Toryama, but his designs are kinda old for games. I mean, some of the shots in MAgic Box remind me of original DB Bulma. Well, if you people are tired of the current JPRPG cliches, go play Dungeon Siege 2 :)

Kelegacy

11-24-2005, 06:04 AM

Maybe Bap's gone on a bender and is just approving anything. ;)

Edit: Oh yeah, isn't this the first shot we've seen of this game yet? I thought it was under wraps. So that would make it newsworthy.

But that's what the forums are for. Every time a new game comes out with a screenshot or a scrap of info, it isn't really front page news. Yesterday I created a thread about Level 5's Rogue Galaxy rpg and the new trailer Sony and Level 5 just released to the public, and I didn't even consider putting it out on the front page. THAT was more news than this. Hell, I had a link.

Again, not all news is front page news. Red Cloak must have self approve status; then again, I'm sure he's probably the one who's writing out the website's paychecks, so I'm not surprised.

Kelegacy

11-24-2005, 06:06 AM

" Nice screen, the lighting is expecially good."

What lighting??!?!?!

Thanks, I thought I was the only one who thought that.

*Legion*

11-24-2005, 06:12 AM

I'm fed up with Toriyama artwork. It's boring and cliche. Admittedly, it's cliche because a lot of people copied him, but the point remains.

The fact that it is most strongly attached to DRAGON BALL only makes matters worse.

Dabombpizza

11-24-2005, 07:38 AM

Shut the hell up. If a news post doesn't interest you, then don't read it. The mods put in a lot of unpaid effort to review and approve news for us readers. You insult them by questioning what is a worthy or non-worthy news article.
Article? Where? I don't see one? All I see is a screenshot without a source or a link. For all I know this could be photoshopped. If there was a link, possibly some description of the game, maybe even a release date. Well then shit, looks like some new is there. But right now there is a screenshot with words, and it says look at the lighting. What fucking lighting? It's a scan, could be a prerendered image for all I know! And if it wasn't for the mentioning of microsoft's involvement I wouldn't even know what system this was for.

Also, the fact that Redcloak hasn't seen the griping and edited his post for a damn link or at least some extra information shows he really just doesn't give a shit.

RMan

11-24-2005, 09:55 AM

" Nice screen, the lighting is expecially good."
What lighting??!?!?!
Yea, I thought that was odd too, same types of things I kept seeing for Kameo. I think people get excited about a next-gen game, then have to validate that excitement by finding a way it's graphically impressive (even if imagined). I think they need to stick to "this looks like fun", personally, I think that should be enough.

MadHiro

11-24-2005, 11:00 AM

Mistwalker is making 2 games for the 360. Dragon Blue is supposed to be a more pop/bubblegum RPG for the slightly younger games, their other title (name escapes me at the moment) is supposed to be a much more "mature" game.

The second game is named "Lost Odyssey", and the three screenshots that are up for it at Mistwalker's website look tasty enough. I'm really excited about both of them, which isn't really surprising as I think the JRPG world peaked at Chrono Trigger. It is a double plus shame that people associate this artistic style with Dragon Ball, and not CT, which is what I think of whenever I see it.

ShankTheChicken

11-24-2005, 11:17 AM

The second game is named "Lost Odyssey", and the three screenshots that are up for it at Mistwalker's website look tasty enough. I'm really excited about both of them, which isn't really surprising as I think the JRPG world peaked at Chrono Trigger. It is a double plus shame that people associate this artistic style with Dragon Ball, and not CT, which is what I think of whenever I see it.

We can't help it though. Being subjected to years of that horrible TV series just broke any interest I had in Toriyama's artwork. I played Chrono Trigger before I'd even heard of Dragon Ball, so at the time I thought the artwork was pretty interesting. I'm all for second chances though, so if that team is working together again I'll give it a shot.

I do agree though. Red Cloak should have provided a link and/or a little more info here. He posted like this game is a pop culture icon and we would all know exactly what he was talking about from the heading. This is the first time I've even heard of this game.

MadHiro

11-24-2005, 11:32 AM

We can't help it though. Being subjected to years of that horrible TV series just broke any interest I had in Toriyama's artwork. I played Chrono Trigger before I'd even heard of Dragon Ball, so at the time I thought the artwork was pretty interesting. I'm all for second chances though, so if that team is working together again I'll give it a shot.

I do agree though. Red Cloak should have provided a link and/or a little more info here. He posted like this game is a pop culture icon and we would all know exactly what he was talking about from the heading. This is the first time I've even heard of this game.

And really, there is an important distinction that needs to be made here. The cartoon entitled "Dragon Ball" was actually kind of good, IMO. It was fun. Everything that happened once they tacked a Z onto the title sucks donkey balls.

Carnisaur

11-24-2005, 11:43 AM

Say what you will about Toriyama's artwork but he really has a knack for imaginative and cohesive character designs. I also enjoy the fact that his characters have facial expressions and don't have those cold, empty eyes I've been forced to grow used to in current-gen RPGs. Also It just so happens pretty much every RPG he does the designs for turns out to be absolte gold, so I have high hopes for this one. If the 360 has this kind of continued support from RPG developers I might consider buying one.

aversion2k

11-24-2005, 12:38 PM

" Nice screen, the lighting is expecially good."

What lighting??!?!?!

Its true, it all looks like texture work to me

mister_slim

11-24-2005, 01:27 PM

I'm more interested in Lost Oddyssey. Maybe if this has a really interesting combat system I'll pick it up, but the subject matter just looks like juvenile (the kind of juvenile that has doomed quite a few good Xbox games).
You're a bit mixed up. Square was nearly bankrupt, and he saved them.
That was the first time. Then he made Spirits Within, losing Square over 100 million dollars, which ended up causing Square to merge with Enix.

Kelegacy

11-24-2005, 01:52 PM

WangoTango

11-24-2005, 04:38 PM

How old are you people that would even play this? I can guess and it is scary sad.

Kelegacy

11-24-2005, 04:41 PM

How old are you people that would even play this? I can guess and it is scary sad.
If it's fun, who cares?

stingray

11-24-2005, 04:58 PM

Does anyone know when this game is supposed to come out in North America roughly?

KamaItachi

11-24-2005, 05:16 PM

Does anyone know when this game is supposed to come out in North America roughly?

It's not even scheduled to be out in Japan until this time next year. I'd say an optimistic guess would be Spring/Summer 2007.

JudasGoat

11-24-2005, 08:03 PM

If it's fun, who cares?

100% agreed. That was an incredibly ignorant thing to say, especially coming from another gamer.

Spigot

11-25-2005, 03:44 PM

And really, there is an important distinction that needs to be made here. The cartoon entitled "Dragon Ball" was actually kind of good, IMO. It was fun. Everything that happened once they tacked a Z onto the title sucks donkey balls.

Amen. Dragon Ball is a hilariously great anime from way back. Dragon Ball Z, etc. are utter tripe.

I'm not going to knock the art style as that one shot shows us nothing AND I am currently loving DQ8's art. I also have to concur with the people mentioning CT's art. It was fantastic at the time and this was long before DBZ became the scourge on the anime world that it is now.

As for the newspost, I was wondering what system it was for myself until I looked closer and saw the MS mention tucked away at the bottom. I've posted some bad news stories myself but this takes the cake. Definately forum material, not front-page. I mean, it should have at least had some reference links and stuff like, oh, what system it was coming for posted a little more explicitly.

Spigot

11-25-2005, 03:48 PM

If it's fun, who cares?

Agreed. Why do people get so hung up over whether a game is aimed at kids or not? It seems like you can automatically tell if someone is a teenager trying to act older than they are if they start complaining that a game is too kiddy.

There are lots of games that are aimed at kids that are a blast to play.
There are lots of games that are aimed at adults that are a blast to play.
There are lots of games that are aimed at both audiences that are a blast to play.

There are lots of games aimed at any of the above that are complete and utter tripe and should never have seen the light of day.

I'd rather have a cutesy game that is a blast to play and leaves me grinning than a gritty game that makes me want to hurl the controller through the screen because of poor gameplay and execution.

Kelegacy

11-25-2005, 03:54 PM

Agreed. Why do people get so hung up over whether a game is aimed at kids or not? It seems like you can automatically tell if someone is a teenager trying to act older than they are if they start complaining that a game is too kiddy.

There are lots of games that are aimed at kids that are a blast to play.
There are lots of games that are aimed at adults that are a blast to play.
There are lots of games that are aimed at both audiences that are a blast to play.

There are lots of games aimed at any of the above that are complete and utter tripe and should never have seen the light of day.

I'd rather have a cutesy game that is a blast to play and leaves me grinning than a gritty game that makes me want to hurl the controller through the screen because of poor gameplay and execution.

You play kiddie games! Look everyone, he's a dork! Why don't you grow up and play some real games, Mr. Dork! LOLIMGAYLOL

Serapth

11-25-2005, 04:05 PM

And you play with yourself! Look everyone, he's a masterbater! Why don't you grow up and play with some real girls, Mr. Masterbater!
LOLIMGAYLOL

Kelegacy

11-25-2005, 04:07 PM

And you play with yourself! Look everyone, he's a masterbater! Why don't you grow up and play with some real girls, Mr. Masterbater!
LOLIMGAYLOL
You don't play fair.

Serapth

11-25-2005, 04:11 PM

You don't play fair.

No, I play to win!

Or, come in second...

Sometimes third...

Ok, fuckit, ill be honest, I normally lose.

Spigot

11-25-2005, 05:21 PM

You play kiddie games! Look everyone, he's a dork! Why don't you grow up and play some real games, Mr. Dork! LOLIMGAYLOL

Don't make me sick (or is it sic?) my Pikmin on you! I'll Animal Cross your face!

Um...

Yeah...