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atomic_burrito
11-11-2005, 11:46 AM
Call off the dogs, Sony relents...for now.

Sony to Stop Controversial CD Software

Nov 11, 2:02 PM (ET)

WASHINGTON (AP) - Stung by continuing criticism, the world's second-largest music label, Sony BMG Music Entertainment, promised Friday to temporarily suspend making music CDs with antipiracy technology that can leave computers vulnerable to hackers.
Full article (http://apnews.myway.com//article/20051111/D8DQELK0E.html)

ezra
11-11-2005, 12:01 PM
Sony is really batting a thousand these days, I tell ya.

ninjadan
11-11-2005, 12:01 PM
Quite the contrary, don't call of the dogs. Keep Sony running and teach the others that this is wholey unacceptable.

spacerat100
11-11-2005, 12:06 PM
i'm seriously never buying sony products again. They've done some pretty unethical things in the past but this one is above and beyond anything any other company has done in resent memory.

Dabombpizza
11-11-2005, 12:10 PM
They actually responded faster then I thought they would.

agentgray
11-11-2005, 12:11 PM
...aaaannnndd what about all the CDs that are already in the wild? What about the infected machines? What about the money my company had to spend to protect Sony's IP? What about the hard to find, crappy, machine destroying removal tool on their obfuscated website?

This decision placates nothings for me.

In other news, Sophos has released a removal tool that works (http://www.sophos.co.uk/support/disinfection/rkprf.html)!

Reanimated
11-11-2005, 12:16 PM
"temporarily" = until they find another way to screw you over.

Magnanimous Gnome
11-11-2005, 12:19 PM
Yeah, this whole thing was pretty shitty. I think we need more regulation of business in general, like in the good old days of actual antitrust work by the government. Unfortunately that was 100 years ago now, and these days all the businesses get for their practices is more tax breaks.


"temporarily" = until they find another way to screw you over.


So true. They didn't even apoligize or try to undo the damage they've caused. They just want to make the bad press go away while they work on something even worse.

Zane
11-11-2005, 12:24 PM
This won't stop the lawsuits. The damage was done and corrective action still needs to be taken to prevent them from going down this road again and to keep them from simply trying to hide it better next time around.

screwtape
11-11-2005, 12:29 PM
I hope they get hit with a bunch of fines. Does any of this shit fall under federal computer crime laws?

agentgray
11-11-2005, 12:30 PM
I just saw this great quote over on /.Stewart Baker, the Department of Homeland Security's policy czar warned would-be DRM makers: 'It's very important to remember that it's your intellectual property -- it's not your computer. And in the pursuit of protection of intellectual property, it's important not to defeat or undermine the security measures that people need to adopt in these days.'

zorper
11-11-2005, 12:30 PM
Uhh.... Thank you for not messing with my PC even more...?

It's like thanking Jason for not stabbing you for the 13th time...

Citizen Philip
11-11-2005, 12:37 PM
Our method of distrubution is under attack! People don't both listening to an entire shitty album and just take the good songs off the innarweb!

Quick! Harrass the paying customers with protection!

But sir! How will this stop them?!

You sir disgust me, our amazing new protective methods will prevent, without a doubt, Billy Hansen the 4th grader. As soon as Billy can't burn the CD, everything will begin to return to normal.

...

atomic_burrito
11-11-2005, 12:42 PM
Yeah, the thing to note is the lack of apology. Through all this, they still think they did the right thing.

MasterEvilAce
11-11-2005, 12:44 PM
I think a lot of companies would make better decisions if they read forums... When everyone goes "WHAT THE FUCK".. you know you're doing something wrong.

Murtaug
11-11-2005, 12:49 PM
I think a lot of companies would make better decisions if they read forums... When everyone goes "WHAT THE FUCK".. you know you're doing something wrong.

That would work if there was one forum that voiced one opinion about everything. Considering there is probably a forum for every side of every argument ever out there.. not so much.

agentgray
11-11-2005, 01:16 PM
That would work if there was one forum that voiced one opinion about everything. Considering there is probably a forum for every side of every argument ever out there.. not so much.
I'm just not seeing any forums out there that are praising the Sony DRM all that much. :rolleyes:

Rakael
11-11-2005, 01:43 PM
If I do see one, I'm loading up the bike with every weapon I have and tracking down each and every member who praises Sony. What I do to them will depend on how much praise they heaped upon the rotting cesspool Sony is becoming.

Zolf
11-11-2005, 02:07 PM
I'm wondering if all this egg on Sony's face is going to translate into Sony loyalists jumping to the Xbox 360 out of disgust. Anybody who's used Minidisc software and seen this DRM bullshit go down can pretty much guess that Blu-Ray is destined to be chock full of buggy, over-constraining software. There goes the Playstation 3's biggest edge.

Heretic Machine
11-11-2005, 02:28 PM
Through all this, they still think they did the right thing.

Last I checked, the right thing for something of this magnitude is called: Seppuku.

Dracula-X
11-11-2005, 03:00 PM
This fiasco isn't gonna stop me from getting a PS3. Sony BMG can go jump off a cliff for all I care, but punishing Sony Computer Entertainment is shortsighted. Ahh, who cares, I'm getting all 3 nextgen consoles anyways.

mister_slim
11-11-2005, 03:41 PM
I'm wondering if all this egg on Sony's face is going to translate into Sony loyalists jumping to the Xbox 360 out of disgust. Anybody who's used Minidisc software and seen this DRM bullshit go down can pretty much guess that Blu-Ray is destined to be chock full of buggy, over-constraining software. There goes the Playstation 3's biggest edge.
Well, I own an Xbox, despite my abhorrence of MS's fuckery.

spacerat100
11-11-2005, 03:48 PM
microsoft has never come close to fucking it's own customers like this.

agentgray
11-11-2005, 07:02 PM
microsoft has never come close to fucking it's own customers like this.
I'm so glad they use condoms....

iamhurtin
11-11-2005, 10:08 PM
good thing i never buy cds

Magnanimous Gnome
11-12-2005, 09:38 AM
I'm wondering if all this egg on Sony's face is going to translate into Sony loyalists jumping to the Xbox 360 out of disgust. Anybody who's used Minidisc software and seen this DRM bullshit go down can pretty much guess that Blu-Ray is destined to be chock full of buggy, over-constraining software. There goes the Playstation 3's biggest edge.

Well, Blu-Ray IS going to be filled to the brim with DRM. There's some pretty scary shit that some companies want to put in there, but there are investigating the legality of it and such.

I heard something about a method of monitoring blu-ray drives to see if they are used "illegally" (ie whatever the company doesn't like), and then sending them a signal to more or less self-destruct. Don't know if that is all true, but it's pretty messed up.

microsoft has never come close to fucking it's own customers like this.

Well, MS has made several versions of Windows, all of which have been shitty and bug filled to a degree. Windows XP is better, but Windows, Outlook, etc. are full of security holes that allow viruses to come through.

MS has done plenty of crappy things in the past, so don't let them slide by.

Fubl
11-12-2005, 05:38 PM
So what people who actually bought these albums and are pissed that they cant import the music into itunes/ That you have to use Approved players and the list isnt even partially accurate used a phatnoise phatbox and it didnt work....

alienchild
11-13-2005, 09:10 AM
Well, as Ive said before, this was the last straw for me, it was the shit that pissed me off so that I have stopped buying music, and started pirating it instead. I show up no concerts to bands I want to support, and I buy their merchandise there, like t-shirts and glow-in-the-dark double-dildos.