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Everlost_MI
11-06-2005, 04:16 PM
Welcome to week thirty-six of Evil Avatar’s Weekly Comic Book Reviews.

The Evil Avatar’s Comic Book Review Weekly giveaway for week thirty-six is Ultimate Secret #4 courtesy of BCBcomics (http://www.bcbcomics.com/). The deadline for entry submissions for week thirty-six is Sunday, November 13th. The selection of the random winner for the November books will occur on Sunday November 27th. Click here (everlost_mi@evilavatar.com) to submit your entry and don’t forget to include your Evil Avatar screenname. Remember, you can submit one entry each week to increase your chances of winning.

The list of books that are going to be given away for the month of November are:

· Ultimate Secret #4

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Everlost_MI
11-06-2005, 04:17 PM
Week Thirty-six:
Evil Avatar's Weekly Comic Book Reviews - Week 36
By Everlost_MI (Brian K. Nichols), Editor in Chief

Ultimate Secret #4 of 4
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Writer: Warren Ellis
Pencils: Tom Raney
Inks: Scott Hanna
Colors: Rob Schwager
Letters: Chris Eliopoulos
Editor: Ralpha Macchio
Price: $2.99 US/$4.25 CAN

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This issue concludes the tardy story of Captain Mahr Vehl and his desire to help Earth defend itself from Gah Lek Tus that was foretold by the Vision back in the Ultimate Nightmare mini-series. The issue is split between Nick Fury, Thor, The Thing, The Human Torch and Black Widow defending the S.H.I.E.L.D. station from an attack by the Kree army that was deployed by the orbiting Kree warship. Meanwhile Hawkeye, Mr. Fantastic, the Invisible Woman and Iron Man with the help of Captain Mahr Vehl are able to download all of the Kree information regarding Gah Lak Tus before the Kree commander completes the self-destruction sequence of the warship. The Kree commander reveals before his demise that the Kree are willing to sacrifice other planets/species in order to allow them to be spared from Gah Lak Tus. The storyline concludes in a five-part mini-series entitled Ultimate Extinction. Marvel is spinning the tale of the Ultimate Vision in three other Ultimate Universe titles before launching an Ultimate Vision mini-series in 2006. The issues the Ultimate Vision story are being spread over can be viewed here ( http://www.marvel.com/publishing/stories/showstory.htm?id=49) at Marvel.com ( http://www.marvel.com/). This typical Marvel marketing scheme feels like the old days of the whole Secret Wars I & II crossover mess or recent Spider-Man: The Others crossover that is being told throughout all the “core” Spider-Man titles. So if you really want the entire Ultimate Vision story you will have to pick up the single Ultimate Spider-Man, Ultimate Fantastic Four and Ultimate X-Men issues or wait for the trade paperback (TPB) to be released.

Warren Ellis’s dialog and characterization were enjoyable and this issue illustrated why it was a bad idea of killing off the Ultimate version of Hawkeye. Tom Raney’s artwork, layouts and battle sequences were decent as they didn’t add or detract from Ellis’ script.

Bottom Line:
If you’ve been reading this mini-series the ending of this arc doesn’t really provide any major surprises but it’s still an enjoyable read. If you’re not reading this mini-series and you’re following either the Uitimates or the Ultimate Fantastic Four series then wait for the TPB to be released. The Ultimate Secret and this mini-series are a decent read, especially if they can be read at one sitting due to the pacing of the issues.

Rating: 3.5 out of 5 EvilEyes
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House of M #8 of 8
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Writer: Brian Michael Bendis
Pencils: Olivier Coipel
Inkers: John Dell, Scott Hanna and Tom Townsend
Colors: Frank D'Armata
Letters: Chris Eliopoulos
Cover artists: Esad Ribic (regular) & Chris Bachalo (variant)
Editor: Tom Brevoort
Price: $2.99 US/$4.25 CAN

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Ok, the reign of House of M is over and the results were not worth the $23.92 USD plus tax for the eight issues. Sure, Peter Parker is full of angst over the loss of his House of M life and being able to remember all of it. But when hasn’t Peter’s life been full of such tragedies and emotions, that’s what drives Peter/Spider-Man. Moving on, Wolverine can remember his entire life. Um, ok. So now he knows how much damage he’s inflicted on others and the world along with his various heroics. Yippee. That will change things, how? He’ll be a gentler, kinder mutant who’s built for death? Professor X is gone. Gone? Dead? Or is just no longer a mutant? And does anyone really care? This guy has gone MIA more times than I can remember. Now, Magneto is powerless. Ok, but he’s up there with Dr. Doom, Galactus and the Green Goblin for the major Marvel villains and now he’s just a regular Joe? I doubt that will stick for long, but time will tell. But why take away Iceman’s powers and bring Bucky (not confirmed yet, by the Marvel powers that be) back to life? So Hawkeye is back and he’s pissed? And Wanda/Scarlet Witch is off playing Red Riding Hood in some European country while some huge power (Phoenix force anyone?) is building in the parting shot of the Earth as the issue ends. I did enjoy how disheveled and stunned Dr. Strange was by the entire situation and his lack of control and involvement in preventing this catastrophe, it’s was a rare sight to see. I am curious if they are going to pursue that or the cameo of William Stryker as an evangelist.

Brian Michael Bendis’ story could have been told in four issues rather than eight but his dialogue and characterizations were excellent. Olivier Coipel’s artwork is good but it really shines when it comes to the facial expressions as the various characters go through the aftermath of the House of M.

Bottom Line:
If Marvel follows through with the various changes they made in this series then I’ll be surprised. Some of the changes were unexpected such as Iceman losing his powers while others, at least initially, appear to be non-events such as Wolverine remembering entire his life. I can’t honestly recommend this series unless you find the single issues or the TPB for cheap. To quote Public Enemy, “Don’t believe the hype!”

Rating: 2 out of 5 EvilEyes
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The New Avengers #12
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Writer: Brian Michael Bendis
Pencils: David Finch
Inkers: Danny Miki
Colors: Frank D'Armata
Letters: Richard Starkings & Comicraft’s Albert Deschesne
Editor: Tom Brevoort
Price: $2.50 US/$3.50 CAN

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This issue consists of one big ninja fight with the Avengers while the Viper and Silver Samurai going back and forth about who’s pulling the strings at HYRDA and S.H.I.E.L.D. The story ends with the Avengers witnessing Spider-Woman taking down Viper but only after a suspicious pause between the two adversaries. What the rest of the Avengers do not know is that the suspicious pause contained a threat from Viper to revoke the restored superpowers HYDRA bestowed unto Spider-Woman if she didn’t take her down.

Brian Michael Bendis tried to create a frenzied all out battle between the ninjas and the Avengers that fell flat as it was peppered with forced humorous dialogue. Unfortunately, an entire page was wasted with Power Man returning from a multiple story fall to rejoin the fray only to be forced to listen to the song, Break My Stride by originally performed by Matthew Wilder but later covered by Ace of Base. The entire banter between Viper and Silver Samurai about who is pulling the strings at HYRDA and S.H.I.E.L.D. was pointless, as it really went nowhere. The identity of masked hero who was suggested by Daredevil a few issues back for this mission is still a mystery and it doesn’t provide any suspense just a dangling subplot that is more of an annoyance than anything else. David Finch’s artwork and layouts were excellent and tried to inject action and raw energy into Bendis’ lackluster script. Danny Miki and Frank D’Armata’s inks and coloring brought Finch’s artwork to life with the excellent use of shadows and subdued colors.

Bottom Line:
This issue spun its wheels in plot and excitement, even with the all out ninja fight. If you’re not reading this series, keep going. If you are, then don’t expect much from this issue. I believe Bendis is really starting to stretch himself thin, even his normally excellent Ultimate Spider-Man is beginning to see signs of wear.

Rating: 2 out of 5 EvilEyes
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What else is worth reading this week…
· Captain America #11 – Interesting, I wonder if it’s all true or just a creation of the Cosmic Cube.
· Defenders #4 – Very humorous, it’s a shame there is only one issue left in the series.

Thanks to Marvel (http://www.marvel.com/) for the link ( http://www.marvel.com/publishing/stories/showstory.htm?id=49) to the Ultimate Vision information.

The Evil Avatar’s Comic Book Review Weekly giveaway for week thirty-six is Ultimate Secret #4 courtesy of BCBcomics (http://www.bcbcomics.com/). The deadline for week thirty-six entry submissions is Sunday, November 13th.

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Heretic Machine
11-06-2005, 04:26 PM
...Am I the only person who enjoyed House of M?

G-Man
11-06-2005, 04:49 PM
I thought HoM was a great read! After reading a couple of interviews with Joe Q., I've got faith in the aftermath of this "event."

InstaPete
11-06-2005, 05:16 PM
I thought HoM was pretty good, but I LOVED issue 8. The big climax was fairly incredible, and I'm interested in the ramifications of revealing Wolverine's past.

on a side note, did anyone read the Wolverine issue with him in a concentration camp? Really intense.

MosBen
11-06-2005, 05:56 PM
My problem with the series is that despite all of their assurances that the effects of this crossover will be permanent and felt for a long time I just don't believe it. An original X-Man and the X-Men's most historic/powerful enemy powerless? A small handful of mutants on the planet? No Professor X? I'm sure they'll try their best, but stuff like this just can't stick. I just can't in a medium with so many different writers changing books all the time. Eventually someone will want to bring back one of the characters that was lost and will come up with some incredibly lame way to do it, eventually leaving almost everything undone.

thecrazyd
11-06-2005, 06:01 PM
But... but... Iceman is the best X-Man.

InstaPete
11-06-2005, 06:07 PM
My problem with the series is that despite all of their assurances that the effects of this crossover will be permanent and felt for a long time I just don't believe it. An original X-Man and the X-Men's most historic/powerful enemy powerless? A small handful of mutants on the planet? No Professor X? I'm sure they'll try their best, but stuff like this just can't stick. I just can't in a medium with so many different writers changing books all the time. Eventually someone will want to bring back one of the characters that was lost and will come up with some incredibly lame way to do it, eventually leaving almost everything undone.

like claremont's bizarre, shitty Xorn explanation in his bizarre, shitty x-title?

Kefkataran
11-06-2005, 09:17 PM
Man, Marvel week, huh? That's alright, DC was light this week, but Infinite Crisis #2 is out Wednesday. /drool

Speaking on the reviews: I definitely like the wrap-up of Ultimate Secret despite the crazy delays. I'll be checking out Ultimate Extinction for sure.

Also: I heard an interview with J.M. Dematteis on Defenders recently. He said that while the mini-series is wrapping up, they will ALMOST DEFINITELY be getting an ongoing starting in February or March of next year. They plan to explore some of the less popular Defenders members too. This should be solid gold. Here's hoping they can create a Defenders run as classic and well-loved as their JLA run.

After reading a couple of interviews with Joe Q.

:S Believing anything Joe Q. says in an interview is ALWAYS a risky proposition.

normyk
11-06-2005, 09:36 PM
Ah, Ultimate Secret has been fun. Love the second and third issues. The handling of the Ultimate FF and Tony and Thor was spectacular. This issue was less fun the the previous two but a good conclusion to the whole thing.

bardockkun
11-07-2005, 01:43 AM
House of M is over and it proved to be just as disappointing as the first issue implied it was going to be.

So my question is, is that it? I mean honestly that's "All" the ramifications that the House of M brought that in the interviews got all the writers (including Joss Whedon which i figure is the reason for Astonishing's hiatus too) excited over?

Has Marvel ever done the whole giant crossover thing right? I can't think of any series that was a crossover with an actual lasting effect on all Marvel comics. Not to be tooting the horn of DC, but with most of their crossovers and going into other comics there is an effect (like how Zero Hour played a role in the resurrection of Oliver Queen despite it taking place years after).

Kefkataran
11-07-2005, 02:01 AM
Not to be tooting the horn of DC, but with most of their crossovers and going into other comics there is an effect (like how Zero Hour played a role in the resurrection of Oliver Queen despite it taking place years after).

I think that, at the least, DC's just as hit and miss as Marvel in how good their big crossovers are. But they are good at doing huge ones that have lasting impact (Crisis on Infinite Earths, Zero Hour, and, I'm sure, Infinite Crisis).

On that note:
IC #2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MosBen
11-07-2005, 06:55 AM
I don't know that DC is any better than Marvel at having actual lasting effects. I mean, aren't they bringing back Jason Todd and didn't they already bring back Hal Jordan? I mean, I'll give them Barry Allen, but it's not really like they killed off the Flash. The bigger the impact a story has, the less likely it is to stay unchanged. Superman dead? Yeah, that won't last. A powerful, and more importantly popular, character loses their powers? They'll get 'em back eventually. All it will take is a dip in sales somewhere down the road and some young writer that really wants a crack at writing character or storyline X and the big crossover is unravelled.

Dr.Finger
11-07-2005, 07:59 AM
I just can't see Marvel leaving Magneto powerless and Xavier "gone". They let Grant Morrison kill off Magneto and his death lasted what, 3 months? He'll be back within 18 months tops. By the way, very few people mention the Wolverine thing, but it may be the worst part of HoM. He remembers everything? So you take one of the most humanizing elements of a character that is, at heart, a killing machine, and wipe it out. Bad move.

InstaPete
11-07-2005, 09:13 AM
House of M is over and it proved to be just as disappointing as the first issue implied it was going to be.

So my question is, is that it? I mean honestly that's "All" the ramifications that the House of M brought that in the interviews got all the writers (including Joss Whedon which i figure is the reason for Astonishing's hiatus too) excited over?

Dude, those were pretty big events. Wolverine remembering everything about his history? NEARLY EVERY MUTANT IN THE MARVEL U LOSING THEIR POWERS? What could be bigger?

Cupelix
11-07-2005, 09:22 AM
Dude, those were pretty big events. Wolverine remembering everything about his history? NEARLY EVERY MUTANT IN THE MARVEL U LOSING THEIR POWERS? What could be bigger? I'll say that I liked HoM on the whole. The problem is, it doesn't matter if nearly every mutant in the Marvel U loses their powers. From what we can see, 99% of the mutants we actually know still have them. All it really means is that we won't have new mutants showing up, which means we can get back to some "classic" X-Men bad guys, instead of inventing crappy new ones.

Kefkataran
11-07-2005, 09:54 AM
I don't know that DC is any better than Marvel at having actual lasting effects. I mean, aren't they bringing back Jason Todd and didn't they already bring back Hal Jordan? I mean, I'll give them Barry Allen, but it's not really like they killed off the Flash

Lasting effects does not simply = characters staying dead. And especially in the long-term, that is hard to hold onto (for either publisher) because of rotating creative teams as well as rotating management. But if you look at, say Crisis on Infinite Earths, that had MAJOR and LASTING changes on the DC Universe. The closest it's come to a CHANCE that those might be undone is with Infinite Crisis, and that certainly remains to be seen.

Wolverine remembering everything about his history? NEARLY EVERY MUTANT IN THE MARVEL U LOSING THEIR POWERS? What could be bigger?

What Cupelix said. The vast majority of the mutants who lost powers are lesser-knowns or completely unknowns. And even then, Joe Q has said there *will* still be some new mutants showing up, just a lot less than there would be normally.

which means we can get back to some "classic" X-Men bad guys, instead of inventing crappy new ones.

Except Blob (that's the fat guy's name right?) who I think lost his powers. :(

bardockkun
11-07-2005, 12:40 PM
I think only way it can be considered good in my opinion is if the issues that crossed over into the big event had some signifiance in the small bit. I mean looking at all the House of M crossover books, none of them really made a lick of sense in the current real continuity. Hell ruined a perfectly good run of Hulk for a HoM story that didn't advance anything.

So Wolverine remembers his past, big whoop, that shouldve happend decades ago and still doesn't explain his entire past or what memories maybe false or any other curve ball about his past.

Hell nearly every mutant losing their power doesn't mean crap long as Wolverine can be on the cover or can make a guest appearance. This would really make me care maybe if X-Statix was still around to make light of the situation with a bit less of serious tone, but that isn't going to happen.

Only good i can really see (or a spit of significance once more) in this whole thing is how Whedon will ACTUALLY make me care (hopefully) about these events in Astonishing once he gets back. Other then that, Joey Q talks waaaaay too much hype and praise over all his damn books that he should just shut up ahelluvalot more.

The series could've been better if it wasn't every hero looking at this like it was the greatest threat in the universe (or if it was actually able to live up to that). I mean the X-Men have faced planets being destroyed and Avengers and others faced threats like the Infinity Gauntlet. Yet they had to all join together to figure out whether or not to kill the Scarlet Witch? Was that issue even really resolved though? No, it just gave us issues of filler and pointless bickering and once more reminding us Peter loves Gwen and all this other crap that no one gave a damn about. Maybe if they wiped out the Mutants i actually care about with no chance of them getting their powers back (actually wasn't there a story like this already from X-Men during the Alan Davis run where Wolverine was getting adamantium poisoning with his lack of healing factor?).

And ill join in on the fray in saying...INFINITE CRISIS #2 OUT THIS WEEK.

Kefkataran
11-07-2005, 04:44 PM
This would really make me care maybe if X-Statix was still around to make light of the situation with a bit less of serious tone, but that isn't going to happen.

X-Statix Presents: Dead Girl. Coming in December or January, baby.


And ill join in on the fray in saying...INFINITE CRISIS #2 OUT THIS WEEK.

Mmmmhmmm. You catch the preview pages on Newsarama? Brilliant writing. Geoff Johns, baby.

bardockkun
11-07-2005, 10:29 PM
Considering they focus on the events of HoM. I figure more so it's just see what the X-Statix characters are up to now, now that theyre dead.

If otherwise it'd be good to see them revisiting dead characters like...uhhh...Uncle Ben?

Heretic Machine
11-07-2005, 10:46 PM
I've said it once, and I'll say it again: Most comic fans are too jaded to actually enjoy most comics.

Kefkataran
11-08-2005, 12:55 AM
If otherwise it'd be good to see them revisiting dead characters like...uhhh...Uncle Ben?

Peter Milligan's a crazy enough fucker to do it.

Most comic fans are too jaded to actually enjoy most comics.

Baby, not me. Jadedness and cynicism towards art is one of the most annoying things in the world to me. It's why I find it so hard to stand hanging around EvAv. :p WHAT THE FUCK IS THE PROBLEM WITH YOU PEOPLE?

I love all.

bardockkun
11-09-2005, 01:58 AM
I've said it once, and I'll say it again: Most comic fans are too jaded to actually enjoy most comics.
More like just a standard that needs to be reached that has to live up to the histories of the character and all. Like DC gets it by having their big three characters going through mood swings that you just don't associate them and having Earth-2 Superman school them in what a real hero is. At least that's what i thought about the first issue of Infinite Crisis #1 and honestly if you haven't read it, you shouldve.

While something like Avengers Disassembled and HoM just didn't fit because no actions are really justified and fit them. There's just a piece of history that at times can't be tampered unless it makes a really good story that people will remember.

While other times it feels that comic books are relying on pointless shock value that don't advance the character but instead are meant to just sell comics. It's easy to make a big event where alot of "big" events happen, but how the stories and everything is delivered is a different matter. Like in Astonishing X-Men, Colossus's return couldve been written off as another pointless resurrection in comics especially after Scott Lobdell having him written dying for such a noble cause in being a part of the cure for the Legacy Virus without a giant splash page. His return in Astonishing though gave great emotion and interaction between Kitty that it wasn't too over the top and gave meaning to his return.

So it's not that comic book fans are jaded, it's just that we want a good story that isn't just a terrible cash in or spits in the names of the great creators that came beforehand (see the Gwen Stacy booty call thing in Spider-man as an example).

Kefkataran
11-09-2005, 02:10 AM
So it's not that comic book fans are jaded, it's just that we want a good story

That's a good point. I think Perigon has a good point too. I think comic fans (and pop culture fans in general) *are* really jaded right now. It's just an unforunate trend that I think has gotten ridiculously large lately. In the end though, I think the greatest and best-written stories will always rise above even that (such as that Astonishing X-Men mention, or anything written by Vaughan). Hopefully Infinite Crisis will join that list too. The first issue was definitely a stellar start in that direction.

bardockkun
11-10-2005, 12:42 AM
That's a good point. I think Perigon has a good point too. I think comic fans (and pop culture fans in general) *are* really jaded right now. It's just an unforunate trend that I think has gotten ridiculously large lately. In the end though, I think the greatest and best-written stories will always rise above even that (such as that Astonishing X-Men mention, or anything written by Vaughan). Hopefully Infinite Crisis will join that list too. The first issue was definitely a stellar start in that direction.
It reminds me of this fake Toyfare article entitled "New Study: Comic Fans Hate Comic Books" with ""Comic book fan" actually an oxymoron." So sad, yet so many people i'm sure can relate to that.

More like it's just a problem with how fans are more skeptical in things happening in a comic book and with it staying like that. Was I the only one who thought they were a few years too late in bringing back Hal Jordan? I mean i loved Rebirth and read the current new series and all, but i was completly fine with Kyle Rayner being the current main Green Lantern and all.

Kefkataran
11-10-2005, 09:36 AM
Holy Fucking Shit Infinite Crisis #2 Was Awesome.

Deadend
11-10-2005, 10:02 AM
I am disapointed in the Ultimate Universe. Doing story crossovers that jump book to book. That was supposed to be something that the Ultimate books would NOT do. No shitty crossovers that involve buying extra comics. I was supposed to be able to stick to just reading one series and be completely satisfied.

Marvel just loves the giant crossovers that change EVERYTHING! (except the way the stories work). Marvel did not need House of M, and it may not have done any good. In the current world where comics are being made into movies, doing something that would put off non-constant readers even more is quite stupid.

Cupelix
11-10-2005, 10:45 AM
Come on, the Ultimate Universe has not really done any major crossovers. To me a cross over is something where a story runs through two different titles. The worst the Ultimate Universe has had is things such as Ultimate Secret, which is a story all by itself. You don't have to buy it, but it enhances the universe's story.

Sure, putting the pieces of the Vision's story across all the Ultimate books is a marketing ploy - but from what I understand, the Vision stories are at the back of each story. If you don't give a shit about the Ultimate Vision, don't buy the other books, its as simple as that.

Kefkataran
11-10-2005, 11:10 AM
Come on, the Ultimate Universe has not really done any major crossovers. To me a cross over is something where a story runs through two different titles.

Actually, the Ultimate Vision story is what he's surely referring to. It's a 6-part story being split across all the Ultimate U titles, and it's a sidestory of the Ultimate Galactus trilogy that's going on. So if you want all of that, you'll need to buy every Ultimate U title.

If you don't give a shit about the Ultimate Vision, don't buy the other books, its as simple as that.

But if you DO give a shit about it, you DO have to buy all the books for just the tiny portion of the story that's in them, even if you're not interested at all in that book's story. That, my friend, is really lame. Don't get me wrong, I'm far from a Marvel hater, but I gotta say this was a pretty stupid move on their part.

bardockkun
11-10-2005, 01:53 PM
Holy Fucking Shit Infinite Crisis #2 Was Awesome.
It's going to make waiting for the next month into a living hell. Especially knowing it's still only setting things up.

Kefkataran
11-10-2005, 05:13 PM
It's going to make waiting for the next month into a living hell. Especially knowing it's still only setting things up.

I cannot believe how top-notch Johns's writing is staying. That Clark Kent (our Clark Kent)/Lois scene? And the Batman/Alfred scene? Goddamn. I'm insanely curious to see what exactly is being set up here. And that One Year Later gap is sounding more and more cool.

bardockkun
11-11-2005, 12:46 AM
*IC #2 SPOILERS if you havent read it yet*

Especially in the previews page for the next issue. Still so curious as to what Earth-2 Superman's intentions are the most. Meaning is he going to cause the destruction of the current earth or what. Also what he wants with Batman according to the preview page. Goddamn so many questions keep popping up. Especially with the Joker's appearance now and Animal-man looking like he's going to be a main player in IC.

Dammit this series is pulling me in more and more, especially Deathstroke's plans and everything else. Goddamn a month can not seem further away. Marvel really only wishes to be able to do massive crossover type events like this, especially of this scope.

Kefkataran
11-11-2005, 10:04 AM
Especially with the Joker's appearance now and Animal-man looking like he's going to be a main player in IC.


Here's hoping that they don't just kill off Animal Man. He deserves to live. And Joker's scene was fucking AWESOME. Absolutely the best I've ever seen Joker written. He's never looked cooler. Can't wait to see how he ends up playing a part. I can see him taking down one or both of the Luthors at the end.

bardockkun
11-12-2005, 02:31 AM
Here's hoping that they don't just kill off Animal Man. He deserves to live. And Joker's scene was fucking AWESOME. Absolutely the best I've ever seen Joker written. He's never looked cooler. Can't wait to see how he ends up playing a part. I can see him taking down one or both of the Luthors at the end.
Well according to Dan Dido or however you spell his name, he accidently said Adam Strange will be one of the survivors (or so far only known one).

Joker, wow, i'm guessing Joker's really getting up to scale on there with actually being on par with Batman in terms of fighting skill according to him taking down the Royal Flush Gang. Makes me all the more curious to see how he'll turn out in this in the end.

Really, I don't want to see any of my favorite DC heroes get killed off or become a casualty. Though, if they do I know they'll go in a memorable way (or they damn well better). Like rumors or not, I'll see how it turns out and with what happens in the end. Though I don't know about you, but im hoping Detective Chimp turns out to be the new Spectre.

Kefkataran
11-12-2005, 02:48 AM
There's an article up on Newsarama about the post-One Year Later JSA arc that reveals several survivors too, including a few big ones like Power Girl.

Me, I'm hoping Detective Chimp gets a slew of new series. He should be what Infinite Crisis is all about. DC = Detective Comics? No way! The new DC = Detective Chimp!

bardockkun
11-12-2005, 03:48 AM
Well it's a goddamn talking monkey that's a detective, what's not to love.

I'm suprised they realize the potential in this now. He should be the one getting a TV show not Krypto.