DS Rumble Pack!

[TrackZero]

Just announced (http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000830064049/) over on Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/):

The GBA-cartridge-sized Rumble Pak to be packed in with Metroid Prime Pinball for the Nintendo DS has been revealed. Whether it will be included with other DS cards or not has not yet been announced.

According to an alleged developer of Metroid Prime: Hunters on the subscription-based boards at IGN, the Rumble Pak will be supported by the upcoming DS FPS, and support is planned. If you’re an IGN Insider, check out this thread (http://boards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=101101970&start=101128210) for confirmation.
http://www.evilavatar.com/images/thumbs/ds-rumble.jpg

Sweet. That came out of left field to me, but it's an great idea.

[Heretic Machine]

You know, I'm not one of those people who turn off rumbling on console games... But at the same time, I'm really not inclined to buy something for a rumble pack, or to allow my GBA slot to be taken up by the rumble pack. Bleh...

[TrackZero]

You know, I'm not one of those people who turn off rumbling on console games... But at the same time, I'm really not inclined to buy something for a rumble pack, or to allow my GBA slot to be taken up by the rumble pack. Bleh...

Well it kind of comes with it for free, I'd expect it's coming with the retail version of Hunters as well.

[NoName]

You know, I'm not one of those people who turn off rumbling on console games... But at the same time, I'm really not inclined to buy something for a rumble pack, or to allow my GBA slot to be taken up by the rumble pack. Bleh...
Because it's important to keep your favorite GBA game in the slot just incase the DS game you're playing gets boring? :confused:
This seems like a wonderful use of the GBA slot to me, I hope it's something developers pick up and start adding into their games. I wonder how it'll effect battery life.

[jacktion]

Ign said it sucked though. It was super loud and didn't shake the system at all. I hope theirs was just defective. Are there any links to other hands on reviews?

[A-Team]

The Rumble Pack also works on Mario & Luigi: Lost in Time.

[HumpYourWay]

Newsposter: "Sweet. That came out of left field to me, but it's an great idea."

Lol you nintendo guys are hilarious.... Whats good about that rumblepack?!?!?!

"Either our cartridge is broken, or the DS Rumble Pak is one of the noisiest Rumble Paks Nintendo has ever built. When playing Metroid Prime Pinball, we can hear the rumble mechanism more than we can feel the rumble effects in the system. It's so loud, in fact, that it sounds like a metallic "chirp" whenever the rumble is activated. We'd rather just not put it in the system at all. Good thing it's free, because at this point we wouldn't bother buying it as an extra."

Bottom Line: IT SUCKS BIG TIME

But the quality fits perfect to the quality of the DS screens. Both sub-par.

[DaedalusFolly]

Because it's important to keep your favorite GBA game in the slot just incase the DS game you're playing gets boring?

I do. Infact, I probably play GBA games just as much as DS games. As for the rumble, hope it works wells, hope everyone likes it, knock yourself out... I can't fucking stand rumble personally.

[NoName]

But the quality fits perfect to the quality of the DS screens. Both sub-par.
I don't know what annoys me more, your alias or your trolling...

[Kefkataran]

The Rumble Pack also works on Mario & Luigi: Lost in Time.

Aww yeah!

Lol you nintendo guys are hilarious.... Whats good about that rumblepack?!?!?!

Lol you trollz r hilarous!!1

[TrackZero]

Newsposter: "Sweet. That came out of left field to me, but it's an great idea."

Lol you nintendo guys are hilarious.... Whats good about that rumblepack?!?!?!

"Either our cartridge is broken, or the DS Rumble Pak is one of the noisiest Rumble Paks Nintendo has ever built. When playing Metroid Prime Pinball, we can hear the rumble mechanism more than we can feel the rumble effects in the system. It's so loud, in fact, that it sounds like a metallic "chirp" whenever the rumble is activated. We'd rather just not put it in the system at all. Good thing it's free, because at this point we wouldn't bother buying it as an extra."

Bottom Line: IT SUCKS BIG TIME

But the quality fits perfect to the quality of the DS screens. Both sub-par.

Go bother people on the Gamespot forums, it's where your kind breeds.

[Rakael]

I swear to god, the day of the bricking drawns nigh!

[Paltry]

Would I really be trolling if I said vibrations add little to nothing to the game experiance? Especially with a handheld...

[Hg-203]

The one thing I would wonder about a rumble pack on the DS thought the GBA port would be the possibility that it rattles so much that it could, theoretically, break the soldering on GBA port itself there by rendering the port useless. Anyone know how well that port is reinforced or is this just a non-issue. I don't own a DS my self, but I am a Nintendo fanboy so try not to take this as a flame, more of a question.

[Paltry]

but yeah that hump dude is a complete cammomile d-bag if ya know what im sayin

[NoName]

Would I really be trolling if I said vibrations add little to nothing to the game experiance? Especially with a handheld...
No, that'd be stating your opinion, which is perfectly valid. Don't worry, there seems to be other people willing to troll for you ;)

[Sl1pstream]

I wonder what effect this will have on the touchscreen. I guess this won't be such a problem in a pinball game or M&L, but when I'm using the stylus in Hunters, it could be a bad thing.

[Bone]

Calling hump a douchebag is an insult to feminine hygiene products everywhere. While the douchebag delivers some unspeakable "freshness", he brings only a stabbing pain to my head like an angry, retarded bee let loose in my skull cavity.

[Abednigo]

The one thing I would wonder about a rumble pack on the DS thought the GBA port would be the possibility that it rattles so much that it could, theoretically, break the soldering on GBA port itself there by rendering the port useless. Anyone know how well that port is reinforced or is this just a non-issue. I don't own a DS my self, but I am a Nintendo fanboy so try not to take this as a flame, more of a question.

Well, I'm not sure if this answers your question, but a GBA game fits in their pretty snug. They seem to have it put together pretty tight.

And I'm not too worried about the rumble pack. I was planning on getting Metroid Pinball anyway (what a cool idea!) And the fact that the rumble pack comes with it for free is just an added bonus. If it works great and I like it, great. If not, no biggie. I'm sure any problems that IGN had will be ironed out before it's released.

[NoName]

If it works great and I like it, great. If not, no biggie. I'm sure any problems that IGN had will be ironed out before it's released.
This is true, Nintendo (For the most part) has good QA on their products. If anyone can make it work well in the end it's them.

[Heretic Machine]

Guys, even if you like rumble features, think about the damage it could do to your handheld. Imagine having your Gamecube jumping about in your hand. Besides that, it's the friggin DS, I don't want it to be rumbling while I'm using the stylus. Ever try to play the DS in the car on a gravel road? It's pretty much impossible unless the stylus isn't required.

[Dafizman]

FPS games have been doing this thing for years where when you get "hit" your screen shakes, adding the impression of bullets "distracting you". I myself find bullets to be distracting, so I suppose this adds some element of realism. It would be cool if rumble technology, or "rum-tech" as I've just called it, advanced to the point where when you were hit, the screen no longer had to have the "shake" effect, because the controller (or whole system in the ds case) shook so much, it added that "distraction factor". Electric shocks would work well too. I've had a few controllers that implemented that feature over time.

[Steve_Erhardt]

But the quality fits perfect to the quality of the DS screens. Both sub-par.
The DS screens aren't as sweet as the PSP screen, but I wouldn't call them sub-par. :rolleyes:

[pacmanfever]

Guys, even if you like rumble features, think about the damage it could do to your handheld. Imagine having your Gamecube jumping about in your hand. Besides that, it's the friggin DS, I don't want it to be rumbling while I'm using the stylus. Ever try to play the DS in the car on a gravel road? It's pretty much impossible unless the stylus isn't required.

you're kidding, right? because if you've ever used a controller with a rumble feature, you'd hardly describe it as "jumping about in your hand".

[Bone]

For a better impression of the rumble pak than IGN's, check here: http://www.planetgamecube.com/impressions.cfm?action=profile&id=774

I'll wait until I've actually used the rumble to pass judgment.

[NoName]

For a better impression of the rumble pak than IGN's, check here: http://www.planetgamecube.com/impressions.cfm?action=profile&id=774

I'll wait until I've actually used the rumble to pass judgment.
Thanks for the linkage and giving me new hope...

[Abednigo]

For a better impression of the rumble pak than IGN's, check here: http://www.planetgamecube.com/impressions.cfm?action=profile&id=774

I'll wait until I've actually used the rumble to pass judgment.

Wow, that article says "Written: 05/20/2005". How did so many people miss this?

[HumpYourWay]

I am a troll because I write the truth? LOL, you Nin guys really are hilarious.

Read the review yourselfs
http://ds.ign.com/articles/659/659378p1.html
"Either our cartridge is broken, or the DS Rumble Pak is one of the noisiest Rumble Paks Nintendo has ever built. When playing Metroid Prime Pinball, we can hear the rumble mechanism more than we can feel the rumble effects in the system. It's so loud, in fact, that it sounds like a metallic "chirp" whenever the rumble is activated. We'd rather just not put it in the system at all. Good thing it's free, because at this point we wouldn't bother buying it as an extra."

And dont tell me the DS screens are anything else than mediocre. The viewing angle is amazingly bad and the brightness of the screen with the touchpad functionality is too low...
Sorry if I am a troll because of posting facts then I am happy to be called a troll by you Nin c*ck sm*kers. :cool:

[HumpYourWay]

For a better impression of the rumble pak than IGN's, check here: http://www.planetgamecube.com/impressions.cfm?action=profile&id=774

Better impression?!?

"One major surprise is that some copies of Metroid Prime Pinball on the show floor feature rumble capability. Yes, rumble as in force feedback like Pokemon Pinball. This obviously couldn't be built into the tiny DS packs, so I had a look underneath the DS playing the game and it has a GBA cartridge plugged in as well. I figured that the GBA cartridge is the one doing the rumbling, and this was later confirmed by PGC chum Chris Kohler. Apparently Chris saw someone booting up a DS with Metroid Prime Pinball in it, and the initial selection screen said that there was a "GBA Option Pak" in the GBA cartridge slot. I'm not sure whether or not Nintendo will sell this stand-alone Rumble Pak for use with rumble-enabled games, but it definitely exists. Hopefully, it will be a pack-in when Metroid Prime Pinball is released, because it works like a charm."

Lol. "It works like a charm" ?!?! This little sentence serves as a better impression? The word fanboy is hereby newly invented!

Works like a charm? Read this:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/
"Our foes at IGN have an article about the Pak you might be interested to read - I thought mine might have been defective as well, because the rumble (which they accurately call a "chirp") is audible over the sound of the game. I leave it in the machine for now, I like what it adds, but if I ever take the DS someplace I always put a GBA favorite in that slot - an extra "clip," if you will."

Bone, just calling me names and not providing some "meat" in your posts makes you look pretty pretty cheap :p

[Abednigo]

Works like a charm? Read this:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/
"Our foes at IGN have an article about the Pak you might be interested to read - I thought mine might have been defective as well, because the rumble (which they accurately call a "chirp") is audible over the sound of the game. I leave it in the machine for now, I like what it adds, but if I ever take the DS someplace I always put a GBA favorite in that slot - an extra "clip," if you will."



Funny how you only highlighted the negative. You see that Tycho also says, "I LIKE WHAT IT ADDS".

The fact is, it's going to be packed in, for free, with Metroid Pinball. Until I use it for myself I'm going to just assume it will work fine. Have you used it yet?

You're becoming the new PwnMasterMark... :rolleyes:

[Steve_Erhardt]

And dont tell me the DS screens are anything else than mediocre. The viewing angle is amazingly bad and the brightness of the screen with the touchpad functionality is too low...
I tend to look at the screens dead-on, but I'm crazy that way. I do the same thing with TVs. It's nutty, but I figure looking at any display from any angle greater than zero when it can otherwise be avoided is... dumb; and if you can't manage a zero angle view on your handheld gaming device... um... :D

As for the brightness/touchpad functionality... never had a problem or complaint there, either. I'm starting to think you got a bum unit. If it's still under warranty you might want to think about sending it in to get looked at.

[NoName]

I am a troll because I write the truth? LOL, you Nin guys really are hilarious.

Sorry if I am a troll because of posting facts then I am happy to be called a troll by you Nin c*ck sm*kers. :cool:
So everything you write is obviously the truth and not your opinion. I don't see this thread filled with fanboys going OMG best evaR!!1!1

Most of the comments in this thread have been pretty skeptical on the idea. Considering none of us have actually used it all we can post right now is our thoughts and opinions, which obviously insult you.

Here's a troll for you, why don't you go get a freakin life. Civx was a better troll than you, you're just lame.

[NoName]

If it's still under warranty you might want to think about sending it in to get looked at.
ROFL, I think HumpYourWayToTheTop might need to get more than just his DS looked at... oh damn, I'm trolling again aren't I :rolleyes:

[Heretic Machine]

No has explained how you're supposed to use your stylus while your system is rumbling. I'll tell you right now it's not going to work well at all. Just have a friend drive you down a gravel road while you use the stylus.

This is a stupid idea.

[thecrazyd]

No has explained how you're supposed to use your stylus while your system is rumbling. I'll tell you right now it's not going to work well at all. Just have a friend drive you down a gravel road while you use the stylus.

This is a stupid idea.
I would assume it is not that powerfull a vibration. Does your Game Cube controller fly around while vibrating? No, it is pretty subtle. I doubt it would compare to a situation where your whole body is shaking, i.e. driving down a gravel road.

[Furtive]

Rumble with the stylus may or may not prove to be a pain in the ass but as for rumble in handheld games in general I'm all for it. The rumble in WarioWare Twisted was dead on. It provided alot of solid feedback without being over-powering.

[critch]

Better impression?!?

"One major surprise is that some copies of Metroid Prime Pinball on the show floor feature rumble capability. Yes, rumble as in force feedback like Pokemon Pinball. This obviously couldn't be built into the tiny DS packs, so I had a look underneath the DS playing the game and it has a GBA cartridge plugged in as well. I figured that the GBA cartridge is the one doing the rumbling, and this was later confirmed by PGC chum Chris Kohler. Apparently Chris saw someone booting up a DS with Metroid Prime Pinball in it, and the initial selection screen said that there was a "GBA Option Pak" in the GBA cartridge slot. I'm not sure whether or not Nintendo will sell this stand-alone Rumble Pak for use with rumble-enabled games, but it definitely exists. Hopefully, it will be a pack-in when Metroid Prime Pinball is released, because it works like a charm."

Lol. "It works like a charm" ?!?! This little sentence serves as a better impression? The word fanboy is hereby newly invented!

Works like a charm? Read this:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/
"Our foes at IGN have an article about the Pak you might be interested to read - I thought mine might have been defective as well, because the rumble (which they accurately call a "chirp") is audible over the sound of the game. I leave it in the machine for now, I like what it adds, but if I ever take the DS someplace I always put a GBA favorite in that slot - an extra "clip," if you will."

Bone, just calling me names and not providing some "meat" in your posts makes you look pretty pretty cheap :p


So we have one good review, one bad review, how is that different from, oh, EVERY OTHER THING EVER?

Jeez, just because you don't like the DS, doesn't mean you have to rip into everything that goes along with it. Or perhaps you're just jealous of the fact that the DS actually is used for playing new games, is outselling the competition, and doesn't break in a stiff wind.

[Abednigo]

No has explained how you're supposed to use your stylus while your system is rumbling. I'll tell you right now it's not going to work well at all. Just have a friend drive you down a gravel road while you use the stylus.

This is a stupid idea.

thecrazyD is right. The problem with the gravel road comparison is that your whole body is moving. Even without the rumble cart it would be nearly impossible to use. Controllers don't vibrate that violently to disrupt gameplay, what makes you think this will?

[NoName]

No has explained how you're supposed to use your stylus while your system is rumbling. I'll tell you right now it's not going to work well at all. Just have a friend drive you down a gravel road while you use the stylus.

This is a stupid idea.
Sounds like a PSP ad! ;)

*Show person trying to play a DS while in a car going down a gravel road on a rainy day*
Voice: Do you really want to be playing something like this...
*Pan to a person playing a PSP on a nice sunny beach with lots of scantily clothed women walking around*
Voice: When you could be playing this!

[Bone]

Hump.. you are a sad little boy. I own a PSP and DS, and have no need to pretend that one of them is an extension of my penis. I can compare them and even admit faults in both without getting violently retarded like you.

You keep bringing up a quote from IGN as if it was Scripture. I posted an article that had no complaints with the rumble, to bring a little balance. It is possible that IGN's wasn't working properly, right? Either way, what you consider to be "fact" is really just opinion, and yours isn't holding much weight due to your ranting.

To say that the DS screens are sub-par, and call it a fact- that's idiotic. The screens are smaller on the DS... but there are TWO. So there are ways to make games that use them effectively, while different from a PSP game. Trauma Center is a good example, you have a nurse giving you instructions on a top screen while you operate.

Neither the PSP or the DS works out in the sunlight for me. By that argument, they are both sub-par... yet I enjoy them both.

[Abednigo]

Hump.. you are a sad little boy. I own a PSP and DS, and have no need to pretend that one of them is an extension of my penis. I can compare them and even admit faults in both without getting violently retarded like you.

You keep bringing up a quote from IGN as if it was Scripture. I posted an article that had no complaints, to bring a little balance. It is possible that IGN's wasn't working properly, right? Either way, what you consider to be "fact" is really just opinion, and yours isn't holding much weight due to your ranting.

You just got poned!

For those that don't get jokes, here's what I just did...

That's like pwned, but different and using Bone's username.

;)

[Bone]

Would that make me the new ponemasta?

[Abednigo]

Would that make me the new ponemasta?

Oh gosh no, I wouldn't lump you in with that moron. ;)

[Steve_Erhardt]

No has explained how you're supposed to use your stylus while your system is rumbling. I'll tell you right now it's not going to work well at all. Just have a friend drive you down a gravel road while you use the stylus.

This is a stupid idea.
While I don't think it's a good comparison (problems with it already being laid out by others a few posts ago), I can see what you're saying. You might be right.

But, it IS an optional thing in the first place. If you're using the touchscreen and the rumble is giving you trouble, I'd just yank it. No biggie.

I don't think it's a stupid idea. Not the greatest or coolest thing ever, but not stupid.

[jacktion]

Neither the PSP or the DS works out in the sunlight for me. By that argument, they are both sub-par... yet I enjoy them both.

And to add to your argument against this infamous Mr. Hump, par is considered to be average, so it is impossible for both to be sub-par. If they both work badly in sunlight than that is the standard. Any other screens that work well in sunlight are considered exceptional. So we could say that Mr. Hump is upset that the screens are not above-average, exceptionally wonderful screens. Which is an odd thing to get upset about but than maybe Mr. Hump has very high standards. He probably holds himself and others to very rigorous and demanding levels of perfection, and when he fails to measure up he justifiably flagellates himself in his bedroom to purify his sins. Is that right Mr. Hump?

[Heretic Machine]

Although your entire body won't be moving, you will only be holding the DS with one hand. It's going to have no support on one side if you hold it anything like I do, plus there will be preasure on the touch screen. This isn't normally a problem, but with internal vibration coming from the rumble pack I see this has being a very big issue.

But whatever, I wasn't planning on buying either of the Metroid games anyway. Animal Crossing for the win.

[bapenguin]

Eh....this just screams gimmick to me. My cart slot on my DS is occupied my SMB...and it will never leave it...not for no rumble pack! :)

[Steve_Erhardt]

Although your entire body won't be moving, you will only be holding the DS with one hand. It's going to have no support on one side if you hold it anything like I do, plus there will be preasure on the touch screen. This isn't normally a problem, but with internal vibration coming from the rumble pack I see this has being a very big issue.

But whatever, I wasn't planning on buying either of the Metroid games anyway. Animal Crossing for the win.
Ah, gotcha. Didn't occur to me that way, since I don't use the stylus... I use the thumbpad (leaving the rest of my hand to cradle/control/hold the other side).

[Heretic Machine]

Kotaku have posted their initial impressions of the game and the pack.

Metroid Prime Pinball: A Quick Hands On (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/brian-c/index.php#metroid-prime-pinball-a-quick-hands-on-131945)
Just received a copy of Metroid Prime Pinball in the mail. I’ve only had a chance to play one game, but what I saw I really, really liked. The rumble pack fits snuggly into the GBA slot and the game fits into the DS slot. The rumble effect wasn’t over the top, just subtle enough to make you feel like your were playing a real game of pinball.

The game is packed with power-ups, special modes and even a chance to pop Samus out of ball form and do some jumping and blasting.

My only nag at this point is that there seems to be a very slight delay when the ball shoots from the bottom of the field to the top of the field, which are displayed on different screens. It’s not a biggie, but was throwing my timing off for some of the shots. I’m sure I will get used to it.

I didn’t try this yet in play, but touching the screen bumps the table, which sounds like a nice control mechanic.

Now that we have comments, feel free to fire up some questions about the game and I’ll try to answer them.


Ps. Yes, the “I scored with Samus” is printed on a T-shirt.

[Opty]

So, when Nintendo added rumble to Pokemon Pinball Yellow it was a great idea! With Wario Ware Twisted, it was inspired, but a rumble pak that works with more than one game is a bad idea? What are you people on? And worrying about it breaking the GBA slot from too much rumble, are you serious?

[Abednigo]

Kotaku have posted their initial impressions of the game and the pack.

Metroid Prime Pinball: A Quick Hands On (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/brian-c/index.php#metroid-prime-pinball-a-quick-hands-on-131945)

You just got Perigwnd!

Sorry, I'm bored here at work. I have to entertain myself somehow.

[Heretic Machine]

So, when Nintendo added rumble to Pokemon Pinball Yellow it was a great idea! With Wario Ware Twisted, it was inspired, but a rumble pak that works with more than one game is a bad idea? What are you people on? And worrying about it breaking the GBA slot from too much rumble, are you serious?

I never said it was a good idea in any of those cases <.<

[NoName]

You just got Perigwnd!
I don't think the site can handle much more ownage. There can only be one master and he's thankfully gone.

[Abednigo]

I don't think the site can handle much more ownage. There can only be one master and he's thankfully gone.

I just got Nwnd...

Oh forget it, you're right.

:D

And no, I'm not 15. I'm almost 31. It's a tragedy that I should be this bored at work...

[UnderHero5]

I too am wondering what some of you guys are thinking.
I own Wario Ware Twisted and I'm assuming Metroid Pinball will use a similar rumble technology as that did.

If that's the case (which it seems to be, seeings as a swinging weight system (ala console controllers) just wouldn't fit into a GBA cart) then you really have nothing to worry about as far as the strength of the rumble goes.
It's more of a vibration, not this huge jerking that's going to fling the DS out of your hands. What the hell is wrong with you guys?

When's the last time you even felt a standard console controller rumble so much it flew from your hands? or even came close...

It's going to be a slight vibration.
I think it's a good idea, especially as a free pack in.

And as for it damaging the DS?
Now that's just foolish. Don't be stupid.

[NoName]

When's the last time you even felt a standard console controller rumble so much it flew from your hands? or even came close...

It's going to be a slight vibration.
I think it's a good idea, especially as a free pack in.

And as for it damaging the DS?
Now that's just foolish. Don't be stupid.
Bah, you had to go and be all logical. Trying to spoil the fun of the heavily derailed thread... o.0
(aka. I agree with your thoughts)

[51|RandoM]

When you're bored at work, it can be mildly entertaining to watch the anti-nintendo rabble scramble to assemble a bit of FUD to combat each neat new idea that comes out for/by nintendo.

Guess what? It doesn't matter whether or not you think it is a good idea, or if you like it as a feature. Making that gba slot useful for more than just gba games is a great idea. If you don't think so, you're blind, retarded, a troll, or some frankenstein combo of the three.

[thecrazyd]

When you're bored at work, it can be mildly entertaining to watch the anti-nintendo rabble scramble to assemble a bit of FUD to combat each neat new idea that comes out for/by nintendo.

Guess what? It doesn't matter whether or not you think it is a good idea, or if you like it as a feature. Making that gba slot useful for more than just gba games is a great idea. If you don't think so, you're blind, retarded, a troll, or some frankenstein combo of the three.
That is offensive to blind, retarded trolls!

[Abednigo]

To bring things back on topic, I love my DS. Castlevania alone has made it worth buying. I still want a PSP, but there is nothing available for it yet that remotely compares to Dawn of Sorrow. Unless I'm missing something...

[Syl]

hm. I need a new pinball game, and I'm a metroid whore.

If anyone is having the chance to have a copy of it, is it more similar to the craptastic mario pinball? Or the surprisingly fun and addicting Pokemon Pinball titles?

Heh, I still have pokemon pinball red/green, that had a rumble cartridge too.

[Bone]

No kidding Syl, Mario Pinball was ass. I'm still playing Pinball of the Dead for the GBA, that was a solid pinball game... with zombies!

[31 Flavas]

Funny how you only highlighted the negative. You see that Tycho also says, "I LIKE WHAT IT ADDS".

The fact is, it's going to be packed in, for free, with Metroid Pinball. Until I use it for myself I'm going to just assume it will work fine. Have you used it yet?

You're becoming the new PwnMasterMark... :rolleyes:I bet he feels like StarwberryPussyPants using the rumble too. Guess I can't blame him for bashing it then.

[Heretic Machine]

When's the last time you even felt a standard console controller rumble so much it flew from your hands? or even came close...

Point out where I said this. I was just pointing out that it's going to shake enough that it will disrupt writing with the stylus, which doesn't have to be much at all.

[thecrazyd]

Point out where I said this. I was just pointing out that it's going to shake enough that it will disrupt writing with the stylus, which doesn't have to be much at all.
If it did, that would be a horrible design flaw. I can guarantee you that this will be a very subtle vibration.

[31 Flavas]

No has explained how you're supposed to use your stylus while your system is rumbling. I'll tell you right now it's not going to work well at all. Just have a friend drive you down a gravel road while you use the stylus.

This is a stupid idea.Ok explain to me how pinball is played with a stylus? It isn't. The flippers are button activated and only when you activate some bonus does the stylus come into play, AFAIK. The system probably doesn't rumble then.

Take a chill pill man...

[Bone]

I would also think that games requiring stylus control would avoid the rumble feature. Most action games that require rumble aren't the kind where you are making accurate symbols anyway.

I could see a game like Trauma Center not benefitting from rumble, because that's probably the most sensitive use of the touchscreen I've seen yet. But again, the rumble pak is now something that CAN be used, like many other features of the DS that don't HAVE to be used- but are available if you want them.

[Rakael]

Trauma Center make Rakael smash things!

Yeah, Trauma Center doesn't need anything else to make it even more infuriating. Still hooked though!

[31 Flavas]

I would also think that games requiring stylus control would avoid the rumble feature. Most action games that require rumble aren't the kind where you are making accurate symbols anyway.Or the game would rumble specifically when your not using the stylus.

(i.e. cue rumble while video of game boss castle collapsing is playing)

I could see a game like Trauma Center not benefitting from rumble, because that's probably the most sensitive use of the touchscreen I've seen yet.Again it could be used to re-enforce cutscenes or rumble when you fail an operation, screw up a seuture, or to let an aneurism rupture.

But again, the rumble pak is now something that CAN be used, like many other features of the DS that don't HAVE to be used- but are available if you want them.Right, if the game developers make stupid rumble decisions in their game, just take it out. Other DS game developers are bound to make good rumble use.

[Dabombpizza]

I still want a PSP, but there is nothing available for it yet that remotely compares to Dawn of Sorrow. Unless I'm missing something...

FF: Advent children? Oh wait, you can get that on a DVD and play it on a real screen. I completely agree with you Abednigo. I have often looked enviously upon the screen of the PSP with it's little analog nipple, but I can't find a game that is fun for it. I bought a DS a couple weeks ago for Trauma Center and now own Meteos and Advanced Wars too. The little things roxxors my boxxors. It's so unfortunate to see the PSP shift focus to multimedia when they have such killer hardware.

But back to the topic. The rumble pack, or at least the very idea of extending the functionality of the DS is a brilliant one. It worries me that IGN and PA report the chirping noise, but then again this is first generation and we all know how first gen hardware works (PS2, PSP, XBOX, etc...). Nintendo is a company that doesn't release half ass stuff, so I'm betting that by the time it gets to my greedy little hands (actually they're quite large) it will work wonderfully.

And I wouldn't worry about disrupting stylus play. First, the vibration is going to be small, look how small the cartridge is. And it's probrably going to add to the aformentioned "distraction factor". People have said how this would suck with trauma center, but I disagree. It's not like the little thing would be rumbling the entire time your playing, only when you miss or a GUILT creates a cut. If you recall, the screen SHAKES preventing you from interacting with it anyway, which would be a perfect place to rumble.

[Dabombpizza]

Again it could be used to re-enforce cutscenes or rumble when you fail an operation, screw up a seuture, or to let an aneurism rupture.


Damn your speed!

[Heretic Machine]

Ok explain to me how pinball is played with a stylus? It isn't. The flippers are button activated and only when you activate some bonus does the stylus come into play, AFAIK. The system probably doesn't rumble then.

Take a chill pill man...

Metriod Prime Hunters. 'nuff said.

[31 Flavas]

Metriod Prime Hunters. 'nuff said.If it actually does throw your aim off Perigon, go ahead and play without the rumble pack. I'll write you a permission slip and everything.

[Dabombpizza]

People seem to be aproaching this rumblepack with the idea that you put it in, boot up your game, and then it starts rumbling consistently for the entirety of the game. It's only going to happen on certain actions. With hunters, when you get shot you're going to get a jolt. Not so much that your aim is screwed up, that's just silly.

[Bone]

Metriod Prime Hunters. 'nuff said.
What? You played the Metroid demo with the stylus and not the thumb pad thing? You're more masochistic than I thought. Do you also clean up broken glass with your dick?

But, like others have said... the rumble pak is not glued into the slot. Take it out if it affects your game!

[NoName]

If it actually does throw your aim off Perigon, go ahead and play without the rumble pack. I'll write you a permission slip and everything.
Oh, you mean if you don't like it you don't have to use it? Who knew. Why is there an argument in this thread again... :confused:

[pacmanfever]

Again it could be used to re-enforce cutscenes or rumble when you fail an operation, screw up a seuture, or to let an aneurism rupture.

operation... you're the doctor!

[mister_slim]

Hmm, sounds like the game treats the area between the two screens as an empty space with no obstacles. I was hoping they'd do that.

[Heretic Machine]

Sounds like some people don't get that I'm just giving my opinion, and not trying to tell them what to do.

[Bone]

You're welcome to your opinion, we're free to mock it :)

[31 Flavas]

Sounds like some people don't get that I'm just giving my opinion, and not trying to tell them what to do.Well are we not giving you our opinion as well?

You were saying that this Rumble pack would damage our DS. Pardon me, but that is just rediculus. Nintendo would not release a rumble pak that would or could vibrate so violently as to cause damage to the DS. Then you dismiss the rumble out right because it would be rumbing at inappropriate times. Again, unless the video game developer is an idiot they won't having the system rumbling inappropriatly.

So were not allowed to counter your opinion with our own?

[Hg-203]

Nintendo would not release a rumble pak that would or could vibrate so violently as to cause damage to the DS.

That damaging your DS statement was probably my hypothetical statement that I made near the 2nd page. It was based off of the idea that power couplers on laptops that break so easily when someone give a hard jar (i.e. tripping over a cable) the cable, thereby destroying the motherboard on the laptop. Someone said that it shouldn’t damage the DS because it should fit really snug into the GBA port.

[31 Flavas]

Well the "damage your DS" line im working off of comes on the 3rd page.



Guys, even if you like rumble features, think about the damage it could do to your handheld. Imagine having your Gamecube jumping about in your hand. Besides that, it's the friggin DS, I don't want it to be rumbling while I'm using the stylus. Ever try to play the DS in the car on a gravel road? It's pretty much impossible unless the stylus isn't required.

[Stormwatcher]

WHAT? Nintendo is GIVING AWAY a rumble cartridge along with a game that seems to be prety good and that could use rumbling very well? DAMN YOU IWATA!!! UR 3V17!!!!
NOTENDO IS TEH KIDZOR!

Ok, really, can you guys realize how lame complaining about the rumble pack is? People really must hate poor nintendo.

[Heretic Machine]

You were saying that this Rumble pack would damage our DS.

No I didn't. I said it "could" damage it, and it definetly could. Saying that vibrating an electronic device poses no risk is just stupid.

Nintendo would not release a rumble pak that would or could vibrate so violently as to cause damage to the DS.

Ya, it's not like they've ever released a flawed product. It's not like I had to give oral sex to my NES to get it to play games.

So were not allowed to counter your opinion with our own?

Sure, with your own opinions on the topic. Not, "PERIGON IS AN IDIOT HAHAHAHA!" or "YOU JUST HATE NINTENDO!"

I don't hate Nintendo. I love Nintendo, they are my favorite console manufacturer. But they aren't perfect, and this does seem like a stupid idea, just like the GBA Micro seems like a stupid idea. I'm not going to let favoritism bias me to the extent that I can't see what seems to be a stupid idea. Maybe it'll work just fine, but I'm skeptical, and I really see it as a worthless feature.

[Last of the Red Hot Mamas]

How exactly could this damage the DS? The Gamecube comparison seems pretty off, seeing how the Gamecube has moving parts whereas the DS is all solid-state stuff. I don't see how this is any riskier than a vibrating cell phone.

[TrackZero]

No has explained how you're supposed to use your stylus while your system is rumbling. I'll tell you right now it's not going to work well at all. Just have a friend drive you down a gravel road while you use the stylus.

This is a stupid idea.

I'd agree, if the games in question really have to use the stylus. Many don't. In which case, it's a nice optional add-on that comes free with a game.

[TrackZero]

Although your entire body won't be moving, you will only be holding the DS with one hand. It's going to have no support on one side if you hold it anything like I do, plus there will be preasure on the touch screen. This isn't normally a problem, but with internal vibration coming from the rumble pack I see this has being a very big issue.

Ah, that explains it then. Personally I hold it with both hands, I just put the weight on the base of my right palm and hook my pinky around the back and use the stylus.

Want to talk about bumpy, try playing your DS on the Toronto subway system every day. Yowza.

[31 Flavas]

No I didn't. I said it "could" damage it, and it definetly could. Saying that vibrating an electronic device poses no risk is just stupid.So, should we then turn off rumble in ALL video games (PS2, GC, and Xbox) because rumble "could", damage the controller? Please give me a break.

[feeble]

If the DS was easily affected by shocks, mine would have been died long ago, as it gets bumped around a fair bit in my bag, with heavy books bashing it around.
also this isnt the first time nintendo has make a rumble feature for a portable, they do know what they are doing.

and the stylus is used to 'bump' the table, probably using the thumb attachment, and i think there will be a few mini games when you hit a certain thing on the board.

also if your worried about the ds vibrating while you are using the stylus, dont be. do you really think developers would say hey lets use the vibrating pack and make them use the stylus?
the rumble pack doesnt go off every secound, it goes off when the developer wants it to.

im more worried about this chirping thing that ign was talking about, hopefully that one was defective, but the real test will be to actually have a go.

[HumpYourWay]

WHAT? Nintendo is GIVING AWAY a rumble cartridge along with a game that seems to be prety good and that could use rumbling very well? DAMN YOU IWATA!!! UR 3V17!!!!
NOTENDO IS TEH KIDZOR!

The problem is that the rumble pack sucks.

[Stormwatcher]

No I didn't. I said it "could" damage it, and it definetly could. Saying that vibrating an electronic device poses no risk is just stupid.

Ya, it's not like they've ever released a flawed product. It's not like I had to give oral sex to my NES to get it to play games.

Sure, with your own opinions on the topic. Not, "PERIGON IS AN IDIOT HAHAHAHA!" or "YOU JUST HATE NINTENDO!"

I don't hate Nintendo. I love Nintendo, they are my favorite console manufacturer. But they aren't perfect, and this does seem like a stupid idea, just like the GBA Micro seems like a stupid idea. I'm not going to let favoritism bias me to the extent that I can't see what seems to be a stupid idea. Maybe it'll work just fine, but I'm skeptical, and I really see it as a worthless feature.

Perigon, you may say that you love nintendo, but you are on of the biggest nintendo nay-sayers here.

All of your opinions on the DS rumble pack WERE dully answered.

It IS silly to bitch about it fubaring the DS, considering how portable rumbling (AKA cell phone vibration) is really old news. It is like bitching about how the Game Cube control might break with the built in vibration.

You probably WON'T be using the stylus along with the rumbling a lot.

And nintendo is, this decade, the best console maker in the resiliency/quality department. Gamecubes and all portables are really well made and solid. Unlike other companies' products, riddled with malfunctions.

You said that the micro was stupid, you were wrong, it is a success. Lot's of people are buying it. You gotta stop figuring that just because somthing isn't interesting to YOU, it won't be a commercial success. You are free to state how much you personally dislike anything, but your conclusions about how well the thing will do are usually wrong...

By Jove! this little FREE hardware addon we're discussing is just that, a free hardware addon. Whay are you so riled up about it?

[NoName]

The problem is that the rumble pack sucks.
Wait, didn't you get sent to time out? What are you doing back here, go sit in the corner :p

[HumpYourWay]

Hump.. you are a sad little boy. I own a PSP and DS, and have no need to pretend that one of them is an extension of my penis. I can compare them and even admit faults in both without getting violently retarded like you.
Huh? How come you start talking about your penis? Got any problems with yours, lol! Just because I'm not very imppressed by that rumble pack you suddenly start penis talk?!? Come on, get a life.
Maybe you should stop spanking your monkey like it ows you money :p
BTW I think a car still is the number one penis extension. But maybe you are not old enough to drive one.... :cool:


You keep bringing up a quote from IGN as if it was Scripture. I posted an article that had no complaints with the rumble, to bring a little balance. It is possible that IGN's wasn't working properly, right?

No its not possible!
Nice how you totally ignored the remarks from www.penny-arcade.com who said the exact same thing. Stop behaving like a boy.
Your article featured impressions from a game show with an overall high noise level where you couldnt hear how horrible the rumble pack sounded. And besides that the rumble pack wasn't talked about in great detail - certainly not as detailed as the penny arcade guys or ign who wrote about it.
Wow, just because I dont think nintendo reinvented the rumble pack you start getting pissed. Haha, that tells me a lot.


To say that the DS screens are sub-par, and call it a fact- that's idiotic.

When I put my DS and my PSP on a table and compare the screens its a far from idiotic remark to be made, you sad little thing. Haha.
http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/9175/pic0001394hv.th.jpg (http://img454.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic0001394hv.jpg)
Sorry you cant deny how bad those DS displays really are.Especially considering the "experience" nintendo has amassed having such a long history in making handhelds. But Nintendo seems to have the experience with you nintendo guys that the level of "quality" is enough for you.

PS: All this talk here about the DS breaking due to the rumble pack is total bullshit, IMHO.

[HumpYourWay]

Wait, didn't you get sent to time out? What are you doing back here, go sit in the corner :p

LOL :eek:

[NoName]

When I put my DS and my PSP on a table and compare the screens its a far from idiotic remark to be made, you sad little thing. Haha. Sorry you cant deny how bad those displays really are.
Especially considering the "experience" nintendo has amassed having such a long history in making handhelds. But Nintendo seems to have the experience with you nintendo guys that the level of "quality" is enough for you.

Wow, you had such a long post but still said nothing worthwhile.

So you don't like your DS? Good for you. No one else is complaining about how bad their screens are. My DS has two very decent screens, thanks. Are you that much of a Sony fanboy?

Anyways, whatever. Your opinion is your own, you can think whatever you like. But attacking other people in the forum over and over because you think your high and mighty opinion is the only one to have is a bit much.

[Stormwatcher]

The fact that the PSP screen is brighter doesn't mean that the DS screens are crap. I'm prefectly satisfied with the DS, had no problems with screen visibility ever. Ok, all you proved is that the PSP screen is brighter. congrats.

[HumpYourWay]

Wow, you had such a long post but still said nothing worthwhile.

Well, look whos talking. Of all NinGuys posts yours were the most boring ones.

So you don't like your DS? Good for you. No one else is complaining about how bad their screens are.

But of course the Nintendo fanboys dont complain, they have no flavor. They are just cheap.

My DS has two very decent screens, thanks. Are you that much of a Sony fanboy?

No but I am a person who expects a certain level of quality. You are a fanboy if you deny that the DS screens are quite mediocre.

Anyways, whatever. Your opinion is your own, you can think whatever you like. But attacking other people in the forum over and over because you think your high and mighty opinion is the only one to have is a bit much.

Wrong, I just posted the IGN impressions of the rumble pack because the original poster said that the pack was "sweet". And the YOU my humble NinFanboys started to attack me because you didnt like the critical review of the rumble pack. Sorry pal, dont bring an anachronism into this thread.

[HumpYourWay]

The fact that the PSP screen is brighter doesn't mean that the DS screens are crap. I'm prefectly satisfied with the DS, had no problems with screen visibility ever. Ok, all you proved is that the PSP screen is brighter. congrats.

And has a higher contrast. And a better viewing angle. And is bigger...
But whatever... thanks for the congrats.

[Bone]

So anyone who disagrees with your idiotic opinion is a Nintendo fanboy?

And yes, I can "deny" that the DS screens are mediocre. I play games on them all the time and never have a problem with their size. The PSP may be brighter but it's a moot point as neither of them work in the sunlight anyway.

How come you start talking about your penis? Got any problems with yours, lol! Just because I'm not very imppressed by that rumble pack you suddenly start penis talk?!?
I called it like I saw it. You've done nothing but wave your PSP around like it makes you a man; but instead, you come off like a 3 year old who just discovered his special purpose.

[Heretic Machine]

Perigon, you may say that you love nintendo, but you are on of the biggest nintendo nay-sayers here.

Bullshit. I've had enough, if you fucktards want to stroke off to this useless feature that Nintendo is chucking at you, fine. It's people like you that give Nintendo fans a bad name.

[Paltry]

It's people like you that give Nintendo fans a bad name.

Hear, all ye good people, hear what this brilliant and eloquent speaker has to say!

[Dafizman]

My game system has a larger penis than your game system.

[31 Flavas]

My game system has a larger penis than your game system.But mine is shinier, more photo-realistic, and has lager capacity. Face it, yours is sub-par.

[Dafizman]

Well mine has TWO of them! Think about that.

[31 Flavas]

Well mine has TWO of them! Think about that.But they are both sub-par to my 1 big bright shiny one. It's a better end-user experience.

[Stormwatcher]

The only bad name for nintendo fans is "perigon". And the rest of your post is utter crap.


And Hump-whatever, Yeah, the PSP screen is better than the DS'. But that doesn't make the DS screen bad. It is pretty good in itself. So just because the Mclaren F1 is better than a Ferrari testarossa, it means that the Ferrari is crap? Don't be stupid.

[Paltry]

My penis has a larger game system than your penis

hah, haha, hahahahaha

get it?

[Kefkataran]

My penis has a larger game system than your penis

No. :(

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