FFXIII Demo In FFVII Advent Children Complete

[Talon-]

Word comes from Square Enix's DKΣ3713 event that Blu-ray re-release of Final Fantasy VII Advent Children will include a demo of the forthcoming Final Fantasy XIII. FFVII ACC is slated for release March of '09 in Japan.

Other relevant announcements:
-Parasite Eve: The Third Birthday for PSP
-Final Fantasy XIII Agito for PSP
-Final Fantasy Versus XIII Exclusive Worldwide for PS3 heh

Release Date announcements (presumably Japan-only):
-Dissidia: Final Fantasy coming December 2008 (Bundle)
-Kingdom Hearts DS this Winter
-Kingdom Hearts PSP on the way

[via (http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1217141_1124.html) Famitsu (http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1217142_1124.html)]

So much for the "huge" news. The two PSP announcements are great for Square Enix fans, though.

[JediSanf]

Parisite Eve! Words cannot express my joy.

[Katslover]

Man, I wish this news actually was about Final Fantasy EIGHT.

[Talon-]

So...there are two major typos in this post. Cookies to the person that finds them.

[Stoke_Ydral]

So...there are two major typos in this post. Cookies to the person that finds them.
Found one of them
Final Fantasy Versus XIII Exclusive Worldwide for PS3 should be:

Final Fantasy Versus XIII Exclusive Worldwide for PS3 and Xbox 360

[Talon-]

In actual tangible news: realtime footage of FFXIII and FF Versus XIII was shown for the first time. Hopefully us Westerners will get the footage soon.

Man, I wish this news actually was about Final Fantasy EIGHT.

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Thanks for the fix, Psykoboy2.

[Katslover]

I enjoy cookies.

[Siraris]

Parisite Eve! Words cannot express my joy.

QFMFT

I cannot wait. Hopefully it will come out here real soon.

[dbh1973]

Another Parasite Eve? More FF love for the PSP? AWESOME NEWS!

[bean19]

FF XIII Versus being exclusive to the PS3 was a bit disappointing until I thought about how it won't be out until 2010. I'm sure I'll have a PS3 within two years. I'll probably have one by the time Advent Children Complete comes out and I'll probably be suckered in to buying it for the FF demo too.

PSP Parasite Eve is a bit disappointing. Maybe they'll announce that it is coming to the PS2 and/or XBLA and PSN as well.

[Sandman]

FF XIII in Fall 2009 confirmed.

[Spigot]

Hooray for Parasite Eve on the PSP. Do it up with at least the quality of Crisis Core and I'll be happy.

Otherwise, nifty on the Blu-Ray stuff. I always like watching Advent Children, if only to gape at the gorgeous graphics. I'll definately snag it on Blu-Ray (I think my entire collection of Blu-Ray is animation aside from Planet Earth).

[Sazime]

Why didn't they talk about this at E3?

[EyesNoMore]

Why didn't they talk about this at E3?
Because E3 was a joke and now they have everyone's undivided attention.

[alienchild]

YES YES YES! Best gaming news this year! I freaking love Parasite Eve :D Um btw, we are talking about a NEW game right? Not a remake?

[jpublic]

Parasite Eve on PSP?!

GOD DAMNIT now I have to buy a PSP.

[AlwaysOn222]

I wonder if SE will release that demo for FFXIII on Xbox Live as well? Would be cool if they did. Also I wonder if we will see the game on 360 next year at all if a fall release is what they aim for PS3. I was hoping for the Xmas 09 but know I don't know, maybe summer 10?

[ghost]

New Parasite Eve? Well, Squeenix, my hat's off to you, because if any game were to ever make a PSP worth it for me, that'd be it. Time to adjust the budget.

[Variable Gear]

Found one of them
Final Fantasy Versus XIII Exclusive Worldwide for PS3 should be:

Final Fantasy Versus XIII Exclusive Worldwide for PS3 and Xbox 360
What, isn't Versus still a PS3 exclusive?

[Gorvi]

More PSP love? Joy! :D

[bean19]

I wonder if SE will release that demo for FFXIII on Xbox Live as well? Would be cool if they did. Also I wonder if we will see the game on 360 next year at all if a fall release is what they aim for PS3. I was hoping for the Xmas 09 but know I don't know, maybe summer 10?
They said FF XIII will have a simultaneous release on both the Xbox 360 and PS3, but do you really expect to still not own a PS3 by Fall 2009?

[Wraith]

So is Agito still going to be a cellphone game, now with a PSP version, or has it moved on to be a PSP-only game?

[Reanimated]

Parasite Eve news is great.

Everything else - meh.

[Sensei-X]

The Parasite Eve news is great but part of me wants to tell Square-Enix to go fuck themselves for not putting it on PS3. This is the game originally announced "exclusively" for cellphones in Japan last year btw.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3159481

[EternalGamer]

I've been playing Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core and FF: Tactics War of the Lions while On vacation and I'm loving both. Crisis Core is like having a sequel to Final Fantasy XII that you can take anywhere. It looks nearly as good with great production values and music. I also love the new action oriented battle system.

If the new Parasite Eve and FFXIII for the PSP are anywhere near as good as their other two PSP titles, this is awesome news.

[Stoke_Ydral]

What, isn't Versus still a PS3 exclusive?

It is. And last year Sony begged me to believe XIII was exclusive. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

[Talon-]

The Parasite Eve news is great but part of me wants to tell Square-Enix to go fuck themselves for not putting it on PS3. This is the game originally announced "exclusively" for cellphones in Japan last year btw.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3159481

The thing is that they announced the game for unreleased cell phone hardware. I mean, we already know that some of the phones they have there are far beyond what we have available.

Also, it's unknown if they scrapped mobile development on both games to make them PSP native. As far as I know, they didn't mention anything about the mobile iterations of either game at this event, so that seems pretty likely. Accord to those at the event, Agito is now an Action-RPG (Monster Hunter competitor?) as opposed to the weird voice/card/action amalgamation it was announced as.

[Talon-]

So is Agito still going to be a cellphone game, now with a PSP version, or has it moved on to be a PSP-only game?

According to some guy that was there, it's a PSP-native game now. I'd wait for some more credible sources, but none of the Famitsu articles seem to mention the mobile edition.

[Deadend]

Square is a weird company.

[Talon-]

IGN (http://psp.ign.com/articles/896/896067p1.html) has posted their coverage of the event. Nothing new from these pieces, but they also speculate on whether Parasite Eve is now PSP native.

[saulob]

Topic title, is it FFVIII or FFVII (Advent Children) ?

[oldjadedgamer]

What, isn't Versus still a PS3 exclusive?

Yup, and FFXIII was a PS3 exclusive less then a month ago too wasn't it? I don't get the Parasite Eve love. I never played the game and just checked Gamerankings and the first one is ranked 76.5% and the second is 79.1%.

Am I missing something about it? Was it a huge cult hit or something. I remember it coming out but I don't remember anyone making a big stink about it at the time.

[RorschachCCCLX]

Advent Children was silly, as was the story for VII anyhow... never did quite understand the huge obession over it..

[Evil Avnovice]

I'd very much like that FF XIII demo. Advent Children was cool [for the fight scenes], but I guess there's probably no other way....:p

[*raoul]

Yup, and FFXIII was a PS3 exclusive less then a month ago too wasn't it? I don't get the Parasite Eve love. I never played the game and just checked Gamerankings and the first one is ranked 76.5% and the second is 79.1%.

Am I missing something about it? Was it a huge cult hit or something. I remember it coming out but I don't remember anyone making a big stink about it at the time.

The first Parasite Eve was a really cool game for its time. Awesome CG, weird story with some unsettling sexual overtones, great art design, an interesting half real-time, half turn-based battle system with a deep weapon creator, and a really hardcore bonus mode.

The second one, not so good. Don't believe the GR scores.

[saulob]

Topic title, is it FFVIII or FFVII (Advent Children) ?

I want my cookie.

[Wolfgang]

Is this the news Shane (of 1up) keeps saying is going to be a huge win for the PS3 or are we expecting something else?

[EyesNoMore]

Is this the news Shane (of 1up) keeps saying is going to be a huge win for the PS3 or are we expecting something else?
I believe he said that SE would be showing some love to Sony in general, so I think PE and Agito for the PSP fit that bill pretty damn well. And a FFXIII demo doesn't hurt.

[Katslover]

I want my cookie.

Cookie is mine, read the thread.

[Talon-]

Yup, and FFXIII was a PS3 exclusive less then a month ago too wasn't it? I don't get the Parasite Eve love. I never played the game and just checked Gamerankings and the first one is ranked 76.5% and the second is 79.1%.

Am I missing something about it? Was it a huge cult hit or something. I remember it coming out but I don't remember anyone making a big stink about it at the time.

Sometimes I wonder if by "jaded" you meant to write "hater." Parasite Eve has a big cult following a la Vagrant Story.

I guess the difference between FFXIII and FF Versus XIII is that the latter explicitly states "Exclusive Worldwide on PS3."

Advent Children was idiotic, but the fight scenes were pretty. Hell, they were basically the only redeeming part of the film. Square's not doing this out of the kindness of its heart. It's doing this because that demo will sell FFVII ACC copies like hotcakes.

[saulob]

Cookie is mine, read the thread.

Damn, I hate you... :mad:

I lost my cookie... :eek: :(

[Magnanimous Gnome]

Sometimes I wonder if by "jaded" you meant to write "hater." Parasite Eve has a big cult following a la Vagrant Story.

Every time I read his posts I get this image in my head of a bitter man locked away in a dark basement.

[Talon-]

Every time I read his posts I get this image in my head of a bitter man locked away in a dark basement.

I want to clarify that that wasn't meant to be a malicious comment. It's just that I always seem to read curmudgeonly posts from OJG. Lighten up, brother. :p

[Variable Gear]

...I get this image in my head of a bitter man locked away in a dark basement.
Sounds hot. :p

[oldjadedgamer]

Sometimes I wonder if by "jaded" you meant to write "hater." Parasite Eve has a big cult following a la Vagrant Story

Actually, it was a choice between "jaded" and "bitter" when making my screen name. Sorry, I've just been around for a very, very long time and have played thousands and thousands of games. In the game world, I'm the guy yelling at the kids to get off my lawn. There is a reason I have the name I do, I don't hide it.

Anyway, I understand the Vagrant Story love. It scored 92% on game rankings.com and I believe got a perfect score from Famitsu back in the day before they started selling those scores to the highest bidder like Nintendogs.

Looking at gamerankings, it was a legitimate question about the game and why it was a big deal. I'll see if I can't find a copy of the first one and fire it up on my PSP to see what the hoopla is about.

[TeeCakes]

OJG, the best thing about Parasite Eve (1, never played two) was the soundtrack, IMO. And I'm a Square fanboy-- so for me to say that the gameplay/storyline/overall game left much to be desired should tell you how underwhelming it is.

I will say that the weapons customization was pretty cool. The game is beatable in a day, though, so an RPG it ain't.

[Spigot]

Anyway, I understand the Vagrant Story love. It scored 92% on game rankings.com and I believe got a perfect score from Famitsu back in the day before they started selling those scores to the highest bidder like Nintendogs.

Looking at gamerankings, it was a legitimate question about the game and why it was a big deal. I'll see if I can't find a copy of the first one and fire it up on my PSP to see what the hoopla is about.Parasite Eve was a very strange but well made game back in the glory days of Square... you know, before they started riding the FF gravy train into the ground.

It wasn't perfect but it was quite a good game, esp. for its time. I'll admit that I probably haven't played either PE game since 1999-2000, so who know how much of my enjoyment was due to the fact that they were solid adventure/RPG/survival horror-style games for that era.

And a 75%+ is nothing to sneeze at. It might not be perfect but neither game was a stinker by any means.

[Talon-]

Actually, it was a choice between "jaded" and "bitter" when making my screen name. Sorry, I've just been around for a very, very long time and have played thousands and thousands of games. In the game world, I'm the guy yelling at the kids to get off my lawn. There is a reason I have the name I do, I don't hide it.

Anyway, I understand the Vagrant Story love. It scored 92% on game rankings.com and I believe got a perfect score from Famitsu back in the day before they started selling those scores to the highest bidder like Nintendogs.

Looking at gamerankings, it was a legitimate question about the game and why it was a big deal. I'll see if I can't find a copy of the first one and fire it up on my PSP to see what the hoopla is about.

I mean, it's fair to ask about Parasite Eve, but I just feel like you could lighten up a bit, dad. I just saw your response in the Burnout Cagney thread, and I chuckled to myself. At least your upfront with your personality. :D

[Talon-]

Damn. These. Typos!!!

[mr. murphy]

Actually, it was a choice between "jaded" and "bitter" when making my screen name. Sorry, I've just been around for a very, very long time and have played thousands and thousands of games. In the game world, I'm the guy yelling at the kids to get off my lawn. There is a reason I have the name I do, I don't hide it.

Anyway, I understand the Vagrant Story love. It scored 92% on game rankings.com and I believe got a perfect score from Famitsu back in the day before they started selling those scores to the highest bidder like Nintendogs.

Looking at gamerankings, it was a legitimate question about the game and why it was a big deal. I'll see if I can't find a copy of the first one and fire it up on my PSP to see what the hoopla is about.

In addition to the awesome soundtrack and other stuff they mentioned about Parasite Eve, I found the FMV's to be genuinely upsetting, and I had a pretty intense nightmare based around the final boss fight.

So you mentioned gamerankings twice now... but what did you think about Vagrant Story?

[Variable Gear]

And a 75%+ is nothing to sneeze at. It might not be perfect but neither game was a stinker by any means.
That's some nice PR spin right there. Can I hire you as a contractor? ;)

[Gorvi]

Judging a game's quality based solely on it's GameRankings/Metacritic score is s deeply flawed practice.

[bean19]

Parasite Eve was a very strange but well made game back in the glory days of Square... you know, before they started riding the FF gravy train into the ground.
You think so? What I remember playing is a game with an extremely overwrought story about some chick fighting crazy mutated crap because of highly active mutated mitochondria and flashbacks to the opera where it all began over and over.

Add in Resident Evil-style gameplay with a bad camera, fast enemies, and a ridiculously upgradable gun and you have a 3 hour disappointment. . . okay, if you want to count the one extra hour spent running endlessly about the park, then it had more and I believe it had a tower to climb in addition to the story-mode (hard to remember this from so long ago).

I'm not sure what I expected at the time, but I know that the first game was a huge disappointment and I can't even remember the second, so it was just more of the same or I disliked the first so much that I didn't play it at all.

Having said all of that, I would at least rent this title if it was coming to consoles because I'm not completely immune to rose-colored glasses.

[bean19]

Judging a game's quality based solely on it's GameRankings/Metacritic score is s deeply flawed practice.
Who is doing that? I think OJG mentioned it as a defense for one game he disliked and as support for another game he disliked?

[Spigot]

You think so? What I remember playing is a game with an extremely overwrought story about some chick fighting crazy mutated crap because of highly active mutated mitochondria and flashbacks to the opera where it all began over and over.And you say it like those are bad things!

Like I said, I haven't touched either Parasite Eve game in close to 10 years now so maybe I'm just high on the fumes of nostalgia. I just remember enjoying both of them, if only because I was dying for a console game experience back in the day (I'd missed the PS1 era almost completely and didn't really get back to consoles until the PS2 launched).

Plus I just like crazy stuff in my game, overwrought storyline and all. Any game where mitochondria are the main villain can't be all bad!

I guess half of my excitement for the PSP version of PE is based on the fact that, like the Chrono Trigger remake for the DS, this signals that SquareEnix is at least aware that they made a few other franchises back in the day besides Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy. This could be the precursor to the Vagrant Story portable/remake/sequel that I long for!

[alienchild]

I already got Vagrant Story on PSP (PSXPSP, look it up), and it's sweeeeeeeeeet :D Really wish they'd come out with a sequel though.

What I'd REALLY like though is a PSP version of Chrono Cross, as well as another sequel (another NON-direct Chrono sequel).

oooh and while I', at it, how about a direct sequel to FF3/6?

[Gorvi]

Who is doing that? I think OJG mentioned it as a defense for one game he disliked and as support for another game he disliked?
I was referring to this:
I don't get the Parasite Eve love. I never played the game and just checked Gamerankings and the first one is ranked 76.5% and the second is 79.1%.

Am I missing something about it? Was it a huge cult hit or something. I remember it coming out but I don't remember anyone making a big stink about it at the time.
Bringing a GameRankings score into it is just missing the point, IMO. They're rather meaningless, especially for games that came out over 10 years ago since there weren't nearly as many sources back then. Even now, look at Lost Odyssey, a lot of people loved that game yet it has a 79% average on GameRankings.

Also, PE did get a decent amount of hype back then, including being on the covers of EGM and OPM.

[Talon-]

I seem to recall the game(s) visuals and complex stories (they're based off a novel, right?) as a primary selling point.

The staff of The 3rd Birthday reads as a Who's Who of Square Enix (which is a bad thing to some), so that's why a lot of Square fans are excited.

[oldjadedgamer]

Bringing a GameRankings score into it is just missing the point, IMO. They're rather meaningless, especially for games that came out over 10 years ago since there weren't nearly as many sources back then. Even now, look at Lost Odyssey, a lot of people loved that game yet it has a 79% average on GameRankings.

Also, PE did get a decent amount of hype back then, including being on the covers of EGM and OPM.

No, I said that I didn't understand the love for the game and since I have never personally played it, I went to GR to see what the average score of it was. That's why I asked people who have played it and loved the game to explain what made the game great. It was a valid question.

Oh, and I don't understand the Lost Odyssey love either ;)

[bean19]

Oh, and I don't understand the Lost Odyssey love either ;)
It's gorgeous, contains actually witty dialogue and interesting characters, and if it was named "Final Fantasy XIII", it would have sold 5 million copies. The problems are that the combat system and character system (leveling up) are boring. Rings would be interesting if they had more effect on the gameplay, but they don't, and the boss is almost as laughably stupid and unbelievable as the boss in Blue Dragon.

However, it is about 10 times better than Parasite Eve. Rose-colored glasses. . .

[Spigot]

It's gorgeous, contains actually witty dialogue and interesting characters, and if it was named "Final Fantasy XIII", it would have sold 5 million copies. Isn't that the truth...

I didn't even mind the combat system, though it was firmly in the old ATB camp instead of the almost MMO-style system in FFXII.

Gongora was a stupid villain and if I was the developer I would have actually had the game take place over a several different periods of the 1000 years that the immortals have lived so that you could get a better sense that they essentially stand still while time and their friends and loved ones pass them by. I still loved the game though.

And alienchild, to your wish for a FF3/6 sequel, NO!

The only direct sequel to a FF game that I felt even remotely stood on par with the game that it followed was Revenant Wings on the DS and that's because the plot is actually easier to follow and it has lots of Balthier.

Other than that, Crisis Core was a good prequel/FF7 remake tease, but that's it. FFX-2 had a pretty engine but the story was crap. I don't even want to remember Dirge Of Cerberus and I'm one of the few people who actually kind of liked the gameplay proper.

I liked it a lot better when a Final Fantasy game was a standalone title. I don't mind remakes, but it was nice when you'd have the complete story in one game.

And the various games in the Ivalice Alliance don't really count as they don't really overlap at all outside of the odd character cameo.

[Gorvi]

No, I said that I didn't understand the love for the game and since I have never personally played it, I went to GR to see what the average score of it was. That's why I asked people who have played it and loved the game to explain what made the game great. It was a valid question.

Oh, and I don't understand the Lost Odyssey love either ;)
Oh, all I was saying that looking at a meta rating isn't really an accurate indication of a game's actual quality, especially more niche games and older games.

Lost Odyssey was just an example that I figured a lot of people around here could relate to. :)