Pure Evil - Watchmen Trailer Music

[Evil Avatar]

I always end up asking this question when a new movie trailer comes out. The music from the Watchmen (http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/watchmen/) trailer is the Smashing Pumpkins song, The Beginning Is the End Is the Beginning from the Batman & Robin movie soundtrack.

http://movies.apple.com/trailers/wb/images/watchmen_200807171600.jpg

You can snag it on iTunes for a whopping $.99 from their Rarities and B-Sides album.

I just need to figure out how to speed up time.

Editor: After the trailer was posted online, the Watchmen graphic novel has hit #6 on Amazon.com's best seller list. You can order a copy Here (http://www.amazon.com/Watchmen-Alan-Moore/dp/0930289234/evilavatarcom-20).

[pseudopseudo]

Holy shit... a movie that looks like it's going to live up to my expectations.

FUCK, I agree, let's figure out how to speed up time. I need to see that NOW.

[Heretic Machine]

Goddamn! That's the good stuff.

[Primus]

I don't particularly like The Smashing Pumpkins, but that song really helped set the tone for the movie.

[H.Bogard]

I loved that song as a kid.

[Lord_Don]

Goddamn that looked spot-on. Wow.

[chirz]

Holy shit! I'm drooling already. Does Alan Moore hate this one too?

[eth3rton]

I just need to figure out how to speed up time.


FUCK, I agree, let's figure out how to speed up time. I need to see that NOW.

Ever see the movie Click. Didn't work out so well for him....

[Nuggsy]

I thought that having that song in there was a terrific jab at Batman and Robin. The song that signals one of the biggest blockbuster SNAFUs in the history of cinema (regardless how much money it made) is also the song that heralds the coming of something that could, possibly, be a cinematic reinvention of the superhero genre.

[spdiscus]

Hot damn. Looks good. I don't know if I'd include the accident as part of a teaser, but I guess it does play to both readers and non-readers.
Glad to see Manhattan didn't get swimtrunks, or some other dumb, puritanical protection from us seeing his winkie.

[sflufan]

Holy shit! I'm drooling already. Does Alan Moore hate this one too?

Of course he does - do you really need to ask? ;)

[Telefrog]

Holy shit! I'm drooling already. Does Alan Moore hate this one too?

Alan Moore has stated that he wishes Zack luck on his project, but he will not be seeing it or talking about it. This was back in '06, and I don't think he's said anything since.

[zipR]

Of course he does - do you really need to ask? ;)

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Don't you have the slightest curiosity about what Watchmen director Zack Snyder is doing with your work?
ALAN MOORE: I would rather not know.

He's supposed to be a very nice guy.
He may very well be, but the thing is that he's also the person who made 300. I've not seen any recent comic book films, but I didn't particularly like the book 300. I had a lot of problems with it, and everything I heard or saw about the film tended to increase [those problems] rather than reduce them: [that] it was racist, it was homophobic, and above all it was sublimely stupid. I know that that's not what people going in to see a film like 300 are thinking about but...I wasn't impressed with that.... I talked to [director] Terry Gilliam in the '80s, and he asked me how I would make Watchmen into a film. I said, ''Well actually, Terry, if anybody asked me, I would have said, 'I wouldn't.''' And I think that Terry [who aborted his attempted adaptation of the book] eventually came to agree with me. There are things that we did with Watchmen that could only work in a comic, and were indeed designed to show off things that other media can't.

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20213004_1,00.html

If you look at the track record of adaptations of his work to movies, it's easy to understand why he's not happy with the idea. And given that he doesn't own any of the rights to his early stuff, he basically has no say in how things are used and abused.

http://www.critical-hits.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/watchmenbabiesap6.gif


Apart from his feelings, I think that despite how awesome the trailer looks (and it does look like a very faithful adaptation of the source material), I don't see how a film adaptation could ever add anything to the story.

[Telefrog]

By the way, where can you get the slow version of The Beginning Is the End Is the Beginning used in the trailer? All I can find is the regular fast version.

[fndarkone]

By the way, where can you get the slow version of The Beginning Is the End Is the Beginning used in the trailer? All I can find is the regular fast version.

I had it but I seem to have deleted it. The beginning is the end is the beginning is the remix on this trailer. the end is the beginning is the end is the original song title found on batman and robin. but like the OP said, the song that you want can be purchased on itunes.
here is the url:
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?i=51157541&id=51157575&s=143441

[fndarkone]

the link above will open iTunes if you have it and take you right to the song.

[vherub]

I'm cautiously optimistic.

[Schnoogs]

I've posted this same link DOZENS of times here.

Soundtrack.net (http://www.soundtrack.net/trailers/)

It has a section for movie trailer music....do yourself a favor and bookmark it.

[RestlessAvenger]

I've posted this same link DOZENS of times here.
Soundtrack.net (http://www.soundtrack.net/trailers/)
It has a section for movie trailer music....do yourself a favor and bookmark it.

Just to let you know the Watchmen trailer is NOT listed on that site.

[Rommel]

Wow... Alan Moore is crazy

[Harv]

Looks cool. Hopefully it turns out well.

[Schnoogs]

Just to let you know the Watchmen trailer is NOT listed on that site.

It will be listed...along with every other trailer that people ask about.

[saulob]

I don't know. The lyrics from the trailer and the song doesn't match :(

http://tinyurl.com/6bqdn3

But it does match with the "original Batman" version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV_XMQ7uXHA

[Valkyrist]

Apart from his feelings, I think that despite how awesome the trailer looks (and it does look like a very faithful adaptation of the source material), I don't see how a film adaptation could ever add anything to the story.
Because some of us, like myself, NEVER heard of Watchmen before I just browsed this article. And now I'm curious.

So I understand this was a graphic novel / comic book? Was it one of those big thick novel-comics, or just a bunch of individual monthly issues? Hopefully I can find them at a local comicshop or bookstore and do some catching up before the movie hits.

[Evil Avatar]

Wow... Alan Moore is crazy

Batshit crazy. He has been for a long time.

[spdiscus]

So I understand this was a graphic novel / comic book? Was it one of those big thick novel-comics, or just a bunch of individual monthly issues? Hopefully I can find them at a local comicshop or bookstore and do some catching up before the movie hits.
Both. You should have no trouble finding it. Your local comic shop or library will have 10+ copies of the trade (http://www.amazon.com/Watchmen-Alan-Moore/dp/0930289234/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1216404896&sr=8-1).

[Evil Avatar]

So I understand this was a graphic novel / comic book? Was it one of those big thick novel-comics, or just a bunch of individual monthly issues? Hopefully I can find them at a local comicshop or bookstore and do some catching up before the movie hits.

It was a 12-issue limited series (that took about 24 months to come out) in the 80's by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons. It is a comic book, it is also literature, it was on Time Magazine's Top 100 English Books.

You can pick up the individual issues on Ebay for usually in the $50 range for the entire set or you can hit any book store or comic book store and pick up the trade paperback for about $20.

Being somewhat of a snob, I always recommend people -- even people new to comics -- spend the $75.00 and pick up the oversize "Absolute" hardcover edition.

It is the kind of comic that once you have read it, you will be wishing you owned the nicer version.

[divinechaos]

I don't know anything about the Watchmen but I do know that Hayter is involved in this which makes it an instant must-see.

[GrinR]

so fucking shit hot awesome zmg.

[zipR]

Batshit crazy. He has been for a long time.

Eccentric, yes. Bitter because he's been burned by the system he's fed a few times, probably. But batshit crazy? I think that's a stretch.

[Maskatron]

Eccentric, yes. Bitter because he's been burned by the system he's fed a few times, probably. But batshit crazy? I think that's a stretch.

He sounded pretty normal in that EW interview, other than the wacky magic talk. Eccentric definitely.

Also, I thought it was awesome how much he was hyping up The Wire.

[zipR]

Because some of us, like myself, NEVER heard of Watchmen before I just browsed this article. And now I'm curious.


Good point. Watchmen was such a big deal back when I was in high school (ask to see my Watchmen watch!) that I forget sometimes that there are people (probably a majority) who have no idea what it is.

[Valkyrist]

It was a 12-issue limited series (that took about 24 months to come out) in the 80's by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons. It is a comic book, it is also literature, it was on Time Magazine's Top 100 English Books.

You can pick up the individual issues on Ebay for usually in the $50 range for the entire set or you can hit any book store or comic book store and pick up the trade paperback for about $20.

Being somewhat of a snob, I always recommend people -- even people new to comics -- spend the $75.00 and pick up the oversize "Absolute" hardcover edition.

It is the kind of comic that once you have read it, you will be wishing you owned the nicer version.

God bless Wikipedia. After my first post I went and did some reading up on it. I'm about to skip out of work early to see Dark Knight, and after that I'll walk across the street to the bookstore and see if they have it in.

I don't consider that being a snob, Evil. I'm like that with many of my games, where I'll buy the limited edition that comes with the soundtrack and art book, etc. I'll go pick up the $20 book, because it seems most everyone here has nothing but great things to say about it. If it's really as good as you guys say, I won't have a prob buying the hardcover as well.

And thank you for no one berating me for not knowing what the Watchmen was. Some of us weren't born gamer/comic dorks. We're still working at it :D

[spdiscus]

Watchmen was the first graphic novel I read (after hearing all the hype), and I don't know if that was a good thing. My first re-read after a few years of other stuff was better for perspective and appreciation.

[MasterEvilAce]

Saw this in theaters... I thought it looked like absolute garbage when they showed the trailer

[Devilturnip]

I'm going to skip a Watchmen movie. It just strikes me as completely unnecessary.

[Devolution]

Batshit crazy. He has been for a long time.

Good artists/writers tend to be rather eccentric.

[Schnoogs]

Good artists/writers tend to be rather eccentric.

The difference between being crazy and eccentric is success, right? :p

[Yeti]

Great trailer, shite music. Hopefully their (Smashing Pumpkins) inclusion in the actual movie will be close to non-existant as it has the potential to spoil the movie for me. I've never liked SP, I don't think I'm emo enough, just my opinion.

[Devolution]

Great trailer, shite music. Hopefully their (Smashing Pumpkins) inclusion in the actual movie will be close to non-existant as it has the potential to spoil the movie for me. I've never liked SP, I don't think I'm emo enough, just my opinion.

Why people call music emo when the music existed well before the term, I'll never know.

[chirz]

Why people call music emo when the music existed well before the term, I'll never know.

I've noticed that emo is more commonly used to describe any music a person dislikes and/or considers whiny. A co-worker of mine called Oasis "emo" a few weeks ago!

But more Watchmen now please.

[Gitaroomaan]

I don't know anything about the Watchmen but I do know that Hayter is involved in this which makes it an instant must-see.

Hate to break it to you, but David Hayter isn't involved with Watchmen. He wrote the script for a previous version which departed from the book and placed the story in a modern setting, but when Zack Snyder came on board Hayter's script was scrapped for a new one.

[Wyrm]

Pretty awesome trailer.

[H1PO]

Huh. The music was the only part that I didn't think was AMAZING. It was pretty good, But I thought there could have been better music.

Also: How popular do you guys think this will be? Will it be a cult classic that only geeks and fans of watchmen love, but the rest of the world ignores? Or will it be a world wide hit and bring watchmen to the masses?

[Evil Avatar]

Also: How popular do you guys think this will be? Will it be a cult classic that only geeks and fans of watchmen love, but the rest of the world ignores? Or will it be a world wide hit and bring watchmen to the masses?

It will be like 300, it will be a worldwide smash success that will bring Watchmen to the masses.

[H1PO]

It will be like 300, it will be a worldwide smash success that will bring Watchmen to the masses.
Yeah. Or even more like V for Vendetta.
I don't know if I like that or hate it. I'm glad people will be able to see the genius that is Watchmen, but I don't know if these people will actually see it's genius, or just good superhero movie.

[Maskatron]

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6665/ewwatchmencoverpo4.jpg

Sweet. Going to have to buy EW for the first time in like, forever.

[Your Good Twin]

On one hand I feel like Watchmen, as a graphic novel, is one of the most perfect experiences in story-telling one can take in. The pacing, the flashbacks, the novella excerpt interludes.. It all just builds so well and it's a treat to take in all the details of each page. A movie simply will not translate this even CLOSE to as well as the comic form. This, more than most any other story put to page, is something that must be experienced for the first time in its original format. A movie just can not do it proper justice.

On the other hand, I can't help but think that we've had 20+ years to get everyone who is going to read it to read it (barring the young 'uns). I suppose if no one else cares enough to read it the way it is supposed to be, then it's time for a movie. Not just to bring it to a new audience, but to attempt to give us fans a walking-talking-moving vision of the comic. Like a beautiful interpretation. I'm open to that. I just hope Snyder reels in the "badass" style that directors like Michael Bay destroy stories with.

[GrinR]

Great trailer, shite music. Hopefully their (Smashing Pumpkins) inclusion in the actual movie will be close to non-existant as it has the potential to spoil the movie for me. I've never liked SP, I don't think I'm emo enough, just my opinion.

You're bonkers. I watched the trailer a couple extra times just to listen to the music. Perfect timing also on the editing.

[Zabyx]

Hate to break it to you, but David Hayter isn't involved with Watchmen. He wrote the script for a previous version which departed from the book and placed the story in a modern setting, but when Zack Snyder came on board Hayter's script was scrapped for a new one.

It's probably for the best that they kept it in its original time period, though Moore himself did compliment Hayter's script, right?

[*raoul]

Wow... Alan Moore is crazy

Quite likely, but "sublimely stupid" is the best and shortest summary of 300 I've ever heard.

I enjoyed the Watchmen trailer, though, neat effects, nice look, good casting (except for Ozymandias, I would've like someone older...Greg Kinnear? anyone?). I never thought the comic was awesome as a whole, but it has some awesome parts and I'll be there opening weekend (And, hey, we can be pretty sure they're cutting out that boring subplot with the kid reading those pirate comics)

Was there a Terminator trailer?--because I missed it at my Dark Knight screening.

[tiremfej]

I saw the trailer this morning before Dark Knight. I had no idea about this comic. I'm not too much into them, the trailer looked freakin' fantastic though!

Dark Knight, is easily the best "Super"hero movie ever. It hands down destroys Batman Begins. Awesome, awesome movie.

[tiremfej]

Quite likely, but "sublimely stupid" is the best and shortest summary of 300 I've ever heard.

I enjoyed the Watchmen trailer, though, neat effects, nice look, good casting (except for Ozymandias, I would've like someone older...Greg Kinnear? anyone?). I never thought the comic was awesome as a whole, but it has some awesome parts and I'll be there opening weekend (And, hey, we can be pretty sure they're cutting out that boring subplot with the kid reading those pirate comics)

Was there a Terminator trailer?--because I missed it at my Dark Knight screening.

Yes the Terminator Trailer, looked interesting as well, I didn't know what it was until the music started playing...

[GrinR]

Yeah. Or even more like V for Vendetta.
I don't know if I like that or hate it. I'm glad people will be able to see the genius that is Watchmen, but I don't know if these people will actually see it's genius, or just good superhero movie.

V for Vendetta was long, boring, and schlocky in its overwrought pretension.

[Gitaroomaan]

It's probably for the best that they kept it in its original time period, though Moore himself did compliment Hayter's script, right?

Well, Hayter claims that he had had Moore's blessing (here (http://movies.ign.com/articles/400/400492p1.html)), but considering how much Moore disdains adaptions of his work, I'd take that with a grain of salt.

[Valkyrist]

It will be like 300, it will be a worldwide smash success that will bring Watchmen to the masses.

I'm shelving this up there with the Harry Potter books. In which I had zero interest in until I had fun watching the corresponding movies. Afterwards, I bought and loved all the books.

Sure, the movie versions were no where close to comparing with the books. But I NEVER would have picked up the books on my own accord without being introduced to the series by the movies first.

Watchmen is going to be the exact same. At least for me.

So before a lot of you start knocking Watchmen the movie because it will never live up to its paper-based origins, keep that in mind. If all else, it introduces some of us who never heard of it.

And that's all ignoring the possibility that it could actually be kick-ass ala Batman Begins/Dark Knight.

[Suicidal ShiZuru]

I almost laughed while watching that... Song wasnt too bad...

[Yeti]

Why people call music emo when the music existed well before the term, I'll never know.

I understand SP existed long before the term emo came into being, emo was just called something different. Every age has its own emo type thing. Anyway, it's not worth yattering on about, it's just my taste in music and affects no one else.

What I think the majority of us can agree on, is this trailer rocks. HARD.:)

[Primus]

Wow... Alan Moore is crazy

He was arrested for dealing acid when he was younger. No doubt he dipped in his supply, and no doubt all his future works were influenced.

[Primus]

It was a 12-issue limited series (that took about 24 months to come out) in the 80's by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons. It is a comic book, it is also literature, it was on Time Magazine's Top 100 English Books.

It also is the only graphic novel to win a Hugo award.

[Nerv]

He was arrested for dealing acid when he was younger. No doubt he dipped in his supply, and no doubt all his future works were influenced.

I don't think Alan Moore ever quite stopped from dipping into his supply...

[Evil Avatar]

Someone said in another thread that Watchmen was on Time's Top 100 English books since something like 1893. It is ALSO on their Top 100 Books of All Time list.

[saulob]

I don't know. The lyrics from the trailer and the song doesn't match :(

http://tinyurl.com/6bqdn3

But it does match with the "original Batman" version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV_XMQ7uXHA

Er... does anyone know anything about that ?

Thanks.

[Murph the Surf]

Huh. The music was the only part that I didn't think was AMAZING. It was pretty good, But I thought there could have been better music.

Also: How popular do you guys think this will be? Will it be a cult classic that only geeks and fans of watchmen love, but the rest of the world ignores? Or will it be a world wide hit and bring watchmen to the masses?

My thought is, most Watchmen fans will like it, but average joe-schmo won't think there is enough "gee-whiz" super powers/special effects---other than when Manhattan is on-screen. I am fearful the film will rush to conclusion and not be able to come near getting the entire story fleshed out. Looks good in the short bites, but almost bet it's gonna be "dumbed down".
I hope I am wrong.

[Magnanimous Gnome]

The trailer looks great.

For those bashing on Alan Moore though, I have to wonder why? I don't know much about the guy, but if he's upset that his work is being turned into a movie, isn't that his right? It sucks that he can no longer control it and has to watch from the sidelines as others interpret and profit from his ideas.

I also have to agree with his take on 300. The movie was somewhat enjoyable, but very homophobic and way too "macho".

[pooty-tang]

Someone said in another thread that Watchmen was on Time's Top 100 English books since something like 1893. It is ALSO on their Top 100 Books of All Time list.
Its won the Hugo award and on Time's 100 Best English language novels from 1923 - Present. I got the Time thing from the movie's website.

I'm 23 and have been reading comics since I was 5 and have known about Watchmen and how awesome it's supposed to be for a long time, but never got around to reading it. (Didn't really care about it when I was young, only read Batman, Superman, etc) After I saw the trailer Thurs night, I thought that it looked pretty awesome and would catch up on the novel before I saw the movie. I got the trade a few days ago and read it, and WOW. Its fucking awesome. No other story telling I've ever seen in comics, and most traditional literature for that matter, comes close to Moore's and Gibbon's. I'm REALLY looking forward to this movie now. And personally I think the tone of the SP song hit the tone dead on. It reminded me of The Cells "The Servant" instrumental version for Sin City as far as how the song matched the feel of the visuals.

[Evil Avatar]

For those bashing on Alan Moore though, I have to wonder why? I don't know much about the guy, but if he's upset that his work is being turned into a movie, isn't that his right?

Wouldn't the appropriate response be to wait and see if the movie turns out to be good before you start trash talking it?

It does totally suck to have written something as significant as Watchmen and have zero control over it since you were working as a contract-for-hire writer at the time, but from the interviews I have read it seems like Moore is one of those stuck-ups who think that all their work so great that no one understands them.

If Moore is so great... what has he done recently? High-brow porn (http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FLost-Girls-Alan-Moore%2Fdp%2F1891830740%2F&tag=evilavatarcom-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325)? It is kind of hard to respect someone who goes from Watchmen and The Killing Joke to writing porn.

[roboninja]

Seriously, could that have looked any better? Interest in this movie is now through the roof.

[Mac]

If Moore is so great... what has he done recently? High-brow porn (http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FLost-Girls-Alan-Moore%2Fdp%2F1891830740%2F&tag=evilavatarcom-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325)? It is kind of hard to respect someone who goes from Watchmen and The Killing Joke to writing porn.


.....? Where exactly do you get off calling out Alan Moore? He's only one of the greatest writers the comic industry has ever known. I just don't understand that.

It'd be one thing if Hemingway issued this criticism (and ironic), but come on, the guy is a tremendously talented writer.

[Evil Avatar]

.....? Where exactly do you get off calling out Alan Moore? He's only one of the greatest writers the comic industry has ever known. I just don't understand that.

I didn't realize there were special qualifications to having an opinion.

It'd be one thing if Hemingway issued this criticism (and ironic), but come on, the guy was a tremendously talented writer.

Fixed that for you.

I'm sorry, but it seems like the guy is so mired in bittereness over Watchmen's success and that can't take the time to enjoy the fact that the story is considered literature and considered one of the best stories of all time.

If you look over the interviews he has done for the past few years all he does is talk about porn and Lost Girls.

I just don't get it... why would someone who defined Swamp Thing, created Watchmen, created Hellblazer, created V for Vendetta, created the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (and more) and now he is writing porn (and not even good porn) and spending all his time defending his porn work and trying to pretend his other stuff doesn't exist?

No, I don't understand that at all.

[Magnanimous Gnome]

That is sad if true. This trailer looks really intriguing and fantastic. I loved V for Vendetta, and knowing that this is from the same creator makes me even more excited for it. I'll have to pick up the trade the next time I'm at Barnes and Noble! I haven't read a comic book/graphic novel since I was a kid :o

[Mac]

I didn't realize there were special qualifications to having an opinion.



I was remarking more on the monster balls you must have for calling out a literary icon on the merits of his recent work.

I don't understand it at all, either, Evil. Doesn't make any sense to me. Totally counter intuitive. The fact remains, though, that he's produced incredible creative works and the literary field is not one where "what have you done for me lately?" applies.

If that was the case, Truman Capote would be considered a hack (and probably labeled that by those with less talent in their whole being than he had in his pinky.)

[Schnoogs]

Slight change of subject guys....anyone got a link to a copy of the Watchmen I can buy?

I don't mind spending a premium if it's a decent copy.

I went to Amazon and they had a super cheap version and a $300 version.

[Evil Avatar]

I don't understand it at all, either, Evil. Doesn't make any sense to me. Totally counter intuitive. The fact remains, though, that he's produced incredible creative works and the literary field is not one where "what have you done for me lately?" applies.

He has produced astounding works -- none of which he will talk about in interviews because they are all owned by DC comics. It is his own choice to ignore his best works because they are owned by someone else.

If I was in his shoes, I would be pretty bitter about the whole thing, but at the same time I would be right at the front of all the Watchmen mania going, "Writer! Me! Got book! Mine! Came from my head! Thought it up! Genius! Fascinating! Love me!"

Look at Alex Ross. He has created some of the best comic book artwork in the last century, but all that artwork is of DC characters he doesn't own. What did he do? He created his own mythology (http://www.alexrossart.com/rossreport.asp?id=367) and his own set of heroes.

What did Moore do? He wrote porn. :rolleyes:

[ElectricMonk]

I thought the music was a great choice. Been a while since anybody remembered how good smashing pumpkins were once.

That said, the trailer had some insanely cool moments and some embarrassingly bad men-in-tights moments. I know nothing about the book series though so I'm curious to see how this movie plays out.

[TeeCakes]

Holy shit... a movie that looks like it's going to live up to my expectations.

FUCK, I agree, let's figure out how to speed up time. I need to see that NOW.

The trailer they showed at this past weekend's The Dark Knight viewing had me switching my allegiance over to DC Movies (from Marvel's Iron Man and Hulk 2
) even before Heath Ledger's awesome take on The Joker sealed his acting ability for me afterwards. I hope Nolan ends up doing that rumored 'Sandman' flick as well, he's been one of my favorites since 'Memento'.

[Mac]

He has produced astounding works -- none of which he will talk about in interviews because they are all owned by DC comics. It is his own choice to ignore his best works because they are owned by someone else.

If I was in his shoes, I would be pretty bitter about the whole thing, but at the same time I would be right at the front of all the Watchmen mania going, "Writer! Me! Got book! Mine! Came from my head! Thought it up! Genius! Fascinating! Love me!"

Look at Alex Ross. He has created some of the best comic book artwork in the last century, but all that artwork is of DC characters he doesn't own. What did he do? He created his own mythology (http://www.alexrossart.com/rossreport.asp?id=367) and his own set of heroes.

What did Moore do? He wrote porn. :rolleyes:

Awesome post. He's definitely out there. Gift and the curse. Probably a big reason why he's created such brilliant works, but also potentially the source of his disconnect.