Playstation 3 2.40 Update Bricking Systems; Update Pulled Down For Now

[Phades]

Looks like all is not rosey today in the land of Sony. The long awaited update v2.40 is bricking several PS3's and has now been pulled down. If you haven't updated your system yet, looks like you'll have to wait.

Sony has pulled the 2.40 firmware update from both its in-console update and website after some users reported that the firmware has bricked their system. SCEA PR director Patrick Seybold told Joystiq that Sony is "looking into it right now and will work with those customers directly to address any issues they may be experiencing."

Source story (http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/sony-pulls-2-40-firmware-update-after-reports-of-bricked-ps3s)

[J Arcane]

Awesome! Those consoles are so much more stable than PCs!

[Phades]

Sorry about the sig :(
Forgot to disable it.....

[BlueBomber]

Dammit. I was looking forward to updating when I get home from work in an hour...

[Evil Avnovice]

You know....it'd be way too easy to post my "Doom3d" pic.

[frederec]

Doesn't seem to be any clue yet as to what systems are affected. I updated my 60gig this morning, and it survived okay. Hope this isn't too widespread.

[kinadian]

Well, I'm feeling very lucky right now.

I upgraded the firmware this morning before I left for work. Even updated SSHD and played for a few minutes. I'm glad I wasn't one of the unlucky ones that ended up bricking their system.

[LarsenNET]

Mine (60GB) updated without issue.

[NationalKato]

Mine (60GB) updated without issue as well.

[protocol_image]

boooooooo........i just went to update and saw it wasn't there

i was really looking forward to this update, but i suppose i can wait.....better than bricking my system

[menage]

40GB fine here too.

[Micasa]

60 GB, that I just got back from repairs a month or two ago, didn't survive it. Reported a failed install and put it into a continual reboot to reinstall loop. Boxed it and sent it off from work this morning.

[karak]

Thank gawd we didn't update the work PS3's. I have already gone through 2 my boss would shoot me. Hope this is fixed soon.

[CylonLord]

My 60gb updated last night seems to be ok also. I still haven't unlocked any trophies yet though. I played some SSHD and everything seems to be normal so far.

[biosc1]

60 GB, that I just got back from repairs a month or two ago, didn't survive it. Reported a failed install and put it into a continual reboot to reinstall loop. Boxed it and sent it off from work this morning.

That's my worry now...considering how rare 60GB's are.

[Fonz]

60 GB launch system, installed just fine last night, seems to be fine.

[Hemalin]

Jeez, does Sony have to copy everything Microsoft does?

[51|RandoM]

If you reformat the drive using some other platform and put it back in it will work. Of course you would lose all your saves/DLC/installs/etc. Then again, what are the odds of that still being there after a warranty repair?

[KNOTE]

Nice one...

[el cheezer]

I updated my MGS 80 gig last night. Played it all night.

Does anyone know if consoles that have 2.40 will roll back to 2.36, and if my PS3 worked fine, will it continue to work fine, or does it brick later on too?

[tayaya]

Jeez, does Sony have to copy everything Microsoft does?

I see what you did there!

51, you know you can back up all your installed games, downloaded games, and saves, music, movies, photos... all that shit... to a USB disk? I have all mine backed up right now, but yep... looks like they pulled the update as my system's not letting me update it.

But yeah... for those that didn't know that, you can make a backup image of that disk. Useful for when you wanna yank it and add a bigger one.

[SpectralWolf]

Hmmm...strange. Mine worked just fine. I suggest the Xbox fanboys don't blow this out of proportion until we have more data.

[BabyJesus]

Hmmm...strange. Mine worked just fine. I suggest the Xbox fanboys don't blow this out of proportion until we have more data.

Buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhaha hahahaha!

[Micasa]

Hmmm...strange. Mine worked just fine. I suggest the Xbox fanboys don't blow this out of proportion until we have more data.

Yeah, blown out of proportion.

THEY PULLED THE UPDATE.

That must be all in people's heads, right?

[Tel Prydain]

Awesome! Those consoles are so much more stable than PCs!

Ironically, my gaming PC was about as stable - one a year the video-card would go wonky. I feel like I went through boxes of them.

[TrackZero]

Hmmm...strange. Mine worked just fine. I suggest the Xbox fanboys don't blow this out of proportion until we have more data.

I don't think it's being blown out of proportion. And it's good to see how quickly they pulled it. I'm a little surprised they didn't catch it in the Q&A cycle though.

[Tel Prydain]

Hmmm...strange. Mine worked just fine. I suggest the Xbox fanboys don't blow this out of proportion until we have more data.
You're totally right. The Xbots MADE Sony pull the Update. :rolleyes:

[EternalGamer]

I have a 60GB and installed without a problem this morning.

[el cheezer]

You're totally right. The Xbots MADE Sony pull the Update. :rolleyes:
OMG!!!1! They're the ones that haxxz00rz their site, too!!!1!1!1!:eek:



;)

[51|RandoM]

51, you know you can back up all your installed games, downloaded games, and saves, music, movies, photos... all that shit... to a USB disk? I have all mine backed up right now, but yep... looks like they pulled the update as my system's not letting me update it.

I'm aware of that, but to run the utility you need to have a functioning PS3, correct? :P

[SpectralWolf]

Hey, it's just a suggestion. Take it or leave it. I also said let's just wait for more data. That's generally good advice.

[SpectralWolf]

Buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhaha hahahaha!

Very intelligent :rolleyes:

[SpectralWolf]

Yeah, blown out of proportion.

THEY PULLED THE UPDATE.

That must be all in people's heads, right?

Calm down! :mad: Blown out of proportion (in this context) means equating this to > 30% failure rate due to an RROD. It will eventually happen if the flames are fanned enough. We wouldn't want that now, would we.....not unless we get more data.

[Mal.Reynolds]

updated and fine here did it about 2:30 local time so .....1am EST

[Morangie]

Calm down! :mad: Blown out of proportion (in this context) means equating this to > 30% failure rate due to an RROD. It will eventually happen if the flames are fanned enough. We wouldn't want that now, would we.....not unless we get more data.
We don't need more data. Sony released an update with some eagerly awaited features and it bricks systems. Its hardly like they have (that) many different system configurations to test it on before pushing it out the door.

[bone_matrix]

Not going to lie, I chuckled a little when I read the title. Not because I'm happy Sony messed up and definitely not because people are getting screwed.

It was because they haven't really learned from Microsoft's mistakes. Sure, they were adding in-game XMB and trophies, but to mess up this particular update?

For shame!!!!

[AspectVoid]

Last winter's X360 Update bricked my x360, so I'm kinda glad to see owners of other systems going through the same thing. Yeah, I'm evil.

[Phades]

To me the interesting thing isn't that they are bricking systems, that can happen with ANY kind of firmware update. What I find interesting is that it must be relatively widespread and confirmed by Sony to be a problem for them to pull the update.

[Lutheran]

Thank god I decided to watch the movie that I have in the PS3 before I updated

[RestlessAvenger]

I updated last night without any issue. Rebooted a number of times as well.

[donkeydrop]

updated my 60GB just fine just like everyone else in this thread.

And for all the MS fanboi's trying to exaggerate the problem, they pulled it as a precaution. Would you rather they take the MS approach and just stick their head in the sand and pretend their couldn't possibly be anything wrong?

[Micasa]

To me the interesting thing isn't that they are bricking systems, that can happen with ANY kind of firmware update. What I find interesting is that it must be relatively widespread and confirmed by Sony to be a problem for them to pull the update.

I think the interesting thing is the many forms it has taken. Some systems, like mine, get locked into 'update failed' cycles. Others get a red screen. Others load to the wave, but won't load the icons.

updated my 60GB just fine just like everyone else in this thread.

And for all the MS fanboi's trying to exaggerate the problem, they pulled it as a precaution. Would you rather they take the MS approach and just stick their head in the sand and pretend their couldn't possibly be anything wrong?

Try reading the thread - not quite. They pulled it because there was something wrong with it. It's laughable that people can't admit that, when SONY has.

[DeejayKnight]

I'd rather not comment. I don't want to jinx myself by stating the "everything's okay" and get a bricked PS3 right afterwards... :|

[TrackZero]

Calm down! :mad: Blown out of proportion (in this context) means equating this to > 30% failure rate due to an RROD. It will eventually happen if the flames are fanned enough. We wouldn't want that now, would we.....not unless we get more data.

Ah, so you're replying to something no one implied or said. Great, good to know. Your SDF badge is in the mail.

[TrackZero]

And for all the MS fanboi's trying to exaggerate the problem, they pulled it as a precaution. Would you rather they take the MS approach and just stick their head in the sand and pretend their couldn't possibly be anything wrong?

That's in reference to.....what incident exactly?

[CptTripps]

I suggest the Xbox fanboys don't blow this out of proportion until we have more data.

http://lhs.loudoncounty.org/Images/anime%20gifs/Marching_band.gif

Just kidding, it looks like 99% updated just fine. Sony probably pulled it at the first sign of trouble just to be sure.

[silv]

updated my 60GB just fine just like everyone else in this thread.

And for all the MS fanboi's trying to exaggerate the problem, they pulled it as a precaution. Would you rather they take the MS approach and just stick their head in the sand and pretend their couldn't possibly be anything wrong?

everyone... except those who have posted it bricked their PS3's, sure.

[Hugenex]

Updated my 60GB this morning, all is good and working properly. i wonder how Sony is going to treat those who got their PS3 bricked.

[beefyjr]

I was hoping to update mine when I got home this evening. No dice, I guess. Condolences to those with bricked systems.

I'm blown away that there's no mention of this on the Playstation Blog. Way to stay ahead of the problem, Sony!

[SpectralWolf]

Ah, so you're replying to something no one implied or said. Great, good to know. Your SDF badge is in the mail.

Wait...what? :mad:
Just look at some of the responses here. Some people are already equating this to Microsoft's failure, which it isn't, not yet anyway.
All I said was calm down and let's see what happens. Idiot!

[el cheezer]

To me the interesting thing isn't that they are bricking systems, that can happen with ANY kind of firmware update. What I find interesting is that it must be relatively widespread and confirmed by Sony to be a problem for them to pull the update.Not necessarily. If the community manager notices that someone posts this on their site, which seems to have happened. They can contact tech, which pulls the update to keep it from from becoming widespread, instead of denying it and paying for it later.

It's a possibility, although this is Sony we're talking about. Being proactive isn't one of their well known traits.

Mine still works fine. Now let's hope I havent' jinxed it!

[Morangie]

Wait...what? :mad:
Just look at some of the responses here. Some people are already equating this to Microsoft's failure, which it isn't, not yet anyway.
All I said was calm down and let's see what happens. Idiot!
"Some people" being you. You brought up 3RR, no one else. The only other post I see made before yours mentioning MS was from Hemalin and that post was obviously a joke.

[51|RandoM]

I downloaded the update for SSHD after updating to 2.40, would appear that I am safe for now. :)

If I manage to brick my ps3 before Grinr's 360 gets RRoD put me on suicide watch.

[vallor]

I gotta find me an "I called it!" pic.

[CptTripps]

Wait...what? :mad:
Just look at some of the responses here. Some people are already equating this to Microsoft's failure, which it isn't, not yet anyway.
All I said was calm down and let's see what happens. Idiot!

Hahaha,

Ok, you need to go re-read this whole thread dude. You started it, you fanned it, and your blaming everyone else. I just read through looking for these responses you mention, there are none. And nobody suggested it was anything like MS except you. I think you need to take your own advice and calm down, Sony pulled an update before it got worse, BFD.

[Rogue_hunter]

so, all of one person that's posted here has a bricked system?

Seems more like it was pulled as a precaution instead of "OMG the update breaks all systems!!1!1!"

[dimsumx]

so, all of one person that's posted here has a bricked system?

Seems more like it was pulled as a precaution instead of "OMG the update breaks all systems!!1!1!"

...because all PS3 owners are EvAv readers... :rolleyes:

[Tel Prydain]

:rolleyes: No one has said "OMG the update breaks all systems!!1!1!"

[ResistanceAddict]

Thank God I forgot to update last night...

[MrE]

80Gb here. I did have a strange issue after the firmware was updated. I went to play MSG4 after borrowing it from a friend yesterday, and, it kept locking up on the first screen that pops up warning about not removing the disc during hard disk activity. It prompts you to press X to continue, but my controller input did nothing. multiple soft reboots on the PS3 did nothing. Finally, I inserted the disc, pressed X several times until the game loaded, and it went past the onscreen message and proceeded to install. Played the first level, and all seemed ok. Not sure if this was an isolated issue, but its the first time I had any sort of lock up with my PS3 since I bought it last Christmas.

[AeroHudson]

Updated mine this afternoon with no problems. I have a new 40 gig.

[Hydroeric]

I have to wonder when this happens that if companies could've had one version of the hardware, if these types of problems would be more rare.

Then when they do a hardware revision they could use the current version to test said new hardware before releasing the new firmware.

Perhaps, perhaps, perrrhaps.

/owner of Wii (covered in dust)
/owner of PS3 40gig with 320gb HDD in it.

[Kelegacy]

Came home to update tonight and noticed nothing was there. Ah well. Sorry that other PS3 owners had to test the firmware for my benefit.

[BabyJesus]

Very intelligent :rolleyes:

So was the comment I responded to.. So bite me.

[tayaya]

I'm aware of that, but to run the utility you need to have a functioning PS3, correct? :P

Well yeah.... I meant that this should be done BEFORE the update. Or at random intervals like every month or something if you're that worried about your data. The fact is that shit breaks, no matter what company made it. Firmware updates always have that minor risk of not taking properly and leaving you with a brick. Happens to routers and other small electronics all the time... the current crop of consoles are no different.

At least Sony gives us some option for backing up our saves. Wish other consoles did the same.

[Spigot]

Whooo... I think I'll hold off on updating now :)

I'd be so pissed if I bricked my system given that I'm RIGHT ON THE FINAL FIGHT in MGS4... I won't be installing anything or touching anything until I finish that puppy up.

[grognard66]

I installed the update on my 60 gig this morning without incident. I haven't had a chance to check anything out yet, but it seems like the problem is only during the install process so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

[Mathilda]

It doesn't brick it, it seizes upon loading from the HDD. A hard drive wipe is required to fix this for now.

[TrackZero]

Some people are already equating this to Microsoft's failure

What failure? And thanks for calling me an idiot without properly explaining yourself.

[Hemalin]

What failure? And thanks for calling me an idiot without properly explaining yourself.

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2006/11/01/update-brick-your-360-speak-up/

[Gorvi]

Mine updated with no problems this morning, thankfully. Sucks for those who had issues.

[Sloth]

as long as it still plays blu ray DVDs who cares, if i want to play games, i'll do it on a 360

[Demo_Boy]

BABABABABOOOMM!!!!

No MGS4 for you!

[fitbabits]

I wonder if as many people will be up in arms (and attempt a class action suit) with this as they were with Microsoft 'bricking' Xbox 360s?

[Lutheran]

I just downloaded the 2.40 update from sendspace and installed it and my PS3 works fine. Nice having in game XMB.

[UnderHero5]

Updated mine last night, and it worked fine.

As was said, this isn't actually bricking systems, it's halting loading from the HDD. Big difference (though, still a bad mistake).

[Micasa]

It leaves you with a non-functional console. How is that different than any other form of 'bricked' console?

[SpectralWolf]

Ah, so you're replying to something no one implied or said. Great, good to know.

That's in reference to.....what incident exactly?

What failure? And thanks for calling me an idiot without properly explaining yourself.

Christ! Do we really have to spell it out for you tray′ • kuh • zee′ • row?

[fishbang]

I updated my 40 gig this morning and played several hours of MGS 4 with no problems.

The only aberration came after I had learned the update was making bricks; I was nervous about a shutdown or a reboot, so I decided to let the system sit in F@H and to let the controller top off its charge. As soon as I turned to walk away I heard something completely unfamiliar - it took me a moment to recognize it as the PS3's exhaust fan blowing at full.

It was beyond loud. Louder even than my 360 when it's playing CoD 4. This may be normal(ish) behavior for some PS3s, but mine has never done it and I'd never heard of it happening before. It stopped shortly after I unplugged the DS3 and sent it back to the xmb.

It's not that big a deal, I guess, but weird behavior following a sour update spooks me. I suppose I'll stop thinking of the PS3 as my "worry free" system.

[fitbabits]

I updated my 40 gig this morning and played several hours of MGS 4 with no problems.

The only aberration came after I had learned the update was making bricks; I was nervous about a shutdown or a reboot, so I decided to let the system sit in F@H and to let the controller top off its charge. As soon as I turned to walk away I heard something completely unfamiliar - it took me a moment to recognize it as the PS3's exhaust fan blowing at full.

It was beyond loud. Louder even than my 360 when it's playing CoD 4. This may be normal(ish) behavior for some PS3s, but mine has never done it and I'd never heard of it happening before. It stopped shortly after I unplugged the DS3 and sent it back to the xmb.

It's not that big a deal, I guess, but weird behavior following a sour update spooks me. I suppose I'll stop thinking of the PS3 as my "worry free" system.
I've learned (the hard way) that the days of worry-free systems may well be behind us forever. Not that their truly was an age of 100% perfection, but the failure rate on the newer consoles is pathetic.

I hope your PS3 is fine.

[Psykoboy2]

Updated mine (60/Launch) when it went live last night. No problems so far.

[TheEpicOfTyler]

I believe this is a very tiny issue and it was pulled as a precaution. GAF has a thread about the issue with close to 500 posts and not a single report of a bricked PS3.

[SpectralWolf]

As soon as I turned to walk away I heard something completely unfamiliar - it took me a moment to recognize it as the PS3's exhaust fan blowing at full.

It was beyond loud. Louder even than my 360 when it's playing CoD 4. This may be normal(ish) behavior for some PS3s, but mine has never done it and I'd never heard of it happening before. It stopped shortly after I unplugged the DS3 and sent it back to the xmb.

It's not that big a deal, I guess, but weird behavior following a sour update spooks me. I suppose I'll stop thinking of the PS3 as my "worry free" system.

fishbang,

Mine turns the fan on after a while too. It happens to me a little more often when I play COD4, GTAIV, and MGS4. I've made a fairly good effort at ventilating it. I'll just chalk it up to the summer, the newer games, and the chipset in general....until something worse might happen :(

I've learned (the hard way) that the days of worry-free systems may well be behind us forever. Not that their truly was an age of 100% perfection, but the failure rate on the newer consoles is pathetic.

I hope your PS3 is fine.

I tend to agree. After going through a few failures, I have learned not to take the new consoles (including the handhelds) for granted anymore.

[Rogue_hunter]

I updated my 40 gig this morning and played several hours of MGS 4 with no problems.

The only aberration came after I had learned the update was making bricks; I was nervous about a shutdown or a reboot, so I decided to let the system sit in F@H and to let the controller top off its charge. As soon as I turned to walk away I heard something completely unfamiliar - it took me a moment to recognize it as the PS3's exhaust fan blowing at full.

It was beyond loud. Louder even than my 360 when it's playing CoD 4. This may be normal(ish) behavior for some PS3s, but mine has never done it and I'd never heard of it happening before. It stopped shortly after I unplugged the DS3 and sent it back to the xmb.

It's not that big a deal, I guess, but weird behavior following a sour update spooks me. I suppose I'll stop thinking of the PS3 as my "worry free" system.

Actually, you have nothing to worry about. Mine gets superloud during the summer in general because of the dry California heat. Even turning my fan on full blast, the fans still kick into overdrive. Mind you this only happens when in game, folding@home, or watching a blu-ray/DVD. the XMB, watching videos off the hard drive and browsing the internet bring the fans back down to near silent level.

[bapenguin]

Dang it. I was wondering why it told me I had the latest update this afternoon. Hopefully this is fixed before the long weekend.

[asimonk]

DR2DpgV8fPw

[Psykoboy2]

Dang it. I was wondering why it told me I had the latest update this afternoon. Hopefully this is fixed before the long weekend.

You probably have some of the games that currently support the trophy thing, but if not - well, you aren't missing anything. It's actually one of those updates that just...doesn't do anything. At least not yet anyway.

[TrackZero]

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2006/11/01/update-brick-your-360-speak-up/

So all the PS3s that were bricked were modded systems? (Or did you even read what you linked to.)

[TrackZero]

Christ! Do we really have to spell it out for you tray′ • kuh • zee′ • row?

Since you obviously are calling on nothing at all since you never answered any of my statements with anything but diversion and insults, welcome to my ignore list. Let the rest of us know when you have a clue.

[51|RandoM]

I've learned (the hard way) that the days of worry-free systems may well be behind us forever.

All bets are off if you put an optical drive into the console...

[asimonk]

All bets are off if you put an optical drive into the console...

I seem to recall many issues with dust and cartridges. Just saying, was there ever a reliable console?

[Hemalin]

So all the PS3s that were bricked were modded systems? (Or did you even read what you linked to.)

It was so nice of Microsoft to release a fix (http://majornelson.com/archive/2006/11/01/having-an-issue-with-the-fall-update.aspx) for all those modded systems they intentionally broke, right?

[SpectralWolf]

DR2DpgV8fPw

Brilliant! Loved it :D

[Vanthar]

I believe this is a very tiny issue and it was pulled as a precaution. GAF has a thread about the issue with close to 500 posts and not a single report of a bricked PS3.

I think so too.

[Wolvie]

Oh fuck! I updated my friends PS3 last weekend when he brought it over to use my broadband connection. Hope his system is fine... I'm gonna feel like shit if it gets bricked. :(

[TrackZero]

It was so nice of Microsoft to release a fix (http://majornelson.com/archive/2006/11/01/having-an-issue-with-the-fall-update.aspx) for all those modded systems they intentionally broke, right?

Meh, small number can mean anything. I wasn't aware of anyone who had a direct problem with that update. And I'm not at all harshing on Sony for this OP. Considering how small this problem apparently was, it's good to see how quickly they took action.

[Maskatron]

Working fine for me.

[TRiLoGY]

Just saying, was there ever a reliable console?

My PS2 is still going strong from Launch (including original controllers), But its not had any use since i got my PS3 :)

[Morratut]

Yeah a few forums i've read seem to mention the launch 60GB systems being hit a fair bit. I decided to wait till today and see what the news is as I have a launch 60GB. Oh well 2.41 will hopefully be up soon.

Sorry to hear of other people having problems.

[cepwin]

Sounds like Sony is being extra cautious on this one which I give them props for. Best to take it down and investigate than risk bricking systems.

[Yeti2005]

I tried to get the latest firmware last night but they had already taken it down. I guess I dodged a potential bullet. On the other hand a buddy of mine downloaded the firmware just fine but said the latest firmware doesn't really seem to add much.

[51|RandoM]

I seem to recall many issues with dust and cartridges. Just saying, was there ever a reliable console?

Lots of them.

The dust/cartridge thing wasn't actually dust, it was the edge connector design of the NES wherein it torqued the cartridge down onto the contacts eventually bending them to the point where they would barely make contact.

Contrast it to the edge connectors featured in the Turbographx and Gameboy/DS line which work pretty much indefinitely barring complete corrosion of the contacts.

As far as consoles with optical drives go, the Gamecube and the Xboox were fairly reliable, seems like.

[grognard66]

Lots of them.

The dust/cartridge thing wasn't actually dust, it was the edge connector design of the NES wherein it torqued the cartridge down onto the contacts eventually bending them to the point where they would barely make contact.

Contrast it to the edge connectors featured in the Turbographx and Gameboy/DS line which work pretty much indefinitely barring complete corrosion of the contacts.

As far as consoles with optical drives go, the Gamecube and the Xboox were fairly reliable, seems like.

I had an original x-box DVD fail on me (started with a lot of disc reading errors before failing completely) and recall hearing some noise about that from other owners. I really wish MS had gone with a slot loading DVD, rather than a tray, like Sony and Nintendo did as those seem quieter and more reliable for some reason.

I think consoles have always been finnicky, but the internet wasn't what it is today, so word didn't spread and take on a life of its own like we see now.

[MrCrim]

Hey guys, just an FYI for all you nervous nancies. The issue is not with the firmware itself (http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/07/02/sony-acknowledges-firmware-2-40-problems/). The issue is with the installer. So if you made it through your install and everything's working, you're in the free and clear. The OS corruption occurs during the install if it happens at all. And for the chime in

60GB PS3, free and clear running 2.4

[Yeti2005]

Lots of them.

The dust/cartridge thing wasn't actually dust, it was the edge connector design of the NES wherein it torqued the cartridge down onto the contacts eventually bending them to the point where they would barely make contact.

Contrast it to the edge connectors featured in the Turbographx and Gameboy/DS line which work pretty much indefinitely barring complete corrosion of the contacts.


I had no idea. Nice bit of trivia there. So the whole blowing on the Nintendo cartridges never really worked? Did it work just because you kept trying to jam the cartridge in?

[Gott]

Hmmm...strange. Mine worked just fine. I suggest the Xbox fanboys don't blow this out of proportion until we have more data.

Hmmm. Pre-emptive defensiveness?

On that note. For all you Sony boys who make so much fun of rrod. How's your humble pie? Eat it up ladies.

Rough night last night...

[Gorvi]

Saying this bricks the system is a bit misleading. It seems that removing the HDD lets you boot up ok. Of course, you then have to format the HDD, so that still sucks hard. I'd wait to see if maybe there's a fix such as updating from a memory stick or something before doing anything too drastic.

[TrackZero]

I had no idea. Nice bit of trivia there. So the whole blowing on the Nintendo cartridges never really worked? Did it work just because you kept trying to jam the cartridge in?

It did because you got moisture on the contacts from your blowing, which helped complete the circuit (but also degraded both the cartridge and system contacts much faster).

[TrackZero]

I had an original x-box DVD fail on me (started with a lot of disc reading errors before failing completely) and recall hearing some noise about that from other owners. I really wish MS had gone with a slot loading DVD, rather than a tray, like Sony and Nintendo did as those seem quieter and more reliable for some reason.

I think consoles have always been finnicky, but the internet wasn't what it is today, so word didn't spread and take on a life of its own like we see now.

Depends on the system model. My PS2 drive is a finicky bitch (slimline model), which my original Xbox just keeps going fine and is quiet (but it's a v1.6 crystal edition). Gamecube always runs fine, but then again, it's got slower read times on the drive and a smaller media, so it's not really fair to compare that to the PS2/Xbox.

[grognard66]

Hmmm. Pre-emptive defensiveness?

On that note. For all you Sony boys who make so much fun of rrod. How's your humble pie? Eat it up ladies.

Rough night last night...

Yeah, this has been the most amusing part of the entire ordeal. Sony fanboys have speculated that MS fanboys are making this up when Sony itself has acknowledged there is a problem. Does that make Sony a 360 fanboy? ;)

Also, it seems like the early reports stating if you installed 2.4 ok you would be in the clear are not entirely accurate. There are many reports now of people having minor, yet annoying, problems pop up (for some reason they seem to be primarily audio glitches) after installing the update.

[fitbabits]

All bets are off if you put an optical drive into the console...

Yep. Actually, anything with moving parts is susceptible to failure.

[Spigot]

Yep. Actually, anything with moving parts is susceptible to failure.I want my solid state console!

Is there any way to tell whether your PS3 is a launch unit or not? I bought my 60 GB used and have no idea if it is the last one off the line or the first.

[fitbabits]

I want my solid state console!

Is there any way to tell whether your PS3 is a launch unit or not? I bought my 60 GB used and have no idea if it is the last one off the line or the first.

There probably is, but I don't know how.

[rein]

Hmmm. Pre-emptive defensiveness?

On that note. For all you Sony boys who make so much fun of rrod. How's your humble pie? Eat it up ladies.

Rough night last night...
Wait. Let me get this straight. You called him out for speaking too soon about Xbox fanboys making reference to RRoD and then comment on RRoD in the same post? :confused:



Any ETA on the new patch? I want to update my system but I don't want to do it till it is safe.

[SpectralWolf]

Hmmm. Pre-emptive defensiveness?

On that note. For all you Sony boys who make so much fun of rrod. How's your humble pie? Eat it up ladies.

Rough night last night...

Wait. Let me get this straight. You called him out for speaking too soon about Xbox fanboys making reference to RRoD and then comment on RRoD in the same post? :confused:

I take it he's joking. If he was serious then I guess it had to happen.

Yeah, this has been the most amusing part of the entire ordeal. Sony fanboys have speculated that MS fanboys are making this up when Sony itself has acknowledged there is a problem. Does that make Sony a 360 fanboy? ;)

Not a fanboy. Just wanted to preemptively suggest this didn't turn into an immature argument, but I guess it backfired :( Also, I didn't say there wasn't any problem. Just suggested that this not be turned into yet another "I told you so. Sony's just as bad" argument.

[grognard66]

I take it he's joking. If he was serious then I guess it had to happen.



Not a fanboy. Just wanted to preemptively suggest this didn't turn into an immature argument, but I guess it backfired :( Also, I didn't say there wasn't any problem. Just suggested that this not be turned into yet another "I told you so. Sony's just as bad" argument.

Sorry, SpectralWolf - my comment was not actually intended towards you, but was just a general observation on comments I've read on a variety of message boards today. No offense intended.

[TrackZero]

I want my solid state console!

Is there any way to tell whether your PS3 is a launch unit or not? I bought my 60 GB used and have no idea if it is the last one off the line or the first.

That's the dream man. ;) That said, you can go buy a 64GB solid state hard drive and connect it to your PS3 I suppose.

[violentp]

Just upgraded mine to 2.40 and I have to say I'm somewhat unimpressed. No trophy support yet (I was out of town so I missed the Stardust update) and the XMB overlay seems a little sluggish. Good news is that it finally displays the time. Sad that that's the highlight.

[Kelegacy]

The update is back up?

[violentp]

The update is back up?

Nah, got me an archived copy.

[EternalGamer]

The update is back up?

There's a thread on neogaf that has a link to the download if you want to update yourelf via USB. Seems fairly safe. I don't think the problems were that wide spread. I'd just back up any saves you want to keep to a USB device first (the worst that will happen is you have to reformat the harddrive).

[violentp]

There's a thread on neogaf that has a link to the download if you want to update yourelf via USB. Seems fairly safe. I don't think the problems were that wide spread. I'd just back up any saves you want to keep to a USB device first (the worst that will happen is you have to reformat the harddrive).

Having done just that, I'm not sure it's even worth the risk at this point. That is of course, unless you need in-game messaging badly.

[Spigot]

I'll just wait until they patch that installer, thanks. I can resist the broken ingame messaging and trophy room for a bit longer.

[TeeCakes]

As far as consoles with optical drives go, the Gamecube and the Xboox were fairly reliable, seems like.

Actually, I went through 2 Gamecubes, right around the time of RE4 being released, due to the dreaded disc read error-- many GCN's had defective lens readers that basically required an extra half-centimeter tightening after every few months of use. I'm surprised this isn't more well-known-- the Gamecube was no better than a PS2/360 as far as reliability issues goes.

The PS3 remains the most solid piece of hardware in gaming history. This whole brickin' thing is actually software issue, totally different IMO. Could've been avoided if Sony didn't get rid of back-compat in favor of multiple SKUs, though.

[TrackZero]

Actually, I went through 2 Gamecubes, right around the time of RE4 being released, due to the dreaded disc read error-- many GCN's had defective lens readers that basically required an extra half-centimeter tightening after every few months of use. I'm surprised this isn't more well-known-- the Gamecube was no better than a PS2/360 as far as reliability issues goes.

The PS3 remains the most solid piece of hardware in gaming history. This whole brickin' thing is actually software issue, totally different IMO. Could've been avoided if Sony didn't get rid of back-compat in favor of multiple SKUs, though.

I don't know about that. I've never heard of someone IRL have theirs break, and mine has taken a complete beating over the years. Hell, friends I used to discuss how impressive Nintendo builds their consoles, expecting kids to kick the shit out of them. Meanwhile I've seen 3 PS3s returned to the store as broken since it came out. Anyways, that's my first hand experience.

[oldjadedgamer]

I don't know about that. I've never heard of someone IRL have theirs break, and mine has taken a complete beating over the years. Hell, friends I used to discuss how impressive Nintendo builds their consoles, expecting kids to kick the shit out of them. Meanwhile I've seen 3 PS3s returned to the store as broken since it came out. Anyways, that's my first hand experience.

I had my personal GameCube stop reading discs and my cousin also had his stop reading discs as well (both launch units). Nintendo repaired them for free for us though. Personally, I've replaced 2 PSX, 3 PS2's, 1 original PSP, 0 slim psp, 1 GBA, 1 GBASP, 3 DS units (two fat, one lite), 0 Xbox's, and 1 xbox360. I don't have a PS3 yet and most of my friends don't own one either so not much experience with that.