More Metal Gear in the Works

[TrackZero]

Looks like the crew over at 1UP (http://www.1up.com) snagged themselves quite the story. Some rumors have been swirling around about this already and there's something from the MGS team:

Speaking in an interview with 1UP a week before the game's release, MGS4 assistant producer Ryan Payton said there is "still a lot of room for filling in the gaps as far as Big Boss is concerned." When asked about the possibility of a Metal Gear Solid 5, Payton responded, "There are some misunderstandings that this is the final Metal Gear game. But it's really the final chapter of the Solid Snake story. That's all."

For the full story, see here (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3168338).

Fantastic. I know I've heard a number of people appreciate the gameplay design and narrative elements in MGS4, seems a good fit to continue that with some totally new backstory in a non-Solid Metal Gear game.

[fitbabits]

Our very own Philip "Kefkataran" Kollar (you are still ours, right?) is reporting via his new home at 1Up (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3168338) that there may very well be more Metal Gear to come from Konami, with the possibility that number five in the series could be a prequel:

Speaking in an interview with 1UP a week before the game's release, MGS4 assistant producer Ryan Payton said there is "still a lot of room for filling in the gaps as far as Big Boss is concerned." When asked about the possibility of a Metal Gear Solid 5, Payton responded, "There are some misunderstandings that this is the final Metal Gear game. But it's really the final chapter of the Solid Snake story. That's all."

"I'm happy we could wrap up Snake's story in MGS4," [Ryan] Payton stated earlier in the interview, continuing, "because it gets to the point where if we continue on with Metal Gear Solid 5 with more Solid Snake adventures, we'll get to the point where the game has absolutely no basis in reality. I do like the idea that this character has had four or five big missions and then that's when it ended, rather than have 20 missions where there's no chance in hell a secret agent could ever survive. He's had four or five really big missions, and that seems a little more realistic to me."
Anyone spare a PlayStation 3 and a copy of Metal Gear Solid 4? Please.

[TrackZero]

Ugh, I just posted this news. And much more cleanly, may I add. ;)

[Gorvi]

A game starring Ocelot set in the '70s. Make it happen.

Also, they've been clarifying every chance they get for the last 6 months or so that MGS4 would not be the last Metal Gear game, just Solid Snake's last and Kojima's last as the main director. Kojima will more than likely still have a hand in the games and I'd be willing to be he'd take over again if he wasn't happy with the way it was going (which is what ended up happening with MGS3 since 2 was supposed to be his last before).

[TheFlyingOrc]

He's worried about realism....in Metal Gear Solid.

What.

[fitbabits]

Ugh, I just posted this news. And much more cleanly, may I add. ;)

You may add, but it's not going to make a bit of difference! :)

[Klunka]

I am entirely unsurprised. Excited at the prospect mind you, but not surprised in the least.

[digitalErich]

While I'll gladly play more MGS games, his references to "realism" with respect to the series is unintentionally hilarious.

The more exposure I have to this guy, the more and more he's starting to sound like the videogame equivalent of a used car salesman.

[scythe]

As long as it's not Johnny/Akiba, I can live with whoever they choose to be the next main character. Most likely, it'll be someone completely new based on the interviews on the MGS4 LE bonus disc.

[TrackZero]

You may add, but it's not going to make a bit of difference! :)

Well, I can't see what I submitted now, so it's all dust in the wind.

[fitbabits]

Methinks TZ is upset with me... :(

[TrackZero]

Methinks TZ is upset with me... :(

Nah nah, it's all good. You didn't know. Even though my subject, quote choice and end comment were all better. ;)

[51|RandoM]

There is a scene in the game that makes it fairly obvious they intend more MG games.

[fitbabits]

Nah nah, it's all good. You didn't know. Even though my subject, quote choice and end comment were all better. ;)

I undeleted yours and merged it with mine - you get top billing.

[ResistanceAddict]

He's worried about realism....in Metal Gear Solid.

What.

As much as I love the game... the scene with Raiden break-dancing with the machines attached to his legs just destroyed any idea of realism for me.

[Gott]

Great...Metal Gear will be synonymous with Scary Movie and Saw movies...

Ever heard of quitting while you're ahead? I guess they'd rather ride the franchise into the ground for the prospect of a few more sales.

How about Kojima try and come up with some orginal ideas?

[Greeble]

I loved the gameplay in MGS4. To me they really streamlined the controls, though the new cqc stuff took a bit to get used to. But the octocamo, solid eye and mk II were all excellent additions.

[violentp]

Great...Metal Gear will be synonymous with Scary Movie and Saw movies...

Ever heard of quitting while you're ahead? I guess they'd rather ride the franchise into the ground for the prospect of a few more sales.

How about Kojima try and come up with some orginal ideas?

Nah, you're not bitter.

[lion2]

Uh-oh. Does this mean we're getting Metal Gear Raiden?

[TheFlyingOrc]

As much as I love the game... the scene with Raiden break-dancing with the machines attached to his legs just destroyed any idea of realism for me.

Really? You didn't figure it out the first time Liquid said "dominant genes" in the first game?

[TheFlyingOrc]

Nah, you're not bitter.
Also, he implied that the "Scary Movie" films somehow lost their way, not that they were terrible to begin with.

Metal Gear is about a style of game that has so far been about the same story. I don't want them to stop making racing games tomorrow, either.

I think the series is severely overrated (and that you should lose your license to think if you enjoy the story un-ironically), but I have no beef with another game in the same vein. Now they just need to release it on a system whose fanbase isn't primarily manchildren...;)

[TrackZero]

I undeleted yours and merged it with mine - you get top billing.

Heh, I actually just liked my subject. But the gesture is appreciated. ;)

Edit: Since we don't know if they'll totally drop the "Solid" moniker now.

[Kuya Cocoy]

It'll be about the 4th unknown clone of Big Boss... Gassy Snake.

His mortal nemesis will have to be Rosemary's baby.

[Karamazov]

Metal Gear Solid: Cobra Unit.

MAKE IT HAPPEN

[H.Bogard]

Also, he implied that the "Scary Movie" films somehow lost their way, not that they were terrible to begin with.

Metal Gear is about a style of game that has so far been about the same story. I don't want them to stop making racing games tomorrow, either.

I think the series is severely overrated (and that you should lose your license to think if you enjoy the story un-ironically), but I have no beef with another game in the same vein. Now they just need to release it on a system whose fanbase isn't primarily manchildren...;)

I just wish MGS5 would be all about hunting monkeys. No cutscenes, no endless anime-wannabe storyline, no gay jokes... just monkeys and a gun!

[violentp]

Also, he implied that the "Scary Movie" films somehow lost their way, not that they were terrible to begin with.

Metal Gear is about a style of game that has so far been about the same story. I don't want them to stop making racing games tomorrow, either.

I think the series is severely overrated (and that you should lose your license to think if you enjoy the story un-ironically), but I have no beef with another game in the same vein. Now they just need to release it on a system whose fanbase isn't primarily manchildren...;)

I enjoyed the story in it's convoluted way but hey, I enjoyed Waterworld.

[bapenguin]

Lets hope they improve the AI (http://www.aeropause.com/2008/06/the-more-metal-gear-changes-the-more-metal-gear-remains-the-same/).

[Variable Gear]

Uh-oh. Does this mean we're getting Metal Gear Raiden?
I hope so.

[51|RandoM]

How about Kojima try and come up with some orginal ideas?

He's had more than we've seen from you.

[violentp]

Lets hope they improve the AI (http://www.aeropause.com/2008/06/the-more-metal-gear-changes-the-more-metal-gear-remains-the-same/).

Funny, I recently beat it and the AI faults didn't stick out at all but yeah, probably best to dwell on it.

[Kelegacy]

Great...Metal Gear will be synonymous with Scary Movie and Saw movies...

Ever heard of quitting while you're ahead? I guess they'd rather ride the franchise into the ground for the prospect of a few more sales.

How about Kojima try and come up with some orginal ideas?

That's like saying Halo 3 should be the last of that franchise.

Too many people want more. If the quality is there, where's the problem?

[Variable Gear]

Unfortunately, that guy is playing Ninja Gaiden 2 at the moment, which pretty much kills his entire argument.

[bapenguin]

Funny, I recently beat it and the AI faults didn't stick out at all but yeah, probably best to dwell on it.

Despite the game have the best presentation of any game to date, there's just so many things that aren't very next-gen in the game. Loading sequences and AI Awareness being some of them.

[violentp]

Despite the game have the best presentation of any game to date, there's just so many things that aren't very next-gen in the game. Loading sequences and AI Awareness being some of them.

If next gen was a science and we were all scientists, then we can sit here and argue the semantics. As it stands, the overall experience of the game supersedes everything else. Those who fail to realize that are truly missing out.

[Talon-]

Great...Metal Gear will be synonymous with Scary Movie and Saw movies...

Ever heard of quitting while you're ahead? I guess they'd rather ride the franchise into the ground for the prospect of a few more sales.

How about Kojima try and come up with some orginal ideas?

What makes you believe the next game would be awful?

This applies to anyone that shits on the next Halo game, the next Final Fantasy game, etc. Unless you've seen a pattern of deteriorating quality, it's ludicrous to say that a franchise is heading into oblivion.

[Gorvi]

Despite the game have the best presentation of any game to date, there's just so many things that aren't very next-gen in the game. Loading sequences and AI Awareness being some of them.
What difficulty setting are you playing on? The AI is almost too aware if you ask me, it gets really tough to actually sneak around at times.
Great...Metal Gear will be synonymous with Scary Movie and Saw movies...

Ever heard of quitting while you're ahead? I guess they'd rather ride the franchise into the ground for the prospect of a few more sales.

How about Kojima try and come up with some orginal ideas?
Do you have any clue what you're talking about? For something recent that's more original from Kojima, try Zone of the Enders and it's incredible (as in one of the best games of the last gen) sequel.
I think the series is severely overrated
As is Smash Bros.
(and that you should lose your license to think if you enjoy the story un-ironically), but I have no beef with another game in the same vein.
The story really isn't half as bad as most who aren't familiar with it believe it is. 4 does a damn good job of bringing it lot of it together.

[JRR006]

As long as they keep the homo-eroticism turned up to 11, I'll be satisfied.

[Deadend]

They could easily make a game staring Raiden in the period between MGS2 and 4, the whole cyberization process, a game taking place over the course of years and involving new to the series mechanics. Or they could go have some missions late in Foxhound's life right before Snake Joins, or where you play AS the Foxhound from Metal Gear Solid. As here is the thing...

MGS may have a convoluted story, but it has some great characters and even though over the course of all the games, we have only seen a small glimpse into their lives. MGS1 took place over the course of 24 hours, same with MGS2 and MGS3 was maybe 8 days in total narrative. There are YEARS of these characters lives not covered by the games.

Hell, Konami could even make a WW2 game where you kill nazis as The Boss with support from The COBRAs.

I just hope that the production values on new MGS games are up to the standards set by existing MGS games.

[bapenguin]

What difficulty setting are you playing on? The AI is almost too aware if you ask me, it gets really tough to actually sneak around at times.

I'm playing on the one that was for "North America"

That's the problem, it's very fake. It's very forced. Or, it's the complete opposite like the picture showed.

[bapenguin]

If next gen was a science and we were all scientists, then we can sit here and argue the semantics. As it stands, the overall experience of the game supersedes everything else. Those who fail to realize that are truly missing out.

Oh I agree it's truly a great piece of entertainment, but that doesn't change the fact that there are flaws.

[Robber Baron]

I'm probably in a minority of one on this, but I'd love remakes of the original Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake.

[violentp]

I'm probably in a minority of one on this, but I'd love remakes of the original Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake.

That's a fantastic idea.

[violentp]

Oh I agree it's truly a great piece of entertainment, but that doesn't change the fact that there are flaws.

The Mona Lisa has flaws. We choose to see what we want.

[Variable Gear]

There will never not be flaws in human craftsmanship. The thing is, you have to look past that and enjoy what the creators did right. That's not to say that reviews are meaningless or anything, just that it's unwise to point out that there are flaws in a specific game, as if all games don't have flaws.

[Gorvi]

I'm playing on the one that was for "North America"
Which one is that? Honestly, I have no clue.
That's the problem, it's very fake. It's very forced. Or, it's the complete opposite like the picture showed.
Fake and forced? How so?

[Baron Samedi]

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/gallery/2006/07/26/ShockJillGgallery.jpg

[Talon-]

There will never not be flaws in human craftsmanship. The thing is, you have to look past that and enjoy what the creators did right. That's not to say that reviews are meaningless or anything, just that it's unwise to point out that there are flaws in a specific game, as if all games don't have flaws.

You can't just gloss over them, though. It's fine to point out flaws, but a good reviewer doesn't focus on them while ignoring what a game does well.

My problem with the GTA IV coverage were the reviews filled with outlandish hyperbole while entirely ignoring the drive-chase-kill merry-go-round, the inconsistent morals of the story, etc. I don't need a review to make excuses for the developer when the pop-in is so ridiculous that I've actually driven into a tree that popped onto the screen.

I'm not saying the game doesn't deserve the A+/10/5 whatsoever. I just got sick of reading reviews telling me that my world was about to change with this game.

[Johan]

Another MGS game? I'm shocked, I tell you...SHOCKED!

Now, I suppose you'll tell me that there will be another Halo...or another Mario game...or another <insert endless litany of sequelized IP here>

The Mona Lisa has flaws. We choose to see what we want.

You're comparing MGS4 to the Mona Lisa?

:boggle:

[digitalErich]

The Mona Lisa has flaws. We choose to see what we want.
We can also choose to ignore contradictions to our preconceptions. It works both ways.

[digitalErich]

Another MGS game? I'm shocked, I tell you...SHOCKED!
The real shock here is that people keep believing Kojima et all when they say this is the last one.

[violentp]

We can also choose to ignore contradictions to our preconceptions. It works both ways.

Absolutely but what is the point in fooling yourself by diluting your true opinions? The problem wouldn't be one of the Mona Lisa lacking beauty due to the cracks on the canvas but rather because of personal distaste. We should all know what we like and what hate and we should stand strong by those opinions instead of looking for outside validations.

Another MGS game? I'm shocked, I tell you...SHOCKED!

Now, I suppose you'll tell me that there will be another Halo...or another Mario game...or another <insert endless litany of sequelized IP here>

Funny, I was just thinking about you.

[Johan]

Funny, I was just thinking about you.

I never stop thinking about you...;)

Don't worry...I'll be gone for a month, and after that, I may have kicked the habit, just like I did with smoking.

[violentp]

I never stop thinking about you...;)

Don't worry...I'll be gone for a month, and after that, I may have kicked the habit, just like I did with smoking.

I was always against someone helping you leave this place. Just like kicking anything, you gotta do it yourself. Good seeing ya and make an appearance every now and again.

[Variable Gear]

You can't just gloss over them, though. It's fine to point out flaws, but a good reviewer doesn't focus on them while ignoring what a game does well.
I agree, you can't gloss over the flaws but you shouldn't minimize what the game gets right.

Also, giving a game the "world changing" label is a death sentence.

[Talon-]

I agree, you can't gloss over the flaws but you shouldn't minimize what the game gets right.

Also, giving a game the "world changing" label is a death sentence.

Absolutely. You can't ignore the good, particularly when it outshines the bad.

Yeah, hyperbole is a thing to avoid, especially when the video game fanbase is as cynical as it's proven to be.

[Kefkataran]

The real shock here is that people keep believing Kojima et all when they say this is the last one.

They've never said it's the final one, though Kojima has said this will be the final one where he's the head guy on it. We'll see.

[Vandenh]

I know I've heard a number of people appreciate the gameplay design and narrative elements in MGS4

You have some weird friends.

[AversionFX]

I want a Metal Gear game from Grey Fox's POV.

[mister_slim]

I'm playing on the one that was for "North America"

That's the problem, it's very fake. It's very forced. Or, it's the complete opposite like the picture showed.

What games would you consider to have better AI?

[Kefkataran]

You have some weird friends.

How so? Though I disagree, I can understand why people wouldn't appreciate the narrative style of the MGS series. But gameplay in MGS4 in particular is extremely refined and quite fantastic, IMO. That seems to be the general consensus even among people who didn't dig the game overall.

[menage]

I would love to see what Kojima could come up with if he's free of his existing franchises. A new MGS would be great. But having just finished 4 yesterday and still having my head full of the brilliance of it all I also wouldn't mind if this was the conclusion.

[DeluxE]

Just beat the game, and while I can say that the actual gameplay was the most enjoyable of the series for me, (with the best camera, ability to MOVE and shoot in FP at the same time, interaction with groups of allies, and some other little surprises I've been hoping for since the first game), the story sequences are just too unbearable for words.

Every single one is at least twice as long as it should be, filled with laughable melodrama and cheeseball writing. None of the pesudo-politics make any sense, even as allegory, and the suspention of disbelife the story demands is too great to keep it at all rooted in anything but the lightest of cartoon fantasy.

Fine you say, I can deal with that, after all we don't expect great literature from our action games, and I agree as long as the story's fun and to the point. But someone forgot to tell Kojima that... MGS4 gives us moody 15 minute mission briefings which are literally little more that a bunch of people standing around looking tired. Sure they tie-up all the loose ends from the series, but they do it in some of the most embarasing examples of storytelling ever inflicted on "Mature" audiences...

With the improved quality of writing evident in recent action games like BioShock, Half Life 2, Uncharted and Heavenly Sword, it's hard to sit through a protracted wedding scene that feels like it was written by a twelve year old with a pichant for fart jokes. Maybe when I was 14, playing Ninja Gaiden on the NES, this kind of amature cinema would have been amazing... now I'm just amazed at the millions of dollars Kojima and Co. have spent on what amounts to the most pretentious three-hour GI Joe episode imaginable.

Oh well, at least it looked pretty.

[TheFlyingOrc]

As is Smash Bros.

Yes, but I'm not delusional enough to not like Metal Gear. I can just live without it.

edit: and that was way more console wars fanboy defending ya did there, Gorvi. Comes off a mite bit hypocritical.

[Gorvi]

Yes, but I'm not delusional enough to not like Metal Gear. I can just live without it.

edit: and that was way more console wars fanboy defending ya did there, Gorvi. Comes off a mite bit hypocritical.
Console defending? I like the game (MGS), not the console. Hell, I love Mario, Zelda, and Metroid, but dislike Smash Bros and Pokemon. It's all in the game.

[Johan]

It's [all] in the game.

http://www.cherryflava.com/cherryflava/images/2007/05/03/ea_logo.jpg

[menage]

A lot of txt

I couldn't disagree with you more. Yes it's fantasy, sci-fi. But I would easely put this alongside a movie like the Matrix.

[Redline]

Uhh. People like the narrative in MGS? I think it's been hokey B-Grade drivel since the PSOne game. And those voice overs, ouch.

[violentp]

Uhh. People like the narrative in Halo? I think it's been hokey B-Grade drivel since the Xbox game. And those voice overs, ouch.

Agreed. There's something out there for everyone I guess.

[SpectralWolf]

They could easily make a game staring Raiden in the period between MGS2 and 4, the whole cyberization process, a game taking place over the course of years and involving new to the series mechanics. Or they could go have some missions late in Foxhound's life right before Snake Joins, or where you play AS the Foxhound from Metal Gear Solid. As here is the thing...

MGS may have a convoluted story, but it has some great characters and even though over the course of all the games, we have only seen a small glimpse into their lives. MGS1 took place over the course of 24 hours, same with MGS2 and MGS3 was maybe 8 days in total narrative. There are YEARS of these characters lives not covered by the games.

Hell, Konami could even make a WW2 game where you kill nazis as The Boss with support from The COBRAs.

I just hope that the production values on new MGS games are up to the standards set by existing MGS games.

Excellent suggestions...... all of them.

I'm probably in a minority of one on this, but I'd love remakes of the original Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake.

Another excellent idea.

Just beat the game, and while I can say that the actual gameplay was the most enjoyable of the series for me, (with the best camera, ability to MOVE and shoot in FP at the same time, interaction with groups of allies, and some other little surprises I've been hoping for since the first game), the story sequences are just too unbearable for words.

Every single one is at least twice as long as it should be, filled with laughable melodrama and cheeseball writing. None of the pesudo-politics make any sense, even as allegory, and the suspention of disbelife the story demands is too great to keep it at all rooted in anything but the lightest of cartoon fantasy.

Fine you say, I can deal with that, after all we don't expect great literature from our action games, and I agree as long as the story's fun and to the point. But someone forgot to tell Kojima that... MGS4 gives us moody 15 minute mission briefings which are literally little more that a bunch of people standing around looking tired. Sure they tie-up all the loose ends from the series, but they do it in some of the most embarasing examples of storytelling ever inflicted on "Mature" audiences...

With the improved quality of writing evident in recent action games like BioShock, Half Life 2, Uncharted and Heavenly Sword, it's hard to sit through a protracted wedding scene that feels like it was written by a twelve year old with a pichant for fart jokes. Maybe when I was 14, playing Ninja Gaiden on the NES, this kind of amature cinema would have been amazing... now I'm just amazed at the millions of dollars Kojima and Co. have spent on what amounts to the most pretentious three-hour GI Joe episode imaginable.

Oh well, at least it looked pretty.

Thank you for your opinions. :mad: I do not share them.

[Johan]

Thank you for your opinions. :mad: I do not share them.

It's fun to watch sacred cows take some hits...the fanboy hive just goes NUTSO! The launch of Halo 3 brought the same kind of entertainment.

You're better off not replying...

[Variable Gear]

How about Metal Gear AC!D 3 for PS3/PSN? That would be hot.

[Dukefrukem]

Guys, why would they stop the story snake? Is he not the face of the Metal Gear series to begin with? Why end it here? Everyone else they create in Snake's shadow will end up getting the response like Raiden got.

[Variable Gear]

I'm going to let Nojiri-san know that I would really like to play MGA3.

[Kefkataran]

It's fun to watch sacred cows take some hits...the fanboy hive just goes NUTSO! The launch of Halo 3 brought the same kind of entertainment.

You're better off not replying...

To be fair, "Thank you for your opinions, I do not share them" is a FAR better/more acceptable response than some insane fanboy shit. Shawn Elliot's been getting stomped over on 1UP for even barely questioning some aspects of the game.

[Gorvi]

How about Metal Gear AC!D 3 for PS3/PSN? That would be hot.
I'm going to let Nojiri-san know that I would really like to play MGA3.
I endorse this message! Though I'd rather see the series stick to the PSP myself. :)

[Nate Graves]

Uh-oh. Does this mean we're getting Metal Gear Raiden?

I hate to crush hopes, but no. We aren't.

I had actually considered that the games might start following Raiden, but after seeing MGS4...no. Whatever it is, I suspect we'll be looking at new characters, settings, probably an entirely seperate universe/world apart from the existing pseudo-real timeline all this takes place in.

Which I am actually totally behind, since it means more freedom to do crazy shit without people bitching about a lack of realism in their game about a nuclear equipped walking battle tank.

[Kefkataran]

I hate to crush hopes, but no. We aren't.

I had actually considered that the games might start following Raiden, but after seeing MGS4...no. Whatever it is, I suspect we'll be looking at new characters, settings, probably an entirely seperate universe/world apart from the existing pseudo-real timeline all this takes place in.

Which I am actually totally behind, since it means more freedom to do crazy shit without people bitching about a lack of realism in their game about a nuclear equipped walking battle tank.

Um, actually that's what I was hoping for, but if you read the news story, Payton's comments strongly hint that a potential MGS5 would stay strictly in the current world/continuity of MGS by fleshing out Big Boss's backstory. So...

[Johan]

To be fair, "Thank you for your opinions, I do not share them" is a FAR better/more acceptable response than some insane fanboy shit.

Indeed!

Shawn Elliot's been getting stomped over on 1UP for even barely questioning some aspects of the game.

The interesting thing to me is, if games are TRULY going to be accepted as [interactive] art, then games MUST accept a level of intellectual/artistic critique as well...

artists and art aficionados/experts deal with that all the time. Gamers? Yeah...not so much! :D

[Dukefrukem]

So no one can answer my question why they would abandon Snake? Is he not the face of the series? Why stray from that?

[violentp]

So no one can answer my question why they would abandon Snake? Is he not the face of the series? Why stray from that?

Go to the MGS spoiler thread. You're sure to find the answer there. Also, Raiden has been somewhat redeemed.

[Dukefrukem]

Also, Raiden has been somewhat redeemed.

I agree with this.

[Variable Gear]

I endorse this message! Though I'd rather see the series stick to the PSP myself. :)
Hey, couldn't Konami make it playable on both PSP and PSN? ;)

[Gorvi]

Hey, couldn't Konami make it playable on both PSP and PSN? ;)
That would be damn nice. Hell, I'd buy a freakin' N-Gage if it meant more MGA.

[SpectralWolf]

Indeed!



The interesting thing to me is, if games are TRULY going to be accepted as [interactive] art, then games MUST accept a level of intellectual/artistic critique as well...

artists and art aficionados/experts deal with that all the time. Gamers? Yeah...not so much! :D

Please...the criticism I was replying to did not come across as artistic. But anyway....movin' on...

[Talon-]

That would be damn nice. Hell, I'd buy a freakin' N-Gage if it meant more MGA.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold it, Tiger. Think about what you just said.

[Johan]

Please...the criticism I was replying to did not come across as artistic. But anyway....movin' on...

Is your name kefkataran? Because, I was under the impression that it wasn't...and my post was directed at him, thank you very little. Don't get your panties in a bunch...AGAIN.

Sacred cows are meant to be eaten, not worshiped.

[Gorvi]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold it, Tiger. Think about what you just said.
Yeah, I know. But still, I'd buy a new system if I had to for a new MGA, MGA2 was a really, really great game.