Final Fantasy Advent Children Leaked [Archive]

the good doctor

09-12-2005, 01:03 PM

FF7acmovie.com is reporting (http://www.ff7acmovie.com/news/ff7ac_news/ff7ac_full_movie_dvd_rip_leaked.html) that a piracy group has released a DivX version of the Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children movie. The leaked version is in Japanese. A US release of the movie is due in late November on DVD and PSP UMD.

Dear Final Fantasy fans of the World, the moment has arrived, Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children, the full movie has been leaked by pirate group called BiEN this morning (incidentally, "bien" means "good" in French and "well" in Spanish). And it's not just a cam or fake release, but a full DVD quality release. The encoding is XviD, it is a DVD Rip Release. The film is in Japanese and the provided subtitles are also in Japanese.
You can read the full story Here (http://www.ff7acmovie.com/news/ff7ac_news/ff7ac_full_movie_dvd_rip_leaked.html).

Paltry

09-12-2005, 03:56 PM

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Kefkataran

09-12-2005, 03:57 PM

Shit. Get me English subtitles, plz. Kthx.

frederec

09-12-2005, 03:58 PM

I do believe I saw this with English subtitles on the usual torrent sites this morning. The Japanese version was leaked yesterday morning. Man, people work fast.

Rirath

09-12-2005, 04:15 PM

A good deal of anime is fansubbed the same day anymore, most within a few days tops. I've seen subs in under an hour. It's a whole new world from 10 years ago or so when anime was poorly dubbed and cut stuff on TV, RealMedia files at like 10-20MB, and VHS tapes. ^^;

Mr_Snuffle

09-12-2005, 04:17 PM

I find the legality of this... questionable. Seems like an odd thing for a large news site to have

"Go pirate at this link!"

Still, thanks for the heads up :P

agentgray

09-12-2005, 04:21 PM

civx

09-12-2005, 04:23 PM

It wasn't all that good of a movie.

Evil Avatar

09-12-2005, 04:28 PM

I find the legality of this... questionable. Seems like an odd thing for a large news site to have

"Go pirate at this link!"

Still, thanks for the heads up :P

They have a similar story up on Games.slashdot. Posting news about the leak of a popular video game movie is the same as when we have reported on the pirate pre-release of some of the more popular games. It is just information (and information you can find most anywhere).

Heretic Machine

09-12-2005, 04:31 PM

God... do you know how much the mere mention of this movie makes me want to troll? Can you even comprehend it?

Hizawky

09-12-2005, 04:31 PM

I will wait for the english, and probably a few years after then.

I loved FF7.

I even liked that movie they made.

But for some reason I am not excited about this at all.

Phades

09-12-2005, 04:35 PM

They have a similar story up on Games.slashdot. Posting news about the leak of a popular video game movie is the same as when we have reported on the pirate pre-release of some of the more popular games. It is just information (and information you can find most anywhere).

I think in this case it's more of the way in which the article portrays the leak. Instead of being a factual "So and so has been leaked onto the internet by pirates," it reads more like "hey, you can go get it now and here's how!!"

It's too bad. I'm going to feel very guilty.

agentgray

09-12-2005, 04:38 PM

They have a similar story up on Games.slashdot. Posting news about the leak of a popular video game movie is the same as when we have reported on the pirate pre-release of some of the more popular games. It is just information (and information you can find most anywhere).Then why not html the link in the post here? So it was posted here because /. posted it?

However, you're the boss :), and if you say it flies, then it flies.

Xerxes

09-12-2005, 04:39 PM

As I obtain this nugget, I can tell you it still won't matter when the DVD finally arrives. Mind was made up after the first trailer. I'm getting this seen it before or not. Fans subs or studio dubs.

NoName

09-12-2005, 04:42 PM

I'm in the process of watching it now. So far, wow. I'm slowly loosing hope for the plot but Tifa's first fight scene is pretty awesome. And the graphics... simply amazing.

The nice thing about an animated movie about a game, they can make it stick to the game really well... just, come on plot, don't fail me now!

Tricky Thumb

09-12-2005, 04:49 PM

I never expected this movie to have any sort of respectable "plot", all I want is the action scenes really.

Oh yeah and pretty CG, that's fun too.

Liquidize105

09-12-2005, 04:50 PM

You know I started editing it then I saw that he was quoting another site. I guess those peeps over at ff7acmovies was so excited about the movie they took to the pirate release as the official release.

A-Team

09-12-2005, 04:52 PM

So like, oops. I just submitted old news to the page!

Anyway, the news is pretty much everywhere and it's not like either of the sites - EA or the one linked to in the first post - have direct downloads for the DVD.

Zeal

09-12-2005, 04:55 PM

FunkyPoopMonkey

09-12-2005, 04:56 PM

The movie was exactly like I expected. Great action, music, production value. Horrible plot. Square hasn't been able to write anything decent since 1998.

Evil Avatar

09-12-2005, 05:02 PM

lol every forum has at least one self-righteous, anti-piracy fanatic. They spew their rhetoric then quietly go download the file in question.

In general our policy around here is strictly anti-piracy, but as I stated... posting news that a big game or a big movie got leaked onto the 'net is just news. I would encourage people to wait and purchase a legitmate copy of the DVD when it becomes available (double that since the US DVD will have an english dub), but I don't see that we are hurting anything to report that the movie got leaked out.

As long as we don't fall into the habit of posting every time something gets leaked and/or posting links to questionable sites I think we are Ok with this one story.

Liquidize105

09-12-2005, 05:10 PM

The English and their dubbing skills :o

I remember watching Spirited Away and thinking "Why isn't Japanese + English sub on by default?"

rein

09-12-2005, 05:12 PM

As long as the files aren't provided for downloading, there's nothing wrong with discussing such.

I think just looking at the thread and seeing how many people have already watched the non-released movie is proof enough of what kind of news post this really turned out to be. That being said, it is Evils site and his call.

Zeal

09-12-2005, 05:25 PM

It's just my opinion. I don't think threads like this really hurt anything.

They're pretty informative.

Deadend

09-12-2005, 05:31 PM

So... the movie is done... why wait forever to release it?

It seems most things get pirated within several days of completion, so companies should stop sitting on retail goods and just get it over with.

A-Team

09-12-2005, 06:40 PM

It's just my opinion. I don't think threads like this really hurt anything.

They're pretty informative.
Yeah, I would never have found a place to download the English subtitles.

Just kidding!

nfwolfpryde

09-12-2005, 06:59 PM

Let me tell you, this movie is FANTASTIC. And yes, There are English subs out there (I can't speak Japanese), but it's absolutely fantastic.

agentgray

09-12-2005, 07:03 PM

In general our policy around here is strictly anti-piracy, but as I stated... posting news that a big game or a big movie got leaked onto the 'net is just news. I would encourage people to wait and purchase a legitmate copy of the DVD when it becomes available (double that since the US DVD will have an english dub), but I don't see that we are hurting anything to report that the movie got leaked out.

As long as we don't fall into the habit of posting every time something gets leaked and/or posting links to questionable sites I think we are Ok with this one story.
I agreee with what you are saying but the way it was presented in the original newspost was sketchy.

EA, thanks for taking the stand out there and making it news and not an opportunity to pirate. And thanks for hearing what we say and making changes (if warranted) that go against the norm of sites like this one.

I think it is what makes this site great and is probably why some us us are willing to pay, no matter how much or little to help keep it running. Kudos.

</brown nosing off> ;)

agentgray

09-12-2005, 07:06 PM

lol every forum has at least one self-righteous, anti-piracy fanatic. They spew their rhetoric then quietly go download the file in question.

"HOW DOTH THOU DOEST SUCH EVIL?!"

"(oh snap...I getting 400k down...)"

As long as the files aren't provided for downloading, there's nothing wrong with discussing such.
Um...no download for me. I intend to buy it for the PSP. Check my post history, I'm not usually the fanatic, but, yeah there is usually one.

Zeal

09-12-2005, 07:08 PM

Oh, I wasn't pointing out anyone specifically. And since this is a thread for discussion only, I'd like to let everyone know that a complete DVD rip has also surfaced, including subs.

(flawless quality, too)

Exodus

09-12-2005, 07:09 PM

Oh no, people are talking about piracy! omg! burn them at the stake! omg there is no god! I saw janet jacksons tit!

... just because you choose to hood your eyes doesn't mean it'll go away. I'm not saying accept piracy, but you know I for one appreciate reviews from those with hands in the underbelly of this great information community of ours. Especially something this interesting.

Don't condone it, but I wanna know if it's good!

Kamalot

09-12-2005, 07:34 PM

I've put together a short review/preview/impressions of Final Fantasy: Advent Children.

http://kamalot.blogspot.com/2005/09/final-fantasy-cash-in.html

agentgray

09-12-2005, 07:34 PM

Royal Fool

09-12-2005, 07:35 PM

I was a huge, huge fan of Square's (And Enix') games back when I was younger. Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Parasite Eve, Vagrant Story, Xenogears, Super Mario RPG... then the abysmal FFX and The Bouncer hit, and they were never the same. Even less so after the Square/Enix merger.

I dunno why FFVII is worshipped so much by all those crazy drooling fans, to me it's not Square's greatest masterpiece. Heck... I even rate FFVIII higher. Feel free to burn me. Anyway, I'm just really not interested in this movie. And I own The Spirits Within on DVD.

Evil Avatar

09-12-2005, 07:49 PM

I've put together a short review/preview/impressions of Final Fantasy: Advent Children.

http://kamalot.blogspot.com/2005/09/final-fantasy-cash-in.html

I had to delete your news submission. I'm not going to remove the link from the forums, but posting a link to a review of a pirate movie/game is a bit much even for me. :)

vanlandw

09-12-2005, 07:49 PM

I cannot believe that this is being posted here. Where was the pirating policy for evilavatar.com?

I know that it's not the full movie (the post makes you seem to think it is, they play a clip to show it - of which I did not watch) and that it is not an HTML link (it's still a link), but the original source goes into good detail on how to acquire the DVD rip.

Bad form.

I love this site as much as the next guy, but I think this would be walking that really close line of illegal. Why am I questioning this? Because I and others have been raked over the coals for mentioning anything about walking that line before.

..and the whole "it's available in Japan but not the US so fansubs are ok" argument probably doesn't apply here. It's not available in either country, but it soon will be.

Many sites like digg.com have been posting this link and i've felt the same way. They have the same type of policy where they aren't suppost to be posting piracy links but it's still going though. I understand how this is news really a link to a direct download of the material is a little odd for both digg and EA.com. I for one will be waiting for the US release...i'm not beyond piracy but I have been waiting so long already I might as well wait for the proper release rather then seeing a dvix encode. Thousands of people are just ripping off years of hard work as we speak..oh well....

bardockkun

09-12-2005, 07:51 PM

I dunno why FFVII is worshipped so much by all those crazy drooling fans, to me it's not Square's greatest masterpiece. Heck... I even rate FFVIII higher. Feel free to burn me. Anyway, I'm just really not interested in this movie. And I own The Spirits Within on DVD.

One name only...well two depending on what you want to call her, Aeris/Aerith. There's a reason why she's always in nearly every damn FF7 fanfic and why people always want to resurrect her corpse. I mean i remember when Kingdom Hearts was being previewed by everygame magazine and all of them always had at least a small caption with "Aerith lives!" Plus the first PS1 FF game or if you really want to push it, established a mainstream RPG.

MasterKwan

09-12-2005, 07:53 PM

You know, if the japanese studios had some form of subscription service that let me download subbed episodes of my favorite shows each week I'd buy in.

1) Some series I like, the fan subbers don't so they don't get translated

2) Some series get butchered when released here in the states. Funimation for example often completely re-does a series so, it's nothing like the original.

3) It's a pain in the ass to keep track of releases I want to watch.

4) It sometimes takes years for the DVD's to hit the states.

Initial D is a perfect example. They're just now finishing releasing season 2 here, season 4 just finished up in Japan. The dubbing is horrible with name changes and just stupid commentary.

I've gotten so, I only buy anime DVD's that are released in a "Full Season" box set format. The normal format is 3 episodes per DVD for $25-30 US so, a season works out to over $200. I'd much rather spend $80 for a full season so, I can get in an orgy of watching. From a marketing standpoint, the worst thing for the official dubbing companies like Funimation is, I don't make any impulse purchases any more. I know if the anime is crap or not before I slap my money down. Used to be, I'd buy a DVD and not really know if it sucked or not (Witch Hunter Robin anyone?).

FunkyPoopMonkey

09-12-2005, 07:54 PM

I've put together a short review/preview/impressions of Final Fantasy: Advent Children.

http://kamalot.blogspot.com/2005/09/final-fantasy-cash-in.html
Even though you leave out all the positives, I totally agree with your gripes. And this is coming from someone who thinks FF7 is in the top 5 best games of all time.

basil ho

09-12-2005, 07:55 PM

i really cant wait for this film.

i love final fantasy as much as i do a big harv with all the toppings. mmmmm.

bardockkun

09-12-2005, 08:02 PM

Also anyone know if the Final Fantasy 7 OVA that came with the limited edition of it in Japan has been leaked? The one with traditional anime animation and isnt going to come out in the US version of Advent Children (though i wouldn't be suprised if released apart from it).

Paranoia

09-12-2005, 08:05 PM

*waits for English dubbed version*

StrifeSnake13*

09-12-2005, 08:17 PM

Kamalot

09-12-2005, 08:22 PM

I thought the movie was great, I recommend finding some subtitles before you watch it though. If your not a FFVII fan you will probably only like the movie for the action, the fans will enjoy the other stuff and will be satisfied with the film. FF The spirits within was for the general public and the FF fans dident like it very much, this is for the fans and some of the general public wont really understand/like the movie that much.

The recent Spider Man and Batman series showed us that a film can appeal to fans and the general public at the same time. In fact, there are probably MORE fans of Spider Man and Batman today as a result of those films.

The two audiences shouldn't be mutually exclusive.

Danin

09-12-2005, 08:26 PM

FF The spirits within was for the general public and the FF fans dident like it very much

Neither did the general public :P

And yeah Advent Children is completely ill. I never expect anything remotely resembling a sensible plot out of anything coming out of Japan nowadays in anything shorter than a 26-episode format. OAVs and movies like this are basically there for the pretties and the fanservice. AC delivers both in spades. My jaw was on the ground for pretty much the entire movie, so I'd say SE made a pretty successful project.

StrifeSnake13*

09-12-2005, 08:36 PM

The recent Spider Man and Batman series showed us that a film can appeal to fans and the general public at the same time. In fact, there are probably MORE fans of Spider Man and Batman today as a result of those films.

The two audiences shouldn't be mutually exclusive.
It's kind of hard to do when you are coming from a game franchise to a movie, FF TSW was targeted twords the general population because it had almost nothing to do with any FF game, it was coming out in theaters so they had to make it more appealing to the general population.

with FFVII AC, they had to target the fans much more than the general population because it's a direct sequel to a video game and it is on dvd. It would make no sense to appeal to both like sipderman/batman did because if the general public dident play the game, they wont truly understand the movie anyway.

The first Spideman and batman movie's were not a sequel's, everyone was on the same page when those movies came out so it's not a fair compairason.

Do you realize how stupid FFVII AC would seem to fans it it tryed to apeal to both? A dvd sequal to a videogame trying to appeal to fans who know the story by heart and the genaral puplic that dosent know jack shit about FFVII. It would not work.

Most people that dont like FF still like the action in the movie so yea....

bardockkun

09-12-2005, 08:46 PM

It's kind of hard to do when you are coming from a game franchise to a movie, FF TSW was targeted twords the general population because it had almost nothing to do with any FF game, it was coming out in theaters so they had to make it more appealing to the general population.

with FFVII AC, they had to target the fans much more than the general population because it's a direct sequel to a video game and it is on dvd. It would make no sense to appeal to both like sipderman/batman did because if the general public dident play the game, they wont truly understand the movie anyway.

The first Spideman and batman movie's were not a sequel's, everyone was on the same page when those movies came out so it's not a fair compairason.

Do you realize how stupid FFVII AC would seem to fans it it tryed to apeal to both? A dvd sequal to a videogame trying to appeal to fans who know the story by heart and the genaral puplic that dosent know jack shit about FFVII. It would not work.

Most people that dont like FF still like the action in the movie so yea....
First of all it would be possible to bring about a sequel to a game in movie form. Movies like Initial D proved that, based on an anime (with over 36 episodes and a movie and an ongoing manga) and now a big hit all across Asia. Not to mention FF:TSW all it had to go on was the name Final Fantasy. That movie itself did nothing but alienate everyone anyways too. As for Batman, Batman was a complete relaunch of the movie since they really had nothing to go on (except for the cartoons but those in itself were for kids and hardcore fans). Since i'd hardly call Batman Begins a sequel to Batman and Robin.

StrifeSnake13*

09-12-2005, 08:55 PM

It's possible but in FFVII AC's case it works better as a fan movie since it is coming out on dvd and fans of FF are the only ones that will really appreciate it. I could see the original FFVII as a movie that they could make appealing to both but in FFVII AC case, it's a sequel to a game on dvd so it should be more appealing to fans.

Xerxes

09-12-2005, 09:19 PM

Neither did the general public :P

And yeah Advent Children is completely ill. I never expect anything remotely resembling a sensible plot out of anything coming out of Japan nowadays in anything shorter than a 26-episode format. OAVs and movies like this are basically there for the pretties and the fanservice. AC delivers both in spades. My jaw was on the ground for pretty much the entire movie, so I'd say SE made a pretty successful project.

Have you seen Oldboy... :o

Zeal

09-12-2005, 09:20 PM

The ridiculously over the top action sequences are almost comical to watch and the story -- being Square -- naturally makes zero sense. Other than that, it was mildly entertaining.

Oh, and the final fight sequence shamelessly rips off Neo VS Smith in Matrix Revolutions.

Xerxes

09-12-2005, 09:29 PM

I haven't seen it yet but Neo vs Smith pretty much ripped off alot of Dragon Ball Z... O_o

agentgray

09-12-2005, 09:33 PM

I haven't seen it yet but Neo vs Smith pretty much ripped off alot of Dragon Ball Z... O_o
Wasn't it all a hacked rip-off?

Xerxes

09-12-2005, 09:38 PM

What the fuck is hacked?!? O_O

StrifeSnake13*

09-12-2005, 09:40 PM

The ridiculously over the top action sequences are almost comical to watch and the story -- being Square -- naturally makes zero sense. Other than that, it was mildly entertaining.

Final Fantasy is not meant to be realistic, hell a movie called final fantasy being very realistic should not be allowed :cool:

bardockkun

09-12-2005, 09:50 PM

Final Fantasy is not meant to be realistic, hell a movie called final fantasy being very realistic should not be allowed :cool:
If we all took the title Final Fantasy into consideration or more seriously than we wouldnt have sequels to a game with Final in it and not understand how a Final Fantasy can have so many installments. Or in this case a sequel to a sequel of a Final Fantasy

Xerxes

09-12-2005, 09:59 PM

[QUOTE=Zeal]The ridiculously over the top action sequences are almost comical to watch and the story -- being Square -- naturally makes zero sense. Other than that, it was mildly entertaining.
QUOTE]

No, Zeal this is about Final Fantasy:Advent Children, not transporter 2... :D

*Note I didn't take the company name Square out, because it can also be used as lame. A play on words if you will. :o

* = director's commentary

StrifeSnake13*

09-12-2005, 10:04 PM

If we all took the final fantasy into consideration than we wouldnt have sequels to a game with Final in it. Or in this case a sequel to a sequel of a Final Fantasy.
Well it's called final fantasy because squaresoft was going out of business so it was gonna be their last fantasy game, it turns out to be a big hit and save the company so they made more FF's. It's is a fantasy game so what I said about how FF's should not be realistic would still be true.

bardockkun

09-12-2005, 10:12 PM

Well it's called final fantasy because squaresoft business was going out of so it was gonna be their last fantasy game, it turns out to be a big hit and save the company so they made more FF's. It's is a fantasy game so what I said about how FF's should not be realistic would still be true.
I read about that too, since i doubt a game called Squaresoft's Swan Song wouldn't exactly work. Than again im sure one day or another in the year 2040 when Final Fantasy XXX is out, someone will still say "you'd think this would be the real Final fantasy" since i figure alot of people still do think the same thing about it. I'm guessing than this would make even less sense of Spirits Within since that was more science fiction than fantasy... Than again science fiction is a form of fantasy, so im just digging myself a hole here im guessing.

And don't mind my ramblings, trying to do an essay, but cant think so i have to let out random rambles.

Lunar Blue

09-12-2005, 10:19 PM

I have a new mission for life: to declare fatwa to every mofo who has a bad thing to say about this movie and hunt them down ;)

StrifeSnake13*

09-12-2005, 10:45 PM

dont worry bardockkun, I agree the name does not make sense 12 FF's later but I was just saying why it was called that in the first place, it made sense back then.

Heretic Machine

09-12-2005, 11:33 PM

Final Fantasy is not meant to be realistic

Fantasy =/= Senceless action.

Many fantasy stories (anything good) at least try to make sence in context. Final Fantasy generally doesn't, especially from FF7 and up.

Kefkataran

09-12-2005, 11:35 PM

If we all took the title Final Fantasy into consideration or more seriously than we wouldnt have sequels to a game with Final in it and not understand how a Final Fantasy can have so many installments. Or in this case a sequel to a sequel of a Final Fantasy

I agree the name does not make sense 12 FF's later but I was just saying why it was called that in the first place, it made sense back then.

Well except that (up until the last couple years at least) none of the games actually *had* sequels, storyline-wise. Each title was in a different world that was usually facing an "end times" struggle.

I'm not sure about the wiseness of Square's decision to start making actual sequels to some of these stories, since nothing they've produced in that department has been particularly good (FFX-2), but I'll withhold real judgement at least till I've seen this movie and how some of the other FF7-related spin-offs turn out.

Kefkataran

09-12-2005, 11:45 PM

Fantasy =/= Senceless action.

Many fantasy stories (anything good) at least try to make sence in context. Final Fantasy generally doesn't, especially from FF7 and up.

I disagree. The stories tend to be fairly bizarre, but they make sense in the fantasy-world way. Now are they high literature? Far from. If you want that, I fear you'd have to turn to FF6. ;)

Exodus

09-13-2005, 12:26 AM

if I could get my hands on this I would, I would so buy this if someone showed it to me and said give them 50 bucks. I want this bad, I really don't care if it's being pirated I want to watch this bloody thing NOW!

(hates waiting for things to come overseas...) ho hum... the moment is over...
*hops off soap box*

I love the FF's simply because it ALWAYS is about the end of the world with fun characters with actual.. character.. :O my god characters with actual story lines that you are involved in... what an astounding thing!.. and long involved storylines.. twists.. betrayals... it's a trilogy in a disc! that's why I love FF games... it's like reading some fantasy novel but playing a game at the same time. anyways enough ranting I swear I'm getting off the soap box.

TrackZero

09-13-2005, 01:05 AM

Hrm....if I somehow had seen this movie in question, I'd say it was pretty enjoyable. Great CGI action and such...that being in the hypothetical of course.....

I definitely will grab this on DVD and would support seeing it if there's a theatre release near me. Hopefully we'll see more of this stuff.

Heretic Machine

09-13-2005, 01:18 AM

If you want that, I fear you'd have to turn to FF6.

Which is the only one I'd even think of playing these days.

I love the FF's simply because it ALWAYS is about the end of the world with fun characters with actual.. character.. :O my god characters with actual story lines that you are involved in... what an astounding thing!.. and long involved storylines.. twists.. betrayals... it's a trilogy in a disc! that's why I love FF games... it's like reading some fantasy novel but playing a game at the same time. anyways enough ranting I swear I'm getting off the soap box.

...You're stupid. It's that's simple. I could tell you that Final Fantasy games are just generic, standard J-RPG's, or that J-RPG's don't really allow people to role-play, or that they tend to have stories that are quite a bit worse than even children's fantasy novels... or I could even ask you why you mentioned "trilogy" when all that means is that there are three of something... But instead, I'm just going to say that you're stupid.

Zeal

09-13-2005, 02:14 AM

I say the two best FF gamea are IV and VI. No FF has ever been known to have a logical, straightforward story, but it's more of how the stories were told in a unique way.

The early FFs had a lot of talent behind them; nice graphics, amazing music, memorable characters, and good gameplay mechanics. I liked the series mainly do to production value and presentation, such as Yoshitaka Amano's trademark designs and Nobuo Uematsu's music. They gave the player an experience that couldn't be replicated by other games at the time.

All of the modern-day FFs are without a doubt absolute shit, though. The spirit of the series has been replaced with pop-culture bullshit. In a sense, what I'm trying to say is that I feel the FF series has lost its soul.

I also turned on Square after they merged with Enix.

Kefkataran

09-13-2005, 07:33 AM

Which is the only one I'd even think of playing these days.

Hey, you're gonna be hard-pressed to make a guy named 'kefka' fault you for that.

I also turned on Square after they merged with Enix.

Why is that?

Also: Hypothetically speaking, what if one were to, say, have downloaded the movie and downloaded English subtitles but could not figure out how to get the English subtitles to work in the movie? Hypothetically.

Xerxes

09-13-2005, 07:36 AM

Said person would put the subtitled file in the same folder as the movie file, hypothetically. And I think someone hypothetically has a hypothetically software program that hypothetically puts the subtitles on the hypothetical movie. Of course this is speaking strictly hypothetically. -_O

Kefkataran

09-13-2005, 07:40 AM

NoName

09-13-2005, 08:09 AM

Crap, I'm just an idiot, okay? Someone give me step-by-step basics! :p
1. Google "Media player classic" (download, install, ect)
2. Hypothetically, the subtitles are in the same directory as the movie and share the same filename!
3. Profit! :confused:

Kefkataran

09-13-2005, 08:17 AM

This shall be tried, and should it work NoName will be glorified and praised, his name (or lack thereof) passed down in legends to my ancestors and such.

MasterKwan

09-13-2005, 08:57 AM

Well, this theoretical person might need to copy the SSA file into the same folder as the movie file and then use a player, like "ZoomPlayer" that reads in the SSA file when the movie is loaded which then displays the subs.

TrackZero

09-13-2005, 08:59 AM

Now if only some hypothetical friend could hypothetically PM the victim of this hypothetical situation a link to the hypothetical program, since, hypothetically, he probably already has the hypothetical subtitle files in the same hypothetical folder as the hyopothetic---

Crap, I'm just an idiot, okay? Someone give me step-by-step basics! :p

If you're watching any movie and want to import external subs, you can easily do it with VLC player. If the subs are broken up into *.idx and *.sub, you can use VobSub to combine them into a *.ssa file which most media players can easily use. If you're feeling really hardcore, you can use VirtualDub + Subtitler Plugin (both open source windows apps) to put the subs right into the movie's picture itself instead of having to import them while playing. Note, this is just general advice for watching a movie with subtitles. I learned this all myself just recently through a place called google.com. It throw questions at it, and it gives me sites with answers. Imagine that! </sarcasm>

Edit: Oh, and you might also want to save yourself some time by opening the subtitles in notepad first to ensure they're in english by default, as SOME videos use other languages, like Japanese. *HINT HINT* Otherwise you might have to grab english subtitles elsewhere. *HINT HINT*

Edit edit: This is my last post on this thread, just to get out this general advice to do with using subtitles. You're on your own after this. ;)

Dirty Harry

09-13-2005, 09:31 AM

Maybe you could just stop pussy footing around and be straight up and say i use bsplayer for all my video file needs, it automatically loads up .srt files and if they dont load up you can just load them through the menu.

iM GONNA SAY THAT MY WAY IS EASIER.

NoName

09-13-2005, 09:40 AM

iM GONNA SAY THAT MY WAY IS EASIER.
But... my way is the same way as yours, so how is yours easier. Just that I used Media Player classic. Media Player classic > bsplayer :p

MasterKwan

09-13-2005, 09:54 AM

You know, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, it sucked. As a tech demo it's amazing. Like a number of other big name anime releases recently though, it's basically hollow. "AppleSeed" and "GITS:Innocence" come to mind as having the same problems. They spent more time on production than on plot. It's like the "graphics versus gameplay" thing we see played out here every day. I wouldn't have minded a bit less graphically and more story and plot. The first GITS (Ghost in the Shell) is a perfect example of what it should have been, an interesting plot and characters presented with nice animation. What we have here is incredible animation and essentially no plot.

I was thinking about getting the DVD for my kids but, damnit I don't even think they'd like it.

Cutter99

09-13-2005, 12:30 PM

I hate that I had to slink out of the lurking shadows to say this - but somebody needs to:

***A FEW MINOR SPOILERS***
This movie is great. I, previously, had no intention of buying a copy when it came out - but I sure the hell will now.

In response to those who said it had "no plot": The plot of this movie is as follows- A destructive alien "life force" was introduced to the world some time in the past by a traveling planet that it had previously destroyed. This hostile element manifests itself in a number of ways, ranging from illness to outright possesion or creation of aggressive people bent on further world destruction. An extreamly motley collection of adventurers who had previously done battle against this alien infestation once again collect behind their troubled and lonely leader, and proceed to try and save the planet.

The movie works on a lot of levels, and it's great to soak up some of the more breath-taking moments. The visuals are simply stunning, the music is fun from start to finish, and the fight scenes are packed full of so much whoopass it hurts.

For anyone that ever played FF7 (and, I have to admit that I only did but once, way back in 98) there's a truckload of fun stuff for you. My personal favorite was when a particularly nasty villains phone starts ringing, after Tifa just pummled the snot out of him - his ring-tone was the victory music from the game. Clever, I thought.

Let me back up and drool a bit more about the music - it ranges from orchestral, to a simple piano solo (during Tifa's fight - delicious,) to driving rock, and all the way out to gothic choral.

The whole thing is just a fantastic roller-coaster, starring the FF7 crew, with all their wierd little quirks and bizzare world. I've never been much of an anime fan - I find that usualy when it has something worth saying, it tends to be heavy-handed or obscure about it. Advent Children was neither - and I think most people will *really* enjoy it. It's a better ride than almost *anything* we get out of the action genre these days.

-C

Zurik

09-13-2005, 12:31 PM

Which is the only one I'd even think of playing these days.

...You're stupid. It's that's simple. I could tell you that Final Fantasy games are just generic, standard J-RPG's, or that J-RPG's don't really allow people to role-play, or that they tend to have stories that are quite a bit worse than even children's fantasy novels... or I could even ask you why you mentioned "trilogy" when all that means is that there are three of something... But instead, I'm just going to say that you're stupid.

Evertime there's an arguement over FF7 these exact things come up. Everyone's heard it all before. Some people love it, and some people hate it. Great. We got it. Thanks.

By the way, why do you hate it so much when you have a link to a Mog mod? Or is it just FF7 you hate?

the good doctor

09-13-2005, 01:03 PM

excellent choice basil!

bardockkun

09-13-2005, 04:45 PM

I still don't get how FF 7 in itself has become a huge spawning franchise. I mean a cell phone game (two if you want to count FF snowboarding), a PSP game, a movie, an OVA, and a PS2 game all to add more to before and after the events of FF7. I mean i know people love FF7, but goddamn a bit of an overkill on it don't you think? I enjoyed it more when FF games are all their own stories and gave you a sense of completion when you finished it, but with FFX-2 will we keep getting sequels within sequels? I mean it was MORE than enough seeing them in Kingdom Hearts (not to mention the sequel and the GBA game). So what next now? Are we going to see even more FF overkill now if this movie or whole rebirth of FF7 goes according to plan (im sure it will since you FF fanboys just love that dead flower girl)?

Zeal

09-13-2005, 04:48 PM

-- Spoiler --

I like how Bahamut was all "Why the hell am I here? Oh well, time to blow stuff up".

resikel

09-13-2005, 04:56 PM

Easy Step-by-step way to display subtitles in Windows Media Player:

1. Search for, download, and install VobSub 2.23. I think its Freeware.
2. Make sure you have the movie file and subtitle file in the same folder. Play movie in Windows Media Player. Done.

Kefkataran

09-13-2005, 07:43 PM

Alright guys, I apologize in advance, but I have to say 'fuck the naysayers' to this one. I thought the movie was great.

First off: if you weren't a fan of FF7 there's absolutely no reason you will like this or expect to.

Second: the plot doesn't make perfect sense, but when have FF plots? It's still not completely batshit crazy, and it sets up the amazing action set pieces perfectly.

Third: Those action set pieces are fucking beautiful to watch.

And finally: it reminded me of the reason I loved FF7 in the first place -- not because the whole was amazing, but because it had *moments* that were really poignant and great. Those moments are really all it's about, and they're pulled off just as well here. One of those few cases where the parts are greater than the whole.

All that said, I'll definitely still be purchasing this when it's released.

Kamalot

09-13-2005, 08:12 PM

I also turned on Square after they merged with Enix.
That's okay cause they did the same thing on everyone else.

Square didn't make a single sequel.
Square Enix is all about the CASH IN (http://kamalot.blogspot.com/2005/09/final-fantasy-v-product-placement.html).

Xerxes

09-14-2005, 08:25 AM

I finally watched it and thought it was great... They could of added up to 15 more minutes to make it for the everyday folks. Explaining who some characters are for those who haven't played the game. Like who the hell Bahamut is, the red lion dog(mut?) Some of the fight scenes moved a little two fast but none the less every fight was amazing. And Cloud finisher wow...

Spoilers
Story not that hard to follow. Kinda...

Cloud's lonely or some shit. Along comes these three punks. They have plans for Jenova (Mother). The kids with the marks have the jenova cell but it's not enough. They want to reunite with jenova and all of the lifestream. It is then said by the main man they will use the planet to propel through space to the next world. I guess the lifestream/jenova is like galactus from what I gathered -- some sort a planet eater. :confused: Cloud has to overcome all this bs. :o

MasterKwan

09-14-2005, 10:24 AM

You know how Star Wars Episode 1 was basically a movie about a trade dispute? Mundane, kind of boring and not really larger than life. That's what I thought of this movie. No problems with the characters at all even though I've never played FF. I like the characters quite a bit even the bad guys. What I didn't like was the lame assed story. Like Star Wars, all the ingredients for a terrific movie were there. The way they mixed them together though, was just pretty bland and tasteless.

The problem with the fight scenes were, like all American fight scenes where the actors can't really fight, is that the camera was too close. If you watch a movie where the actor's had some training, Wesley Snipes for instance or even the dude from Transporter, they pull the camera's back so you can see the moves. In American movies, the hide the lack of skills with closeups and quick camera work. "Matrix" for instance, they trained the actors to fight and it shows in the camera work. That's one reason I'll watch any movie choreographed by Wu Ping. He knows how to film a fight.