Age of Conan - EvAv Guild?

[Savok]

We have an EVE corp, shit that takes all kinds of organization and cooperation and to my knowledge it works. With Age of Conan we have player cities, probably not as complex as EVE but likely enough that being in a crap guild won't help anyone, and I'm sure there will be plenty of crap guilds.

So how about it? We carve out a piece of territory for ourselves and have a bunch of giant eyes around (if that's possible).

If yes, main question then becomes what server? PvE obviously - as all reports from PvP are that the game is unplayable - but which one?

Also can I be boss so I can shout at people? I like shouting.

(keeping in mind of course the game isn't a complete disaster, which it doesn't appear to be)

[Chameleo]

pvp is unplayable?

[Savok]

Apparently everyone is murdering everyone and nothing is getting done.

Which really is what I expected, the game doesn't even have factions, you can kill anyone.

[grandepolloloco]

so as a huge wow addict .. is this game worth picking up? i've been checking out some videos and I'm definitly intrigued.

[jeffool]

People spend every spare minute murdering each other instead of doing quests? Damn, makes me want to upgrade and get this...

Seriously. I'm not even joking. To me, that sounds fun.

[bub64882]

Sounds like fun! But I gots to play PVP...The shameless ganking will ratchet itself down soon.

How about a RPVP server? Probably more mature players there...

[Devilturnip]

My server of choice is Wiccana. Already have a bunch of cool folks playing there.

[bub64882]

My server of choice is Wiccana. Already have a bunch of cool folks playing there.

Isn't that the unofficial RP-PVE server?

[Savok]

Sounds like fun! But I gots to play PVP...The shameless ganking will ratchet itself down soon.

How about a RPVP server? Probably more mature players there...
I've played enough WoW to know it won't.

Isn't that the unofficial RP-PVE server?
Best of both worlds then, no endless ganking combined with a more mature playerbase. On top of this since it's unofficial, it lacks the restrictions proper RP servers have.

[Shandor]

I'm definately going to be playing this one. Pretty much all of my friends have already settled on the Dagoth PVE server. I know Returner is going to start something on a PVP server, but I don't know which one yet.

[Phades]

My vote is for Cimmeria, I love PVP. Wars between guilds and the like. I want to be able to be out questing with a group of fellow guildies and see a rival group on the horizon that we're at war with. We run after them, kill them all, and continue questing.

[Savok]

You guys know that PvE servers still have PvP zones? The zones with the all important Keeps?

[Shandor]

You guys know that PvE servers still have PvP zones? The zones with the all important Keeps?

Yeah, which sounds good to me. At least then I'll know when I'm available to be ganked. :)

[bub64882]

You guys know that PvE servers still have PvP zones? The zones with the all important Keeps?

Yes. Open PVP in the Border Kingdoms regardless of ruleset. Which is cool, but a true PVP server (without factions) is something I just have to try.

I'm probably going Cimmeria as well, Phades. Just waiting on my new PC, due in the 30th. Here I got a shiny new Vista box to run AoC in DX10, and then they pulled the DX10 from the release!!! Inconcievable! But they are showing it off on the 29th, so maybe, just maybe, I'll have a DX10 version to install on my new box.

[Deadend]

I liked how PVP was supposed to work in Shadowbane or EVE. Where you can kill anyone, but it's a bad idea to do so.

Maybe have factions by cities where killing people from friendly cities makes the guards hate you. To me PVP is more fun when it's tense beforehand and your not sure if someone is going to try their luck and get in trouble for the sake of killing you. This is instead of just having a gank-fest.

Give me PVP with a reason to not kill someone unless I really want them dead.
Then also give me a bounty system, where I can put a price on the head of a ganker (only someone who killed you. otherwise you could be a major dick) and have bounties add up from multiple people putting a contract on you... fuck, make it a contract for all your characters on a server.

Make it where killing unguilded players is easy to get away with, but messing with someone with a guild can end up bringing that guild down on your ass.

That is the kind of PVP I want. So unless Conan has that... I'd prever PVE server.

[bub64882]

AoC was said to have a Bounty system, but who knows if it made it into launch. The devs stated that they were leaving PVP very open to start, and will ratchet it down as needed. A major difference from the SW:G devs, who always said "restrict it tightly, and open it up when it's safe to do so".

[Savok]

From what I'm hearing I expect much ratcheting.

[Scaryfaced]

But limiting PvP to specific zones is so...carebear. I want to know that if I want to kill someone, I can. If they insult my mother, I want to rip their tongues out no matter where they are. Not to have to convince them to come to a PvP zone in the hopes of a little revenge. Plus I want to raid player cities, jump enemy travelers, the works. PvE is way too controlled. Its takes the excitement out of playing in an open world and turns conflict into rounds of Counter Strike.

[Panthera]

Cimmeria for me, when the servers calm down some.

[Katslover]

As far as I know, this game wasn't even meant to be full PvP. That was just added later for all of the people who they knew would be coming from WoW. Also, Dagoth server FTW.

[Savok]

But limiting PvP to specific zones is so...carebear. I want to know that if I want to kill someone, I can. If they insult my mother, I want to rip their tongues out no matter where they are. Not to have to convince them to come to a PvP zone in the hopes of a little revenge. Plus I want to raid player cities, jump enemy travelers, the works. PvE is way too controlled. Its takes the excitement out of playing in an open world and turns conflict into rounds of Counter Strike.
You can't kill in cities, which is where they will insult your mother most likely.

And PvP is more like CS then anything, a continuous stream of AWP kiddies.

[Scaryfaced]

How could a game based on the Conan novels not have full PvP planned? I'd go far enough as to ask if they'd even read Robert Howard's work before.

[bub64882]

A full PVP server has been on the table as long as I've been following the game (2006). There were questions about whether there would be player looting or not, but full PVP was always in the works AFAIK.

[Phades]

But limiting PvP to specific zones is so...carebear. I want to know that if I want to kill someone, I can. If they insult my mother, I want to rip their tongues out no matter where they are. Not to have to convince them to come to a PvP zone in the hopes of a little revenge. Plus I want to raid player cities, jump enemy travelers, the works. PvE is way too controlled. Its takes the excitement out of playing in an open world and turns conflict into rounds of Counter Strike.

Exactly. I love the idea of ambushing a group of travelers.

Actually, now that I've read the ruleset for Cultural PVP, I'm more interested in that. Bane is a test server for this:

"The goal of this PvP server-type is to stimulate war behind the three cultures of Cimmeria, Aquilonia and Stygia. As a player on a Culture PvP server, you are shielded from lone travelers of your own culture, however you may still group with any culture and form a group and attack anyone.

The Culture PvP ruleset is an evolving ruleset that will be tweaked and polished based on player-feedback in the months to come. Although it is, at least currently, possible to make guilds across cultures, pure culture groups and guilds will be endorsed on this server, and as such players on the Culture PvP servers must prepare that the future will hold continued changes to the ruleset."

[Katslover]

A full PVP server has been on the table as long as I've been following the game (2006). There were questions about whether there would be player looting or not, but full PVP was always in the works AFAIK.

Ah, Ok. My knowledge just came from hearsay, and I see what you are saying as the truth. Although, the way the servers are set up, I think it is still obvious that they intend most people to play on a PvE server.

[Savok]

How could a game based on the Conan novels not have full PvP planned? I'd go far enough as to ask if they'd even read Robert Howard's work before.
Why do you think there's no RPPvE?

For PvE it seems to be between Wiccana and Dagoth. I'm more inclined to Wiccana myself because it's RP without the official status (which means rules).

I'm going to sleep, past 6am now.

[Panthera]

Oooh, I like the idea of the Culture PVP. It's not quite as locked-down as normal factional PVP.

[Scaryfaced]

You can't kill in cities, which is where they will insult your mother most likely.

And PvP is more like CS then anything, a continuous stream of AWP kiddies.

You don't know how much that disappoints me. Being an old Shadowbane addict, attacking other guild's cities is on a whole different level of fun. It brings alot of excitement to the table when your never sure if your safe. I can honestly say no other game has ever given me that kind of rush since.

Seeing the game's seige mechanics in action along side player cities, I thought AoC looked like a good predicessor to SB's PvP. But if its all bogged down by rules and boundaries, you might as well be playing a game of freeze tag.

[bub64882]

WTF? Where did that Culture ruleset come from? It's factions...something they have vowed to stay away from since inception!?!? Man, talk about catering to the WoW crowd...

Has WoW trained the latest generation of MMO'ers so much that we can't handle anything different? We should be rewarding inovation, not forcing compliance to "what I'm used to".

[Savok]

You don't know how much that disappoints me. Being an old Shadowbane addict, attacking other guild's cities is on a whole different level of fun. It brings alot of excitement to the table when your never sure if your safe. I can honestly say no other game has every given me that kind of rush.

Seeing the game's seige mechanics in action along side player cities, I thought AoC looked like a good predicessor to SB's PvP. But if its all bogged down by rules and boundaries, you might as well be playing a game of freeze tag.
Last I heard, only the AI sieges your city. Players fight over the Keeps in the PvP zones.

[bub64882]

Ah, Ok. My knowledge just came from hearsay, and I see what you are saying as the truth. Although, the way the servers are set up, I think it is still obvious that they intend most people to play on a PvE server.

Yeah, I think any developer today is aware that the majority of players out there are not into getting ganked into canceling their account. :)

[Scaryfaced]

And I was so looking forward to starting a giant octopus worshipping Atlantean warrior cult full of the few Cimmerians that are smart enough to understand their culture's past. You know, the strongest leads, etc. Oh well, c'est la vie.

[Deadend]

You don't know how much that disappoints me. Being an old Shadowbane addict, attacking other guild's cities is on a whole different level of fun. It brings alot of excitement to the table when your never sure if your safe. I can honestly say no other game has ever given me that kind of rush since.

Seeing the game's seige mechanics in action along side player cities, I thought AoC looked like a good predicessor to SB's PvP. But if its all bogged down by rules and boundaries, you might as well be playing a game of freeze tag.

I read it as no killing in the NPC cities. But in the player cities, yes. Just no random siegeing and ganking like Shadowbane with 4am sieges and the Zergball of death.

But I like the idea of attacking another guilds city leaving yours open to getting plundered.

[bub64882]

Last I heard, only the AI sieges your city. Players fight over the Keeps in the PvP zones.

Last I heard, the AI sieges were out....Maybe returning at a later date. Player keep sieges in the BK are still in. The media has seemed to deliberately confuse Battel Keeps w/ Guild Cities...But who knows!?!? It will be a month or so until some guild progresses enough to know what made it into launch.

I agree w/ Scary about the city ganking...I'm bummed they made em non-PVP flagged. It would have been nice if they were semi-safe, with guards everywhere, but a skilled Rogue might be able to safely gank any careless newbie who wandered down a dark alley...

[Lint of Death]

Full-on PVP against anyone reminds me of Asheron's Call's Darktide server. Hell yeah that was awesome, and they didn't even give you that whole 20 levels of respite thing.

[Deadend]

What if they have a Total PVP server that you can pay transfer onto? Just admit that there is probably no fucking way in hell you will be able to level up on it, and just let you hop in whenever for some MAAAADNESSSS.

[Felonous]

I'm on Dagoth server, my Demonoligist Asmodia is level 29. If you are on this server give me a holla.

[Illuminus]

I rolled on Bane at the start.. while the concept of racial battles is somewhat interesting unfortunatly it is flawed at this moment. Stygia for example have no warriors.. so this might be a problem in PvE. Also, if you have a different racial character n your group and someone of your own race attacks him there is no other way to help but heal him (if you have a priest).

I am going to reroll on Cimmeria, but ill keep an eye on Bane. Anyway.. if Evil Avatar creates a guild on Cimmeria id be happy to join up :).

[GrinR]

So as usual there is no consensus as to server.

*sigh*

I'm going to take a quick poll and see if I can find a common-enough server amongst the 10 threads or so...

[Shandor]

I'm on Dagoth server, my Demonoligist Asmodia is level 29. If you are on this server give me a holla.

Have you been playing straight since Saturday? :) I'll probably be hopping on there when I get my copy on Thursday.

[Returner]

I am on Dagoth and Bain. Character names are Returner

[Lind]

Any Europeans on Bori-PvE are welcome to join Dark Fellowship just send me (Freca) a tell or someone else of the recruiters. We arnt many now and we probably never will but we aim at beeing able to get our own town.

[NSFW]

I want to play this game. Too bad I can't run it. :(

[Shifter]

I'm definately going to be playing this one. Pretty much all of my friends have already settled on the Dagoth PVE server. I know Returner is going to start something on a PVP server, but I don't know which one yet.

I joined Dagoth PVE server last night. Character: Faithreaver.

[VictorVonViolence]

My assassin is on Deathwhisper, probably the most prestigious server there is in terms of guilds. let me know if you want to hook up, me name is Lazurus.

[Felonous]

Have you been playing straight since Saturday? :) I'll probably be hopping on there when I get my copy on Thursday.

Off and on. I hit level 32 today. I'm doing quests out of Cimmeria right now.

[Shandor]

Off and on. I hit level 32 today. I'm doing quests out of Cimmeria right now.

Nice. I got my copy this morning. Picked it up from GameStop since my Amazon preorder for the collectors edition got killed (they didn't get enough copies in, I guess). I figure I'll hop in after I get it installed and patched.

[iHap]

I play on Mannanan (Coolest server name ever) I hit level 20 yesterday and made a guild 'The Grey Order' If anyone wants to join me send me to "Ristela"

[Felonous]

Nice. I got my copy this morning. Picked it up from GameStop since my Amazon preorder for the collectors edition got killed (they didn't get enough copies in, I guess). I figure I'll hop in after I get it installed and patched.

Looked like a lot of EvAv'ers are on Wiccana so I started a Priest of Mitra there, he is Felonous by name and action. I hadn't run into any of the Dagoth EvAv'ers as of yet.

[Shandor]

Looked like a lot of EvAv'ers are on Wiccana so I started a Priest of Mitra there, he is Felonous by name and action. I hadn't run into any of the Dagoth EvAv'ers as of yet.

I started a character last night. Gonna stick with my EVE char names for now, so I'll have a Kerath and a Sharal. Sharal is already in. Necromancer. I'll make Kerath some kind of warrior. Not sure what type yet, though. Might make him tonight.

[Savok]

I'll be on Wiccana in 3 days... *sigh*

[Mashidar]

Posted this in another thread but you can find me on Wiccana as well.

Talnor-Barbarian