Halo 3 Celebrates Cinco de Mayo!

[pseudopseudo]

Get in while the getting's good! Joystiq reports on the festivities (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/05/02/halo-3-celebrates-cinco-de-mayo-with-double-xp/) (which go on until Tuesday):

Everyone knows that Cinco de Mayo celebrates when Mexican Spartan forces destroyed a batch of French Covenant troops in the Battle of Puebla on May 5, 1862. So it seems only fitting that the bravery and sacrifice of those armored soldiers be honored with a Halo 3 Double XP weekend (which has already kicked off) and a new playlist for Fiesta (which spawns players with random weapons) called "Cinco de Mayo."

NOTE: You have to have both the Legendary and Heroic map packs to take part in the Cinco De Mayo playlist.

Played a bunch last night. It's pretty insane... but that might've been the rum that accompanied the play session.

[Returner]

Come on beating the French big deal.

[TheKeck]

Silly Cinco de Mayo.

[OUX]

Mayo goes on sandwiches.

[Zero]

Come on beating the French big deal.

OY! The French were actually still a worthy fighting force at that point in time. And we did it with pitchforks!

/Mexican

Mmm... beer and tequila.

/American

[destoo]

I think I already posted this.

http://www.technocarotte.com/images/hola.jpg

[pseudopseudo]

I think I already posted this.
Seriously, that should be part of the front-paged news story. I think I'm a try to make it so.

[Telefrog]

What a great promotional idea. :rolleyes:

Too bad everyone is playing GTA IV.

[pseudopseudo]

What a great promotional idea. :rolleyes:

Too bad everyone is playing GTA IV.

Everyone? Not me. I don't have it.

Wow, these sour grapes taste... sour.

[JazGalaxy]

I really need to appeal to some Mexican Evil Avatar posters, but i've always wondered if that stereotypical image of a mexican with a big thick mustache and a guitar is as offensive to Mecans as something similar would be to me as a black person. It seems incredibly racist.

[reimomo]

I really need to appeal to some Mexican Evil Avatar posters, but i've always wondered if that stereotypical image of a mexican with a big thick mustache and a guitar is as offensive to Mecans as something similar would be to me as a black person. It seems incredibly racist.

Yes, Cinde De Mayo is racist towards Mexicans. All Mexican people have faces as smooth as baby's bottoms, and that straw hat depicted is actually an ancient relic, worn only by the Mayan people hundreds of years ago.

[DeathtollWRX]

Living in SoCal I would presume the same Mexicans that found that fast Warner Bros. Mouse racist would find the image of MC racist. It would be like seeing an asian guy with a foo man chu and one of those tiny hats in a kung fu suit and big buck teeth.

then again my parents were Filipino.. so I guess it would be MC driving a civic eating mangoes..

[JazGalaxy]

Yes, Cinde De Mayo is racist towards Mexicans. All Mexican people have faces as smooth as baby's bottoms, and that straw hat depicted is actually an ancient relic, worn only by the Mayan people hundreds of years ago.


I honestly can't figure out what in the world you're trying to say.

[reimomo]

I honestly can't figure out what in the world you're trying to say.

I'm saying that looking a picture of Master Chief for Cinco de Mayo wearing a sombrero, thick mustache, and holding a guitar and calling it "racist" is fucking stupid. I suppose if he wore a green four leaf clover for St. Patricks day that is racist too?

[JazGalaxy]

I'm saying that looking a picture of Master Chief for Cinco de Mayo wearing a sombrero, thick mustache, and holding a guitar and calling it "racist" is fucking stupid. I suppose if he wore a green four leaf clover for St. Patricks day that is racist too?

No, but dying your hair red, spilling half a mug of beer on yourself, and yelling "Hey look at me, I'm Irish! Fight me! FIght me!" would be.

It seems like you don't really understand what racism is.

For any other race, dressing up as a physical caraciture of them to faux celebrate a holliday would be quite racist.

I know I would be offended if MS put out a "Happy Kwanzaa!" picture of the Master Chief in black face and holding 40 oz of malt liquer.

[divinechaos]

As a hispanic guy I say dress anyone up as a Mexican, it's good publicity. I'm actually glad that the white people wanna celebrate Cinco de Mayo just as long as they don't kick all of us out.

[Micasa]

Putting on a hat and fake moustache is EXACTLY the same as black face.

[Grifter]

Are you guys fucking serious? Get the fuck over yourselves. Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason just because they exist doesn't automatically make them negative or racist.

No, but dying your hair red, spilling half a mug of beer on yourself, and yelling "Hey look at me, I'm Irish! Fight me! FIght me!" would be.

It seems like you don't really understand what racism is.

For any other race, dressing up as a physical caraciture of them to faux celebrate a holliday would be quite racist.

I know I would be offended if MS put out a "Happy Kwanzaa!" picture of the Master Chief in black face and holding 40 oz of malt liquer.

There is a huge difference between the above picture and your descriptions, there is nothing negative about a sombrero, a mustache or a fucking guitar. If you feel the above would be fitting stereotypical caricatures of your ethnicity that's your issue and no one else's rather you find it offensive or not. There is nothing I hate more than people screaming "Racism" every fucking chance they get no matter what ethnicity they are, it's obnoxious and stupid.

[mute]

I really need to appeal to some Mexican Evil Avatar posters, but i've always wondered if that stereotypical image of a mexican with a big thick mustache and a guitar is as offensive to Mecans as something similar would be to me as a black person. It seems incredibly racist.

Nah. Reminds me of my grandpa, minus the guitar. Put a bottle of booze and some bar peanuts or pool cue in his hands, there's my grandpa in a sombrero and Spartan armor.
I guess it would seem racist to me if I was particularly worried about how people perceive me in general. My friends and family know what I'm about and I don't think I'm a horrible person, the rest is pretty much out of my hands. And some small bit of faith that not everyone is retarded enough to believe all I eat is tacos or am involved in a gang is in there.
Plus, like Grifter said, how offensive is a hat, mustache and guitar as depicted?

Getting back to the playlist - I don't like fiestanaut, they don't kick people for betrayals like they do in the normal playlist so it's just a mess.

[reimomo]

No, but dying your hair red, spilling half a mug of beer on yourself, and yelling "Hey look at me, I'm Irish! Fight me! FIght me!" would be.

It seems like you don't really understand what racism is.

For any other race, dressing up as a physical caraciture of them to faux celebrate a holliday would be quite racist.

I know I would be offended if MS put out a "Happy Kwanzaa!" picture of the Master Chief in black face and holding 40 oz of malt liquer.

Get the fuck over yourself. If you find a bushy mustache and an ACTUAL FUCKING HAT THAT PEOPLE REALLY WEAR offensive maybe you should homogenize your life so that you never have to experience anything like this. Or at all. But try not to homogenize the rest of us while you're at it, hmmkay?

[XxSATANxX]

Frito Bandito???

Speedy ????

Okay so I'm telling one of "those" jokes to a pal.

Goes something like this "these two black guys are standing on a corner" when this asshat jumps in and says Don't you mean African Americans?

So I start over "these two black guys who don't know where they were born"...............

Here is the one that always got me. Orientals.....nope Asians......okay so I understand
I start asking why Asian and not Oriental? (No cheating now... do you really know?)

Sure u can zip (no pun intended) over to Wikilpoliticallycorrect.com but when I started asking no one knew why the change.

Once I actually found out it made sense. However most of the Asians I know were okay with Oriental???

[Vandenh]

Some people need to get out more. These "racist" debates are getting old.

[MAbans]

I never understood the Celebration of other country's holidays. I understand it's based on the heritage an such, being hispanic myself, but why everyone and their mother celebrate cinco de mayo but not like Slovenia's day.. Good excuse to drink I guess. Word..

[Wolvie]

Man people really need to lighten up and take this image for what it is, a joke. Ya don't see me getting pissed every time Dave Chappelle starts imitating a white dude, and makes us all sound like uppity tight-wads.

[Variable Gear]

I'm offended by everything, including the inability to change my mind.

[Fonz]

I hate to throw more fuel to the fire, but the thick mustache, sombrero and playing the guitar is like having master chief have a blackface (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface) on MLK day. It's just not settling. About 70% of Mexico doesn't even celebrate Cinco de Mayo, mostly only the regions around Mexico City.

[Chimp]

Get the fuck over yourself. If you find a bushy mustache and an ACTUAL FUCKING HAT THAT PEOPLE REALLY WEAR offensive maybe you should homogenize your life so that you never have to experience anything like this. Or at all. But try not to homogenize the rest of us while you're at it, hmmkay?

Nice strawman. It's not the fact that some people actually wear a sombrero or have a bushy mustache; rather, it's about using these things as shorthand to depict Mexicans. The guy who asked did so in a fairly non-confrontational way,more in the spirit of inquisitiveness, and there was no need for you to start cursing and coming up with arguments that don't apply to the situation at hand.

Frankly, I thought it was funny as fuck, but I'm so tired of these lame-ass defenses of stereotypes that I felt compelled to comply. I mean really - "Stereotypes exist so get over it."? Uhhh, ok, that's compelling.

[reimomo]

Nice strawman. It's not the fact that some people actually wear a sombrero or have a bushy mustache; rather, it's about using these things as shorthand to depict Mexicans. The guy who asked did so in a fairly non-confrontational way,more in the spirit of inquisitiveness, and there was no need for you to start cursing and coming up with arguments that don't apply to the situation at hand.

Frankly, I thought it was funny as fuck, but I'm so tired of these lame-ass defenses of stereotypes that I felt compelled to comply. I mean really - "Stereotypes exist so get over it."? Uhhh, ok, that's compelling.

Ok, Mr. Strawman, please explain how non-negative stereotyping to make a picture of a fictional character to represent a Mexican holiday is "racist".


PS: Fuck fuckity-fuckfuck.

[F3nyx]

No, but dying your hair red, spilling half a mug of beer on yourself, and yelling "Hey look at me, I'm Irish! Fight me! FIght me!" would be.

It seems like you don't really understand what racism is.

For any other race, dressing up as a physical caraciture of them to faux celebrate a holliday would be quite racist.

I know I would be offended if MS put out a "Happy Kwanzaa!" picture of the Master Chief in black face and holding 40 oz of malt liquer.

Way to conflate race with culture you fucking idiot.

[destoo]

Wait a second.. It's just.. Master Chief as a Mariachi (http://images.google.com/images?q=mariachi).

As far as I know, there's no negative connotation to being dressed as a mariachi. Neither in the looks, props or even what he does (plays music with his buddies). Just like dressing up as an astronaut, florist, Abraham Lincoln, Canadian Mountie, french Mime, budhist monk.. no negative connotation.
Now, if we wanted to shock, we could take your favorite afro-american hero and dress him with a grey suit with swastickas for MLK day. But this is far from having Master Chief celebrate by picking up a guitarrón and putting on a wide brimmed hat and mustache.

If you're mexican and offended, then please step up.

(no, I didn't make that picture)

[pseudopseudo]

I don't see what the big fuss is, but I'm taking the picture out of the news post.

Seems like people can't enjoy a funny picture without screaming "RACISM!".

[JazGalaxy]

Way to conflate race with culture you fucking idiot.

Do you have any idea what you're talking about?

[JazGalaxy]

Ok, Mr. Strawman, please explain how non-negative stereotyping to make a picture of a fictional character to represent a Mexican holiday is "racist".


PS: Fuck fuckity-fuckfuck.


Well you're assuming that that is to be considered "non-negative stereotyping". I would think putting the master chief in a big thick black mustache would be the equivalent of black face or pulling your eyes to they side and saying "me chinese" but that's why I asked the initial question. To see what any mexicans on the board thought. I do know, again, with me being from Texas, that this sort of stereotyping is growing to be much more of a source of anger and frustration around here due to the perception that mexicans are all 'border jumping wet back illegals".

[jakie_chon]

I don't see what the big fuss is, but I'm taking the picture out of the news post.

Seems like people can't enjoy a funny picture without screaming "RACISM!".

As a Mexican, I just want to say that it bothers me that the image was removed from the front page. It was awesome...

And to the guy claiming that 70% of the country does not celebrate the 5th. WAT?! you be wrong man! I live in Juarez Ch. away from the chilangos and I know I celebrated. Didn't get drunk but did eat a fancy meal with the fam. There was also a parade and stuff, but I couldn't go. You don't have to go around yelling stuff or get drunk to celebrate, really. And again, its mostly about giving thanks I don't have to speak french, bleh! (sorry france).

[destoo]

Well you're assuming that that is to be considered "non-negative stereotyping". I would think putting the master chief in a big thick black mustache would be the equivalent of black face or pulling your eyes to they side and saying "me chinese" but that's why I asked the initial question. To see what any mexicans on the board thought. I do know, again, with me being from Texas, that this sort of stereotyping is growing to be much more of a source of anger and frustration around here due to the perception that mexicans are all 'border jumping wet back illegals".

Ok. So you were asking a valid question, some people replied with sarcasm, and the whole discussion escalated.

I'm not assuming anything. It's a traditional costume.
If I would have portrayed master chief on his arse with a bottle of tequila, then it might have been considered abuse of a stereotype.

I'll conclude with my own fuckedy-fuckfuck finishing.

Pas moyen d'avoir du fun, tabarnaque.

[jakie_chon]

Ps. Anyone can grow a mustache, get a guitar and put a hat on, it's hardly a racial stereotype.

Pps. Where did the edit button go?

[destoo]

Ps. Anyone can grow a mustache, get a guitar and put a hat on, it's hardly a racial stereotype.

Pps. Where did the edit button go?

I need to give a counter-point for that one. Try to grow a hitler mustache. :mad:

the Chaplin mustache vs. Hitler mustache phenomenon. Two legendary, iconic men from the 20th century, one silly 'stache. Both mustaches obviously are the same in concept except that one grew on a man who brought great joy to the world through comedy and the other grew on a "mass-murdering fuckhead".

[Chimp]

Ok, Mr. Strawman, please explain how non-negative stereotyping to make a picture of a fictional character to represent a Mexican holiday is "racist".

PS: Fuck fuckity-fuckfuck.

I think the difference is that you don't see it as negative, while some people may. It's ok that you don't, but you should at least accept that others might have differing views of it. Like I said, I thought it was funny, but I can see how someone who was Mexican might see that and think "That's fucked up."

PS: I see your four fucks and raise you a shit.

[Zero]

I'm Mexican. In a different context, I would be pretty fucking pissed at that picture. Maestro Chief is pretty funny in this context, though. And yes, this get-up is the equivalent of using r's instead of l's, black face and turbans. The moment you see it, you know exactly who it's referencing. But this picture is full of lulz.