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Evil Avatar
08-20-2005, 07:54 PM
In the "Been Caught Stealing" category comes an amusing little story... This morning about 10:00 AM my Doberman, Maple Leaf, was barking her little head off like crazy. She is a big barking thing, so I didn't pay it much mind until I went to get the mail and a Phoenix Police Officer pulls up.
The officer wanted to get into my yard because someone they were chasing tried to climb over my fence, and dropped their bag of stolen goods when the Doberman comes running around the corner.
The neighbors behind us saw the whole thing, but they wouldn't climb the fence either. Heh.
Once I wrangled Maple Leaf into her choke chain, the officer got the bag (which contained a car stereo and a few other smaller items).
Maple got some extra treats for her efforts and the officer got the evidence he needed. All is well.
Drinking_Buddy
08-20-2005, 07:59 PM
Yeah it's always good to have a big scary looking family watch dog.
I myself want a Neopolitan Mastiff, for those of you not in the know, Fang from the Harry Potter movies is a Neopolitan Mastiff.
Dirty Harry
08-20-2005, 08:17 PM
If i had my scanner working i would scan in my old dog Niko. She was a pure bred german rotwierler (spelling asides). She was the runt of the litter but still a big dog, around 180 pounds. One time family member had his knee dislocated picking her up. Thats how heavy she is. Anyways she was a very vocal dog, mostly being agreesive for no reason but she also was a very good dog.
Kelegacy
08-20-2005, 08:19 PM
Good thing you dont live in Denver...those crazy fucks are killing "evil" dogs by the dumptruck full. I read a story where people were sneaking their dogs out of the county via a Harriet Tubman-esque underground railroad. Even if you own a dog like that (right now it's Pitbulls) they order you to put it down. As of early this month I think they had already destroyed well over 200 and the euthanasia was still being used in staggering numbers everyday.
Anyway, congrats Maple Leaf! She should get some sort of Beggin-Strip Medal of Honor, made out of that bacony goodess, of course.
bean19
08-20-2005, 08:20 PM
Video game tie-in:Nintendogs (http://www.gamespot.com/ds/strategy/nintendogschihuahuaandfriends/review.html?tag=boxcar_all_review_image) is released on August 22nd. . . which means none metro people can get it on Wednesday the 23rd.
The DS price drop is tommorrow too.
Nintendo's big strategy for this holiday season evidently starts that day too, as the other big game for the system, Advance Wars: Dual Strike (http://www.gamespot.com/ds/strategy/advancewarsds/review.html?q=1&tag=gs_hp_flashtop_read), also comes out this Wednesday.
But, you know, it's really all about the dogs. :)
bean19
08-20-2005, 08:22 PM
Btw, who does the Weekly Release story?
This looks like it is going to be a good week and I'm looking forward to it.
Bushido
08-20-2005, 08:39 PM
If one of those Pittbulls bit the shit out of my kids I would likely go shakespear on the owners ass, so maybe restricting violent breeds of dog isnt such a bad idea. I'm a cat guy and you dont see me with a fucking 800lbs mountain lion.
Madhatter45
08-20-2005, 08:50 PM
Woo, way to go Maple Leaf. I wish I had a big dog to be my protector. All we have here are little yappy ass dogs that would piss themselves if they saw a robber. That or try to lick him to death. :rolleyes:
Evil Avatar
08-20-2005, 08:51 PM
If one of those Pittbulls bit the shit out of my kids I would likely go shakespear on the owners ass, so maybe restricting violent breeds of dog isnt such a bad idea.
There are no violent breeds. Only violent dogs. The few Pitbulls I've had dealings with were so gentle and kind that you would think they were Guinea Pigs, not vicious man eaters.
It is all in how they are cared for. The lady I knew who was training these Pitbulls took such good care of them and trained them so well that they could have been seeing eye dogs.
You put certain breeds in the back yard and you leave them alone and they get really unsocalized... dogs are pack animals and you can't just "leave them alone" all the time or they get weird - and in some breeds weird is really violent and anti-social.
Evil Avatar
08-20-2005, 08:58 PM
Woo, way to go Maple Leaf. I wish I had a big dog to be my protector.
To be fair, Maple Leaf is a big brown and black marshmellow. I have seen her get really agitated when there was someone outside the fence who was angry (like when the neighbors are fighting), but for the most part she is just a big lover.
http://www.evilavatar.com/images/thumbs/doberman_001.jpg
Madhatter45
08-20-2005, 09:03 PM
It's good that she's a big sweet heart of a dog. But, I would still rather have a dog like yours protecting me than the little ankle biters I have. My dogs couldn't hurt a rabbit.
Dirty Harry
08-20-2005, 09:04 PM
To be fair, Maple Leaf is a big brown and black marshmellow. I have seen her get really agitated when there was someone outside the fence who was angry (like when the neighbors are fighting), but for the most part she is just a big lover.
http://www.evilavatar.com/images/thumbs/doberman_001.jpg
she sleep in the bed with you N' the misses?
Evil Avatar
08-20-2005, 09:06 PM
she sleep in the bed with you N' the misses?
She sleeps in a crate in the bathroom. I'm going to get her a big dog bed so she can start sleeping in the living room.
With my working graveyard, she doesn't get much crate time. She stays outside till around 2:00 AM, then she comes in and sleeps in my office until I go to bed at 5 or 6 AM and then she goes back outside in the morning until it gets too hot.
I used to have a Doberman. That dog was the best damn snake killer I have ever seen. You could just say, Dixie, snake and she was on it. She grew up by a stream and there were a few snake sightings now and then. I didn't purposely train her to do this, she just kinda picked it up.
Now I have a Yellow Lab and a Golden Retriever. I love them both but they are big baby dogs. The Lab will not even lay in the floor because she thinks it is beneath her. She has her own recliner that nobody else sits in.
Dirty Harry
08-20-2005, 09:19 PM
She sleeps in a crate in the bathroom. I'm going to get her a big dog bed so she can start sleeping in the living room.
With my working graveyard, she doesn't get much crate time. She stays outside till around 2:00 AM, then she comes in and sleeps in my office until I go to bed at 5 or 6 AM and then she goes back outside in the morning until it gets too hot.
I take animal ownership in the way that if you let a creature live for free in your house you should let it be in your lives. You know when you go out with kids for walks or fishing or sports or what ever you should take the dog. You are completely right its the dogs that are neglected. I think all animals have a natural barrier that makes them avoid humans but if you force them by your company they eventually stop trying to avoid you.
Quick example,
My stepsisters cats are nice cats but they behave badly, and are very antisocial for some reason. They piss everywhere even though they are trained, and its not like they were always doing this. They were going fine for a year or so then they started to piss everywhere.
My cat on the other hand is very brave so to speak in that he is not scared away by things. Not really good explaination but i geuss im saying that his natural feeling to avoid humans as much as possible as been erroded over the years being in my owner ship. He is a very well trained cat, somewhat intelligent in varied ways. He for example will meow when he enters the house everytime as i geuss a hello? i know this sounds weird. My uhhh "friend" tells me that she says my cat talks to her, i'm not sure what though but.
Food for thought that animals are more than just meat bags that eat and shit on your floor, even dogs. I think dogs are more simplified in ways than other pets but i find they are still smart. More goal orriented personality. enjoys being employed, be it playing fetch or just making your day better when you get home when it is waiting for you.
Crono
08-20-2005, 09:59 PM
Dogs > Cat... BURGLARS! AHAHAHHAHAHA!
Ohh man I am too good, buy my comedy CD.
Kelegacy
08-20-2005, 10:36 PM
There are no violent breeds. Only violent dogs. The few Pitbulls I've had dealings with were so gentle and kind that you would think they were Guinea Pigs, not vicious man eaters.
It is all in how they are cared for. The lady I knew who was training these Pitbulls took such good care of them and trained them so well that they could have been seeing eye dogs.
You put certain breeds in the back yard and you leave them alone and they get really unsocalized... dogs are pack animals and you can't just "leave them alone" all the time or they get weird - and in some breeds weird is really violent and anti-social.
I agree. It all depends on the owner, which is similar to how you raise children: you raise them in a neglected, abusive household and you'll have an angry, dangerous child, or dog in this case. Maybe some dogs are preprogrammed with instincts, but Pitbulls have got a needlessly bad rap. If one bad owner has a Pitbull and it maims a child, why put down the whole breed county-wide? It's genocide.
Raise a dog properly, you'll never have a problem. I have just one cat now, but my parents have 3 dogs. One is a huge german shepard and rotty mix, and he's the biggest pussy ever. A great, loyal dog, but because we raised him with love he has never done anything even remotely aggressive. Hell, he's more docile than my fucking cat.
Kelegacy
08-20-2005, 10:42 PM
Food for thought that animals are more than just meat bags that eat and shit on your floor, even dogs. I think dogs are more simplified in ways than other pets but i find they are still smart. More goal orriented personality. enjoys being employed, be it playing fetch or just making your day better when you get home when it is waiting for you.
It's not so much the intelligence (yes dogs are smart, but they arent as smart as pigs) but rather the unyeilding loyalty. Dogs really are man's best friend. There are few things better in life than as a young boy getting a puppy and growing up with him. The bond between a man and a dog is nigh indescribable. They are loyal and loving in a way many inter-human relationships cannot replicate.
Scull
08-20-2005, 10:48 PM
There are no violent breeds. Only violent dogs. The few Pitbulls I've had dealings with were so gentle and kind that you would think they were Guinea Pigs, not vicious man eaters.
It is all in how they are cared for. The lady I knew who was training these Pitbulls took such good care of them and trained them so well that they could have been seeing eye dogs.
You put certain breeds in the back yard and you leave them alone and they get really unsocalized... dogs are pack animals and you can't just "leave them alone" all the time or they get weird - and in some breeds weird is really violent and anti-social.
That's the truth. I have bred over 400 pitbulls and have only had 6 that were too violent or aggressive to adopt out. It really is a case of nurture vs. nature, if you raise a dog to be violent then it likely will be, but most domesitcated dogs are not more violent than other breeds, they are just more capable at carrying out the actions. I had a friend who got a dobbie and tried to make her into a guard dog, but she was about as ferocious as a wet stuffed bunny rabbit.
fndarkone
08-21-2005, 12:05 AM
I'm a vet tech and i certainly see some bad dogs. most pitbulls that i see are friendly. the ones that arent are the ones that are left out in the backyard and arent part of the family. the dobies ive seen are all brilliant, wonderful dogs but they all have great families.
now, the truth about pitbulls is that they were historically bred for fighting and genetically they have a tendency to be more vicious once they become violent. but it usually takes a lot to make them violent.
I had something similar happen with a dog I used to own. Unfortunately things didn't turn out quite as well. She woke me up at 2AM or so barking and I, being the tired annoyed person I was just then, told her to shut up and went back to bed. In the morning I went out to my car to find the hood partially open and the CD that was in my (stock) car radio was outside the car on the ground in pieces. Evidentally they didn't see the black CD holder on the black carpet in the passenger side and luckily the battery in my car at the time was covered by either a bar or my washer fluid resevoir (or both) and they didn't have the tools to remove it.
Bastards crushed one of my favorites CDs out of malice. Guess I'm lucky that's all they did.
Juicy
08-21-2005, 12:40 AM
Now I have a Yellow Lab and a Golden Retriever. I love them both but they are big baby dogs. The Lab will not even lay in the floor because she thinks it is beneath her. She has her own recliner that nobody else sits in.
My girlfriend and I have 2 dogs and 2 cats. The 2 dogs are a 9.5 year old male yellow Lab 80 lbs, and a 2.5 year old male yellow Lab 100 lbs. They are the absolute best dogs in the world. We treat the animals as if they're our children, and we get undying loyalty and companionship that humans can't provide. We can see the emotions in our dogs eyes and the way they behave. I just feel bad that I can't spend every minute with them. I shudder to think how it will affect me when they have to be put down. My girlfriend is a vet tech and sees families being emotionally destroyed when their family member (the "pet") has to go.
GrinR
08-21-2005, 02:28 AM
I think it's hilarous how dog folks are all wide-eyed and cooing when it comes to pitbulls, and explain away gruesome attacks by blaming the owners. If I had a nickle for every time I saw some jackass say, "she was the nicest dog you could ever own, I just don't know how this could have happened!" I could afford an Xbox360 with HD.
Maybe I'm taking crazy pills, but if you have an animal that's been bred for fighting / attacking doesn't that mean that they are genetically -better- at those things than animals that aren't? So yes, the dog may be 99.9999% docile but if it hits that .0001% redline it turns into a human flesh cuisinart! It's like owning a mobile time bomb. To have an animal like that in your home is just plain stupid, IMO, and I have no sympathy whatsoever for the owners who have their dogs executed after they go off and mutilate or kill someone.
And before someone stupid pipes up, no gun-control comparisons please.
TrackZero
08-21-2005, 04:41 AM
I think it's hilarous how dog folks are all wide-eyed and cooing when it comes to pitbulls, and explain away gruesome attacks by blaming the owners. If I had a nickle for every time I saw some jackass say, "she was the nicest dog you could ever own, I just don't know how this could have happened!" I could afford an Xbox360 with HD.
Maybe I'm taking crazy pills, but if you have an animal that's been bred for fighting / attacking doesn't that mean that they are genetically -better- at those things than animals that aren't? So yes, the dog may be 99.9999% docile but if it hits that .0001% redline it turns into a human flesh cuisinart! It's like owning a mobile time bomb. To have an animal like that in your home is just plain stupid, IMO, and I have no sympathy whatsoever for the owners who have their dogs executed after they go off and mutilate or kill someone.
And before someone stupid pipes up, no gun-control comparisons please.
Well the problem is you're deciding which dogs are "safe" and which ones aren't based on breed, which isn't the best way to go about stopping dog attacks.
IMHO, I'm one of those jackasses that does blame the owner and going further, like guns or a car, you should have to get a license to be able to own a dog, since it's obvious there's a large segment of assholes out there who can't treat them right. I've never heard of a dog attack before where I didn't find out the owner was some tool who neglected/mistreated it.
Evil Avatar
08-21-2005, 05:25 AM
Maybe I'm taking crazy pills, but if you have an animal that's been bred for fighting / attacking doesn't that mean that they are genetically -better- at those things than animals that aren't? So yes, the dog may be 99.9999% docile but if it hits that .0001% redline it turns into a human flesh cuisinart! It's like owning a mobile time bomb. To have an animal like that in your home is just plain stupid, IMO, and I have no sympathy whatsoever for the owners who have their dogs executed after they go off and mutilate or kill someone.
You really are a shining monument to cluelessness, aren't you?
Lagrius
08-21-2005, 06:42 AM
Are you originally from Canada, EA?
XxSATANxX
08-21-2005, 08:00 AM
Here I thought this was gonna be on of those RIAA threads....Nice dog BTW!
I remember back when I was a kid dobermans were the big evil scary dog of the day. Then it was rotweillers for a while and now its pit bulls. *shrug*
fndarkone
08-21-2005, 11:08 AM
I think it's hilarous how dog folks are all wide-eyed and cooing when it comes to pitbulls, and explain away gruesome attacks by blaming the owners. If I had a nickle for every time I saw some jackass say, "she was the nicest dog you could ever own, I just don't know how this could have happened!" I could afford an Xbox360 with HD.
Maybe I'm taking crazy pills, but if you have an animal that's been bred for fighting / attacking doesn't that mean that they are genetically -better- at those things than animals that aren't? So yes, the dog may be 99.9999% docile but if it hits that .0001% redline it turns into a human flesh cuisinart! It's like owning a mobile time bomb. To have an animal like that in your home is just plain stupid, IMO, and I have no sympathy whatsoever for the owners who have their dogs executed after they go off and mutilate or kill someone.
And before someone stupid pipes up, no gun-control comparisons please. I'm sorry, but your statement is patently ignorant and not based on any facts whatsoever.
Current epidemiological studies from the CDC show that pitbulls do not bite humans any more than other dogs. Pitbulls and rotweillers do cause more fatal injuries than other dogs, though. However, it is impossible to get an accurate accounting because there is no breed population data in the US at this time. That means that we cant extrapolate a risk factor for pitbulls.
Now, as a vet tech in arkansas i see a lot of pitbulls through my clinic. the joke here is that you go to the zoo to see the pitbull and feral cat exibits. and i cant think of a single one that is agressive or unmanageable even when we are sticking it with needles and fecal loops. but we are in a higherclass neighborhood and all of them tend to be part of the family and not agressive.
also, you should look up tethering laws and the reason for their enactment. 80% of all dog attacks are by dogs who are tethered.
WangoTango
08-21-2005, 12:06 PM
"She is a big barking thing, so I didn't pay it much mind"
What a wonderful neighbor you must be.
GrinR
08-21-2005, 01:04 PM
You really are a shining monument to cluelessness, aren't you?
Wait, that's it? You're getting soft.
GrinR
08-21-2005, 01:33 PM
Current epidemiological studies from the CDC show that pitbulls do not bite humans any more than other dogs. Pitbulls and rotweillers do cause more fatal injuries than other dogs, though. However, it is impossible to get an accurate accounting because there is no breed population data in the US at this time. That means that we cant extrapolate a risk factor for pitbulls.
You're all over the map on this. You say they cause more fatal injuries, but that your statement is inaccurate because there isn't enough data. Fair enough, I guess you mean in your personal experience they cause more fatal injuries. This was most of my point. If you have a dog that can attack (like any other dog) and only just bite some or do minor injury, there is no problem. If you have a dog who can easily kill or severely maim, IF it goes off that is a much much larger threat!
All I'm saying is, genetically bred attack dogs require special attention and treatment, otherwise you get what you deserve.
ElectricMonk
08-21-2005, 02:28 PM
There are no violent breeds. Only violent dogs. The few Pitbulls I've had dealings with were so gentle and kind that you would think they were Guinea Pigs, not vicious man eaters.
not quite true. many breeds don't like children. and violent dogs are usually that way because of retarded owners. and, if you haven't noticed, pretty much everybody else is retarded.
Evil Avatar
08-21-2005, 05:13 PM
"She is a big barking thing, so I didn't pay it much mind"
What a wonderful neighbor you must be.
I kind of figure if you are dumb enough to stand around outside my fence all day, you deserve to be barked at. It certainly keeps the teenagers and drunks (which are both the same most weekends) away.
Evil Avatar
08-21-2005, 08:22 PM
and, if you haven't noticed, pretty much everybody else is retarded.
I have noticed that and I keep waiting for someone to elect me "King of the World", but I'm not sure I want to be the ruler of the Planet of the Dumbed.
Murmillo
08-21-2005, 08:39 PM
haa haa, poor GameTab, some poor soul is still bitching about Evil Avatars news feeds being in the top 10, and that the TOP news post for the day was this thread, about a dog, on a gaming forum.. oh the poor humanity!.
Murmillo
08-21-2005, 08:47 PM
well, its true that pit bulls are no more violent then any other breed, if given a decent upbringing. Its just they are just more prone to fighting if treated baddly, which does happen often due to the bad rap they get as a "fighting" dog. Its a catch 22 for them. They arn't normally aggressive, but when they are, look out. As for thier bites, if they do bite, are sadly more aggressive.
You should still watch kids around pit bulls all the time - even the nice ones.
Dirty Harry
08-21-2005, 09:49 PM
I have noticed that and I keep waiting for someone to elect me "King of the World", but I'm not sure I want to be the ruler of the Planet of the Dumbed.
would you be an evil ruler or a good ruler, because as we all know,
"now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb"
Evil Avatar
08-21-2005, 11:09 PM
haa haa, poor GameTab, some poor soul is still bitching about Evil Avatars news feeds being in the top 10, and that the TOP news post for the day was this thread, about a dog, on a gaming forum.. oh the poor humanity!.
They should look at it this way... it is better than the pr0n links (all from a certain "gaming blog") that you usually find in the Top 10.
I also don't remember forcing anyone to click on the link. If people were curious about little Maple Leaf's adventure (and they should know the post was about a dog, Gametab now supports the mouse-over summaries from EvAv.com) then it deserves to be in the Top 10.
wyattburp
08-22-2005, 08:14 AM
I think it's hilarous how dog folks are all wide-eyed and cooing when it comes to pitbulls, and explain away gruesome attacks by blaming the owners. If I had a nickle for every time I saw some jackass say, "she was the nicest dog you could ever own, I just don't know how this could have happened!" I could afford an Xbox360 with HD.
Maybe I'm taking crazy pills, but if you have an animal that's been bred for fighting / attacking doesn't that mean that they are genetically -better- at those things than animals that aren't? So yes, the dog may be 99.9999% docile but if it hits that .0001% redline it turns into a human flesh cuisinart! It's like owning a mobile time bomb. To have an animal like that in your home is just plain stupid, IMO, and I have no sympathy whatsoever for the owners who have their dogs executed after they go off and mutilate or kill someone.
And before someone stupid pipes up, no gun-control comparisons please.
Wow...I knew all you anti-pitbull people were ignorant, but I think you just raised (or lowered...) the bar! I really have no argument for such a baseless and senseless post. Keep up the stupidity, it really seems like it's serving you well!
Kelegacy
08-22-2005, 08:20 AM
Wow...I knew all you anti-pitbull people were ignorant, but I think you just raised (or lowered...) the bar! I really have no argument for such a baseless and senseless post. Keep up the stupidity, it really seems like it's serving you well!
Actually you see alot of Ignorance these days because it's currently on sale at Wal-Mart--a case of 20 Irrational and Obtuse Ideas for $ 2.99
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