Overlord Confirmed For PS3

[Gorvi]

CVG (http://www.n4g.com/ClickOut.aspx?ObjID=115465) is reporting that last year's 360 cult favorite will be heading to the PS3 this summer, according to Codemasters.
CVG can confirm that the Overlord series, a Pikmin-influenced management adventure previously only on 360 and PC, will be making its debut on PS3 this summer with Overlord: Raising Hell.

Raising Hell will feature the full Overlord game that released on 360 last year, as well as all of the download content that has been released to date, all on one Blu-ray disc.
The demo was quite a bit of fun, but I never got around to playing the full game. Still, it's good to see more people will get to experience this unique game.

[fitbabits]

Link, Gorvi - don't forget the link! :)

[CaptStu]

Link, Gorvi - don't forget the link! :)

Demote him. :)

[Gorvi]

Link, Gorvi - don't forget the link! :)
It's been there all along! All along, I say! ;)

[fitbabits]

Demote him. :)

If it happens again, I will! To paraphrase Uncle Ben - 'with great power comes great responsibility'. :)

[jeffbax]

hooray! this makes me so happy. I missed overlord.

[TheFlyingOrc]

A bit late, but there's no reason anyone should object to getting Pikmin 3: Evil Pikmin ;)

[Gorvi]

A bit late, but there's no reason anyone should object to getting Pikmin 3: Evil Pikmin ;)
Is that actually what Pikimin plays like? I never got around to that one either. :(

[TheFlyingOrc]

Is that actually what Pikimin plays like? I never got around to that one either. :(
Overlord stole a LOT of ideas from Pikmin - there is no question that without Pikmin, Overlord would never have been made.

Find some time someday to play Pikmin 1 - the longest it can possibly take is 10 hours.

[Gorvi]

Overlord stole a LOT of ideas from Pikmin - there is no question that without Pikmin, Overlord would never have been made.

Find some time someday to play Pikmin 1 - the longest it can possibly take is 10 hours.
I'll have to do that. I can probably grab it for next to nothing now, anyway (a big plus). Any reason you'd recommend P1 over P2?

[Yeti2005]

Good deal for PS3 owners. Overlord is a fun game.

[TheFlyingOrc]

I'll have to do that. I can probably grab it for next to nothing now, anyway (a big plus). Any reason you'd recommend P1 over P2?
I was only considering that I know you're usually busy with games, and the first one is shorter. The second one has a lot of tendencies that are less annoying, actually.

[Rirath]

Actually just played through Overlord the other day...
First impressions (http://www.twiddlegeek.com/overlord-first-impressions/), finished (http://www.twiddlegeek.com/overlord-finished/), and a short review (http://www.twiddlegeek.com/overlord-review/).

It was fun, but basically one of those "Good, not great" titles. Gamefly it.

[Citizen Philip]

I bought it, got bored once I got to the Desert. I don't think replaying the levels over and over or running into the dungeon over and over to get really good gear is fun.

They also liberally borrowed from Dungeon Keeper as well.

Good, not great.

[Tel Prydain]

This was one of the most under-rated Xbox games out there. Glad to see it will get a 2nd chance.

[jeffbax]

Lets hope they give it the DiRT treatment and iron out the framerate issues.

[silv]

PS3 is the Mac of the Console world.

[Gorvi]

PS3 is the Mac of the Console world.
And you're the troll of this thread! Congrats!

[bapenguin]

I never finished this, I should do that.

[jeffbax]

PS3 is the Mac of the Console world.

The best damn computing platform ever? I didn't think the PS3 was quite there yet, honestly.

[fitbabits]

And you're the troll of this thread! Congrats!

silv's cool. I think he/she is being sarcastic.

[silv]

Was just a joke! I'm writing this on a Mac as we speak. The thought just popped in my head and I thought it was too funny not to post.

[silv]

I should add if I could find a PS3 with BC for a reasonable price it would be mine. Sadly they seem to be moving away from what I want in a PS3.

[Yeti2005]

I should add if I could find a PS3 with BC for a reasonable price it would be mine. Sadly they seem to be moving away from what I want in a PS3.

You might be able to find a 80GB for cheap soon since it looks like they're getting rid of it and possibly replacing it with a 120GB.

[silv]

They aren't on Best Buy's online site anymore, and when I went into the store they weren't offering any discount on the ones they had there.

Has anyone seen stores actually marking down the 80's? I'm heading out tonight anyway to pick up Scene It.

[Disgustipated]

The best damn computing platform ever? I didn't think the PS3 was quite there yet, honestly.

Didn't know the best computing platform only has 10% the amount of applications that the dominant one does.

[jeffbax]

Didn't know the best computing platform only has 10% the amount of applications that the dominant one does.
Perhaps, but the apps available are generally 110% better than the alternatives ;)

I'd rather have a few utterly amazing apps for any given task than a billion mediocre ones :p

Lets not start this though.

[silv]

Didn't know the best computing platform only has 10% the amount of applications that the dominant one does.

I think if you actually tried a Mac you would find that the applications you need are there, or suitable alternatives exist. Games are an obvious weak point, but I keep an XP partition around to play them.

[bean19]

Overlord was a really fun game. I don't think there are that many PS3 owners that don't also already own a 360 and that would also be interested in this game, so I think they may be trying to build up the IP for a sequel (which would be very welcome). Congrats to those few people who this news will impact.

[The Ligand]

Overlord was a really fun game. I don't think there are that many PS3 owners that don't also already own a 360 and that would also be interested in this game, so I think they may be trying to build up the IP for a sequel (which would be very welcome). Congrats to those few people who this news will impact.

I wasn't under the impression that most owners of ps3s were picking them up as "second consoles." I'm sure there are many for whom that is true, but is there something specific which makes you think that the phenomenon is widespread? I understand that you are probably talking about ps3/non-360 owners who are ALSO interested in Overlord, but I thought the game was pretty widely appreciated and would (therefore) be noticed by quite a few non-360-owning ps3-owners. Why the feeling that this announcement impacts so few people?

[Gorvi]

Was just a joke! I'm writing this on a Mac as we speak. The thought just popped in my head and I thought it was too funny not to post.
My apologies then, I spoke too soon!

[jeffbax]

I wasn't under the impression that most owners of ps3s were picking them up as "second consoles." I'm sure there are many for whom that is true, but is there something specific which makes you think that the phenomenon is widespread? I understand that you are probably talking about ps3/non-360 owners who are ALSO interested in Overlord, but I thought the game was pretty widely appreciated and would (therefore) be noticed by quite a few non-360-owning ps3-owners. Why the feeling that this announcement impacts so few people?
Evil Avatar generally assumes that everyone has a Microsoft DeathBox, apparently... although I guess its somewhat true with the amount of people who had one in the past... ;)

[Magnanimous Gnome]

I'll have to do that. I can probably grab it for next to nothing now, anyway (a big plus). Any reason you'd recommend P1 over P2?

I'd recommend Pikmin 2 if you are only going to play one or the other. It's better than the first in every way.


I had some fun with the Overlord demo, and I'll be picking it up on the Xbox 360 eventually. I was hoping that Triumph (the developer) would make another Age of Wonders title after Overlord, but it seems that they are making Overlord 2 instead. That's what some digging around on their site led me to believe.

[Kem0sabe]

Been thinking bout buying a PS3, have played on my brothers so far. And it woould be a good chance to play overlord, if the framerate issues that i had with the 360 version are fixed.

Theres a bundle with a 40g PS3, Uncharted and Ratchet, for 499 euros. Doesnt look like a bad deal?

[asimonk]

I wasn't under the impression that most owners of ps3s were picking them up as "second consoles." I'm sure there are many for whom that is true, but is there something specific which makes you think that the phenomenon is widespread? I understand that you are probably talking about ps3/non-360 owners who are ALSO interested in Overlord, but I thought the game was pretty widely appreciated and would (therefore) be noticed by quite a few non-360-owning ps3-owners. Why the feeling that this announcement impacts so few people?

Its the same portion roughly as the people who game solely on a Mac.

[Gorvi]

Its the same portion roughly as the people who game solely on a Mac.
No, it's not. Nice try though.

[bean19]

I wasn't under the impression that most owners of ps3s were picking them up as "second consoles." I'm sure there are many for whom that is true, but is there something specific which makes you think that the phenomenon is widespread? I understand that you are probably talking about ps3/non-360 owners who are ALSO interested in Overlord, but I thought the game was pretty widely appreciated and would (therefore) be noticed by quite a few non-360-owning ps3-owners. Why the feeling that this announcement impacts so few people?

The results of a friend's paper that I helped him research. He did the statistics, but we had a semi-random sampling of 500 people (5 of us were asked to get results from random people in game stores or at the mall so thus the "semi" - obviously the people were more interested in gaming and obviously this is not a nation-wide sampling but Amarillo is pretty "middle America" so that might not cause as much aberration as you might think. This worked for what the guy wanted as we threw away the "I don't own any consoles" answers).

I have the direct results here, so I'll just give them to you (out of 500 that said they do have a console). The results are aimed at finding out how many people had next-gen systems and which ones they had, so all the "Wii Only", "PS3 only", and "360 only" answers also had a last-gen system. That information is also interesting IMO as it tracks how brand faithful people are (or aren't), but that isn't what we are talking about here. This was performed in October 2007.

Last-Gen Only (mainly PS2-only but many had all 3): 237, 47.4%
Wii Only: 54, 10.8%
PS3 Only: 12, 2.4%
360 Only: 104, 20.8%
360 & Wii: 67, 13.4%
PS3 & Wii: 2, 0.4%
PS3 & 360: 8, 1.6%
All 3: 16, 3.2%

So this poll shows that only 2.8% of console owners own a PS3, but do not own a 360. In fact, if you own a PS3, then you are twice as likely to also own a 360 or all 3 consoles as 4.8% fall into these categories.

The number of PS3-only owners has probably risen from when this survey was taken (October 2007) due to holiday sales and the PS3's less ridiculous price. However, it is still just half a sliver of the smallest console market (PS3) out there.

There are a few reasons to do this though. They increase the value of the IP so that more people will buy a sequel, and they might learn how to code for the PS3 which would possibly lower their development time and costs for developing a sequel.

[bean19]

Evil Avatar generally assumes that everyone has a Microsoft DeathBox, apparently... although I guess its somewhat true with the amount of people who had one in the past... ;)

As you can see from my other post, I'm not making an assumption. That wasn't fanboyism. Also, I'm not the mouthpiece for Evil Avatar. I am an individual and not the mouth of the Evil Avatar collective.

However, finding every opportunity to bash the 360 for breaking down often is extremely fanboyish and ironic given your statement that Evil Avatar is biased. I think that maybe everyone on this site has bashed the 360 for breaking down a lot (though we don't fanboyishly bring it up in every thread like some fucktards I know). Microsoft is definitely paying the price for their poor engineering by fixing and shipping the broken 360's for free as well as by seeing less than stellar sales despite being the console with a huge game library advantage over the competition. In every other console generation, the game library decided the winner and yet the 360 is in second place in console's sold (though it is first in games sold).

Provide more interesting posts or stop posting jeffbax.

[Gorvi]

Bean, I'm not trying to say it has no merit, but you do realize that's very flimsy "proof", right?

[jeffbax]

As you can see from my other post, I'm not making an assumption. That wasn't fanboyism. Also, I'm not the mouthpiece for Evil Avatar. I am an individual and not the mouth of the Evil Avatar collective.

However, finding every opportunity to bash the 360 for breaking down often is extremely fanboyish and ironic given your statement that Evil Avatar is biased. I think that maybe everyone on this site has bashed the 360 for breaking down a lot (though we don't fanboyishly bring it up in every thread like some fucktards I know). Microsoft is definitely paying the price for their poor engineering by fixing and shipping the broken 360's for free as well as by seeing less than stellar sales despite being the console with a huge game library advantage over the competition. In every other console generation, the game library decided the winner and yet the 360 is in second place in console's sold (though it is first in games sold).

Provide more interesting posts or stop posting jeffbax.
I wasn't commenting on the 360 at all, rather EvAv's constant need to downplay anything PS3. Its kind of a recurring theme, and annoying to have to deal with it in every thread.

Similarly, aside from roughly 2-3 threads recently, 360's reliability is a very small percentage of my posts, and I will continue to post what I feel like. Everyone else does.

[The Ligand]

The results of a friend's paper that I helped him research. He did the statistics, but we had a semi-random sampling of 500 people (5 of us were asked to get results from random people in game stores or at the mall so thus the "semi" - obviously the people were more interested in gaming and obviously this is not a nation-wide sampling but Amarillo is pretty "middle America" so that might not cause as much aberration as you might think. This worked for what the guy wanted as we threw away the "I don't own any consoles" answers).

I have the direct results here, so I'll just give them to you (out of 500 that said they do have a console). The results are aimed at finding out how many people had next-gen systems and which ones they had, so all the "Wii Only", "PS3 only", and "360 only" answers also had a last-gen system. That information is also interesting IMO as it tracks how brand faithful people are (or aren't), but that isn't what we are talking about here. This was performed in October 2007.

Last-Gen Only (mainly PS2-only but many had all 3): 237, 47.4%
Wii Only: 54, 10.8%
PS3 Only: 12, 2.4%
360 Only: 104, 20.8%
360 & Wii: 67, 13.4%
PS3 & Wii: 2, 0.4%
PS3 & 360: 8, 1.6%
All 3: 16, 3.2%

So this poll shows that only 2.8% of console owners own a PS3, but do not own a 360. In fact, if you own a PS3, then you are twice as likely to also own a 360 or all 3 consoles as 4.8% fall into these categories.

The number of PS3-only owners has probably risen from when this survey was taken (October 2007) due to holiday sales and the PS3's less ridiculous price. However, it is still just half a sliver of the smallest console market (PS3) out there.

There are a few reasons to do this though. They increase the value of the IP so that more people will buy a sequel, and they might learn how to code for the PS3 which would possibly lower their development time and costs for developing a sequel.

Thank you for the numbers. That's an interesting study, but I would tend to agree with Gorvi that it's not entirely conclusive (for a few reasons). It's informative, though, and I'm glad you were able to provide numbers to back up your assertion that the game's release would affect very few :)

[bean19]

Bean, I'm not trying to say it has no merit, but you do realize that's very flimsy "proof", right?

It isn't flimsy proof. It is probably off up or down by 2 or 3% as you generally want 1000 or more to get a random-sampling that is within 1%, but even if you fudged them in the favor of people who own a PS3 but not also a 360, it would be a marginal group. . . in the United States.

Something I didn't mention, and it was a complete oversight (Sorry!) is that those numbers are just for the U.S. While you are twice as likely to find a PS3 owner that also owns a 360 in the U.S. than one that only owns a PS3 or a PS3 and a Wii, I bet that you are ten times (or more) likely to find 360 owners that also own a PS3 than 360 owners that only own a 360 or a Wii60 in Japan.

jeffbax - I'm sorry I was so rude in my reply. I am honestly interested in a conversation about why a company would choose to port a game that has been out for ages on the 360 to the PS3's smaller and largely overlapped userbase. This wasn't an attack on the PS3, and it was entirely on topic. I'm tired of people saying that these conversations are PS3-bashing. Yes, the PS3 is in third place and the PS3 only audience in next-gen is extremely small. Discussing those facts as part of this conversation is not me harping on them. They are important facts for this discussion that lead to me coming up with other reasons why they might do it beyond the obvious one of increased sales (which might not be good - again, due to the relatively small audience).

I think that it is interesting that a developer might choose to go multiplatform to increase the value of their IP for a sequel, as part of R&D on how to port future projects to the PS3, and to sell copies in Japan.

When you construed this point as fanboyism, I was extremely annoyed because I often feel that I can't use facts about the PS3 that are not complimentary without being cast as a Microsoft fanboy and hearing accusations that the entire site is Microsoft-biased. It's getting really annoying that interesting discussions are often polluted with such fanboyish messages.

[Steele Johnson]

Actually just played through Overlord the other day...
First impressions (http://www.twiddlegeek.com/overlord-first-impressions/), finished (http://www.twiddlegeek.com/overlord-finished/), and a short review (http://www.twiddlegeek.com/overlord-review/).

It was fun, but basically one of those "Good, not great" titles. Gamefly it.

I play a lot of "good" games. Games don't have to be "great" to be fun. :D

[asimonk]

Bean, I'm not trying to say it has no merit, but you do realize that's very flimsy "proof", right?

I wouldn't say flimsy. Hell, most political polls are done on a sample size of a few thousand. Granted they aren't always even close to reality, see New Hampshire 2008. I'd say 500 people willing to answer a gaming survey is fairly representative of the roughly 40 (guess) million American console owners compared to using 2 or 3 thousand to represent the thoughts of hundreds of million Americans.

Edit: Bean is fast.

Edit2: I pulled the number of 40 million console owners purely out of my ass. I simply added up the off the top of my head numbers of "next gen" consoles sold, probably grossly inflated. I blame beer.

[Gorvi]

The "survey" is flawed for a number of reasons, but I don't have the time, or the will, to get into a debate as to why. If you can't see it, you probably won't no matter what is said.

[Flatpicker]

Overlord was a fun game with a couple of issues.
Or really One big issue. no in game map.
Add that and you can add 5-10 points to the scores out there.

[Gorvi]

Overlord was a fun game with a couple of issues.
Or really One big issue. no in game map.
Add that and you can add 5-10 points to the scores out there.
Then this should be good news (http://www.gamingbits.com/content/view/3553/2/):
In addition to offering a complete collection of Overlord content, including online co-operative pillaging and head-to-head slaughter, the PLAYSTATION 3 system edition will also be enhanced with detailed visuals, a top-spec audio system with 7.1 surround sound and gameplay refinements, such as the addition of an on-screen mini-map.

[Flatpicker]

I'll be buying the game again just for that.

[TheFlyingOrc]

Bean, I'm not trying to say it has no merit, but you do realize that's very flimsy "proof", right?
He did say "semi" random. It's not proof, but it IS evidence. 500 people is a decent sample size.

[TheFlyingOrc]

Then this should be good news (http://www.gamingbits.com/content/view/3553/2/):

That seriously makes the game a lot better. The lack of map in the original release boggles the mind.

[Gorvi]

He did say "semi" random. It's not proof, but it IS evidence. 500 people is a decent sample size.
I'd just never expect to be taken seriously when I post results from a survey I'm claiming to have done myself, especially when trying to use them as fact to support an opinion that can't be proven or disproven easily. Nothing against Bean, I'm just saying.

[bean19]

The "survey" is flawed for a number of reasons, but I don't have the time, or the will, to get into a debate as to why. If you can't see it, you probably won't no matter what is said.

You can't contest the point without supporting your opposition and expect that to be sufficient. I have pointed out some of the problems with that poll; sampling size causes a relatively high uncertainty of 2-3% and the sampling is from one middle-American area (Amarillo, TX). However, if you still fudged them in the favor of the PS3, it would be a very small group. You're not supporting your position not because you find it tiresome to do so, but because you are not capable of supporting it.

The statement of fact (not opinion as you put it) those numbers support is not one that is hard to believe either. The survey indicates that approximately two-thirds (66%) of PS3 owners are also 360 owners in the U.S. so porting a game released on the 360 to that other 33% of PS3 owners (only ~1.35 million people) would necessitate other reasons for doing the port beyond making money unless they feel it could sell well in Japan. However, this MAY indicate that they are learning PS3 technology and trying to further their IP recognition as steps towards making a sequel (that I would welcome. Overlord was great!)

[Gorvi]

You can't contest the point without supporting your opposition and expect that to be sufficient. I have pointed out some of the problems with that poll; sampling causes a relatively high uncertainty of 2-3% and the sampling is from one middle-American area. However, if you still fudged them in the favor of the PS3, it would be a very small group. You're not supporting your position not because you find it tiresome to do so, but because you are not capable of supporting it.
No, I wasn't supporting it because I didn't want to come off as insulting. You've shown yourself to have a pretty obvious bias around here (like many of us), so I'm not sure why you'd expect this "survey" not to be questioned. But there are factors that you could look at to call this into question. Was there a particular outcome that was desired and did that effect the way those conducting the survey went about collecting data? Is there even a survey at all?

You can't just throw out these results with nothing to back them up and expect people to just accept them at face value. This is the internet, we question everything.

[asimonk]

You can't just throw out these results with nothing to back them up and expect people to just accept them at face value. This is the internet, we question everything.

Yet you're willing to completely willing to discredit all of the data that he collected because it runs contrary to your very obvious bias. Had it run in favor, you would be the first to champion it.

[Gorvi]

Yet you're willing to completely willing to discredit all of the data that he collected because it runs contrary to your very obvious bias. Had it run in favor, you would be the first to champion it.
Yeah, that's it. Got me. :rolleyes:

Ask yourself this: does the reason you think I have for questioning it take away the validity of the results being questioned?

[asimonk]

There's a difference between questioning and outright dismissing!

[jeffbax]

I don't really see the point in such a survey this early in a systems life. The price was high, clearly only the majority of purchases were by game enthusiasts... not surprisingly the same people who buy all the other machines too..

Still, last gen there were at least 50 million PS2 owners who did not have an Xbox or a GameCube... and probably a lot more than that.

[bean19]

Yeah, that's it. Got me. :rolleyes:

Ask yourself this: does the reason you think I have for questioning it take away the validity of the results being questioned?

1. The results did not surprise us. This isn't information that is hard to believe from other data we have on the sale of systems in the U.S.

2. I admitted the problems the survey had, and there were several (we did the survey in October 2007, it was done in Amarillo and our "sampling" was among people shopping at game stores -which may have led to people having higher incomes and interest - thus more people who own next-gen systems); however

3. This wasn't about bashing the PS3 for having poor unique market share in the U.S. The point was to use this obvious information to go further than this point to discuss why they might choose to port an old game to the PS3.

[Gorvi]

1. The results did not surprise us. This isn't information that is hard to believe from other data we have on the sale of systems in the U.S.

2. I admitted the problems the survey had, and there were several (we did the survey in October 2007, it was done in Amarillo and our "sampling" was among people shopping at game stores -which may have led to people having higher incomes and interest - thus more people who own next-gen systems); however

3. This wasn't about bashing the PS3 for having poor unique market share in the U.S. The point was to use this obvious information to go further than this point to discuss why they might choose to port an old game to the PS3.
Bean, I really didn't mean that as an attack against you, just to say that it's tough to take those at face value and as fact given the circumstances. I wouldn't expect you to put much weight in what I posted if I were to post something similar.

[silv]

I only know 1 person who owns a PS3, and just a PS3.

[jeffbax]

I know 4 people who just own a PS3 (and me.. when the Ceramic SKU is out)

2 who have 360 + Wii (and PS2...)
8 Who just have 360

I don't think it matters yet though... or at all really in the long run.

[bean19]

I know 4 people who just own a PS3 (and me.. when the Ceramic SKU is out)

2 who have 360 + Wii (and PS2...)
8 Who just have 360

I don't think it matters yet though... or at all really in the long run.

I think a poll here (if not messed up by liars - on all sides) would show an even smaller unique ownership for EVERY group. That's simply because we have a ton of gaming enthusiasts.

If MGS doesn't announce a port to the 360 by the end of the year, and White Knight Story and FF XIII actually make it out in the U.S. this year, then I'll definitely own a PS3 by the end of the year.

[MrSatan]

I love this game, it was great fun on PC.

[MrSatan]

The best damn computing platform ever? I didn't think the PS3 was quite there yet, honestly. Well we know where you stand in the Mac and PC war.

You have some balls to call the mac the best computing platform ever.

[jeffbax]

Well we know where you stand in the Mac and PC war.

You have some balls to call the mac the best computing platform ever.
Not really. I didn't call it a gaming platform. And I actually own one and spent a significant length of my life using PCs ;)

But thats not for this topic.