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Liquidize105
08-14-2005, 01:06 PM
Geist has been reviewed 3 times so far, twice by questionable sources and once by a semi-credible source (http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=605325).
The user feedback seems to be more positive than the press ratings.
DevDict
08-14-2005, 01:13 PM
To be honest, I believe the premise is rather interesting. I don't own a Gamecube, but for once I see a GC title I am interested in.
EvilBob46
08-14-2005, 01:37 PM
Great concept from what I hear, but lacks polish.
kizke
08-14-2005, 01:41 PM
Looks like a good rental to me.
Kamalot
08-14-2005, 01:53 PM
I'd rather have a fun game with fresh and original ideas instead of another generic FPS with lots of polish and presentation.
DevDict
08-14-2005, 02:07 PM
^ Ditto.
That and gaming journalism sucks in general.
Draft
08-14-2005, 02:19 PM
EGM and Play are "questionable?"
sTubbs
08-14-2005, 02:28 PM
EGM and Play are "questionable?"
No shit. Both of those mags beat the fuck out of IGN, although that really is not saying much. I think the poster highlighted the IGN review simply because it is the highest, even though IGN is known for giving notoriously high reviews in relation to other sources.
Steamtron
08-14-2005, 02:42 PM
Im really looking forward to giving this game a try. The sketchy controls might put a damper on things, but it is nice to see a different take on the console fps
CapnBob
08-14-2005, 02:50 PM
How can the user response be anything yet, positive or negative? I was under the impression that it wasn't available to the public yet, which kind of deprives the word "user" of any real meaning.
Worldcrafter
08-14-2005, 02:51 PM
Sounds like it could be fun to play. I wouldn't mind buying it, at the very least, to support a developer trying something new.
bean19
08-14-2005, 03:06 PM
I have to say that I like Gamespot's reviews. Maybe it is because they seem to be people that "play everything" like I do and thus tend to be much more critical. This is with the exception of Alex Nevarro who tends to hate everything. I really hate it when he does a review because then I have to run over to gamerankings to see if his cry of doom is accurate.
Btw, IGN is the site that got a heap of bad press for changing the reviewer's score for Donkey Konga 2 right?
Draft
08-14-2005, 03:12 PM
Think that was Gamespy, actually.
Rangoth
08-14-2005, 04:07 PM
I'm just suprised the game actually managed to make it to market!
Liquidize105
08-14-2005, 05:07 PM
EGM and Play are "questionable?"
Yes, questionable. Not the opposite of credible. Notice the use of different words.
It's questionable how low the reviews are (and what's this 5.33/10?) considering how much it's been delayed. Some reviewers tend not to like experimental gameplay and rate unfairly. So yeah, questionable.
IGN gives high scores, but they seem to be coming around lately under all the bad press.
Reanimated
08-14-2005, 05:24 PM
Yes, questionable. Not the opposite of credible. Notice the use of different words.
It's questionable how low the reviews are (and what's this 5.33/10?) considering how much it's been delayed. Some reviewers tend not to like experimental gameplay and rate unfairly. So yeah, questionable.
IGN gives high scores, but they seem to be coming around lately under all the bad press.
As you know (actually you obviously don't), EGM gives 3 scores from 3 different editors in their reviews. Gamerankings takes the average of the 3 scores - thus the 5.33.
In any event, EGM and Play are hardly "questionable".
Kamalot
08-14-2005, 05:32 PM
I just read the full IGN article and have to say, I am REALLY looking forward to trying this out. The adventure/puzzle solving aspect sounds downright great!
Liquidize105
08-14-2005, 05:37 PM
You're right, I didn't know. Neither did I ever say the mags were the questionable sources. IMO, the reviews and their scores are "questionable," as in "leave you in doubt, wondering WTH is up."
By the time more reviews show up, they wouldn't be questionable anymore now would they? By then they'd either be right on the $$$, or off base.
Reanimated
08-14-2005, 06:23 PM
Well all 3 EGM editors gave the game a poor score, which is odd, because normally there's at least one console shill in the mix.
mister_slim
08-14-2005, 06:24 PM
In any event, EGM and Play are hardly "questionable".
Huh? I love Play, but there is no way their review score means anything. If you read the review and are familiar with the reviewers it's a great source, but simply taking the score would be idiotic. And EGM and IGN are about equally questionable and erratic.
Deadend
08-14-2005, 07:10 PM
The IGN review gives me the impression that Geist is a renter game and will be remembered for trying something fairly new. I will probably rent it later this week.
mister_slim
08-14-2005, 07:25 PM
Summary:
Negative: Not much like Halo at all.
Positive: Not much like Halo at all.
Crono
08-14-2005, 08:04 PM
There is a reason the reader reviews are better than the actual reviews. It's a Nintendo game. These Nintendo zealots would rate anything with "Nintendo" on it as an 11 out of 10. They are fanatical, creatures of their own kind these Nintendo Fans. Don't believe me? Try talking sensibly to one about any Nintendo game you don't like in a mature manner. It won't be long till they start calling you a poopy-head and that you're gay and have no taste in games and blah blah blah.
Basically reader reviews are praising it because of Nintendo zealots.
IndependentGMR
08-14-2005, 10:15 PM
I played the demo for a little while and wasn't all that impressed. If it represents how the final version of the game plays, I'd definately only rent the game.
Oh, and by the way, I'm a Nintendo fan.
thecrazyd
08-14-2005, 10:17 PM
There is a reason the reader reviews are better than the actual reviews. It's a Nintendo game. These Nintendo zealots would rate anything with "Nintendo" on it as an 11 out of 10. They are fanatical, creatures of their own kind these Nintendo Fans. Don't believe me? Try talking sensibly to one about any Nintendo game you don't like in a mature manner. It won't be long till they start calling you a poopy-head and that you're gay and have no taste in games and blah blah blah.
Basically reader reviews are praising it because of Nintendo zealots.
Bullshit. Same is true with XBox fanboys, and Sony fanboys. A fanboy is a fanboy.
Ultima Thulian
08-14-2005, 10:28 PM
Well the game is developed by N-Space (a team responsible for a MaryKate and Ashley game) and the reviews are mostly above average at best. But I'll still rent it and give it a go. Hell, what other game lets you possess a bowl of dog food?
What other game lets you posess a showerhead while a lady's taking a shower? I rest my case.
Player 1
08-15-2005, 02:23 AM
What other game lets you posess a showerhead while a lady's taking a shower? I rest my case.
What case is that?
:rolleyes:
It's all pretty biased stuff. The litmus test is to consider the game as a PC, PS2 or Xbox release and consider what the response would be: nobody would care less.
I've seen gaming communities over 10 years of being online, the Nintendo Zealots are the most fanatical of the lot (on seeing some static screenshots of PS2 RE4 I've seen the n-tards go apeshit and claim that it's all pre-rendered). PS2 fanboys can be shocking, I find the Xbox fans to be quite reasoned people actually.
I own all three before you ask.
Regardless, the tone of the initial news report is pretty immature: When you don't like the message, attack the messenger. And before you defend yourself by trying to redefine "questionable" I'd rather you explained why you felt the need to apply ANY label in the first place.
H.Bogard
08-15-2005, 04:40 AM
I have to say that I like Gamespot's reviews. Maybe it is because they seem to be people that "play everything" like I do and thus tend to be much more critical.
Explain brothers in arms and halo 2 getting 9.3 and above scores.
It's all pretty biased stuff. The litmus test is to consider the game as a PC, PS2 or Xbox release and consider what the response would be
God bless you for saying PC
Crono
08-15-2005, 07:44 AM
Bullshit. Same is true with XBox fanboys, and Sony fanboys. A fanboy is a fanboy.
I would agree, but I have seen the severity of the Nintendo fanboys as well as XBox and Sony fanboys. Truth be told the Nintendo fanboys are overly-zealous about their system.
bean19
08-15-2005, 07:46 AM
H. Bogard - Both of those gamespot reviews got video reviews and many people would agree with those scores. Halo 2 was a great game for the Xbox, and Brothers in Arms finally did something different with the WW II FPS (I had a lot of fun with Brothers in Arms).
However, I agre with you that the point scores were high on those 2 games, but these are exceptions more than rules. I could name a shit-ton of soft reviews for other gaming sites.
eatme
08-15-2005, 10:07 AM
From the IGN review:
"Gamers looking for something unique and more geared toward the adult crowd will likely find themselves well served by Geist. Everyone else should give it a rent, just to experience the possession mechanics firsthand."
How useful is this to readers? How many of them are actually going to admit, "no, I prefer to play derivative, license-driven garbage." It's the truth, though.
Anyway, after reading that, I'm considering picking it up. :)
Rangoth
08-15-2005, 12:23 PM
I want to go on record as saying I disagree with the 9.3 rating for Halo 2 for one very simple reason: I WANT A FUCKING ENDING YOU WHORISH BASTARDS!
H.Bogard
08-16-2005, 05:57 PM
Both of those gamespot reviews got video reviews and many people would agree with those scores. Halo 2 was a great game for the Xbox, and Brothers in Arms finally did something different with the WW II FPS (I had a lot of fun with Brothers in Arms).
actually I , amoung many others, find BiA to be one of the most linear, boring and bland shooters ever made ...seriously ...its not just gamespot....every website out there gave it an ASS-KISS rating in their reviews, i just cant understand why...the levels are so crap you just follow a straight path all the time, no moving sideways or out of the route passages , shitty graphics with tonnes of lightbloom , and ofcourse overusage of the word FLANK.
SMITTY - QUIT WANKING AND FLANK THOSE GERMS!
dev interview - "so you can pause the game at any point and work out a strategy i e send your soldier out to flank the enemy"
for fucks sake! if i hear that word again i`m gonna punch the mouth it came from!
Rangoth
08-16-2005, 06:03 PM
Atleast BiA had an ENDING! While you are correct on all of your complaints, that one simple point places it above Halo 2 for me. Sorry, but I am like 90 levels of pissed over that fact. They take HOW long and gave me nothing? Come on, atleast give me a nicely rendered middle finger! A picture of some dude mooning me and the announcer going "HAHAHAHA, SUCKERS!" but NOTHING? For fucks sake!!
Ultima Thulian
08-16-2005, 09:20 PM
Does it really matter what IGN/Gamespot/Dumbass SemenSucker fanboy rated a game? I'm not implying that professional reviews/reviewers are dumb or fanboys, but I'm saying that I'm the best reviewer in the world. What do I mean, you ask? I decide what game I BUY. I think every one probably (or should) feel the same way. Obviosly, H. Bogard could give two shits and a dicklick about the feedback reviewers say, if he doesn't like a game, then he won't like it no matter how much the reviewers talk about the game. That is the way to do things. If you THINK a game is fun because some one told you its fun, then you're probably playing for the wrong reasons.
I'm not bashing review sites. Hell, I check gametab or gamerankings nearly everytime I think about buying a game. It gives me a good idea of the game's caliber. That doesn't mean I agree with them all the time. Many reviewers hated Advent Rising. I liked it, worts and all. Many reviewers loved the first Silent Hill games. I thought controling the character in those games was slightly less difficult then driving 100mph into oncoming traffic while steering the wheel with my ass. So I didn't like it. Still it is a great way too see if you MAY OR MAY NOT like a game. If I still have doubts I'll borrow or rent the game myself.
As for Geist, it leasts it gives an effort. I can think of a worse thing to do on a weekend. Like driving into oncoming traffic at 100mph while steering with my ass.
H.Bogard
08-18-2005, 04:55 AM
Ultima 13 : Call me a tubelight, but i cant figure out whether what you said was intended as a flame, or was it a good thing :confused:
Ultima Thulian
08-18-2005, 06:29 PM
Ultima 13 : Call me a tubelight, but i cant figure out whether what you said was intended as a flame, or was it a good thing :confused:
No no! That is definately a good thing! I was trying to say that COMPLETELY relying on reviews isn't smart. You on the other hand, played Halo 2 and BIA, but didn't like them which is fine. At least you played them for yourself. I guess what I was trying to say (I guess very poorly I might add :p ) is that people don't think for themselves when it comes to games sometimes. For example, before I bought Doom 3 for the Xbox, I checked the reviews, they all just flourished the game with praise.
Still not sure, I asked someone who was just bragging the game right and left. I said, "So you played it? Is it any good?" He tells me he never actually played it, just read the Gamespy review. Wow. He likes a game he never played. You tried the games for yourself before praising/bashing them. Which is usually the way to go. So yeah, I was trying to compliment you. Sorry for not clarifying that. :)
Rangoth
08-18-2005, 07:07 PM
I thought controling the character in those games was slightly less difficult then driving 100mph into oncoming traffic while steering the wheel with my ass.
I might actually pay money to see you do this :) LOL
Ultima Thulian
08-18-2005, 07:13 PM
I might actually pay money to see you do this :) LOL
Well I don't have a driver's license yet, so I better not. I wouldn't want to be pulled over or anything. :)
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