Edwards Dropping Out of Presidental Race

[jromero]

The title says it all. You can read up (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22913001/) (what little there is) on MSNBC.

Well, I guess he gave it a good run. Good look to him in whatever he decides to do from here.

[[GH-SC]Ryctor]

Damn you JR..i just finished posting this too :(

[joruussuun]

I wonder if this will help or hurt Obama, since I believe Edwards was mostly stealing votes from Clinton.

I hope he announces support for Obama, as that would really help going into Tuesday.

BTW, I'm for Obama if you couldn't tell!

[Flatpicker]

Guess he's lining himself up for a VP position.
Whoever he sides with will probably get my vote. Esp if he is on the ticket.

[Deadend]

I am up for a president who is not really old, nor has previously slept in the White house.

[joruussuun]

Guess he's lining himself up for a VP position.
Whoever he sides with will probably get my vote. Esp if he is on the ticket.

It'd be a prime time to announce this week a Obama/Edwards ticket! That's likely a guaranteed win!

[CoachCrazyMcScot]

Guess he's lining himself up for a VP position.
Whoever he sides with will probably get my vote. Esp if he is on the ticket.

He appears as the perfect VP....a bit vanilla, a bit quiet, ready to assume the role of the ribbon-cutter.

[CaptStu]

Edwards views more closely align with Obama's, so I would expect for him to endorse him.

[jromero]

Yeah I think a Obama/Edwards ticket would be a sure-fire winner.

That is, unless Huckabee/Norris is announced. Then it's all over with. ;)

[joruussuun]

That is, unless Huckabee/Norris is announced. Then it's all over with. ;)

Competition mysteriously starts dropping with boot prints on the jaw?

EDIT: But seriously, it doesn't look like Huckabee is going to make it, but I sincerely hope it never comes to Huckabee in office. A preacher should not be POTUS. Period.

[Flatpicker]

He appears as the perfect VP....a bit vanilla, a bit quiet, ready to assume the role of the ribbon-cutter.
He also plays well with either candidate demographically being a white southern male.

[jromero]

Competition mysteriously starts dropping with boot prints on the jaw?

Now there's a change of policy i can get behind!

[joruussuun]

The only reason I can see Edwards not getting behind Obama right away is that if Clinton comes through he'll want to be on her ticket instead.

[King Drewsky]

He also plays well with either candidate demographically being a white southern male.

The South hates him. He's a douche. Obamalinton are better off without him.

[Abash Alarmist]

Good. I was just thinking last night that if Edwards dropped out, Obama would have an easier time becoming the candidate. My thinking is that the anti-Hillary crowd have two options; and being the only option left, Obama will pick-up a lot of slack and support. Now, if only Gore would announce who to support in the next couple of days.

[Schnoogs]

Oh darn! ;)

Well with McCain pulling ahead in the Republican race it's more and more likely that I'll be voting for either Hillary or Obama. Why does that make me want to spit with disgust?

[Oxonian]

Whoever he sides with will probably get my vote.
May I ask why? I can see why you would support a particular candidate, but I have difficulty understanding why that candidate's endorsement would matter to you. Surely you are capable of evaluating Clinton and Obama and determining which you prefer now that Edwards has dropped out. If you thought Obama was closer to your views, but Edwards endorsed Clinton, why would you switch? Do you think he has better judgment than you do, or that he has access to information you don't?

I mean, if Abraham Lincoln rose from the dead and said, "Ox, I think you should support Mitt Romney," I'd certainly listen attentively to his arguments. After all, he's the Great Empancipator, and if he swam across the River Styx for me, the least I can do is hear him out. But unless he came up with some brilliant argument I hadn't considered before, I doubt he would change my mind. And so Honest Abe would be disappointed and fly away on a rainbow.

Yeah, I'm not really sure where that came from either. Kind of a vivid image, though.

[Zero]

After all, he's the Great Empancipator, and if he swam across the River Styx for me, the least I can do is hear him out. But unless he came up with some brilliant argument I hadn't considered before, I doubt he would change my mind. And so Honest Abe would be disappointed and fly away on a rainbow.

Yeah, I'm not really sure where that came from either. Kind of a vivid image, though.

You God-less Pagan heathen. Lincoln would come down from the pearly gates. Cuz that's where all old white presidents go, right? Also it's emancipator.

[Schnoogs]

You God-less Pagan heathen. Lincoln would come down from the pearly gates. Cuz that's where all old white presidents go, right? Also it's emancipator.

Ox made a typo? How ironic.

[Zero]

Ox made a typo? How ironic.

Yeah, I know. I feel like I'm gonna tear a hole in the time-space continuum. :D

[Oxonian]

You God-less Pagan heathen. Lincoln would come down from the pearly gates. Also it's emancipator.
[dr. claw]I'll get you next time, Gadget. NEXT TIME![/dr. claw]

[Beelzebud]

Lincoln would endorse Mitt Romney? LOL

[rein]

I'm not getting it when it comes to Obama. Here is a quote from the NY Times.
The problem with Mrs. Clinton's savings plan, according to the Obama view, is that many people won’t save even when they are offered subsidies to do so. After all, many workers who are eligible for 401(k) matching funds don’t take advantage of them now.

So Mr. Obama would instead require companies to deduct money automatically from their employees’ paychecks and place it in a savings account the employee owned. Employees could opt out of the program. But if they did nothing, they would end up saving money. It’s an idea that comes directly from academic research showing that savings rates have jumped when individual companies have adopted such plans.


Require companies to deduct money? Are you kidding me? I lean left, but damn! That is a little too much government influence. Give me matching contributions and let me decide what I will and will not contribute. This "opt out" technique is what web sites use to scam users into sharing information.

[Xerxes]

a bit vanilla, a bit quiet, ready to assume the role of the ribbon-cutter.

Very Vice Presidential.

[IrishWhiskey]

Require companies to deduct money? Are you kidding me? I lean left, but damn! That is a little too much government influence. Give me matching contributions and let me decide what I will and will not contribute. This "opt out" technique is what web sites use to scam users into sharing information....What are you talking about? Its like an optional Payroll tax. In other words its like what already exists, only people can choose whether or not they have it go toward cheaper healthcare, or just keep the money. How incredibly socialist. And I'm pretty sure the government already has your information.

[IrishWhiskey]

I'm very surprised and disappointed at this. Not only did I think he was doing a good job of impacting the debates by keeping them more focused on issues and diffusing 'identity' attacks, but had he won more delegates, I think it would have helped himself and Obama. But then again, running a full-time 50 state campaign is demanding and expensive, and there are good reasons not to. So now the race gets interesting.....

[Schnoogs]

Lincoln would endorse Mitt Romney? LOL

He was secretly a Mormon...way ahead of his time!

[Flatpicker]

May I ask why? I can see why you would support a particular candidate, but I have difficulty understanding why that candidate's endorsement would matter to you. Surely you are capable of evaluating Clinton and Obama and determining which you prefer now that Edwards has dropped out. If you thought Obama was closer to your views, but Edwards endorsed Clinton, why would you switch? Do you think he has better judgment than you do, or that he has access to information you don't?

I mean, if Abraham Lincoln rose from the dead and said, "Ox, I think you should support Mitt Romney," I'd certainly listen attentively to his arguments. After all, he's the Great Empancipator, and if he swam across the River Styx for me, the least I can do is hear him out. But unless he came up with some brilliant argument I hadn't considered before, I doubt he would change my mind. And so Honest Abe would be disappointed and fly away on a rainbow.

Yeah, I'm not really sure where that came from either. Kind of a vivid image, though.

The short answer is that I misspoke slightly.
I meant if he was the VP on the ticket.
I have issues with both Clinton and Obama and feel that having Edwards on the ticket would temper the issues I have.

As to the Image you wrote.
Can I have some of what your having? Seems like good stuff.:D

[Zanzibar]

Edwards will wait until the convention to endorse anybody. If neither candidate has enough delegates, he will initiate a bidding free-for-all for his delegates. If either candidate wants Edwards on the ticket, they'll get his delegates.

However, if one candidate starts dominating, he can endorse them earlier, but I doubt he'll give up his chips until he absolutely has to.

[IrishWhiskey]

Edwards will wait until the convention to endorse anybody. If neither candidate has enough delegates, he will initiate a bidding free-for-all for his delegates. If either candidate wants Edwards on the ticket, they'll get his delegates.

However, if one candidate starts dominating, he can endorse them earlier, but I doubt he'll give up his chips until he absolutely has to.That's what I thought when he said he was staying till the convention, but now I'm not so sure. Most of his delegates are automatically given to Obama and Hillary when he leaves the race, and the 10 or so he has to trade are extremely unlikely to shift the race one way or another. The biggest influence he could have in the race is right now, before Super Tuesday, if he were to endorse a candidate and campaign for them (or get announced as VP). After that his stock becomes worth considerably less.

[rein]

...What are you talking about? Its like an optional Payroll tax. In other words its like what already exists, only people can choose whether or not they have it go toward cheaper healthcare, or just keep the money. How incredibly socialist. And I'm pretty sure the government already has your information.
I do not post much in political topics because... ...well... ...it's just not worth the effort. Political and releigious debates never end well on internet forums. :) But, this is not about an optional payroll tax. This is a 401k program. Yes, we have them now but we opt in to them and choose to participate. Obama is suggesting that employers be required to sign employees up for a 401k and have the employee opt out if they do not wish to participate.

I'm not sure where you are getting a healthcare reference in my quote or a payroll tax. I mentioned 401k which has nothing to do with healthcare or a payroll tax deduction. :confused:

[IrishWhiskey]

I do not post much in political topics because... ...well... ...it's just not worth the effort. Political and releigious debates never end well on internet forums. :)I disagree. And for thinking otherwise you are a traitor, a Nazi and a whore.

No seriously, a lot of them here do go well. Its just when something comes up on abortion, religion, global warming or evolution, shit goes to hell-in-a-handbasket fast.I'm not sure where you are getting a healthcare reference in my quote or a payroll tax. I mentioned 401k which has nothing to do with healthcare or a payroll tax deduction. :confused: It seemed like you were outraged at the idea of companies taking money from salaries at the governments behest, and the 401K was only mentioned in the quote. I tried providing an example of taxes coming from salary. I probably misunderstood the source of your objection.This is a 401k program. Yes, we have them now but we opt in to them and choose to participate. Obama is suggesting that employers be required to sign employees up for a 401k and have the employee opt out if they do not wish to participate.Well... yeah basically. The debate is over Universal Healthcare, and almost everyone agrees that it would be better if everyone was covered (except maybe Dwight Shrute). Not everyone agrees how that should happen, or if government should be involved at all. Out of all the Democratic candidates, Obama probably has the most conservative plan, in that he's not even requiring coverage, just making it the default position that people can opt out of. So I'm surprised that seems to shock you in particular.

[walkstheplanes]

I mean, if Abraham Lincoln rose from the dead and said, "Ox, I think you should support Mitt Romney," I'd certainly listen attentively to his arguments. After all, he's the Great Empancipator, and if he swam across the River Styx for me, the least I can do is hear him out. But unless he came up with some brilliant argument I hadn't considered before, I doubt he would change my mind. And so Honest Abe would be disappointed and fly away on a rainbow.

I'll listen to any goddamn thing a person says to me if he swam the River Styx to say it.

The whole rainbow thing would set any conversation I have with that person in stone.

Abraham Lincoln is so awesome. /disjointed reply

Anyways, I thought Edwards stated he wasn't going to endorse anyone, period... ?

[Schnoogs]

McCain will be announcing that if he wins the primary he will name Ted Kennedy as his Vice President thus confirming the fact that he's really a democrat in disguise.

[Oxonian]

Anyways, I thought Edwards stated he wasn't going to endorse anyone, period... ?
Edwards also stated he would remain in the race until the convention.

McCain will be announcing that if he wins the primary he will name Ted Kennedy as his Vice President thus confirming the fact that he's really a democrat in disguise.
Is that like a robot in disguise? Great, now I won't be able to look at McCain without hoping to see him transform.

[Zanzibar]

That's right. McCain IS a Democrat. All you conservatives, be sure to show your displeasure with him by staying home in November. The next President is screwed anyways, so better to let Hillary or Obama flounder for 4 years, then elect a 'real' conservative in 2012.

[Wraith]

McCain will be announcing that if he wins the primary he will name Ted Kennedy as his Vice President thus confirming the fact that he's really a democrat in disguise.I assume you're just joking, but this sentiment kinda bugs me. Labeling moderates as RINOs or DINOs when they don't toe the party line.
Is that like a robot in disguise? Great, now I won't be able to look at McCain without hoping to see him transform.I thought Romney was the robot. Just without much disguise.

[Oxonian]

I assume you're just joking, but this sentiment kinda bugs me. Labeling moderates as RINOs or DINOs when they don't toe the party line.
Yeah. I have plenty of disagreements with McCain, but he's in favor of the Iraq War, he's pro-life, he likes Roberts and Alito, he's in favor of free trade, and he's not inveterately hostile to the Bush tax cuts. Democrats (used to) like to flirt with him, but they wouldn't like him very much if he actually switched parties.

[Schnoogs]

I assume you're just joking, but this sentiment kinda bugs me. Labeling moderates as RINOs or DINOs when they don't toe the party line.

Get a sense of humor man...you'll live longer.

[Wraith]

Get a sense of humor man...you'll live longer.Yeah, it's not really your comment I'm bugged by.

[torrefaction]

What the fuck is up with your imagery today Ox? Between rainbow flying, River of Styx Lincoln, and the drunken presidential vomiting...I have to wonder if you haven't changed your stance on Marijuana.

[Abash Alarmist]

What the fuck is up with your imagery today Ox? Between rainbow flying, River of Styx Lincoln, and the drunken presidential vomiting...I have to wonder if you haven't changed your stance on Marijuana.

Don't ruin it. I enjoy this 'druggy' version of Oxonian.