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Zabyx
01-19-2008, 10:57 PM
There's some political unrest going about in my guild, and I decided to make an Alliance toon, Dwarf, to be precise. Any advice between the two classes? I'm well aware of each of their roles, and am willing to play both (healer and DPS, respectively). Basically, it's between them because I want to try something new. So, any suggestions?

Ikenstein
01-19-2008, 11:01 PM
IMO, I found that Hunter was much more fun than Paladin. Paladin seemed a lot slower than Hunter, but that's just my perception.

Zabyx
01-19-2008, 11:02 PM
I'll take that into consideration, but I do have a lot of free time lately, so it's not too big an issue... But it is indeed an issue.

Heretic Machine
01-19-2008, 11:06 PM
Hunter is more fun, IMO, once you get the pet. Before you get the pet it can be something of a bitch.

Goronmon
01-19-2008, 11:07 PM
Hunter's are fun, both leveling and end-game. You can enjoy the ease of leveling that having a pocket tank gives you, then spec into BM in raids and top the DPS charts.

Leveling a paladin, sucks, IMO. Until you hit 40+, you are stuck using Ret to level. Even then, it's going to be slow going. Things speed up a bit once you can spec into Prot and can tank multiple mobs at a time. Problem is, you are stuck grinding because you need to stick to certain types of mobs. However, endgame they can be pretty fun. You can go heal or tank and do very well in both. Though, I did find raid healing as a pally gets old fairly quickly due to the simplistic nature of their use.

Zabyx
01-19-2008, 11:07 PM
Hunter is more fun, IMO, once you get the pet. Before you get the pet it can be something of a bitch.

They got rid of deadzone, so apparently it's not as bad.

Skjef
01-19-2008, 11:08 PM
Last I checked, hunter was the most played class, and has only one possible role - DPS.

I've seen level 70 pallies tank, heal, and even DPS with the right gear and spec.

You'll have a much easier time finding a group to instance with as a pally, but you'll level faster as a hunter.

Summary:
If you like PVP, go hunter. PVE, pally.

silv
01-19-2008, 11:11 PM
Pally's are boring in my opinion. You only have 2 spells to heal people with, and ret pallies are underpowered compared to other classes.

That leaves tanking pallies, which is probably the only fun spec.

Zabyx
01-19-2008, 11:25 PM
Pally's are boring in my opinion. You only have 2 spells to heal people with, and ret pallies are underpowered compared to other classes.

That leaves tanking pallies, which is probably the only fun spec.

I'm not playing a Pally to tank (though I may go prot for leveling). My main's a Warrior, so... Yeah.

Drayven
01-20-2008, 08:45 AM
I'm not playing a Pally to tank (though I may go prot for leveling). My main's a Warrior, so... Yeah.

Well if your mains a warrior you should make a paladin and go prot. If you do alot of 5/10 mans you'll probably be much better off. Then you can make your warrior dps.

Draft
01-20-2008, 08:46 AM
Hunter is the most broken, fun to play class in WoW. Love the hunter.

KingGorilla
01-20-2008, 12:18 PM
If you are already a warrior, and used to being bitched at, neglected, and taken for granted, why stop there? Roll a priest.

But more importantly, if your current guild is not satisfying you? Move on to the Evil Avatar guild.

Deadend
01-20-2008, 12:22 PM
Hunters are more fun, and that is what it comes down to. Later on you can probably make a pally, but I thought all everyone wanted was a pally that was one the new races?

Shjinta
01-20-2008, 12:26 PM
Hunter's are fun, both leveling and end-game. You can enjoy the ease of leveling that having a pocket tank gives you, then spec into BM in raids and top the DPS charts.

Leveling a paladin, sucks, IMO. Until you hit 40+, you are stuck using Ret to level. Even then, it's going to be slow going. Things speed up a bit once you can spec into Prot and can tank multiple mobs at a time. Problem is, you are stuck grinding because you need to stick to certain types of mobs. However, endgame they can be pretty fun. You can go heal or tank and do very well in both. Though, I did find raid healing as a pally gets old fairly quickly due to the simplistic nature of their use.


yeah my hunter is BM spec.. But I raid with my rogue.. Honestly BM hunters can only top the charts if their pet stays alive.. on my server right now, the highest DPS hunters are all Marksman.

Squidbot
01-21-2008, 08:51 AM
Rogue.

Oh, sorry. Paladins are dull as dishwater, for my playing style. Pre TBC I had a nice MM Hunter, whom I loved to raid and PvP with, but since I got my Rogue to 70 I have hardly played poor old Werecow at all.

Hunters can be immense fun, and are absurdly easy to level. If you do roll Hunter try and play as best you can, think carefully before rolling on items, and for Zod’s sake don’t tab target!

Hunter is a great class, but will probably never shake the huntard stigma it has attained as a result of so many idiotic kids rolling Hunters.

GunnyMo
01-21-2008, 08:59 AM
Go with the Healadin. Hunters are great for soloing and whatnot but good luck trying to find groupage outside a guild. Hunters rock a group but most people never want a hunter in their group.

the Jack
01-21-2008, 12:57 PM
Paladins are dull as dishwater, for my playing style.
Here's your answer.

Play both as much as you can stomach and decide which button combos you like pressing more.

You never really know which class totally suits you until you level the shit to 70 and actually start playing the game.

digitalErich
01-21-2008, 01:05 PM
Go with the Healadin. Hunters are great for soloing and whatnot but good luck trying to find groupage outside a guild. Hunters rock a group but most people never want a hunter in their group.
This is because the majority of hunters are shit at their class. I had a friend who was a hunter that I loved grouping with, because he knew his class.

Of course there are players of any class that don't know their class that well, but hunters seem to have a higher percentage of these types.

Soap
01-21-2008, 01:09 PM
If you like playing the Pokemons and gotta collect them all, Hunter class bar none. Getting cool looking pets was always fun for me. Plus Dwarfs get bonus for guns right? Guns, beers, dwarf tossing = Fun.

I couldn't get into the Paladin class because the levelling and fighting was super slow. I like the pet class character a lot more.

Arilin
01-21-2008, 04:03 PM
Go with the Healadin. Hunters are great for soloing and whatnot but good luck trying to find groupage outside a guild. Hunters rock a group but most people never want a hunter in their group.

I can say that's something i've never run into with my hunter. I'm not amazing by any stretch, but nor do I suck. Dunno, I've just never had a problem finding groups. Typically i'll use the group finder thing in WoW and it normally will always worked, which suprised me when I first started to use it.

here's my Hunter (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dragonblight&n=Arilin). Like I said, nothing special but I've just begun raids.

mightbe
01-21-2008, 04:14 PM
I've leveled every class to 40+.

Paladin is the most painful in my opinion. Reck/Ret takes the sting away and the changes to sub level 60 XP make it much easier.

But it still sucks.

Endgame though, I love playing paladin. My priest and druid have taken a back seat to her as I MT the shit out of 25 mans.

<3 Flowana (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Scarlet+Crusade&n=Flowana)

mightbe
01-21-2008, 04:18 PM
Now for huntard comments:

Hunters can be an extremely valuable addition to a raid. But the problem they face is that they're kinda worthless to stack. Multiple pallies means moar blessings. Multiple hunters means more people .... feign deathing? Who fucking knows.

But if you're competing for a raid slot, packing a healer instead of a DPS is the way to go. If you guild is more chill and laid back about raiding, your hunter might get in. But it will likely be undergeared compared to their others. You'll have a tough time earning your spot as a DPSer and being a hunter attaches an even worse stigma.

BUT!

I heartily encourage multiple 70's.

Blitz your pally to 70 and start the raid game/honor grind/stand in the welfare epics line ASAP to gear her up. Then in your spare time, level that hunter and use him to do your farming.

That way your pally specs how she wants and your huntard feeds her nasty habits.

Squidbot
01-21-2008, 04:45 PM
Multiple hunters means more people .... feign deathing? Who fucking knows.


Multiple aspects.

spacemanspiff757
01-21-2008, 05:03 PM
personally, I love my Warlock (spec'd Destruction and building Affliction). I average about 800-900 standard damage and around 2k for crits. I've out-damaged Hunters my level in groups, and that's one (of the many) reasons I stopped playing my Hunter. Plus, they are a dime a dozen on my server.

For a change of pace, I rolled a Mage and am really liking that though I'm only level 30. But the ability to conjure food and water makes grinding a breeze because I don't have to find a town as often.

pwnophobia
01-22-2008, 08:40 AM
there are to many 'huntards' running around. If you roll one make sure to read the forums extensively and look at a few guides on what the best specs are, weapons, etc. I have seen far to many terrible hunters that are only "good" because of beast mastery and arcane shot.

The same goes with paladins. Knowing when to heal. Knowing how to not bubble out of a fear when you're at 50% life...etc.

Goronmon
01-22-2008, 09:11 AM
Honestly, BM spec and a good Steady Shot macro make a huge difference in DPSing as a hunter.

Check out the stats from last nights SSC raid.

Stats (http://wowwebstats.com/ovvobzp1n6kb5)

Now, it was just two hunters in there. At a glance, we look like we are putting our similar numbers. However, the other hunter's gear kicks the crap out of mine.

My gear. (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Vek%27nilash&n=Dreagon)

His gear. (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Vek%27nilash&n=Nawana)

I'm not trying to brag or anything, just showing how much of a difference knowing how to maximize your DPS can make.

xDIRTYSOUTHx
01-22-2008, 01:03 PM
Doit like the REAL uber dorks do and run both..

Zero
01-22-2008, 06:56 PM
Multiple aspects.

Most aspects are only self-cast. They're not like Pally auras.

ShivaX
01-22-2008, 06:58 PM
PvP or PvE?

PvE - Paladin is better and more likely to get into raids and the like
PvP - Hunters are better

KingGorilla
01-22-2008, 10:18 PM
Pets are nice in PVP. With some of the mage Tweaks the Frost Mage has really become a bit of a force to be reckoned with when played properly.

But my initial query goes unanswered. If you are going to roll again, why not with Evil Avatar?

Deadend
01-22-2008, 10:21 PM
Zabxy, how many times have you hit 70 before? As the hunter seems better for rushing to 70, but the Pally seems capable of having more to do at 70.

KingGorilla
01-22-2008, 10:31 PM
Doesn't everyone have the same things to do at 70? Rep grind, crafting, Battlegrounds, Raids, and Arena?

Deadend
01-22-2008, 10:41 PM
Doesn't everyone have the same things to do at 70? Rep grind, crafting, Battlegrounds, Raids, and Arena?
Yeah, but I guess the Paladin is wanted more at lv 70, as everyone, their little brother, their older sister and the guy down the hall all have lv 70 hunters.

Primus
01-23-2008, 01:44 AM
Hunter was my favorite class in that game. I had like 4 Hunters above lvl20, and all my alt rogues, paladins, shamans all never broke like lvl15. I just got bored with them after rolling a hunter first!

Squidbot
01-23-2008, 05:54 AM
Most aspects are only self-cast. They're not like Pally auras.

Yes, I know, I have raided as a Hunter. Aspect of the Wild for each group in a raid can be extremely useful, especially in Zul'Aman. Also having one BM and one MM, for the DPS and for Trueshot aura, is nice.

Isamura
01-23-2008, 04:41 PM
Hunter was my favorite class in that game. I had like 4 Hunters above lvl20....

You had 4 hunters? Why not just make one hunter, and spend that time you wasted on the other three, leveling the first one up?

Phanto
01-23-2008, 04:56 PM
It really depends in what you really would like to do, if you like to be a supportive player buffing every other teammates on your party you should go Paly, or if you want to be a sort of tank and puller in fights the hunter is the choice here..