Xbox 360 plays music from PSP, closer look at Xbox Dashboard

[bandersnatch]

A poster on PSP Vault (http://www.psp-vault.com/module-pnForum-viewtopic-topic-1957-start-0.psp) claims he has posession of an Xbox 360 dev kit and has been able to stream mp3's straight from the PSP to the 360. He's also posted multiple screenshots of the Xbox 360 dashboard. Very cool.


I finally got an xbox360 dev kit today, and was able to see how well it interacts with the PSP. It worked great - I was able to listen to mp3s right off the PSP through the Xbox360 Music Player, and view images from the PSP at full screen.

Found via GameInsider. (http://www.gameinsider.com/)

[EyesNoMore]

Connecting the PSP to it is nothing to get excited about. The PSP functions just like any usb drive. I have a feeling this is all that J Allard was talking about when he said the 360 would connect with competitor's products. Personally, I was hoping for something a little more interesting.

Still, it's nice to see the dashboard pics. :)

[balamoor]

A poster on PSP Vault claims he has posession of an Xbox 360 dev kit

Yeah Jeri Ryan just delivered mine, and wants me to spend the weekend at her place.

[Zeal]

It's not like it's a big deal. Team Xecuter has had development kits for God knows how long. A lot of people do.

The shit comes out in a few months.

[balamoor]

It's not like it's a big deal. Team Xecuter has had development kits for God knows how long. A lot of people do.

The shit comes out in a few months.


Its a sad day when even my sarcasm is too subtle. :rolleyes:

[kizke]

Its a sad day when even my sarcasm is too subtle. :rolleyes:

Too subtle or just not funny?

:p

[Xaerin]

Too subtle or just not funny?

:p

Burn! .

[Hewie]

I hate to say it, but the Xbox 360 (still hate the name) has already won the next gen console war... and I've been a Sony fanboy since 1996. Sony better have something decent up it's sleeve or it wont stand a chance come Q4 '06.

[I'm_Darth_Vader]

^ Thats a bunch of bullS***. The S*** hasent even came out yet! They need to let the people decied which one is better!

[Hewie]

^ Thats a bunch of bullS***. The S*** hasent even came out yet! They need to let the people decied which one is better!

It's an opinion. My opinion.

[EyesNoMore]

And I guess it's his opinion that you're wrong. :p

[Hewie]

And I guess it's his opinion that you're wrong. :p

Haha :rolleyes: . See, I'd be fine with an objection to what I said, but not when someone outright calls "BULLSHIT" on an opinion.

[amusedtoe]

Connecting the PSP to it is nothing to get excited about. The PSP functions just like any usb drive. I have a feeling this is all that J Allard was talking about when he said the 360 would connect with competitor's products. Personally, I was hoping for something a little more interesting.

Like irreporably deleting the PSP's firmware, or shorting it out? Maybe causing a small nuclear explosion inside of it? :D ;)

[Babbster]

My worry with this feature is that it probably isn't going to work with my very non-standard Creative Nomad. Don't get me wrong: I love my Nomad, and it works great for its primary function (dumping 40GB of music on it and listening), but its driver requirements are ridiculous and the drivers themselves are stinkola.

[Hewie]

My worry with this feature is that it probably isn't going to work with my very non-standard Creative Nomad. Don't get me wrong: I love my Nomad, and it works great for its primary function (dumping 40GB of music on it and listening), but its driver requirements are ridiculous and the drivers themselves are stinkola.

I thought I was the only one who loved the Nomad Jukebox. That thing's a beast, but it's still better than anything else on the market.

[bandersnatch]

Even a 40 gb ipod?!? (I know they don't make em anymore but I love mine!)

[Hewie]

Even a 40 gb ipod?!? (I know they don't make em anymore but I love mine!)

The iPod (all generations) has never had quality sound. It's fine for what it is, a portable music player. However, Creative's products (especially the higher-end) have always been about overall quality, not gimmicks and "cool"-factor. I recommend buying/borring a decent pair of Sennheiser headphones and comparing mp3 players at BestBuy or something. You'll quickly find out which products are all hype and trendy.

[bandersnatch]

Ahh, yes. I will give that to you.

I've read Consumer Reports when they checked out mp3 players and creative labs scored across the board for highest sound quality. Apple's ipod got an average rating.

That being said -- I choose the ipod over creative for two main reasons. I found it easier to get accessories for the device and I also found the ipod very easy to use, the interface very clean and simple to navigate through with the click wheel.

[Hewie]

That being said -- I choose the ipod over creative for two main reasons. I found it easier to get accessories for the device and I also found the ipod very easy to use, the interface very clean and simple to navigate through with the click wheel.

You're right about the accessories. The docking stations, FM transmitters, etc. are very cool accessories to have, not to mention the amazing colour screens of the new generation. The killer of all that is cool is the battery. Paying $200+ on an mp3 player that down the line will need to have it's battery replaced by Apple for a large sum? Ouch, hope you got the extended warranty.

-- What was the topic of this news post again? I've forgotten :D

[bandersnatch]

I hate to say it, but the Xbox 360 (still hate the name) has already won the next gen console war... and I've been a Sony fanboy since 1996. Sony better have something decent up it's sleeve or it wont stand a chance come Q4 '06.

Hmm, hard to say IMHO. There's too many what-if's for me. I browse on a lot of gamesite forums and both camps seem to be 50/50 in attracting hardcore gamers (read first adapters -- customers who love to buy the latest technology regardless of price).

Have you heard about how MS is planning to release the xbox 360 at launch with standard DVD then move to HD-DVD? (http://www.gameinsider.com/comments.php?id=812)

Bad move, MS. I won't even touch the Xbox 360 till I know I'm getting a HD-DVD drive in mine.

That being said -- if Xbox 360 does about 10 million units worldwide by the time PS3 launches (IMHO again), they'll have a chance. :)

[Twigz'N'Berries]

Yeah Jeri Ryan just delivered mine, and wants me to spend the weekend at her place.

Jeri Ryan is hot...you lucky @#$%!! I heard she used to swing with her ex-old man the senator. I'd buy that for a dollar.

Oh, this is good news for MS. It means that people with a PSP do not have to choose a PS3 if they want to have connectivity to their new console of choice. Although, I wouldn't put it past Sony to implement software which makes this difficult down the line.

[Hewie]

Have you heard about how MS is planning to release the xbox 360 at launch with standard DVD then move to HD-DVD? (http://www.gameinsider.com/comments.php?id=812)

Bad move, MS. I won't even touch the Xbox 360 till I know I'm getting a HD-DVD drive in mine.

That being said -- if Xbox 360 does about 10 million units worldwide by the time PS3 launches (IMHO again), they'll have a chance. :)

And that's why I never buy a console at launch and the fact that the price will eventually drop -- during PS3 launch if MS is smart -- so that I can afford it whilst being able to pay rent and buy vinyl. Definitely a bad move.

[Twigz'N'Berries]

Hmm, hard to say IMHO. There's too many what-if's for me. I browse on a lot of gamesite forums and both camps seem to be 50/50 in attracting hardcore gamers (read first adapters -- customers who love to buy the latest technology regardless of price).

Have you heard about how MS is planning to release the xbox 360 at launch with standard DVD then move to HD-DVD? (http://www.gameinsider.com/comments.php?id=812)

Bad move, MS. I won't even touch the Xbox 360 till I know I'm getting a HD-DVD drive in mine.

That being said -- if Xbox 360 does about 10 million units worldwide by the time PS3 launches (IMHO again), they'll have a chance. :)

The whole announcement of the HD-DVD has shot MS in the foot partially. Those of us who know about it are somewhat steamed about the idea of a better 360 coming out down the line.

But for the PS3 winning, I agree that the victory party is way premature. Sony has made some errors in the fact that they tried to dupe consumers with their pre-rendered scenes. They then have eliminated the HD after they stated it would be included. Then other features started disappearing as they had to do cost cutting. The latest I've heard was that they are moving from 512 memory to a 256...
As Sony tries to lower the cost of the unti so that they remain competitive, features are lost. But on the plus side, they are supposed to be beffing up the graphics capabilities...whatever that meant.

Sony's machine seems to be coming back to reality...and MS seems to have moved away from it with the notion that people will be happy with buying a system that will be outclassed in a few months. Secondly, designers will not be able to take advantage of the HD-DVD's extra memory because some people will have it, while others do not.

They have both screwed up in some ways...

[bandersnatch]

The whole announcement of the HD-DVD has shot MS in the foot partially. Those of us who know about it are somewhat steamed about the idea of a better 360 coming out down the line.

But for the PS3 winning, I agree that the victory party is way premature. Sony has made some errors in the fact that they tried to dupe consumers with their pre-rendered scenes. They then have eliminated the HD after they stated it would be included. Then other features started disappearing as they had to do cost cutting. The latest I've heard was that they are moving from 512 memory to a 256...
As Sony tries to lower the cost of the unti so that they remain competitive, features are lost. But on the plus side, they are supposed to be beffing up the graphics capabilities...whatever that meant.

Sony's machine seems to be coming back to reality...and MS seems to have moved away from it with the notion that people will be happy with buying a system that will be outclassed in a few months. Secondly, designers will not be able to take advantage of the HD-DVD's extra memory because some people will have it, while others do not.

They have both screwed up in some ways...


Well said. Especially your second paragraph -- the beating Sony has been taking in the gaming press would make me cring if I was a marketing suit for them.

[Achilles]

Sony's machine seems to be coming back to reality...and MS seems to have moved away from it with the notion that people will be happy with buying a system that will be outclassed in a few months. Secondly, designers will not be able to take advantage of the HD-DVD's extra memory because some people will have it, while others do not.I would predict that if a 360 with HD-DVD ships it won't be for at least 2 years after the 360 launches, and the HD-DVD will only be used to play movies, not for use with games. Their mistake was saying anything, because now people on internet boards are freaking out for no good reason.

[Wonka]

I don't give a flying F&*K in a donut about HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. And I don't understand why anyone else cares about these. About the only thing I can think of (in a game) that would make real use of these would be HD-DVD cutscenes, and most games today use "in-game" cutscenes anyhow. I just can't bring myself to care that much about cutscenes. No matter how hard I try! I think that Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are all going to be stillborn as movie formats. Its just waay to soon for a new format, and they both offer way too little in the way of improvement to justify mass adoption (these are all just my personal crackpot opinions of course).

Yeah I know that Sony has Blu-Ray, but instead of seeing that as a bonus, I can't help but feel that they are just trying to re-sell me movies that I recently just bought from them. It's far far too obvious to me that the next thing they are going to say is: "HD-DVD Spiderman anyone?".

[rein]

Oh, this is good news for MS. It means that people with a PSP do not have to choose a PS3 if they want to have connectivity to their new console of choice.

Well.. ..if by connectivity you mean for music and possible video playback. However, if you want the type of connectivity Nintendo has been doing with game interaction then you will still need the ps3.



Yeah I know that Sony has Blu-Ray, but instead of seeing that as a bonus, I can't help but feel that they are just trying to re-sell me movies that I recently just bought from them. It's far far too obvious to me that the next thing they are going to say is: "HD-DVD Spiderman anyone?".

Why would you have to buy them again? :confused: If you're content with the version you have right now there is no reason to re-buy any movie. No company would be stupid enough to release a HD-DVD or Blu-Ray drive without standard dvd support.

[MosBen]

I think the hardcore overestimate the importance of HD-DVD or Blueray to the average consumer. Hell, I'm posting on a game site and *I* don't care about HD-DVD or Blueray.

[Wonka]

Why would you have to buy them again? :confused: If you're content with the version you have right now there is no reason to re-buy any movie. No company would be stupid enough to release a HD-DVD or Blu-Ray drive without standard dvd support.

EXACTLY Rein, I could not have said it better myself. I DON'T have to buy it. And I WON'T. That is EXACTLY the problem.

Clearly they are doing this because they intend to try and re-sell a lot of older films repackaged as "HD" versions. Consider that 99% of what they want to sell in the next five years has been already sold before as a DVD.

The trouble is that I don't care. And THAT is a very bad sign. I am not a typical consumer. Instead, I am a huge nerd who buys a lot of unecessary CE crap pretty much just because it's shiny and does something that I think is neat. Around my place, we have Tivos, multiple different DVD players, all the consoles, nice surround sound etc. etc. etc. And if I don't care, I'll bet that the average consumer won't care either. Even worse, the average consumer may NEVER care about this.

Sony is making a HUGE gamble with Blu-Ray. It's not at all clear that this is a winning move yet. History is littered with examples of formats that did not take off and and in general, higher quality has not previously ever been a motivation for mass consumers to upgrade to a new format. When higher quality has taken off, it has always been accomanied by higher convenience or some other enormous benefit (like a screen shape that matches what they use in movies). I personally am inclined to see Sonys move with Blu-Ray as a mistake rather than a brilliant move. They are doing it because they are confident that their PS3 line will move many many more units than their PS2 line did and therefore establish a de-facto new proprietary movie standard for their team. But I don't think that people WANT a new movie format, so I think its just going to cost them a ton of money.

I smell a laserdisc fiasco all over again. When this gen of HD-DVD shows up stillborn in the marketplace, the movie studios will start scrambling to find a replacement format that consumers really DO want. I think that this is going to be a fairly difficult sell for the movie business. How do you figure out how to re-sell movies to consumers yet again? That's a job that I would NOT want.

[Babbster]

How do you figure out how to re-sell movies to consumers yet again? That's a job that I would NOT want.

Probably by having DVD 480p and HD-DVD/Blu-Ray 720p/1080i versions of movies playing next to each other in stores. This isn't a laserdisc situation since the difference between LD and VHS was hard to see on smaller screens (far too few big screens at the time) and, in fact, people may have thought they looked worse since they were, in the main, letterboxed - it has taken quite a while, and a lot of widescreen TVs, to get some people used to "losing" picture. The difference between a 480p picture and an HD picture is significant, and it will be easy for people to see.

[bapenguin]

Yeah....but the significant jump in quality of a 480p movie and a 720p movie isn't that significant. Especially since most movies aren't shot in HD. Now for movies shot in HD, it's a different story, but remastering moves in HD...the quality difference simply isn't that astounding.

[mister_slim]

It would get interesting if Sony starts shipping all their movies in DVD/Blu-Ray format. They would take a bit of a hit at first, but there would be a much larger selection of Blu-Ray movies available later. And people who own a DVD/Blu-Ray movie are more likely to upgrade to a Blu-Ray player.

[Babbster]

Yeah....but the significant jump in quality of a 480p movie and a 720p movie isn't that significant. Especially since most movies aren't shot in HD. Now for movies shot in HD, it's a different story, but remastering moves in HD...the quality difference simply isn't that astounding.

Que? The vast majority of movies were shot on film, film with a "resolution" much higher than 720p. Further, most DVDs are made by downsampling from an HD master.

If you need one, I can probably send out a 10 of clubs...

[bapenguin]

Que? The vast majority of movies were shot on film, film with a "resolution" much higher than 720p. Further, most DVDs are made by downsampling from an HD master.

If you need one, I can probably send out a 10 of clubs...

Correct...lets look at an example. Say the T2 HD-DVD vs. the Regular DVD. You can't really see too much of a difference in quality....yes it IS there...but hardly with the price of an upgrade.

While film doesn't have a resolution per-say and can be mastered in any rez possible...the quality of older films becomes an issue. If you try to master something in 1080p from the film, lots of artifacts and other nuances become very noticeable.

[drakkarim]

why in the world would you want to blow up the crappy resolution in a psp (relatively speaking) and throw it on a (potentially) HD tv?