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Hatchetforce
01-07-2008, 05:10 PM
From Kotaku: (http://kotaku.com/341869/sony-makes-blu+ray+to+psp-movie-transfer-official)

The PSP's had a rough time living up to its promise as a top-shelf multimedia device. Short battery life hasn't helped, but perhaps most damning for the system has been - thanks to convoluted formatting processes and a useless proprietary disc format - its movie playback. It's a pain in the ass! Well no longer. Sony have made official at CES today something they've been planning for around a year now: the ability to buy a Blu-Ray movie, insert it in your PS3 and download it to your PSP. For keeps. Awesome news, and it's sure to increase interest in all parties involved, particularly Blu-Ray.


And PC World (http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/006194.html)


The concept of copying a lower-resolution version of a film from a packaged media disc to a portable device is not new--in fact, late last year, Fox and Warner released the first standard definition titles to offer this capability (on Live Free, Die Hard and Harry Potter: The Order of the Phoenix, respectively).

Sony today demonstrated the next level of disc copying. At the company's booth at CES, Sony demonstrated how you could put a Blu-ray Disc movie into a Playstation 3 and copy the film to a Playstation Portable or a Memory Stick. "This way, you can have a portable copy you can take with you," explains David Bishop, president of Sony Pictures Home Entertainment.

BD Live is proving to be a big catchphrase at the show: Panasonic announced its BD Live player yesterday, Fox showcased an early version of its Alien vs. Predator multiplayer game at the Blu-ray Disc Association's booth, and Sony showed its interactive Men in Black trivia game. The game was being played by two people in two locations on a Playstation 3.

Schnoogs
01-07-2008, 05:11 PM
Whoa...this just trippled my interest in one.

Hatchetforce
01-07-2008, 05:17 PM
I am so glad I traded up for a slim. I have the adapter cable and it runs into my system selector and there is nothing like gaming PSP titles on the big screen and the sound is piped out through my surround sound. The picture is actually pretty amazing. I still have a PSOne (no trade in value) and the video out on those is horrible when blown up. But the PSP looks marvelous.

Add to this the fact they are demoing Skype on the PSP and it gets very interesting. Oh one more thing, it looks like the GPS and nav system is coming to the US as well.

Furtive
01-07-2008, 05:25 PM
Awesome! Now for $700 i can watch movies on a PSP!

Siraris
01-07-2008, 05:26 PM
This wreaks of lots of awesome. I just hope it doesn't mean an increase in costs of discs.

I think if they were to look at it in terms of profit, they would make a LOT more by enabling this feature and not increasing prices of discs. I think a lot more people would pick up a PSP, which would also cause them to pick up memory sticks, and most likely games or other peripherals. They would also sell more devices to play the movies. But if you have to pay an extra $5 per movie or something, it would totally defeat the purpose.

oldjadedgamer
01-07-2008, 05:27 PM
..... so now Sony is just saying it's "ok" to do something pretty much everyone with a PSP has been doing for years now. I was putting full movies on my PSP the day I bought it.

The thing I see as new is needing a PS3 instead of a computer to do it.

TrackZero
01-07-2008, 05:28 PM
Good, Sony's still on track for making me want to buy a PSP slim. Now if I can just find one that isn't bundled with a game at the store.

Grimmjow
01-07-2008, 05:31 PM
Good, Sony's still on track for making me want to buy a PSP slim. Now if I can just find one that isn't bundled with a game at the store.

Import one for $199, yeah its an extra $40 but you get fancy colors without the ugly vader head.

oldjadedgamer
01-07-2008, 05:32 PM
Good, Sony's still on track for making me want to buy a PSP slim. Now if I can just find one that isn't bundled with a game at the store.

I just checked around and the cores are sold out... wow.

The Daxter pack is a good deal considering for just $30 bucks you get a game, bunch of family guy episodes and a 1 gig stick.

Zanzibar
01-07-2008, 05:45 PM
Awesome! Now for $700 i can watch movies on a PSP!

God damn, that was funny.

Khash
01-07-2008, 05:52 PM
Awesome! Now for $700 i can watch movies on a PSP!
Awsome! You're a douche bag!

I know everyone on this site is hating on this thing like it's the worst idea ever but I think it's pretty damn amazing.

Slowpc
01-07-2008, 05:52 PM
But ... does it have to have the compressed version of the film on the disk or is it making a compressed version. If it is on the disk, does the company that releases it have to do it themselves?

These are the questions...

Xerxes
01-07-2008, 05:53 PM
Awesome! Now for $700 i can watch movies on a PSP!

I was soooo thinking that. $500, but it's still funny.

laggerific
01-07-2008, 05:54 PM
Now if I could put it on my ipod it would be worth something. Still...this is a cool tech. I just hate to see Sony win any leverage. They still need to pay for their incessant hubris.

Micasa
01-07-2008, 05:55 PM
I looked at the Die Hard movie, that had a 'digital copy' included, and noticed that it doesn't work with the PSP, iPod or Zune. So what's the point?

Now this will only be compatible with the PSP? Where's the incentive for any studio OTHER than Sony to enable this - unless there's a fee associated?

laggerific
01-07-2008, 05:56 PM
But ... does it have to have the compressed version of the film on the disk or is it making a compressed version. If it is on the disk, does the company that releases it have to do it themselves?

These are the questions...

It should damn well be able to rip it super fast. I mean, within the theoretical limits of the bluray speed. But then maybe Sony might have something to back up their claims of superiority. the bastards.

oldjadedgamer
01-07-2008, 05:56 PM
Now if I could put it on my ipod it would be worth something. Still...this is a cool tech. I just hate to see Sony win any leverage. They still need to pay for their incessant hubris.

Wouldn't that be so nice to buy a movie once and be able to easily transfer it to all your devices? Ahhh, we can dream can't we.

I looked at the Die Hard movie, that had a 'digital copy' included, and noticed that it doesn't work with the PSP, iPod or Zune. So what's the point?

Now this will only be compatible with the PSP? Where's the incentive for any studio OTHER than Sony to enable this - unless there's a fee associated?

Yeah, it will be up to the studio making the movie if they choose to support this feature so just like UMD movies, look for all Sony Pictures to support it first then roll the dice on every one else.

Gorvi
01-07-2008, 06:04 PM
This would be pretty nice. As it is now, the current program I use to convert movies for the PSP just takes too damn long to do it.

MSUStud911
01-07-2008, 06:05 PM
How much space will the movie take up? This won't be all that great if a movie maxes out a 4GB card.

Siraris
01-07-2008, 06:07 PM
I looked at the Die Hard movie, that had a 'digital copy' included, and noticed that it doesn't work with the PSP, iPod or Zune. So what's the point?

Now this will only be compatible with the PSP? Where's the incentive for any studio OTHER than Sony to enable this - unless there's a fee associated?

I think it works with more than the PSP. BD-Live is a huge new thing for Blu-Ray manufacturers. Panasonic and Fox are already showing BD-Live enabled players, and I don't think they are doing it just for the PSP.

Gorvi
01-07-2008, 06:08 PM
How much space will the movie take up? This won't be all that great if a movie maxes out a 4GB card.
Right now, an average movie takes up between 235 MB (Night Of The Living Dead, original) and 550 MB (FFVII Advent Children) converted at the higher quality with what I'm using. I can't see these taking up much more than that.

Adam Blue
01-07-2008, 06:22 PM
Awesome! Now for $700 i can watch movies on a PSP!

Way to reach out and spin this negatively. Keep on douchin'.

archon
01-07-2008, 06:24 PM
There's a new Aliens Vs. Predator multiplayer game?!?!

Xerxes
01-07-2008, 06:25 PM
Way to reach out and spin this negatively. Keep on douchin'.

But it's still close to the truth.

Mr.Green
01-07-2008, 06:42 PM
I think this is awesome. In a very geeky kind of way. Any chance this will work with DVDs as well?

Also, Gorvi, I'd like more details on that movie conversion of yours please.

Hatchetforce
01-07-2008, 06:43 PM
Good, Sony's still on track for making me want to buy a PSP slim. Now if I can just find one that isn't bundled with a game at the store.

I wanted the piano Black slim with no bindle so I had the local Gamestop manager check around and he found 6 and had one sent to the store for me.

oldjadedgamer
01-07-2008, 06:49 PM
Right now, an average movie takes up between 235 MB (Night Of The Living Dead, original) and 550 MB (FFVII Advent Children) converted at the higher quality with what I'm using. I can't see these taking up much more than that.

HandBrake works super fast for me when I'm putting DVD's on my PSP. What program are you using and how fast is your computer?

Adam Blue
01-07-2008, 06:50 PM
But it's still close to the truth.

How? It's an added feature to three different products. Added, optional feature. You have a Ps3? You have a PSP? Well, we'll let you put Blu-Ray movies on it.

Talking trash about a feature like that only makes someone look like a total fool. Although, I guess that's not saying much anymore.

Why do I even try here...

Gorvi
01-07-2008, 07:14 PM
HandBrake works super fast for me when I'm putting DVD's on my PSP. What program are you using and how fast is your computer?
I'm using XCopyPSP. I've been using it since I got the PSP, since there really wasn't a whole lot out a couple of years back. My PC is a bit old (2.5 Ghz, 504 MB RAM).

oldjadedgamer
01-07-2008, 07:16 PM
I'm using XCopyPSP. I've been using it since I got the PSP, since there really wasn't a whole lot out a couple of years back. My PC is a bit old (2.5 Ghz, 504 MB RAM).

You should try some of the other programs out, they have come a long way since the PSP was first released.

A full DVD movie will take me about 20 minutes.

rein
01-07-2008, 07:17 PM
Way to reach out and spin this negatively. Keep on douchin'.
Haven't you heard? It was funny. :rolleyes:


I think this is pretty cool news. It makes that premium price tag on BR disk a little easier to take for people who are interesting in the PSP.

Zanzibar
01-07-2008, 07:24 PM
Kinda silly to have to buy a Blu-ray disc in order to play on a format that has less quality than DVD.

Speaking of which, anyone know a good, easy DVD-to-iPod converter?

Hatchetforce
01-07-2008, 07:32 PM
How? It's an added feature to three different products. Added, optional feature. You have a Ps3? You have a PSP? Well, we'll let you put Blu-Ray movies on it.

Talking trash about a feature like that only makes someone look like a total fool. Although, I guess that's not saying much anymore.

Why do I even try here...

I was going to say I noticed he wasn't jumping up and down about the 360/Zune interconnectivity and special capabilitites but...


Kinda silly to have to buy a Blu-ray disc in order to play on a format that has less quality than DVD.

Speaking of which, anyone know a good, easy DVD-to-iPod converter?

If you travel to any degree, it is great to be able to take some flicks with you when you are bored. It is better than chatting with some fat lady from Peoria that wants to tell you about her grand kids and you can't stop staring at the spinach in her teeth, her big mole with the hairs on it, and the booger that keeps flipping back and forth in her left nostril threatening to launch itself at you in a fit of rage.

oldjadedgamer
01-07-2008, 07:41 PM
Kinda silly to have to buy a Blu-ray disc in order to play on a format that has less quality than DVD.

Speaking of which, anyone know a good, easy DVD-to-iPod converter?

HandBrake works like a charm. Plus, your not forced into a Windows version. They support Mac, Linux, and if you need to... Windows.

Rune_74
01-07-2008, 07:45 PM
I'm using XCopyPSP. I've been using it since I got the PSP, since there really wasn't a whole lot out a couple of years back. My PC is a bit old (2.5 Ghz, 504 MB RAM).

Dude you really need to increase your ram its slowin everything down....504mb? I'm running 3 gb here....

oldjadedgamer
01-07-2008, 07:46 PM
Dude you really need to increase your ram its slowin everything down....504mb? I'm running 3 gb here....

RAM is like toilet paper, you can never have too much.

Wraith
01-07-2008, 07:55 PM
Wait, is "BD Live" related to the Blu-ray to PSP conversion via PS3, or something totally unrelated?Part of the Blu-Ray’s specification includes the use of BD Live. BD Live allows a disc to check online each time it is inserted for new content to download. This content can be anything from movie trailers, actor info, or additional content. This extra content can even be viewed on the PS3 through a picture-in-picture mode. According to Major Nelson’s latest podcast, the Xbox 360’s HD DVD add-on will have similar functionality. I am unconvinced that this functionality will add anything to the next gen gaming experience that isn’t available through some form of an online marketplace.PS3 To Feature BD Live Technology (http://games.gearlive.com/playfeed/article/ps3-to-feature-bd-live-technology-07170550/) (July 2006)

As to the conversion to PSP, yes, this is a good thing, but will this be limited to the PS3 and PSP? Is the spec designed such that you can't rip Blu-ray discs on any other device without doing so illegally? Is Sony/Blu-ray group or the MPAA going after those who break Blu-ray encoding? I assume Sony's saying "yes, you can have a copy of this movie for personal use on a PSP, our benevolent gift to you. But if it's on anything other than a PSP, you're dead meat."

Philonious
01-07-2008, 08:04 PM
Good, Sony's still on track for making me want to buy a PSP slim. Now if I can just find one that isn't bundled with a game at the store.

I grabbed one right around Xmas at an EB in Montreal... I had to ask the clerks for it specifically, because they weren't on display at the front of the store (they only had the bundles and the original PSP up front).

Most of the added benefits of owning both a PSP and PS3 wouldn't be enough to make me pick either up, but they are damned cool. A lot of companies keep talking up 'connectivity' while not actually doing anything too interesting. Even though they've been available to those willing to bend the rules, it is nice to see that Sony is working on making many of the cooler features of the PSP available to everyone.

Grimmjow
01-07-2008, 08:05 PM
But it's still close to the truth.

Hey

I have to get to work tomorrow morning too bad I have to pay 20k for a car:rolleyes:

Yeti2005
01-07-2008, 08:07 PM
This is awesome news but I guarantee they'll screw it up with some crazy DRM.

Zanzibar
01-07-2008, 08:10 PM
If you travel to any degree, it is great to be able to take some flicks with you when you are bored. It is better than chatting with some fat lady from Peoria that wants to tell you about her grand kids and you can't stop staring at the spinach in her teeth, her big mole with the hairs on it, and the booger that keeps flipping back and forth in her left nostril threatening to launch itself at you in a fit of rage.
Oh, I agree entirely, my issue is that they're forcing you to use a 50gb Blu-ray disc to siphon out a 300mb low-res file that's even lower quality than a standard DVD. Couldn't they have this functionality with ANY DVD instead of giving another feature that forces people to re-buy their libraries for Blu-ray?

Adam Blue
01-07-2008, 08:24 PM
Oh, I agree entirely, my issue is that they're forcing you to use a 50gb Blu-ray disc to siphon out a 300mb low-res file that's even lower quality than a standard DVD. Couldn't they have this functionality with ANY DVD instead of giving another feature that forces people to re-buy their libraries for Blu-ray?

You still don't get it. They're not forcing you...they decided to give you an option.

torrefaction
01-07-2008, 08:25 PM
Pretty slick, overall. Nice feature if you already have both items. More of a loyal customer bonus than anything else.

Xerxes
01-07-2008, 08:47 PM
Hey

I have to get to work tomorrow morning too bad I have to pay 20k for a car:rolleyes:

Or you could take the bus.

Rune_74
01-07-2008, 08:58 PM
Hmmm I'm actually thinking of getting a psp....I think its f9inally got enough to get some interest.

Å®ÇTÌ¢ VåmÞ‡®Ë
01-07-2008, 09:50 PM
There's a new Aliens Vs. Predator multiplayer game?!?!

Glad I'm not the only one who thought that :)

I'm getting the white one for my Bday this month..Found it for 199 and a 4GB Pro Duo for 36 , with free shipping:eek:

This is just another straw for me to get a PS3, as she already wants on for Rock Band.

@Zanzibar:
Enjoy (http://howto.diveintomark.org/ipod-dvd-ripping-guide/)

Beelzebud
01-07-2008, 09:55 PM
Thats very nice of them to give people something to circumvent Blu-Ray's copy protection.

Hatchetforce
01-07-2008, 10:00 PM
Oh, I agree entirely, my issue is that they're forcing you to use a 50gb Blu-ray disc to siphon out a 300mb low-res file that's even lower quality than a standard DVD. Couldn't they have this functionality with ANY DVD instead of giving another feature that forces people to re-buy their libraries for Blu-ray?


I would say it is entirely possible. But I am going to side with The Man on this. We all know who The Man is, right? John Carmack. He spoke at great length about the issues engendered by scalability. Sometimes in order to achieve next gen you have to be willing to say, "We aren't trying to screw anyone but we can't produce the engine we want AND have it be scalable. Sometimes for the sake of advances you have to bite the bullet."

Sony may indeed be borrowing some of that modus operandi. And this might very well be another attempt to force Bluray technology into the public hands and homes.

Now I am not trying to be a prick. Please don't take it that way but I say, so what. This wouldn't be necessary but there is a format and console war and HD DVD doesn't want to lie down and die. Neither does the DS - I think that's a given - nor does Microsoft. While this approach does have it's downside, it is a huge win win for Sony. They are promoting the value of an entire package. The PSP, PS3, and Bluray.

DarkDaY
01-07-2008, 11:16 PM
too cool, getting my ps3 this week hopefully, time to dust off my psp me thinks.

movies movies movies.

Chainblast
01-08-2008, 12:03 AM
Whoa...this just trippled my interest in one.

I hear that.

Morratut
01-08-2008, 12:12 AM
I might be interested in picking up a PSP for this. Sounds like a cool feature.

Hatchetforce
01-08-2008, 12:27 AM
I might be interested in picking up a PSP for this. Sounds like a cool feature.


Here is another reason: Street Fighter Alpha for PS3 and PSP:


http://www.pspfanboy.com/2008/01/06/esrb-street-fighter-alpha-coming-soon-to-psp-ps3/

Xerxes
01-08-2008, 01:04 AM
Here is another reason: Street Fighter Alpha for PS3 and PSP:


http://www.pspfanboy.com/2008/01/06/esrb-street-fighter-alpha-coming-soon-to-psp-ps3/

But I have Street Fighter Alpha 3 MAX... Why is it being pumped up?

Gorvi
01-08-2008, 01:39 AM
You should try some of the other programs out, they have come a long way since the PSP was first released.

A full DVD movie will take me about 20 minutes.
I need to try that. I really don't watch movies on the PSP that often, I'm always playing a game on the thing, but it'd be nice if the option were a bit more convenient. Here's a question: with DVD collections of a TV series, does it seperate them into chapter breaks with that program? That alone would be really useful.
Dude you really need to increase your ram its slowin everything down....504mb? I'm running 3 gb here....
Oh, I probably should, but it doesn't run slow during normal use. Hell, the PC is 5 years old and I've done next to nothing to it. That said, yeah, it could probably use more RAM. :)

Ancalagon
01-08-2008, 01:46 AM
I'm sure the MPAA will like this.

Although, if you are watching a movie on such a tiny screen, would you really notice a difference between SD DVD and Blu Ray? Is there something I'm missing here? Why not do this with regular DVD?

agentgray
01-08-2008, 07:19 AM
I get the feeling that the next PSP (Which we may see this year, seriously.) will not have a UMD drive but will use memory sticks.

...which would be freakin' awesome!

Mr.Green
01-08-2008, 07:36 AM
I'm sure the MPAA will like this.

Although, if you are watching a movie on such a tiny screen, would you really notice a difference between SD DVD and Blu Ray? Is there something I'm missing here? Why not do this with regular DVD?

Legal reasons most likely. Sony owns the Blu Ray format.

vherub
01-08-2008, 08:29 AM
Will it be free?
I'd rather sony devote resources to allow me to purchase/download movies/games directly off the psp via wifi

oldjadedgamer
01-08-2008, 09:01 AM
I need to try that. I really don't watch movies on the PSP that often, I'm always playing a game on the thing, but it'd be nice if the option were a bit more convenient. Here's a question: with DVD collections of a TV series, does it seperate them into chapter breaks with that program? That alone would be really useful.

Oh yeah, it makes each episode a separate file and you can rename them so it's easier to see what each one is. I'm currently watching the first season of the A-Team on my PSP.

Zanzibar
01-08-2008, 09:16 AM
You still don't get it. They're not forcing you...they decided to give you an option.
...but only for Blu-ray. They could EASILY allow it for standard DVDs, but they're not going to. Thus, if you want the feature of transferring movies to your PSP, you can't use your existing PS3 and DVDs (even though the PSP runs at a LOWER RESOLUTION than standard DVDs), you need to re-buy your movies in the Blu-ray format.

How exactly am I not 'getting it'?

oldjadedgamer
01-08-2008, 09:21 AM
...but only for Blu-ray. They could EASILY allow it for standard DVDs, but they're not going to. Thus, if you want the feature of transferring movies to your PSP, you can't use your existing PS3 and DVDs (even though the PSP runs at a LOWER RESOLUTION than standard DVDs), you need to re-buy your movies in the Blu-ray format.

How exactly am I not 'getting it'?

I do agree, it really is inexcusable that DVDs didn't already work like this. (without outside third party software)

Redline
01-08-2008, 09:28 AM
I still just want a PSP for Ghosts and Goblins and homebrew. :D

KidCactus
01-08-2008, 09:32 AM
...but only for Blu-ray. They could EASILY allow it for standard DVDs, but they're not going to.
But do we know it's actually encoding the movie on the fly in the PS3?

Edit: From the Engadget live blog (http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/07/live-from-the-blu-ray-interactivity-demo/) from the Sony/Blu-ray event:

11:52 - VP of ad Don Eckland takes the stage and joins the panel. Says that 2008 will take it to a new level because of the network connection and will make it a more powerful device. They will be able to send ringtones from disc straight to a cell phone. Portable copy means a copy of a movie for the PS3 will be included on a Blu-ray disc and possibly games too. They are sending a Godzilla ring tone to a "shills" mobile phone -- Leonard knows all the lingo. Now they are copying to a PS3, but Don seems to have forgotten the password.

11:57 - Now we're all watching the clip on a PSP.

I guess they mean PSP in the first quote too though.

Gorvi
01-08-2008, 09:55 AM
Oh yeah, it makes each episode a separate file and you can rename them so it's easier to see what each one is. I'm currently watching the first season of the A-Team on my PSP.
Cool, I really need to get that then. Is it a free download or something you need to purchase?

oldjadedgamer
01-08-2008, 10:00 AM
Cool, I really need to get that then. Is it a free download or something you need to purchase?

HandBrake is free:

http://handbrake.fr/

KidCactus
01-08-2008, 10:03 AM
HandBrake is free:

http://handbrake.fr/
Awesome app, and I love that it really uses all four cores on my Mac Pro to the max when encoding.

Gorvi
01-08-2008, 10:07 AM
HandBrake is free:

http://handbrake.fr/
Nice, I'll be downloading that tonight when I get home. Thank you very much!

Furtive
01-08-2008, 10:39 AM
Awesome! Now for $700 i can watch movies on a PSP!
Okay I don't really hate the idea as much as the troll comment makes me sound. I realize Sony is just pimping Sony here which is what any corporation does, but I just wish it was a little more open. Let me rip it to work on a variety of players. This is a step in the right direction as I can see more manufacturers trying to get into the same arena but until then it's completely worthless to me. And of course if this idea doesn't spread to more devices then we can all just go back to ripping DVDs.

Phades
01-08-2008, 11:05 AM
It's ridiculous how yet again people can spin this as a bad thing. There is no way to negatively spin this that isn't asinine. The most that can be said is that it doesn't do YOU any good, and that doesn't make it bad.

Why SHOULD Sony make this work with regular dvd's? Their whole point is to use it as a tool to help further push their products (Blu-Ray disc, PS3, and PSP).

oldjadedgamer
01-08-2008, 11:09 AM
It's ridiculous how yet again people can spin this as a bad thing. There is no way to negatively spin this that isn't asinine. The most that can be said is that it doesn't do YOU any good, and that doesn't make it bad.

Why SHOULD Sony make this work with regular dvd's? Their whole point is to use it as a tool to help further push their products (Blu-Ray disc, PS3, and PSP).

Isn't Sony a part of the DVD group and doesn't also Sony own movie studios? How does it not "push their products" to take Spiderman 3 on DVD, put it in my PS3, to convert to my PSP?

And don't forget, all the SDF will remind you over and over again that Sony doesn't own Blu-Ray.

Phades
01-08-2008, 01:26 PM
Isn't Sony a part of the DVD group and doesn't also Sony own movie studios? How does it not "push their products" to take Spiderman 3 on DVD, put it in my PS3, to convert to my PSP?

And don't forget, all the SDF will remind you over and over again that Sony doesn't own Blu-Ray.

It's true that Sony doesn't solely own Blu-Ray (it's a consortium of 9 major companies: Sony, Hitachi, LG, Matsushita, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, and Thomson) but they're heavily invested in it so it behooves them to push it at every opportunity. They're trying to get people to transition away from DVD and on to Blu-Ray. By making this Blu-Ray only, that's one more bullet on the feature list they can advertise.

If you head to the store to buy Spiderman 3, Sony would rather you bought it on Blu-Ray.

Micasa
01-08-2008, 01:44 PM
By making this Blu-Ray only, that's one more bullet on the feature list they can advertise.

So there's no real reason to no do this with DVD as well, they're just doing it to drive adoption of their new standard.

Seems kind of like the whole Vista thing, with people getting so up in arms about Microsoft 'forcing' you to upgrade.

Phades
01-08-2008, 01:51 PM
they're just doing it to drive adoption of their new standard.

How dare they want to increase the incentive for people to buy their new stuff.

ElPresidente
01-08-2008, 03:46 PM
..... so now Sony is just saying it's "ok" to do something pretty much everyone with a PSP has been doing for years now. I was putting full movies on my PSP the day I bought it.

The thing I see as new is needing a PS3 instead of a computer to do it.

Well it is new in so far as this is currently nigh on impossible to do without a PC with a bluray drive in it. It is useful for those of us who have been buying all our new releases on bluray.

oldjadedgamer
01-08-2008, 04:15 PM
Well it is new in so far as this is currently nigh on impossible to do without a PC with a bluray drive in it. It is useful for those of us who have been buying all our new releases on bluray.

What I guess I left out in my post is that you can put DVD movies on your PSP. And If you are posting here on EA, then you have a computer to put a movie on your PSP and have had that option for years now.

Zanzibar
01-08-2008, 04:47 PM
What I guess I left out in my post is that you can put DVD movies on your PSP. And If you are posting here on EA, then you have a computer to put a movie on your PSP and have had that option for years now.

I think the quote above shows that they're talking about packaging an already-compressed version on the Blu-ray disc itself, so there's no time wasted for performing the compression. It's just a download, which will take significantly less time.

Hey, for the Handbrake users, I downloaded it last night and it worked great. What settings do you use for optimal quality vs. file size? I used 'standard ipod low-res (320)' and it's 900mb for 'The Blues Brothers'. Is around 1gb for a movie about right?

51|RandoM
01-08-2008, 04:57 PM
So there's no real reason to no do this with DVD as well, they're just doing it to drive adoption of their new standard.

Seems kind of like the whole Vista thing, with people getting so up in arms about Microsoft 'forcing' you to upgrade.

that is a real reason to them.

the difference between this and vista is that you don't have to worry about support for a dvd disappearing.

it is a nice feature. I would make use of it if I bought BD movies.

51|RandoM
01-08-2008, 04:58 PM
And If you are posting here on EA, then you have a computer to put a movie on your PSP and have had that option for years now.

not for sure. there are any number of web-capable devices that they could be using to post here. heck, they could be using a psp or ps3.

brokenFUN
01-08-2008, 07:07 PM
Arrrrggggg!!! You Are A Pirate!!

ElPresidente
01-08-2008, 07:53 PM
What I guess I left out in my post is that you can put DVD movies on your PSP. And If you are posting here on EA, then you have a computer to put a movie on your PSP and have had that option for years now.

You're missing my point. If I go out and buy a bluray title that I don't already have on DVD I can't get it to my PSP.

See what I'm getting at?

It basically means that Bluray now offers the same advantages to PSP/PS3 owners that DVD did.

At the moment if I only have a bluray version of a title I can only play it on my bluray player (PS3).

Hatchetforce
01-09-2008, 07:59 PM
Bluray to PSP. How it works:

http://gizmodo.com/342980/everything-you-wanted-to-know-about-blu+ray+to+psp-movie-transfers


When we heard about Blu-ray-to-PSP movie transfers getting all official we got pretty excited, even though the announcement was a little skimpy on the details: How big are the files? How long will it take to download a movie? How odious is the DRM? Most importantly, when? Well, we've got 'em all right here.

The deets: The movies are around 1GB (standard def and PSP-optimized) and take about 3-5 minutes to download via USB to the Memory Stick Duo in your PSP. Currently, the idea is that they aren't stored locally on your PS3. Sony expects it to be available sometime this year—nothing more fine-grained than that timewise, unfortunately

The sweet news: For now, the plan is that the service will be free and it "can be used potentially on any Blu-ray movie title." Hopefully that means it'll be available for every Blu-ray title.

The potentially bleh news: Sony is still in the processing of reviewing how the DRM is going to work, and how portable the copies are going to be (important, since they're stored on Mem. Stick Duos, which are pretty pocketable.) In particular, the number of copies you can make from each disc is still up in the air—so it looks like how many friends you can share with is definitely going to be limited.

DRM-wise it's nothing unexpected—given Blu-ray's emphasis on strong copy protection, Sony's obviously not going to give free reign with the PSP copies. But even with some limits placed on the service, it stands to be one of the best PS3-PSP connections yet.