All PS1 games available through PSP Remote Play

[DiBiddilyBop]

Thrown into the latest firmware update (you'd think Sony might want to highlight this?), any PS1 game in the PS3 drive is now playable through remote play on the PSP. From the patch notes:

Playable via "Remote Play":
# PSone Game Discs <-- UPDATE!!!
* All PSone games are now playable with the original disc via remote play
o Requires:
+ PS3 Firmware 2.10, released 12-18-07

Iiiiiinteresting. Anyone try this out yet and can comment on any latency issues? I've heard through the grapevine that latency isn't an issue, but can any EvAvers confirm? I know I have a bunch of PS1 games collecting dust that I wouldn't mind spending time on while on the go.

[Kelegacy]

Wow, very cool.

[Dukefrukem]

this is cool, but my PS3 randomly disconnects from the internet (meaning it signs out of the PSN)... so if im away and want to play something, i doubt it will even work... anyone elses PS3 disconnect all the time when you're away? not in game i mean, but if i leave it on over night for folding

[ECM]

this is cool, but my PS3 randomly disconnects from the internet (meaning it signs out of the PSN)... so if im away and want to play something, i doubt it will even work... anyone elses PS3 disconnect all the time when you're away? not in game i mean, but if i leave it on over night for folding

Yeah, mine discos all the time (when logging in it times out; over night while folding; while DL'ing, etc.)

[BlackPete]

Interesting. This might even get me to buy a PSP, if I had more PS1 games to play. If this covered PS2 games as well (ha!), then I'd be all over this like flies on shit.

One thing I'm curious about: Since they removed BC, then you can't play PS1 games on the PS3, correct? So I imagine this means it simply streams data to your PSP via Remote Play? I smell a possible hack here somewhere...

[Dukefrukem]

Yeah, mine discos all the time (when logging in it times out; over night while folding; while DL'ing, etc.)

Well that sounds like you may have a NAT problem if youre disconnecting while DLing.

[Gorvi]

One thing I'm curious about: Since they removed BC, then you can't play PS1 games on the PS3, correct? So I imagine this means it simply streams data to your PSP via Remote Play? I smell a possible hack here somewhere...
Nah, PS1 games work on all PS3s, only PS2 BC was removed from the 40GB. This worked pretty well for me earlier, with very little lag.

[Lutheran]

I am pretty sure PS1 games work on all PS3 models

[DiBiddilyBop]

Nah, PS1 games work on all PS3s, only PS2 BC was removed from the 40GB. This worked pretty well for me earlier, with very little lag.

Good to hear it's working. I might have to pick up a second PSP so I can try it out. Not ready to give up my custom firmware on the one I have and I'm not about to try connecting to the PSN with it.

[Ix Quantum xI]

Very little lag for me. It was only slightly noticeable when I was playing Mortal Kombat Trilogy but there are options to reduce the image quality which made the lag go away.

[rainbowblack]

Sweet news, but many people still have all those great PSone games sitting around?
all i have are MGS and FFVII-IX

but then again, CFW. should I really care? >_>

[frederec]

Good to hear it's working. I might have to pick up a second PSP so I can try it out. Not ready to give up my custom firmware on the one I have and I'm not about to try connecting to the PSN with it.

No need to buy a second PSP. 2.80 has already been mostly decrypted. I wouldn't be surprised if an updated firmware shows up in the next few weeks (possibly faster, the way these guys seem to work).

[torrefaction]

Wow. I can't really think of any PS1 games that I'd really wanna replay at this point, but goddamn that's a cool feature.

[jpublic]

So, can someone give me a rundown on how remote play actually works? If this is as slick as it sounds, I may have to pick up a PS3 *and* a PSP.

[Ajguy]

I tried Mega Man X4 with the feature. It was pretty unplayable due to lag, but this could be great with turn based RPGs or slower paced games.

And who runs Sony?! Why wouldn't this be at the top of the press release?

[Ix Quantum xI]

So, can someone give me a rundown on how remote play actually works? If this is as slick as it sounds, I may have to pick up a PS3 *and* a PSP.

Basically remote play lets you control your PS3 from your PSP through any Wi-Fi connection. You can do anything on remote play that you could on your PS3 except for playing PS3 and PS2 games. One neat thing is you can let your PS3 connect to your computer to allow access to all your saved media then stream it to your PSP.

[Grimmjow]

All depends on your connection

Playing FF7(ps1) on my LE FF7 PSP SLim= Bliss!

[jpublic]

Basically remote play lets you control your PS3 from your PSP through any Wi-Fi connection. You can do anything on remote play that you could on your PS3 except for playing PS3 and PS2 games. One neat thing is you can let your PS3 connect to your computer to allow access to all your saved media then stream it to your PSP.

Slick. Which leads me to the next question: Anyone tried this from a non-local WiFi connection? I'm wondering how much port forwarding you'd have to do to get it to run from say a friend's house.

[DiBiddilyBop]

Slick. Which leads me to the next question: Anyone tried this from a non-local WiFi connection? I'm wondering how much port forwarding you'd have to do to get it to run from say a friend's house.

None (by my understanding). It's done through the PSN to set up the connection, so any open WiFi will work without port forwarding home or where you're at.

[jpublic]

None (by my understanding). It's done through the PSN to set up the connection, so any open WiFi will work without port forwarding home or where you're at.

Double slick. Sold. Now I just need to convince the wife to let me spend $600+ on game machines. :D

[kendog41]

yes! i can play rouge trip the most fun multiplayer game ever

[Xerxes]

Why do we have two threads for this?

http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41480

[DiBiddilyBop]

Why do we have two threads for this?

http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41480

It was posted in the forum and I thought it was newsworthy

[Xerxes]

It was posted in the forum and I thought it was newsworthy

:confused:
Yeah, they should be merged.

[Deadend]

Now that is pretty fucking cool.

The Remote Play with PS3-PSP is probably one of the coolest features around, as it can turn a PSP into a remote to control your PS3 which can get video from your server. All they need to add is a RSS-Bittorrent combo to autodownload TV shows, and a PS3, PSP and HDTV can be a 90% awesome Home Entertainment center.

No need to even change channels.

[TheEpicOfTyler]

I would love to play FFIX between classes at school.

I need money.

[51|RandoM]

FF IX is about the only PS1 game I'm interested in playing again. For the longest time I remembered it as a PS2 game because it was one of the first games I played in BC on that console.

[TheEpicOfTyler]

FF IX is about the only PS1 game I'm interested in playing again. For the longest time I remembered it as a PS2 game because it was one of the first games I played in BC on that console.

It's my favorite of the PS1 Final Fantasys. I've probably played through it 2-3 times. On my PS2 though, when I get to the last FMV's before the disc changes my PS2 will freeze for about 10 minutes before prompting me to change the disc (and usually cutting the FMV in half).

I wonder if that was only me, or if anyone else had that issue. I also wonder if the PS3 would do the same.

[Metal Jesus]

This is pretty damn cool. I have an original copy of Vagrant Story I have yet to play, and this would be the perfect way to do it.

[miah]

Am I the only person that noticed that they added "adjustment of voice pitch" in the "voice changer" settings? So, if by rare change you do end up playing a online game with somebody on PS3 and they happen to have a headset, they might sound annoying. Remember the XBOX had this feature and it was incredibly annoying.

[Snipee]

NM...dumb question

[DarkDaY]

K, so I have a ps3 finally coming, and I own a psp, there are many ps2 games I still want to play, but im not sure, and I dont have a choice, if its a 40, 80,60,20 gig. its brand new, so Im hoping for some bc..

this being said, is there no bc in the 40 at all? I can live with that as its kinda a gift, only paying 2 bills for it, if nothing else I get a good br player, get to play uncharted, and ff coming up if im so inclined and all others on the way.

also, is this patch telling me I can dl a ps1 game to my psp somehow? memory sitck?
drunk so not going through all the posts, sorry for being lazy if this has already been explained.

[KidCactus]

also, is this patch telling me I can dl a ps1 game to my psp somehow? memory sitck?
No, this update is about the PS3 running the PS1 game and streaming the audio/video to the PSP. Putting PS1 games on the PSP from the PS3 is also available, but that was done in an earlier update.

[DarkDaY]

No, this update is about the PS3 running the PS1 game and streaming the audio/video to the PSP. Putting PS1 games on the PSP from the PS3 is also available, but that was done in an earlier update.


cool cool, thanks, I understand the streaming, sounds very cool, not sure If i would need or use it, but great none the less.
The idea that I can put my ps1 games onto my ps3 to my psp is kick ass indeed.

I thought I needed to hack it for that.

[Gorvi]

cool cool, thanks, I understand the streaming, sounds very cool, not sure If i would need or use it, but great none the less.
The idea that I can put my ps1 games onto my ps3 to my psp is kick ass indeed.

I thought I needed to hack it for that.
Well, the only PS1 games you play off of the PS3 HDD are the games that you buy from Sony from the PlayStation Store. Any other PS1 games you need the disc in the system to play.

[FullTilt]

Speaking as a non-PS3 and PSP owner, this sounds to me like a case of both gilding the lilly and the emperor's new clothes.

My PC is a better web server than the PS3, it will do wake on LAN, automatic RSS downloads, etc, and I can use any internet-enabled device to stream media from it remotely, no PSP required. If I wanted to play games in an internet hotspot (why, I've no idea), I'd buy a DS or hacked PSP.

Cool feature I guess but really not that useful.

[Gorvi]

Speaking as a non-PS3 and PSP owner, this sounds to me like a case of both gilding the lilly and the emperor's new clothes.

My PC is a better web server than the PS3, it will do wake on LAN, automatic RSS downloads, etc, and I can use any internet-enabled device to stream media from it remotely, no PSP required. If I wanted to play games in an internet hotspot (why, I've no idea), I'd buy a DS or hacked PSP.

Cool feature I guess but really not that useful.
Well, if you're already using other devices for those things, of course it's not going to look like as big of a deal. The point is, as a feature, all of these things are useful, though. You can remotely wake up the PS3 with the PSP, the PSP has built in automatic RSS downloading (both audio and video), and you can not only stream all of your media on both your PS3 and PC to it from any WiFi hotspot, but now play games remotely with the PSP as well.

Here's a good example: I'm playing through Suikoden right now. With this, without having to mess with transferring save files over, I can now play it remotely from anywhere I can get WiFi and continue from the game that I was playing while at home.

[DarkDaY]

Speaking as a non-PS3 and PSP owner, this sounds to me like a case of both gilding the lilly and the emperor's new clothes.

My PC is a better web server than the PS3, it will do wake on LAN, automatic RSS downloads, etc, and I can use any internet-enabled device to stream media from it remotely, no PSP required. If I wanted to play games in an internet hotspot (why, I've no idea), I'd buy a DS or hacked PSP.

Cool feature I guess but really not that useful.

perhaps all this is true. I still fail to see how something added is bad news or
how you can find negative in it. If it wasnt there before, you loose nothing, if you have no need of any of it, you loose nothing, if you decide even one of the new features is useful even once, then it is a win, its free right.

[FullTilt]

I'm not knocking anything or saying it's bad news, I'm saying I fail to see much of a point to it and can't understand the apparent excitement around using a PS3 and PSP together to play PS1 games you long ago lost interest in. I don't see it selling either hardware or software in significant quantities and would rather they devoted their efforts to things such as emulating the GS in software for the 40Gb console, or in making a patch to let you mute everyone who's just discovered the new voice modifier ;)

[grevon]

I'm not knocking anything or saying it's bad news, I'm saying I fail to see much of a point to it and can't understand the apparent excitement around using a PS3 and PSP together to play PS1 games you long ago lost interest in.

I think the point is that some of us haven't lost interest in some of these games and Sony realizes it. I can't wait to play Vagrant Story again or finally finish Dragon Warrior VII while I've got down time at work. Of course, now that I've said that, someone's server is going to catch fire. :rolleyes:

[Fulsome]

I'm not knocking anything or saying it's bad news, I'm saying I fail to see much of a point to it and can't understand the apparent excitement around using a PS3 and PSP together to play PS1 games you long ago lost interest in. I don't see it selling either hardware or software in significant quantities and would rather they devoted their efforts to things such as emulating the GS in software for the 40Gb console, or in making a patch to let you mute everyone who's just discovered the new voice modifier ;)

How contradictory can you get?

The only bad news about this is that you need a PSP and a PS3 to get this to work. The fact that it's a free update and something that's never been done before (I hope I'm right here), is not exciting? I guess I'll be the first one to throw out the "which other gaming console does this?"

[Gorvi]

I'm not knocking anything or saying it's bad news, I'm saying I fail to see much of a point to it and can't understand the apparent excitement around using a PS3 and PSP together to play PS1 games you long ago lost interest in.
PS1 games I have lying around that I need to play and/or finish:

Arc The Lad 2
Arc The Lad 3
Chrono Cross
Dragon Warrior VII
Front Mission 3
Grandia
Kartia
Legend of Dragoon
Ogre Battle
Persona
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Saiyuki: Journey West
Suikoden
Suikoden 2
Tactics Ogre
Vagrant Story

Yeah, I have a PS1 backlog a mile long, so this is great for me. Hell, either way, I'll be playing PS1 games for the next 5 years, easily, especially with the way RPGs seem to be coming out slower and slower these days.

[TheFlyingOrc]

Well, if you're already using other devices for those things, of course it's not going to look like as big of a deal. The point is, as a feature, all of these things are useful, though. You can remotely wake up the PS3 with the PSP, the PSP has built in automatic RSS downloading (both audio and video), and you can not only stream all of your media on both your PS3 and PC to it from any WiFi hotspot, but now play games remotely with the PSP as well.

Here's a good example: I'm playing through Suikoden right now. With this, without having to mess with transferring save files over, I can now play it remotely from anywhere I can get WiFi and continue from the game that I was playing while at home.

Right, and as a "game continuer", this definitely does seem to be the ultimate feature. However, I think some people need to not get confused and think they've got a magic game server at all times that can instantly send them any of their PS1 games whenever they're bored - using this feature requires planning.

I'd say this is definitely quite cool but not going to be used very often after the first week or two of people trying it.

[TheFlyingOrc]

PS1 games I have lying around that I need to play and/or finish:

Arc The Lad 2
Arc The Lad 3
Chrono Cross
Dragon Warrior VII
Front Mission 3
Grandia
Kartia
Legend of Dragoon
Ogre Battle
Persona
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Saiyuki: Journey West
Suikoden
Suikoden 2
Tactics Ogre
Vagrant Story

Yeah, I have a PS1 backlog a mile long, so this is great for me. Hell, either way, I'll be playing PS1 games for the next 5 years, easily, especially with the way RPGs seem to be coming out slower and slower these days.

Yeah, I remember how much I loved RPGs before I grew out of them.
I'm kind of a dick, even IF RPGs are carefully constructed to be accessible by 14-year-olds

[Gorvi]

Right, and as a "game continuer", this definitely does seem to be the ultimate feature. However, I think some people need to not get confused and think they've got a magic game server at all times that can instantly send them any of their PS1 games whenever they're bored - using this feature requires planning.

I'd say this is definitely quite cool but not going to be used very often after the first week or two of people trying it.
Well, if Sony ever gets off of their collective asses and starts actually putting up PS1 games for download on a regular basis, the value of this would go up quite a bit, since you'd have access to all of those games on your PS3's HDD. Especially considering the fact that you can access the PS Store via Remote Play, you could just download a game remotely if you got the urge.
Yeah, I remember how much I loved RPGs before I grew out of them.
And grew into playing what that's more mature, exactly?

[TheFlyingOrc]

And grew into playing what that's more mature, exactly?
You fell for that bait - hook, line, and sinker. Notice the spoilertext in that post? ;)

But seriously, RPGs are perfectly fine, and were my preferred genre in my Super Nintendo days. However, as storytelling mediums, most undershoot R.A.Salvatore in terms of depth.

[Gorvi]

You fell for that bait - hook, line, and sinker. Notice the spoilertext in that post? ;)

But seriously, RPGs are perfectly fine, and were my preferred genre in my Super Nintendo days. However, as storytelling mediums, most undershoot R.A.Salvatore in terms of depth.
Boo, that wasn't there when I quoted! ;)

Nah, I've long since stopped playing most RPGs for their stories. Some still have their charm from time to time, but I mostly play them for character building, exploration, or general nostalgia these days. I'll still take a good strategy RPG any day of the week, though.

[jacktion]

This sounds cool. But do you have to leave your PS3 on while you are away from home with a PS1 game running in the drive? Does that seem excessive? Something about it feels wrong, kind of like leaving home with the oven on.
Plus this probably uses a ton of energy just to play an old PS1 game on your PSP while at work.
The most elegant solution would be if Sony would let you put a PS1 disc in the PS3. It rips the info and sends it wirelessly to your PSP in one go, then you can play it on your PSP as long as you want. That would be awesome.

[Gorvi]

This sounds cool. But do you have to leave your PS3 on while you are away from home with a PS1 game running in the drive? Does that seem excessive? Something about it feels wrong, kind of like leaving home with the oven on.
Plus this probably uses a ton of energy just to play an old PS1 game on your PSP while at work.
You do have to leave the disc in the PS3 if you're not playing a game that's on the HDD, but you don't have to leave your PS3 on, since you can turn it on/off via Remote Play now.

[51|RandoM]

I'm not knocking anything or saying it's bad news, I'm saying I fail to see much of a point to it and can't understand the apparent excitement around using a PS3 and PSP together to play PS1 games you long ago lost interest in. I don't see it selling either hardware or software in significant quantities and would rather they devoted their efforts to things such as emulating the GS in software for the 40Gb console, or in making a patch to let you mute everyone who's just discovered the new voice modifier ;)

You are not interested in the features. Great. Doesn't change the fact that some people are.

The 40GB unit doesn't have BC to save costs. Turning around and spending those savings on software emulation makes no sense.

You don't need a patch to mute players, you can already do that.

[torrefaction]

PS1 games I have lying around that I need to play and/or finish:

Arc The Lad 2
Arc The Lad 3
Chrono Cross
Dragon Warrior VII
Front Mission 3
Grandia
Kartia
Legend of Dragoon
Ogre Battle
Persona
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Saiyuki: Journey West
Suikoden
Suikoden 2
Tactics Ogre
Vagrant Story

Yeah, I have a PS1 backlog a mile long, so this is great for me. Hell, either way, I'll be playing PS1 games for the next 5 years, easily, especially with the way RPGs seem to be coming out slower and slower these days.

Holy crap. I wanna play almost all those games.

[Purple Santa]

Well, if you're already using other devices for those things, of course it's not going to look like as big of a deal. The point is, as a feature, all of these things are useful, though. You can remotely wake up the PS3 with the PSP, the PSP has built in automatic RSS downloading (both audio and video), and you can not only stream all of your media on both your PS3 and PC to it from any WiFi hotspot, but now play games remotely with the PSP as well.

Here's a good example: I'm playing through Suikoden right now. With this, without having to mess with transferring save files over, I can now play it remotely from anywhere I can get WiFi and continue from the game that I was playing while at home.

This was a great example, thanks. I really want to take advantage of this feature but like someone said earlier, if you don't have many PS1 discs laying around...sigh...so I wish Sony would put more PS1 games on PSN. There were a ton of games I didn't get to play and still worth playing.

Edit: Just saw Gorvi's list, i'll play those too :)