Metallica to Premiere New Song....in ROCK BAND?

[bakes73]

I am on the fence on this one. I love Metallica...but hated St. Anger

Anyway....from Ultimate Guitar (http://www.evilavatar.com/http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/metallica_to_premiere_new_song_in_rock_band.html)

Metallica are in talks to premiere the first single from their next studio album on a new version of the Rock Band video game.

MTV senior vice president of home entertainment, Paul DeGooyer, made the announcement that Rock Band manufacturer Harmonix and MTV are planning to premier a string of new songs on updated versions of the hit computer game, the biggest draw of which is Metallica.

He told Rocky Mountain News: "There are a couple of things we've committed to, one of them with Metallica for example. They've reserved the right to give us their first single from their new album for the game."

Apart from this golden nugget of information, there’s no hint of what the track is called or when it will see the light of day. Metallica are currently holed up in the studio working on their ninth studio record. Metallica fans are like battered wives...we keep getting hit in the face and yet still go back to them...

[CaptStu]

I gave up on Metallica a long time ago.

[Mortis]

I like the two new songs they have played live. St. Anger was shit but the new album might be decent, nothing close to old Metallica though.

[Kamalot]

I love that Rock Band is now starting to be seen as a real platform for music, and that groups like Metallica are taking it seriously. But I, like CaptStu, have given up on Metallica.

[shunoshi]

Metallica died shortly after the self-titled album was released. Everyone knows this. So as far as this little piece DLC is concerned, count me out.

[Bydo_Empire]

Everything between Justice and St. Anger was pretty weak, but St. Anger really grew on me. I don't like half the album, but the other half has given me hope. Frantic is a great song to run to.

[bakes73]

I love that Rock Band is now starting to be seen as a real platform for music, and that groups like Metallica are taking it seriously. But I, like CaptStu, have given up on Metallica.


This is the more exciting aspect of this for me too. While Metallica may not be the band they used to be, they are still a powerful force in the biz and it is exciting to think about what the future holds for gaming and music.

[Beelzebud]

Cliff Burton rolls in his grave.

[Psykoboy2]

Yeah, i couldn't care less on this as far as the band is concerned. BUT...to have a new single debut IN THE GAME is fucking awesome.

[bakes73]

Cliff Burton rolls in his grave.

I disagree...although admit no will one will ever be sure. Everything I have ever read about Cliff points to him being a person who would have at the very least entertained this idea as a means of forwarding the music into another frontier.

Again, this is coming from a simple fan who has read a lot on the band's history and of Cliff Burton, however, it is only my opinion.

[YoungAlCapone]

Metallica has not bee the same since Justice...

[OmegaVader]

a "new version" of Rock Band? as in a sequel? was hoping they'd push this platform without a sequel for a long while...

[Typical_Michael]

Metallica has not been the same since Justice...

Someone gets it!

[Mdot23]

This is damn cool. I could care less about the song, but the fact that it's happening at all is awesome.

[Disgustipated]

This isn't a big surprise. Apparently there was a hidden AFI track in Guitar Hero III that was just revealed. Radio stations here in San Fran have been playing it.

AFI sucks ass though, but it's still interesting.

[Roc Ingersol]

a "new version" of Rock Band? as in a sequel? was hoping they'd push this platform without a sequel for a long while...This is Metallica we're talking about. It took them almost 3 years to squeeze out St Anger. And you know they weren't spending that time on slick production values.

[OSX]

Does it make anyone else uncomfortable when old media refers to these types of things as "computer games"?

Im not sure why, but it always makes me just shake my head at their antiquated worldview. Its not so much my desire for them to be "hip" or "with it", more just that this lack of precision bares their ignorance so blatantly.

[YoungAlCapone]

Someone gets it!

It is a shame too, as that was thier best as far as I am concerned. Though everything that predates it is still really good.

[Sandman]

St. Anger was quite possibly the biggest piece of turd Metallica could have released.....nowhere to go but up from here.

[Maskatron]

Isn't Rick Rubin producing the new one? I'm also in the "haven't been interested in Metallica since Justice" crowd, but I'm still a bit curious about how that collaboration is going to turn out.

[baggle]

I think we'll be seeing more and more of this type of cross-promotion and value-added type stuff in the entertainment industries as the big companies (slowwwwly) move towards new, more future-friendly business models. While I agree that it's exciting because it's so new right now, I could see this getting annoying pretty quickly.

Sure, everyone loves the Metallica/etc classics, and they are a safe bet as popular crowd pleasers on these games, but that's because they're classics. I'd hate to get a new crappy St. Anger-esque single that promotes an equally crappy new album instead of Creeping Death or some other equally awesome track just because the marketing/financial departments for both companies think it's a great idea (which it is, from a financial perspective). After the shininess and newness fades, I think we'll still be craving Creeping Death and be irritated at the commercial factor of this decision to include a money maker track rather than a more popularly known crowd pleasing classic, which has been the standard until now.

[Mdot23]

Isn't Rick Rubin producing the new one? I'm also in the "haven't been interested in Metallica since Justice" crowd, but I'm still a bit curious about how that collaboration is going to turn out.

I had no idea about that. Rick Rubin rules. Maybe there is hope.

[iPlay_nada]

Cliff Burton rolls in his grave.

and then Dave Mustaine calls Newsted and says "WTF?"

[GunnyMo]

Metallica fans are like battered wives...we keep getting hit in the face and yet still go back to them...

Ain't that the fucking truth. I do like a couple songs from St. Anger but otherwise it's not much. You could say they are mellowing with age but when bands like Slayer can still blow your doors off with high intensity metal, that gives little excuse to Metallica.

[Gedd]

Metallica fans are like battered wives...we keep getting hit in the face and yet still go back to them...

Lol, maybe some of you, but it was over when the Black album (Bob Rock's album) got released.

I remember the day Enter Sandman premiered on MTV, it was like the president getting shot, I will always remember where I was and what I was doing on that day because of how much that video/song sucked. Kill em all (metal up your ass), RTL, Puppets and Justice (and also g-days re-revisited).. that was Metallica; Bob Rock turned them into posers.

[Sandman]

Isn't Rick Rubin producing the new one? I'm also in the "haven't been interested in Metallica since Justice" crowd, but I'm still a bit curious about how that collaboration is going to turn out.

That's news to me Rubin kicks Bob Rock's ass any day.

[Slack3r78]

http://badstanger.ytmnd.com/

[Wolvie]

It better not be another St. Anger, that whole album sucked balls... And I bought it like an idiot. They won't trick me this time, imma check the internets to see if it sucks before I buy.

[Sandman]

St. Anger is the Highlander II of Metallica albums : it never existed.

[tenchiker]

Master of Puppets owns Justice.

[YoungAlCapone]

I remember the day Enter Sandman premiered on MTV, it was like the president getting shot, I will always remember where I was and what I was doing on that day because of how much that video/song sucked.

I cannot remember the day exactly, but I do remember everyone banging thier heads and going batshit insane for the song, and thinking that the song sucked and I must be in some bizarro world or something.

I played "Enter Sandman" with a couple of friends at the 8th grade talent show, in fact the drummer is now my roommate. I wanted to play Dyer's Eve, but we had to play something that people would know.

[Goronmon]

Master of Puppets owns Justice.I wouldn't say "owns" but I prefer it. In fact, I consider Orion to be their best song.

[vivafletcher]

I guess I'm the one guy who thought St. Anger was pretty decent. It sounded like a garage band-produced indie release, or a band's thrashing rehearsal. It was raw and designed to irritate anyone who wanted a radio-friendly release.

I like it a lot better than a slick ballad or harmony song. I'm not sure why people who like their earlier, non-commercial stuff hated it. I'm not saying it was their best, but it wasn't bad at all. But like I said, the jury is in and most folks couldn't stand it.

I think it's cool to release a song in a game. It's good for the gaming industry, and that's good for us.

[atariv8]

Blackened is the end...

Yeah Bob Rock also killed The Cult. Rick Rubin has been producing the new Slayer albums and they kick ass, so maybe there is hope.

[Sandman]

I guess I'm the one guy who thought St. Anger was pretty decent. It sounded like a garage band-produced indie release, or a band's thrashing rehearsal. It was raw and designed to irritate anyone who wanted a radio-friendly release.

I like it a lot better than a slick ballad or harmony song. I'm not sure why people who like their earlier, non-commercial stuff hated it. I'm not saying it was their best, but it wasn't bad at all. But like I said, the jury is in and most folks couldn't stand it.

I think it's cool to release a song in a game. It's good for the gaming industry, and that's good for us.

More like it was designed to irritate anyone with a working eardrum. I think Lars was banging on trash cans; Kirk was lazy as hell and did no solos; James sounded like he was sick the whole time; there was NO bass. Do I need to go on?

[Mortis]

Kirk was lazy as hell and did no solos

Actually Kirk was pissed that Bob Rock and Lars decided there should be no solos. There are solos on the new album.

[VictorVonViolence]

I'll laugh if this is free downloadable content.

wooooo hypocrisy!

[Deunnero]

The fact that it is gonna be in RB, as a premiere is gonna be a big selling point for my lady, she is a big fan! So that's good.

As far as the next album goes, regardless of all past dissapointments, will indeed be purchased upon it's release.

[Dirty Harry]

Ain't that the fucking truth. I do like a couple songs from St. Anger but otherwise it's not much. You could say they are mellowing with age but when bands like Slayer can still blow your doors off with high intensity metal, that gives little excuse to Metallica.

Well to be fair, while Slayer still "rocks", i find that Dave Arroyos voice has been crunched and is unable to hit notes like he used to be able too. I dunno he sounds so worn out in the past few years.

[Mortis]

Well to be fair, while Slayer still "rocks", i find that Dave Arroyos voice has been crunched and is unable to hit notes like he used to be able too. I dunno he sounds so worn out in the past few years.

Tom Araya sings for Slayer. I thought Christ Illusion was great, he sounded good to me on that album. He does have issues live though, running out of breath and such heh.

[jpublic]

Signs your band is going to the dumps: They need THERAPY to continue as a viable enterprise, and freaking FILM it.

[DarkDaY]

great band in the 80, time to let it go, LET IT GO.

go be grandpas

[Esquilax1138]

Iron Maiden are far superior to Metallica, Maiden's last 3 CD's were all amazing, kick ass albums, and their live show has never been better. Maiden >> Metallica, hands down.

[Captain Awesome]

What a sad, sad, band of sober men they have become.

[beefyjr]

People also forget that Rick Rubin does work with the Dixie Chicks, and that a lot of people that used to work with him (the Beastie Boys and Glenn Danzig come immediately to mind) think he's a fucking scumbag. And that when he did the first Black Crows record, he wanted them to change their name to the Kobb Kounty Krows. And they were like, "But that spells out KKK," and he was like "Exactly."

So for those who are holding out hope that there might be a good Metallica album on the horizon, all I'll say is that it's nice to want something.

Regardless of the fact that Metallica has been terrible since Justice (and the St. Anger snare sound is fucking unlistenable), if this comes to fruition it will be a big deal. I just really hope that Harmonix keeps delivering DLC and doesn't make us rebuy the game on a disc every year.

[RUSKULL]

All the haters seem to forget that no matter what, Metallica's music still kicks more ass than anything coming out today. You know it's true.

[agentgray]

My guess, knowing Lars, is that you'll have to pay per play and listen while wearing headphones.

[beefyjr]

All the haters seem to forget that no matter what, Metallica's music still kicks more ass than anything coming out today. You know it's true.

I don't know. I could think of a lot of current bands that, in my opinion, would tear Metallica's collective face off.

[Captain Awesome]

All the haters seem to forget that no matter what, Metallica's music still kicks more ass than anything coming out today. You know it's true.

Then you probably haven't heard much of today's music. It's telling when their new stuff will debut in a videogame.

Maybe they can start working on a Metallica game console that you feed quarters into anytime you want to play one of their titles.

[Zander]

Anything after Justice doesn't matter and should not be. Pun intended.

Release Master of Puppets full album download for RB and I'd hit that.

[Captain Awesome]

Since Rick Rubin is going back to work with them again (for some reason) he need to remaster AJFA and put the bass guitar in it.

[Roc Ingersol]

Then you probably haven't heard much of today's music. It's telling when their new stuff will debut in a videogame.Actually, that would suggest to me that they are finally starting to 'get it'.

Where else would they 'debut' a new single to get exposure?
On the radio? On MTV?

Given the participatory nature of the digital culture, ROCK BAND is one of the better places to get attention. That is, if you're against the idea of a Radiohead-style mp3 release.

[Maskatron]

Since Rick Rubin is going back to work with them again (for some reason) he need to remaster AJFA and put the bass guitar in it.

And do something about those "clicky" drum sounds.

[MojoJojo]

Will they be producing a snare peripheral to go with it, along with a lead guitar volume minimizer?

[oldjadedgamer]

All the haters seem to forget that no matter what, Metallica's music still kicks more ass than anything coming out today. You know it's true.

Metallica died with Cliff Burton.

[Laughing_Penguin]

For what it's worth, i've heard two early studio tracks off the new album (they've played them in concert as well): "Vulturous" and "Death is Not The End". They are both pretty bad. The chorus of Vulturous is Hetfield wailing "Whooooah" about 8 times. Pretty painful, actually. The lyrics on Death is Not the End are fairly awful as well.

I can't speak for the new producer, but if the new singles are any indication... ouch. St. Anger II.

[Laughing_Penguin]

On another note, I really hope that if they really are debuing the single this way, that it will be a free download. Pretty shitty if they decide that the fans will actually have to BUY the single unheard in order to 'preview' the new album.

[Speed_D]

Someone gets it!
NAPSTER BAD!

[Smoof]

*twitch*

Don't do it Smoof...

Hold yourself back. No need to throw down the Metal gauntlet.

*twitch*

[protocol_image]

i think every metallica album has been worth owning.....and yes, i loved st anger

it's like you people are against a band deviating from their original formula that made them a success........would you like an example of a metal band that hasn't changed at all? Godsmack......first album was awesome, and all the rest was just rehashes

i'm also a big Tool fan, and every album they put out is different.....you can see how they grow both musically and in life.....but i'm going to assume that most of you people on here will say "fuck Tool", or "Aenema was their last good album"......so i don't really think you'd be capable of enjoying the mutation of metallica going from metal to hard rock to raw-hard-rock

"they should only play metal for the rest of their lives! yeah!!!".....well if you want to hear Metallica play some speed metal, they've already recorded that.....go listen to it again......their first 3 albums are STILL fucking fantastic.....if you hate their new stuff, you can STILL listen to the old stuff you loved so much.....and i have to assume you did love them once, or else where are these feelings of hatred and betrayal coming from?

fucking bandwagon fans......i was a metallica fan in 1985......i am a metallica fan today

[blackzc]

And do something about those "clicky" drum sounds.

The marching snare sound, ahh i loved it. especially in ONE, it gave it that military feel.

[Smoof]

i think every metallica album has been worth owning.....and yes, i loved st anger

it's like you people are against a band deviating from their original formula that made them a success........would you like an example of a metal band that hasn't changed at all? Godsmack......first album was awesome, and all the rest was just rehashes

i'm also a big Tool fan, and every album they put out is different.....you can see how they grow both musically and in life.....but i'm going to assume that most of you people on here will say "fuck Tool", or "Aenema was their last good album"......so i don't really think you'd be capable of enjoying the mutation of metallica going from metal to hard rock to raw-hard-rock

"they should only play metal for the rest of their lives! yeah!!!".....well if you want to hear Metallica play some speed metal, they've already recorded that.....go listen to it again......their first 3 albums are STILL fucking fantastic.....if you hate their new stuff, you can STILL listen to the old stuff you loved so much.....and i have to assume you did love them once, or else where are these feelings of hatred and betrayal coming from?

fucking bandwagon fans......i was a metallica fan in 1985......i am a metallica fan today

Would you like me to start with Godsmack not being a metal band, or would you like me to start at the point when Metallica said they'd never sell out?

[Bahamut]

All the haters seem to forget that no matter what, Metallica's music still kicks more ass than anything coming out today. You know it's true.

Let's name a few albums from the past 5 years that prove you wrong

Angra - Rebirth
Angra - Temple of the Shadows
Angra - Aurora Consurgens
Symphony X - Paradise Lost
Ayreon - The Human Equation
Kamelot - The Black Halo
Dream Theater - Octavarium
Gamma Ray - Majestic
Demons & Wizards - Touched By The Crimson King

And this is only dipping into two subgenres of metal, and a small part of them. Some of these bands are far more relevant today, and it still boggles my mind how Metallica still has so many fans that only listen to them with regards to metal with what's out there in metal across the board today.

[protocol_image]

Would you like me to start with Godsmack not being a metal band,
fair enough
or would you like me to start at the point when Metallica said they'd never sell out?
you should start here.....do explain.....in the meantime, you might find these lyrics enlightening...


Tool - "Hooker With a Penis"

I met a boy wearing vans, 501s, and a
Dope beastie t, nipple rings, and
New tattoos that claimed that he
Was ogt,
From 92,
The first ep.

And in between
Sips of coke
He told me that
He thought
We were sellin out,
Layin down,
Suckin up
To the man.

Well now Ive got some
A-dvice for you, little buddy.
Before you point the finger
You should know that
Im the man,

And if Im the man,
Then youre the man, and
Hes the man as well so you can
Point that fuckin finger up your ass.

All you know about me is what Ive sold you,
Dumb fuck.
I sold out long before you ever heard my name.

I sold my soul to make a record,
Dip shit,
And you bought one.

So Ive got some
Advice for you, little buddy.
Before you point your finger
You should know that
Im the man,
If Im the fuckin man
Then youre the fuckin man as well
So you can
Point that fuckin finger up your ass.

All you know about me is what Ive sold you,
Dumb fuck.
I sold out long before you ever heard my name.

I sold my soul to make a record,
Dip shit,
And you bought one.

All you read and
Wear or see and
Hear on tv
Is a product
Begging for your
Fatass dirty
Dollar

So...shut up and

Buy my new record
Send more money
Fuck you, buddy.

[blackzc]

Let's name a few albums from the past 5 years that prove you wrong

Angra - Rebirth
Angra - Temple of the Shadows
Angra - Aurora Consurgens
Symphony X - Paradise Lost
Ayreon - The Human Equation
Kamelot - The Black Halo
Dream Theater - Octavarium
Gamma Ray - Majestic
Demons & Wizards - Touched By The Crimson King

And this is only dipping into two subgenres of metal, and a small part of them. Some of these bands are far more relevant today, and it still boggles my mind how Metallica still has so many fans that only listen to them with regards to metal with what's out there in metal across the board today.


Well none of those are better then AJFA (IMO), not even close. Octovarium is pretty good though. This list is all forgettable, i can still listen to ANY metallica at any time and it is good.

[blackzc]

fair enough

you should start here.....do explain.....in the meantime, you might find these lyrics enlightening...


Tool - "Hooker With a Penis"

I met a boy wearing vans, 501s, and a
Dope beastie t, nipple rings, and
New tattoos that claimed that he
Was ogt,
From 92,
The first ep.

And in between
Sips of coke
He told me that
He thought
We were sellin out,
Layin down,
Suckin up
To the man.

Well now Ive got some
A-dvice for you, little buddy.
Before you point the finger
You should know that
Im the man,

And if Im the man,
Then youre the man, and
Hes the man as well so you can
Point that fuckin finger up your ass.

All you know about me is what Ive sold you,
Dumb fuck.
I sold out long before you ever heard my name.

I sold my soul to make a record,
Dip shit,
And you bought one.

So Ive got some
Advice for you, little buddy.
Before you point your finger
You should know that
Im the man,
If Im the fuckin man
Then youre the fuckin man as well
So you can
Point that fuckin finger up your ass.

All you know about me is what Ive sold you,
Dumb fuck.
I sold out long before you ever heard my name.

I sold my soul to make a record,
Dip shit,
And you bought one.

All you read and
Wear or see and
Hear on tv
Is a product
Begging for your
Fatass dirty
Dollar

So...shut up and

Buy my new record
Send more money
Fuck you, buddy.

What a melodramatic bitch:rolleyes: uhg.....This is why i hate tool, they push the boundaries of whineyness, i just sit and roll my eyes and say...ah cmon its not THAT bad is it?

[Bahamut]

Well none of those are better then AJFA (IMO), not even close. Octovarium is pretty good though. This list is all forgettable, i can still listen to ANY metallica at any time and it is good.

Forgettable? You must not have listened to any of them because each one of those is far more memorable than anything Metallica has done. The new Symphony X album is very good (i.e. songs like Domination & Seven). Temple of the Shadows is hailed as one of the strongest metal albums out there, by lovers of power metal and many of those who don't normally listen to the genre, metalhead or not.

Metallica has been outclassed by incredibly many metal acts, and are pretty much dead as far as metal is concerned - their splash is nothing like Iron Maiden, Dream Theater, Nightwish, Children of Bodom, Helloween, Gamma Ray, Blind Guardian, etc.

[Dirty Harry]

Tom Araya sings for Slayer. I thought Christ Illusion was great, he sounded good to me on that album. He does have issues live though, running out of breath and such heh.

you know, i am wrong with the name and i do appologize, but my point still stands when hes live he sounds husky and shit.

[blackzc]

Forgettable? You must not have listened to any of them because each one of those is far more memorable than anything Metallica has done. The new Symphony X album is very good (i.e. songs like Domination & Seven). Temple of the Shadows is hailed as one of the strongest metal albums out there, by lovers of power metal and many of those who don't normally listen to the genre, metalhead or not.

Metallica has been outclassed by incredibly many metal acts, and are pretty much dead as far as metal is concerned - their splash is nothing like Iron Maiden, Dream Theater, Nightwish, Children of Bodom, Helloween, Gamma Ray, Blind Guardian, etc.

I did say (IMO), i dunno, i just dont see any of that even touching metallica. I do love dream theater though but even their stuff gets a little monotonous.