Final Fantasy VII tech demo, or is it?

[Tricky Thumb]

Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/31/news_6130109.html) is reporting that after pressing Square this weekend, they seem to have gleaned hints that an FFVII remake is indeed a matter of time.

However, when pressed, the reps also noted that further plans for content based on FFVII haven't been set, per se. They affirmed that the resulting reaction from fans over the demo footage and the content related to FFVII being shown at the party has been overwhelmingly positive. As a result, provided fan reaction continues to be feverishly positive over the demo and the very notion of a FFVII remake, it's certainly something that Square Enix would bear in mind when planning future projects.
I honestly would not mind a straightforward remake, instead of all these lame spin-off games.

[Zawath]

Most likely they do one if the movie turns out to be a hit.

[TrackZero]

Personally I'd rather see updated versions of Final Fantasy 4 and 6.

[Zeal]

Magic Box reported a rumor that a PS3 remake of FFVII has been under development for quite some time. I think it is.

[StrifeSnake13*]

My guess is that they are planing it right now, and if advent children sells good then they will go ahead and remake it. Because come on they have 2 sequels and two prequels for FFVII, all they need to complete the project is a PS3 remake.

[LilEvilFish]

A lot of people will say, "Omg liek you are so lame for buying that, it'll just be the same game with rehashed graphix omg so lam0r" .. so I will buy it to just piss them off ^_^ and I enjoyed FF7 a lot.

[StrifeSnake13*]

A lot of people still play the PS1 version on a regular basis (my self included), so playing a remake with great graphics, improved gamplay, and extras would be totally worth it.

Also anyone who dident play or beat the PS1 version, could experience the great game on a next gen platform. Many people that are recent RPG players, FF players, or new gamers haven't played FFVII because it's old. For example, my friend liked FFX but wasent interested in playing FFVII because it's so old and visually out dated.

[tai.mei.shu]

that game was friggin shweet, if they made a remake, it would sell like hookers.

[Taco]

I don't know. I've played VII to death(on the PC). Done all the chocobo breeding/racing, the search for those buried whatever they were(I forget it), all the spells, all the super weapons. I think I'v pretty much milked it.

I wish they'd make a good new FF game for the PC.

[Deathbane27]

Personally I'd rather see updated versions of Final Fantasy 4 and 6.


Here, here! And maybe even 5.

Heck, they could re-use the models from the cutscenes in Final Fantasy Anthology or something. :p

[smallkid]

i hope they dont ruin anything by adding stuff

[dr_qwandry]

Let's hope the Enix side of things won't screw it up.

Don't get me wrong Star Ocean: The Second Story and Valkyrie Profile are some of the best PS1 games ever made. But, I hope that things are essentially the same. Such as all the story, main points (motorcycle battles, materia and the such.) and same characters.

Little extra's and some more enimies would sweeten this already seemingly sweet deal.

[bobbler]

More extras would be nice (more secret stuff and more stuff in the arcade). More plot explaination (like flash-back type things maybe?), voice overs (which can be turned on/off for those that don't like them) and some remastered music would be sexy.

[EvilBob46]

Don't get me wrong, I'd be all over a FFVII remake...but I'd prefer a sequel...sort of like FFVII-2...just not crappy like FFX-2.

[Dirty Harry]

Let's hope the Enix side of things won't screw it up.

Don't get me wrong Star Ocean: The Second Story and Valkyrie Profile are some of the best PS1 games ever made. But, I hope that things are essentially the same. Such as all the story, main points (motorcycle battles, materia and the such.) and same characters.

Little extra's and some more enimies would sweeten this already seemingly sweet deal.
What if they expanded the game, made it the same in someways but expanded what you could do in it?. Like just say added mini sub stories to the game as it was.

[bean19]

It really surprises me that they have slowed down the production of their flagship games. . . true Final Fantasy titles.

I'm ready for FF XII to come out if for no other reason than to get that team working on an X360 or PS3 Final Fantasy.

[Skizott]

FFXII is coming out.

Well, in Japan, it's coming out March 16, 2006.

If they do a remake of FF7 for the PS3, then both will sell like hotcakes. It could be the Ace the Sony wants to control the market.

[Blue]

If they do a remake of FF7 for the PS3, then both will sell like hotcakes. It could be the Ace the Sony wants to control the market.

I dunno. Maybe it's me, but I can't see an 8+ year old game with a fresh coat of gloss solidifying the market for Sony.

[Skizott]

It may be 8+ years old, but it has a huge fan base.

[Blue]

Okay, well then 8 years down the road when the Xbox 4 is out and they remake Halo, Xbox is going to win the console wars.

[vanlandw]

Personally I'd rather see updated versions of Final Fantasy 4 and 6.

agreed but 7 would prob be a bigger seller. to be honest i would rather see them work on a remake of any of the older titles then what they are currently working on (not to offend but FFXII doesn't look that exciting to me) :(

[Skizott]

Who knows, it could. A lot can happen in 8 years.

[Blue]

Who knows, it could. A lot can happen in 8 years.

Hrm. Missing the point.....

[bean19]

One thing to consider:

Cloud cross-dressing and being "seduced" in high res.

[Draft]

Jesus Christ, Final Fantasy fans are pathetic. Getting excited about a 7 year old game with a 2 million polygon makeover. Wanting to replay the samn damn game cause it's in hi-res? Well, of course they do, they have been since FFI.

Losers.

[Spigot]

Personally I'd rather see updated versions of Final Fantasy 4 and 6.

I'd love to see that too, but I think that 4 & 6 both hold up rather well given the strength of 2D graphics. They don't age nearly as badly as 3D graphics do. That's the main reason I haven't really bothered to fire up FFVII and actually play through it on my PS2. I almost beat it on the PC way back in the day, but didn't beat the final boss. Every so often I feel like playing it through on the PS2 but I just can't get into it again.

I think that FFVII was great, but didn't age as well as FFVIII or IX did.

If they're going to do a remake, redo Chrono Trigger in high-res 3D.

[megatron666]

If they're going to do a remake, redo Chrono Trigger in high-res 3D.


I agree. In fact, there was a project where some people were remaking CT in 3d just for the hell of it. Once they released some screen shots and a trailer Square threatened litigation. I don't think there will ever be an updated version of CT. Also, I don't think they will release another sequal for it anytime soon.

By the way, the sequal sucked ass. Instead of having a few characters that you grew to love they gave you 40 that you didn't give a shit about. Hell, the hero changes bodies halfway through the game so you can't even get attached to him. Just my 2 cents.

Also, to all the people in this thread complaining about the posibility of a FFVII remake, why are you in this thread? If you don't like FF or RPGs thats fine but why bitch to strangers about it? I don't like Madden but you don't see me jumping into some random football thread and telling them how the gameplay is the same from game to game only the graphics are a little updated.

[StrifeSnake13*]

Jesus Christ, Final Fantasy fans are pathetic. Getting excited about a 7 year old game with a 2 million polygon makeover. Wanting to replay the samn damn game cause it's in hi-res? Well, of course they do, they have been since FFI.

Losers.
could it be because it's a great game? naw your right, what a bunch of losers :rolleyes:

I guess I'm a loser then..... well at least me and about 5 million people all know that we are now losers because "draft" said so. Thanks draft, your so cool!! :rolleyes:

[Spigot]

I didn't mind Chrono Cross, but aside from some familiar music and a few themes carried over from CT, it didn't really seem like a true sequel. You could argue that it is somewhat like the FF series where each game has elements of the predecessors but is not a true sequel (X-2 aside).

I keep saying it, but a port of the SNES cartridge to the GBA would be all I need to get rid of my entire GBA library as there's no way I'd take the CT cart out. I have the PS1 version that was in the FF Anthology but the load times really bug the snot out of me. I just wish my SNES with my CT cartridge hadn't been stolen, oh, 8-9 years ago :P

Are they no longer developing Chrono Crash? That'd be a shame. I'd at least like to see them work on their non-FF brands. I also would love to see a new version of Vagrant Story. Mmm... Not a remake. A sequel or continuation of the series would be lovely, though a remake would also rock.

[EvilBob46]

Wanting to replay the samn damn game cause it's in hi-res? Well, of course they do, they have been since FFI.

Losers.

I really hope you're joking...

[Kelegacy]

Jesus Christ, Final Fantasy fans are pathetic. Getting excited about a 7 year old game with a 2 million polygon makeover. Wanting to replay the samn damn game cause it's in hi-res? Well, of course they do, they have been since FFI.

Losers.

No offense, but are you bipolar? Sometimes you can be reserved and non-antagonistic, but other times it seems like someone else is using your screen name. Saw a few posts from you last week and I thought, is that really Draft?

Anyway, Final Fantasy games have such a huge following because they ooze quality. It kind of pains me that X is really the only true FF game this round. the MMO didnt really count (for me), so I have had to really wait between installments. I think, besides the interesting storylines, (which some people like you may call badly contrived or hackneyed) the characters, graphics, battlesystem and massive scope have drived the sucess of the franchise. I do recognize that FF7's amazing GFX (for the time) really brought RPG gaming into the mainstream.

Still, I love the series. Anyone who doesnt like the better gems like 6 and 7 usually dont like RPGing anyway. 6 made me start playing RPGs. Amazing stuff, and timeless.

[pacman]

I don't even think this is a debatable point. Look how well the remade Resident Evil sold and how well it played; it only makes sense that another game from that generation would get a makeover.

I think the weirdest thought I've had about the whole remake idea is that I wouldn't care about people remaking old 8-bit games because most of the series have either been continued well or graphically are fine for what they are. I mean, I have no want/need for a remake of Contra, even though Konami has again tried to murder the series. It seems only the games that were trying to push the graphical barriers in the 32-64 bit era need graphical updates simply because by today's standards they are just too ugly.

[Furious Wang]

They should remake Final Fantasy Legend 3.

Anyway, with REmake the updated graphics provided tons of atmosphere to a game they also switched up 70 percent of. Can they really do that much to an RPG?

Are there any hardcore Final Fantasy fans on this site? May I ask all of you a question? Do you also like Emo? Just wondering.

[Draft]

No offense, but are you bipolar? Sometimes you can be reserved and non-antagonistic, but other times it seems like someone else is using your screen name. Saw a few posts from you last week and I thought, is that really Draft? It is shocking to me that a remake of FFVII is a big deal. I just can't wrap my head around it. With all the bitching and moaning about the lack of creativity in modern games, I find it incredulous that some of you are actually hyped at the prospect of replaying an adventure game that's not even that old!

edit: And yes, the original post was over the line and I owe an apology to all you final fantasy nerds. My raiding group had just wiped to some stupid bullshit in MC and I was alt tabbed out and looking to vent.

[Kagger]

I would hope its a straight up remake, but with voices and better looking. Gamplays hould be identical though. That includes the W-item trick and all of that stuff, even though I don't use it (too cheap...but you know what point I'm trying to make)

[jeffool]

It is shocking to me that a remake of FFVII is a big deal. I just can't wrap my head around it. With all the bitching and moaning about the lack of creativity in modern games, I find it incredulous that some of you are actually hyped at the prospect of replaying an adventure game that's not even that old!I completely agree with Draft. As much as I loved 4 and 6, I refuse to buy them again. I've already bought them both.

Twice.

I've already decided that if they want my money from now on, let them earn it. And they're not going to get it by selling me something I already have. Much less something I already have two of. Especially if there's no new gameplay.

[TrackZero]

I completely agree with Draft. As much as I loved 4 and 6, I refuse to buy them again. I've already bought them both.

Twice.

I've already decided that if they want my money from now on, let them earn it. And they're not going to get it by selling me something I already have. Much less something I already have two of. Especially if there's no new gameplay.

Draft never actually named 4 and 6, FYI, he was talking about 7, or the series in general. But I agree, I'd rather see new titles than remakes, but in the case of remaking 7 for the PS3, it's just a pure cash-grab on their part.

[*Legion*]

I want to see them take the Final Fantasy franchise somewhere that isn't essentially the same game as 10 years ago.

I know, I know, wishful thinking...

[Mister Pie]

I wish they would make more games in the Chrono Trigger series.

[Achilles]

I’d like a remake of VII, especially one that’s made on a next-gen system. I’d also like a new Final Fantasy game, some spin-offs from VII and another company that was founded by the guys who made Final Fantasy working on a new expansive Japanese RPG. And it looks like I may have all that stuff. It’s a good day. Take that negativity.

[Rommel]

Final Fantasy VII had a story more moving that what commonly passes for literature these days. I would adore another visit to a world. I would ask they use more FMV than in FFX though, as it's usage was ground-breaking and a big part of the original.

And for those who dislike FFVII compared to other RPGs, know that it was the roaring success of FFVII that propelled the genre to its current heights.

[sickfallout]

Final Fantasy 6 and Chrono Trigger are my top two games of all time, simply because, like many others in this thread have stated, they age so well. I must have played through both of these games 20 times each, and everytime I find something new to mess with, or realize something new about the storylines of the characters.

Then again, I'm a bit of a purist, and would much rather have a portable version of FFVI and CT than a total remake. Even remaking VII doesn't interest me. Whenever it comes to remakes, all I need to do is think of the remake to "Psycho." Yeah, it fucking sucked.

[Draft]

Final Fantasy VII had a story more moving that what commonly passes for literature these days. Oh my GOD. Think about what you just said.

[president_fred]

Oh my GOD. Think about what you just said.
Yeah that kind of freaked me out too. I think most people played this game being relatively new to good stories in games (just like remember the early books you read and thought were great but then read them again later and realised they were fucking shit) and so overvalued the story slightly, then again it all depends on what sort of books you read. Personally I thought the story was good for a videogame but by no means fantastic for other mediums.

[OUX]

Jesus Christ, Final Fantasy fans are pathetic. Getting excited about a 7 year old game with a 2 million polygon makeover. Wanting to replay the samn damn game cause it's in hi-res? Well, of course they do, they have been since FFI.

Losers.


Seriously man you're a retard. We play FFVII because it is a great game with an awesome story. It is FUN. A remake just makes it that much sweeter. Beside you shouldn't say anything about playing the same game. Atleast Square has the decency to have the same name on it unlike the RE games. I'm sorry but their the same damn game over and over

[Spigot]

I’d like a remake of VII, especially one that’s made on a next-gen system. I’d also like a new Final Fantasy game, some spin-offs from VII and another company that was founded by the guys who made Final Fantasy working on a new expansive Japanese RPG. And it looks like I may have all that stuff. It’s a good day. Take that negativity.

Hee hee. Touché. I guess it IS a good day!

I don't really care about the FFVII spin-offs, though that Vincent game looks neat. The other 80 spin-offs (aside from Advent Children) look rather pointless to me. I just don't recall the characters from VII as fondly as the other games in the series. I guess that those who had FFVII usher them into J-RPGing and RPGing in general probably have a better connection to Cloud, Barrett & Co. than I do.

Give me Kefka over Sephiroth any day :)

[Rommel]

Since Harry potter passes for literature, my statement holds true.

[The Mystery Cow]

Since Harry potter passes for literature, my statement holds true.

And how, exactly, is Harry Potter not literature?

[Banacek]

Jesus Christ, Final Fantasy fans are pathetic. Getting excited about a 7 year old game with a 2 million polygon makeover. Wanting to replay the samn damn game cause it's in hi-res? Well, of course they do, they have been since FFI.

Losers.

I wonder if you got excited and bought the RE remake on the Gamecube...

[megatron666]

I completely agree with Draft. As much as I loved 4 and 6, I refuse to buy them again. I've already bought them both.

Twice.

I've already decided that if they want my money from now on, let them earn it. And they're not going to get it by selling me something I already have. Much less something I already have two of. Especially if there's no new gameplay.

But this is the same argument that fails for games like Zelda on the GBA. You are assuming that nintendo is targeting people who have already played the game. I believe that they are trying to tap into a new, young market. Younger kids never played the game when it first came out and they don't have the system to play the old one on. So, nintendo re-releases the game on a new system to a new generation that might enjoy it.

If this is the case, why shouldn't square re-release FFVII? They could surely sell it to a new audience as well as people who haven't played the game in years. I would buy it even though I played the original. Why? Because I haven't played it in seven years and I don't remember that much about the game. If square ups the production on the game by adding voice acting, better graphics, and new content the I think it would be a great buy.

[mister_slim]

Because the past must die. We wouldn't want developers learning from the mistakes of the past, would we?

[jeffool]

But this is the same argument that fails for games like Zelda on the GBA. You are assuming that nintendo is targeting people who have already played the game. I believe that they are trying to tap into a new, young market. Younger kids never played the game when it first came out and they don't have the system to play the old one on. So, nintendo re-releases the game on a new system to a new generation that might enjoy it.Hey, they're more than entitled to make the game and market it to whoever they want. I'm just saying that I won't be buying it. Are you trying to say that I present a bad argument for me not buying the game again?

Draft never actually named 4 and 6, FYI, he was talking about 7, or the series in general. But I agree, I'd rather see new titles than remakes, but in the case of remaking 7 for the PS3, it's just a pure cash-grab on their part.I assumed he meant the series in general and meant that I wouldn't rebuy my favorite from the bunch unless they had something substantial to offer. By which I don't mean new audio or graphics.

[megatron666]

Hey, they're more than entitled to make the game and market it to whoever they want. I'm just saying that I won't be buying it. Are you trying to say that I present a bad argument for me not buying the game again?


Ah, forgive me. If you don't want to re-buy your repackaged old games you are completly in the right. I took your argument as meaning that all re-makes are just for game companies to make money off of people who already had the game. And I was saying that the repackaged games are a way to bring old favorites to a new generations.

[mr. murphy]

What about the difficulty? I think FFVII could use a remake because it has so many edges that need rounding out. If you're going to have final-attack and Knights of the Round, you need a harder last boss, maybe an optional powering-up a la Star Ocean: The Second Story and Indelecio's limiter. Also, every FMV was a different CG style, doesn't anyone want to see some consistancy? There are a lot of little ways they could imrpove the game. The important thing when adding to a game or creating a remake is keeping the overall feel of the game intact. ((For the record, the GameCube remake of Metal Gear Solid felt nothing like the original, mostly because of the new music video style cutscenes, whereas the Resident Evil remake felt like the game the original had become in my memory.))

Don't get me wrong, this may be my 3rd favorite RPG, after FF VI and CT, both of which I think would transfer really well to a 3D rendering.

[Zurik]

Check out what we learned today:

1. People have different opinions.

2. On the internet, everything must end up as a heated argument.

So yeah, a remake would be fun IMHO, but I'd also rather see a sequel to just about any Square game. Like, say, a actual sequel to FF: Tactics? One that stuck with the plot of the ps1 version? Of course FFXII looks like its the closest thing to that, and the guy that did Vagrant Story knows how to tell an intriguing tale.

[jeffool]

Ah, forgive me. If you don't want to re-buy your repackaged old games you are completly in the right. I took your argument as meaning that all re-makes are just for game companies to make money off of people who already had the game. And I was saying that the repackaged games are a way to bring old favorites to a new generations.It's cool man. I totally understand how you could get that, this being an internet message board and all. ;) I'm not completely sure of how I feel about it. It's just that on the surface graphical/audio 'remasters' of original games seem to cheapen the original to me. I understand that quite possibly at the time of the original it was impossible to do what the creator wanted and they may want to 'do their baby justice', but at the same time why not go forward with new ideas?

The 1990 color version of Night of the Living Dead was suprisingly good. But no way is it better than the original, y'know? And Hamlet's a fucking great tragedy. But anytime you see a modern movie with similar themes/plot, well, you say "Hamlet did it better." And while games can improve on themselves, what if Spider-Man 2 had just been Spider-Man 1 with better graphics?

Of course, if they put out a new disc with the old game intact, and also the possibility to play a new version with added adventures, stories, abilities, etc. I'd probably buy that shit in a heartbeat. (See? You thought I'd say they were bastardizing it, didn't you?)

[Spigot]

Of course FFXII looks like its the closest thing to that, and the guy that did Vagrant Story knows how to tell an intriguing tale.

Aye, but didn't he just leave (or was the one recently reported to have left)?

That said, I'm hoping they were far enough along that his departure won't hurt anything. We'll see... September 18, 2008... :D

[Spigot]

Of course, if they put out a new disc with the old game intact, and also the possibility to play a new version with added adventures, stories, abilities, etc. I'd probably buy that shit in a heartbeat. (See? You thought I'd say they were bastardizing it, didn't you?)

If they just gussied up the graphics and had voiceovers, I'd be fine with that. I really don't see the need for extra content aside from a more streamlined Chocobo breeding apparatus!

Having the ability to choose whether you wanted to play the original version or the new 'Special Edition' version would be a way to keep the new audience AND the fans happy.

If only Lucas would understand this concept...

[Spigot]

I do agree with the sentiments that their energies would be better spent actually developing new games. If they weren't taking 80 years to develop FFXII, I could get myself a little more excited for these trips down memory lane. I just would like to see more games from the other Square and Enix IP's and original ideas that they could leverage their years of expertise towards.

[Achilles]

I just don't recall the characters from VII as fondly as the other games in the series. I guess that those who had FFVII usher them into J-RPGing and RPGing in general probably have a better connection to Cloud, Barrett & Co. than I do.I didn’t like them as much as the characters in VI, but really I can’t complain too much. If the remake of VII does well it’s very possible that they’ll go through and do VI and IV as well. So if you want to encourage Sqeenix to remake VI, buying VII’s remake might be a good way to go.

XII looks interesting, but I have no idea why it’s taking so long, and the real-time combat system has me weary. They also didn’t really show the game at E-III, it wasn’t on the floor, which is odd.

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[mister_slim]

1. People have different opinions.

And those of everyone but me are wrong.
2. On the internet, everything must end up as a heated argument.

What the fuck kind of crap is that?!?

:p

[Spigot]

XII looks interesting, but I have no idea why it’s taking so long, and the real-time combat system has me weary. They also didn’t really show the game at E-III, it wasn’t on the floor, which is odd.


From what I've read the battle system for XII is a lot like XI's. I actually didn't mind the battle system in the MMO, so this is fine with me. It's still somewhat turnbased, or at least menu driven. It's just not the usual Final Fantasy combat that you're used to from the previous, oh, 10 iterations.

[Zurik]

Aye, but didn't he just leave (or was the one recently reported to have left)?

That said, I'm hoping they were far enough along that his departure won't hurt anything. We'll see... September 18, 2008... :D

I heard that too, but it seemed like they were keeping just about all his contributions to FFXII, like alot of the character design and story, etc...
2008 though, I'm hoping that's not how long it takes, but considering its not even out in Japan...