Haze gets a Release Date [Archive]

gzsfrk

11-13-2007, 11:00 AM

Another FPS for a next-gen console. Could be good, and I hope it is, since if it proves to be a great game with decent sales, the likelihood that the 360 would get a port could be pretty good. Or, if not, it will be one more game in the back-catalog that I'll be able to pick up on the cheap when I eventually get a <$200 PS3.

But tell me... Isn't one of the big, cliched (although by no means completely inaccurate) criticisms of the 360 that it only has shooters and racers? What's the PS3 got to show for it in its library that the 360 doesn't have more of? One could argue that with the release of R&C on the PS3 that there is no analog to it on the 360, although I would counter that Kameo fills that role (although it's not nearly as good a title as R&C).

Seriously--RPGs, action games, puzzlers, fighters, shooters.... In which genre is the 360 lacking that the PS3 currently (or will in the near future) delivers?

Suave Peanut

11-13-2007, 11:04 AM

Wasn't this the game that Miyamoto didn't like at E3 or am I thinking of something else?

Yeti2005

11-13-2007, 11:06 AM

Doctor Setebos

11-13-2007, 11:09 AM

Wasn't this the game that Miyamoto didn't like at E3 or am I thinking of something else?You are correct.

Which I thought was funny, because there are distinct parallels between Haze and Metroid Prime 3: Corruption.

Kamalot

11-13-2007, 11:09 AM

Yeah, getting really strong 'Meh' vibes from this myself.

A hear a lot of PS3 owners poo-pooing FPS games stating that if they wanted to play FPS titles, they'd get a 360. I don't know how much of the PS3's target demographic is attracted to FPS titles, especially ones with a 'meh' vibe.

Psykoboy2

11-13-2007, 11:12 AM

I don't have the sound on, but that looks like one cheesy video posted over there. That's also the guy I talked to at PAX for just a bit. And probably the guy we'll have on the show should we get them.

chirz

11-13-2007, 11:19 AM

I have to second (or third or fourth?) that "meh" vibe. Just give us more timesplitters already!

Thumper

11-13-2007, 11:20 AM

You can use this fact to OD the soldiers by dipping your knife in Nectar and stabbing them

Wouldn't this cause them to die before they OD? ;P

Suave Peanut

11-13-2007, 11:21 AM

I don't know how much of the PS3's target demographic is attracted to FPS titles, especially ones with a 'meh' vibe.

Question: who exactly is the PS3's target demo?

EternalGamer

11-13-2007, 11:25 AM

Free Radical is a talented group. I give them the benefit of doubt until reviews start coming in.

Infinity

11-13-2007, 11:26 AM

Wasn't this the game that Miyamoto didn't like at E3 or am I thinking of something else?

I don't think he didn't like it, he just had a visibly visceral reaction to it when he saw the drug aspect of it.

And I think the Metroid Prime 3 equivalent is the triggering of a super-powerful mode that chews up a lot of health but gives you incredible firepower.

That makes me think he got an inspiration from that moment or was shocked to see someone else come up with a similar game mechanic.

Infinity

11-13-2007, 11:33 AM

Yeah, getting really strong 'Meh' vibes from this myself.
Me too, unless I see a full cover system like Rainbow Six and Uncharted.

I tried the TimeShift demo on PS3 and was seriously annoyed. Oh sure, stop time when it's raining and all the water sits in the air, suddenly opaque, and you can't see a fricken thing. That's useful!

Unless the Haze guys make a demo that is easy to understand and teach me how to get at the innovative goodness of their game reasonably quickly I won't be bothered to try the final game out.

Achilles

11-13-2007, 11:33 AM

I hear in this game the corporation that made your guy is actually evil! With an original story like an evil corporation making a super soldier, and then that super soldier having to take the corporation down, how could they fail?

The gameplay better be really fun is all I'm saying.

UnderHero5

11-13-2007, 11:34 AM

I must be in the extreme minority, because I've been looking forward to this game for a long time. It looks like a lot of fun to me, especially with 4 player online coop. The fact that it's Free Radical is enough for me.

Not saying I won't wait for impressions, but I think it's going to be a pretty good game.

Edit: I should note that I never play FPS's for their stories.

Kelegacy

11-13-2007, 11:39 AM

I predict that the first "bad" review will show up as a front-page news post. This is a PS3 exclusive after all.

trfe

11-13-2007, 12:07 PM

Everything I've read about Haze sounds so innovative. For example, there's a substance called Nectar which gives the bad guys superhuman strength, agility, etc but it's also a narcotic. You can use this fact to OD the soldiers by dipping your knife in Nectar and stabbing them, or throwing a Nectar grenade, or bullets covered in Nectar, replace their regular coffee with Nectar, etc. It really does sound amazing. Did I mention the twist in this game is the fact that Nectar is a narcotic? ;)

Sounds like you've taken the bait hook, line, and sinker..

I'm sure the game is not that free roaming where you can dip your knife in Nectar...what the hell would that do anyway? Give the guys you stab superhuman abilities?

There are many ideas that are done poorly...look at Liar.

trfe

11-13-2007, 12:08 PM

I predict that the first "bad" review will show up as a front-page news post. This is a PS3 exclusive after all.

Or Gorvi authors the first positive review post. :)

sprankton

11-13-2007, 12:12 PM

This game needs to be on the front page when the reviews come out just to make people see how horrible of a game it really is. Not because it is a PS3 exclusive right now, but because it is a horrible game.

Podfork

11-13-2007, 12:17 PM

I predict that the first "bad" review will show up as a front-page news post. This is a PS3 exclusive after all.

I'm not sure I like your tone. Last time I checked, Evil Avatar were very good to platform exclusive FPS games. Heck, they even gave up front-page advertising space so they could host their own advert for one in the run up to launch as well as theming their entire site around it! Why should this be any different?

Believe.

Kwatsu

11-13-2007, 12:48 PM

What other PS3 exclusives are on the horizon after Haze? MGS?

dbh1973

11-13-2007, 12:58 PM

Torgo

11-13-2007, 01:04 PM

Huh, I think this looks like a great game so far. I'd like to play a demo to find out for sure though.

It doesn't matter what platform it's on, so far, from what I've seen, I am interested in this game.

Yeti2005

11-13-2007, 02:13 PM

Sounds like you've taken the bait hook, line, and sinker..

I'm sure the game is not that free roaming where you can dip your knife in Nectar...what the hell would that do anyway? Give the guys you stab superhuman abilities?

There are many ideas that are done poorly...look at Liar.

Sorry I was being sarcastic in my original post. I think the game will rank right up there with Timeshift in the 'meh' department.

Evil Avatar

11-13-2007, 02:23 PM

I'm waiting for the 360 version.

Sandman

11-13-2007, 02:26 PM

It's a day one buy for me....something releasing in the middle of December when I can actually afford it is a good thing.

Kamalot

11-13-2007, 02:31 PM

It's a day one buy for me....something releasing in the middle of December when I can actually afford it is a good thing.

I dunno about you, but something released in mid-December means I probably CAN NOT buy it due to buying things for other people.

Gorvi

11-13-2007, 02:34 PM

I hope there's a demo, I'll say that at least. I've loved the Timesplitters series, but didn't care for FR's last game (that psychic thing). 4 player online co-op sounds damn nice, but it doesn't help that the game looks as generic as Timeshift.

Rogue_hunter

11-13-2007, 02:53 PM

Sandman

11-13-2007, 03:01 PM

come December, we're playing co-op then.

I'll look you up for some co-op.

sprankton

11-13-2007, 03:50 PM

You've played it? How is the rumble in the DS3?

Yes I have, but again you don't need to play it to see how horrible of a game it is. I spent about 30 minutes with a developer playing it and I told him it was a bad product after we finished with the "demo".

Gorvi

11-13-2007, 03:51 PM

Yes I have, but again you don't need to play it to see how horrible of a game it is. I spent about 30 minutes with a developer playing it and I told him it was a bad product after we finished with the "demo".
What was so terrible?

sprankton

11-13-2007, 04:00 PM

What was so terrible?

It will get my "Worst Game of The Year Award" unless they changed something drastically about the game.

The game is basically a cookie cutter FPS. Haze seriously adds nothing to the FPS genre in terms of game play, story and graphics. I guess the only good thing about the game is that it doesn't abuse the brown and gray scale of the color wheel.

I guess I am just pissed because the game i suppose to be an exclusive for the PS3 and something PS3 fans are looking for, but it is so underwhelming it is down right criminal.

Hemalin

11-13-2007, 04:01 PM

What was so terrible?

He says that every time Haze is mentioned, but he has never mentioned why.

mister_slim

11-13-2007, 04:34 PM

come December, we're playing co-op then.

Count me in too.

Sandman

11-13-2007, 04:37 PM

It will get my "Worst Game of The Year Award" unless they changed something drastically about the game.

The game is basically a cookie cutter FPS. Haze seriously adds nothing to the FPS genre in terms of game play, story and graphics. I guess the only good thing about the game is that it doesn't abuse the brown and gray scale of the color wheel.

I guess I am just pissed because the game i suppose to be an exclusive for the PS3 and something PS3 fans are looking for, but it is so underwhelming it is down right criminal.

Since when does every game have to be groundbreaking or add something to it's genre? As long as it's as good as the trailers look I'm ok with it.

sprankton

11-13-2007, 04:51 PM

Since when does every game have to be groundbreaking or add something to it's genre? As long as it's as good as the trailers look I'm ok with it.

It does not have the be ground breaking. Hell Halo really isn't ground breaking, but it is not generic cookie cutter blah. For those who want the game, what attracts you to the game.

What is going to seperate this FPS from better games out there?

Kamalot

11-14-2007, 12:46 AM

Gorvi

11-14-2007, 01:29 AM

It does not have the be ground breaking. Hell Halo really isn't ground breaking, but it is not generic cookie cutter blah. For those who want the game, what attracts you to the game.

What is going to seperate this FPS from better games out there?
Actually, the original Halo did feel like generic sci fi cookie cutter blah to me. You still, though, haven't said what makes the game so terrible. It doesn't do anything new, and that's not great to be sure, but you've been very damning of the game, and so far you really haven't justified that position at all.

GabeCube

11-14-2007, 03:15 AM

Anything that comes from the guys who made Goldeneye, TimeSplitters and Second Sight automatically gets a chance from me, no matter how bad expectations are.

KingGorilla

11-14-2007, 03:52 AM

It does not have the be ground breaking. Hell Halo really isn't ground breaking, but it is not generic cookie cutter blah. For those who want the game, what attracts you to the game.

What is going to seperate this FPS from better games out there?

Just Cause and Dark Messiah of Might and Magic do not do much for their genres, and I had a blast playing both of them. And please don't drum up my re-review of Dark Messiah, I did enjoy it for what it did well.

I may be one of the most pretentious pricks around here, but at the end of the day most things are not high art, and it comes down to if your money translated into fun and enjoyment.

bapenguin

11-14-2007, 04:54 AM

I predict that the first "bad" review will show up as a front-page news post. This is a PS3 exclusive after all.

What if they are all bad? Are we not allowed to post it then?

Kamalot

11-14-2007, 06:30 AM

What if they are all bad? Are we not allowed to post it then?

Nope. Only positive PS3 game reviews are allowed. If the game turns out to be universally terrible, it is swept under the rug. Isn't that how the Sony Protection Group runs their boat?

Gorvi

11-14-2007, 06:36 AM

What if they are all bad? Are we not allowed to post it then?
Might I suggest the title "Haze Would Require Drug Use To Enjoy" should that happen? ;)

Kamalot

11-14-2007, 06:46 AM

Might I suggest the title "Haze Would Require Drug Use To Enjoy" should that happen? ;)

That's very clever. :D

Podfork

11-14-2007, 10:05 AM

Nope. Only positive PS3 game reviews are allowed. If the game turns out to be universally terrible, it is swept under the rug. Isn't that how the Sony Protection Group runs their boat?

You know something?

I read a front page news item on this site the other day - taking time out to praise a multiplatform FPS. It's out on 360, PS3, PC and, heck, it's even out on DS. At no point did the praising text favour any one platform.

But the picture of the box that was at the bottom of the post? Guess which platform it was for.

Pretty much every time I've seen the Gods at Evil Avatar have a chance to demonstrate neutrality they do the exact opposite.

Acting coy and shrugging your shoulders is cute - but, like Sony, you reap what you sow. ;)

Kamalot

11-14-2007, 11:43 AM

You know something?

I read a front page news item on this site the other day - taking time out to praise a multiplatform FPS. It's out on 360, PS3, PC and, heck, it's even out on DS. At no point did the praising text favour any one platform.

But the picture of the box that was at the bottom of the post? Guess which platform it was for.

Probably the most popular version of the game. 360 sells a lot of software. In the case of Electronic Arts, they make more money off of Xbox 360 sales than they do off of PS3, PC and Nintendo DS sales combined.

I know you like to have those conspiracy thoughts, but in all honesty, we play what we like. Right now, I'm totally preferring my Wii, with games like Fire Emblem, Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles, Battalion Wars 2, Rockstar's Table Tennis, Zack & Wiki, and Mario & Sonic at the Olympics, I don't have time to play anything else.

AND

I don't remember anywhere stating that Evil Avatar is platform neutral. Do you?

Stop whining. If you want more positive PS3 news, submit it yourself.

oldjadedgamer

11-14-2007, 12:08 PM

You know something?

I read a front page news item on this site the other day - taking time out to praise a multiplatform FPS. It's out on 360, PS3, PC and, heck, it's even out on DS. At no point did the praising text favour any one platform.

But the picture of the box that was at the bottom of the post? Guess which platform it was for.

Pretty much every time I've seen the Gods at Evil Avatar have a chance to demonstrate neutrality they do the exact opposite.

Acting coy and shrugging your shoulders is cute - but, like Sony, you reap what you sow. ;)

This always happened last gen where even if a game was multiplatform the PS2 version was shown cause it was the lead platform. The only thing that changed was which platform is the lead now for all multiplatform games.

Somehow I think that 90% of people on gaming boards only started gaming when the Playstation was released. But I'm probably just old and jaded anyway.

Kelegacy

11-14-2007, 01:19 PM

I don't remember anywhere stating that Evil Avatar is platform neutral. Do you?

Stop whining. If you want more positive PS3 news, submit it yourself.

I think making Gorvi (or another Playstation fan) a mod would go a long way in blurring the "EvAv is Microsoft Biased" argument. But whenever we see a new mod don the red, it seems to be a life-long Playstation disliker. Some mods have been among the site's biggest anti-Sony trolls, so sometimes when people complain about apparent bias, it's hard to argue against it. (Agent Fox has been a good addition to the site, I admit. I don't get a sense of any prevalent bias, which is a good thing.)

And there's really no reason that there couldn't be a "Shane" of EvAv. Diversity is great. :)

Kamalot

11-14-2007, 01:34 PM

I think making Gorvi (or another Playstation fan) a mod would go a long way in blurring the "EvAv is Microsoft Biased" argument. But whenever we see a new mod don the red, it seems to be a life-long Playstation disliker. Some mods have been among the site's biggest anti-Sony trolls, so sometimes when people complain about apparent bias, it's hard to argue against it. (Agent Fox has been a good addition to the site, I admit. I don't get a sense of any prevalent bias, which is a good thing.)

And there's really no reason that there couldn't be a "Shane" of EvAv. Diversity is great. :)
Like I said. You want more PS3 news? Submit it yourself. I posted one yesterday about how the PS3 is confirmed to be playing DivX in the near future.

It is a known fact that one can not please everyone all the time. It is also a known fact that some people will never be pleased. Complaining about a 360 box being displayed for a multiplatform game (in an article that 'At no point did the praising text favour any one platform') is reeaaaallly reaching... at best.

If you feel so strongly that Evil Avatar has such an unshakable bias that you feel robbed, and you can't live with it any more, perhaps it is worth asking Evil Avatar for a refund on your donation.

TheFlyingOrc

11-14-2007, 01:47 PM

I think making Gorvi (or another Playstation fan) a mod would go a long way in blurring the "EvAv is Microsoft Biased" argument. But whenever we see a new mod don the red, it seems to be a life-long Playstation disliker. Some mods have been among the site's biggest anti-Sony trolls, so sometimes when people complain about apparent bias, it's hard to argue against it. (Agent Fox has been a good addition to the site, I admit. I don't get a sense of any prevalent bias, which is a good thing.)

And there's really no reason that there couldn't be a "Shane" of EvAv. Diversity is great. :)
Oh, shutup.

Who cares if the site is "biased"? Why is that even important?

Of COURSE you're going to be biased, because we're talking about a form of media. You have stuff you like and stuff you dislike. The internet hates Sony, not EvilAvatar. (note how often you see webcomics/Screw Attack mocking the PS3). I hang out on SA, which is pretty much "the internet", and it's just like here - a handful of Sony fans (one who is absolutely awesome) and then everyone else hates them. It's pretty simple.

Gorvi

11-14-2007, 02:09 PM

Oh, shutup.

Who cares if the site is "biased"? Why is that even important?

Of COURSE you're going to be biased, because we're talking about a form of media. You have stuff you like and stuff you dislike. The internet hates Sony, not EvilAvatar. (note how often you see webcomics/Screw Attack mocking the PS3). I hang out on SA, which is pretty much "the internet", and it's just like here - a handful of Sony fans (one who is absolutely awesome) and then everyone else hates them. It's pretty simple.
It sounds like you're trying to justify an attitude that's mostly baseless (at least in terms of anything concrete) because "everyone else is doing it". I'm not sure that was ever a good reason for doing anything.

Kamalot

11-14-2007, 02:16 PM

It sounds like you're trying to justify an attitude that's mostly baseless (at least in terms of anything concrete) because "everyone else is doing it". I'm not sure that was ever a good reason for doing anything.

I'd hardly call Sony's actions, attitudes and decisions as 'baseless'. There is a lot of PS3 distaste, and much of it from people who loved the PS2. It isn't fantasy, but a direct relation to treating your customers like shit, and taking them for granted. Some people will never see it, and those are the ones who are actually biased, since they won't see the forest for the trees.

But whatever. I got my PS3. I like Folklore. Someday, I'll get me some Uncharted too. I play my favorite PS1 and PS2 games on it, and it makes a great upscaler for DVDs.

Gorvi

11-14-2007, 02:19 PM

I'd hardly call Sony's actions, attitudes and decisions as 'baseless'. There is a lot of PS3 distaste, and much of it from people who loved the PS2. It isn't fantasy, but a direct relation to treating your customers like shit, and taking them for granted. Some people will never see it, and those are the ones who are actually biased, since they won't see the forest for the trees.

But whatever. I got my PS3. I like Folklore. Someday, I'll get me some Uncharted too. I play my favorite PS1 and PS2 games on it, and it makes a great upscaler.
Honestly, for all the PR bullshit, at the end of the day it still comes down to games. And yeah, the PS3 has had a pretty sub par 1st year in terms of quantity, but it's getting there. Some people just take it a little too personally, though, and it gets out of hand.

Hell, the PSP is a fantastic little console now with a great library, but you still have people who won't get it and/or feel the need to say it's worthless simply due to a negative attitude towards the company that makes it.

Kamalot

11-14-2007, 02:26 PM

Honestly, for all the PR bullshit, at the end of the day it still comes down to games. And yeah, the PS3 has had a pretty sub par 1st year in terms of quantity, but it's getting there. Some people just take it a little too personally, though, and it gets out of hand.

Hell, the PSP is a fantastic little console now with a great library, but you still have people who won't get it and/or feel the need to say it's worthless simply due to a negative attitude towards the company that makes it.
Asking people to pay top-premium dollar for the most expensive game console ever, while providing a paltry library and cross-platform titles that almost always perform worse on the system is not the way to win gamer's hearts. Sony completely lost focus of gamers this generation, making the Playstation more about movies than games. It shows. Gamers overall have now lost focus on the PS3.

PSP may be have a decent library now, and a design that it should have had on launch. But the way they treated people like me with launch units was pathetic. They had a 16 dead pixel policy, dusty screens, unresponsive buttons, asshole customer service, a bigger price tag, long load times and a crummy battery life. They sacrificed the system in order to try and sell movies, and it showed. Then they treated their customers who WANTED to like the system, like shit. (got my DS replaced for free-with shipping- for one dead pixel, no questions asked) Sony turned a LOT of people off to the whole PSP. I've considered picking up another one, now that the design is reasonable, but I frankly have WAY too much to play already.

In the end, Sony may turn their ship around. I hope so, cause I want a Sony that focuses on games, and tries VERY HARD to earn my gaming dollars.

Kelegacy

11-14-2007, 05:20 PM

If you feel so strongly that Evil Avatar has such an unshakable bias that you feel robbed, and you can't live with it any more, perhaps it is worth asking Evil Avatar for a refund on your donation.

Why would I do that? I'm suggesting a way to make the site more rounded. Things like promoting outstanding anti-Sony trolls to mod status is not what I would call rewarding the rest of the site; it's like picking the bad apples from a basket of good ones to make your pie.

Evil Avatar is still a good site for community discussions, even ones that are not gaming related, and I have a lot of good friends here. Bapenguin is a great overseer and should be commended at every turn. I respect him and some of the other mods for the work they do. For the most part the community is great here, even if I butt heads with people on occasion. For instance, fitbabits and I had some issues but when I returned after a spring and summer hiatus, he wrote me a personal email filled with good tidings.

We're all gamers with our own tastes, so bias is going to exist in some form across genres or platforms. However, I hold moderators to a higher standard than regular posters. Taking any opportunity to jab one of the other consoles or its games isn't something I expect from a moderator. I would hope they'd try to remain as objective as possible, do their job of moderating or enhancing discussion across the board. When one undermines that duty, creating turmoil in his wake, it defeats the purpose of mod status.

That's why I'm always pining for Gorvi to step up. He isn't a troll, he is well respected, nice, coherent, never says a hateful word or attempts to inspire chaos. Have you ever seen a debate he's been in? He never loses his cool, unlike someone like me. He is interested in positive Sony news and seeks it out for the rest of us. Without him submitting what he does, we'd miss out on a lot. I remember the site's rationale for your mod elevation was because you submitted a lot of stories. Well, Gorvi does that as well, and I think he does it better. There is an audience for the sort of information he reports on Evil Avatar, whether that audience is the minority or not. He is a positive, kind voice with no coating of apathy towards the other systems. In summation, he would make an awesome moderator.

xplics

11-14-2007, 06:10 PM

You are correct.

Which I thought was funny, because there are distinct parallels between Haze and Metroid Prime 3: Corruption.

LOL, well there you have it completion is a BI**TH, lol. As of HUGE FPS fan I am excited for this game but also kind of sitting on the side lines wanting to see exactly what the quality of this title will be. I mean love FPS but I have tons to catch up to already. So unless this is going to be getting hot reviews I mite have to skip on it until it drops down in price a year latter.

oldjadedgamer

11-14-2007, 06:42 PM

The bias thing gets really old. In all my years as a gamer I've noticed that everyone is always against the machine not in front. Last gen everyone was biased against the cube and xbox and gave PS2 all the attention. Then the gen before that everyone was biased against the N64 and Saturn and gave Playstation all the attention, then the gen before that everyone was biased against the Genesis and the SNES got most of the attention.

Give it up. No one is biased except for the super fanboy sites and they will freely admit it. More people in the US have a 360 right now and not a PS3. Deal with it.

Infinity

11-19-2007, 06:14 AM

But the picture of the box that was at the bottom of the post? Guess which platform it was for.

I recall reading somewhere that Microsoft has furnished the big review sites with screen capture software that hooks into the Xbox 360 just as they did on the original Xbox. This lets them make high-quality screen snapshots of the action. Sony hasn't done this, neither has Nintendo, which means that guess which version is far easier to get *independent* screen shots for, not taken by the publisher.

Sure the ones from the publisher might be just fine, and the previewers and reviewers might not think they need to take their own, but I'm wishing Sony put that functionality into the PS3 systems the way you can do it now after the latest patch in Resistance, with just a USB keyboard.

That way if there's a visual feature you think needs kudos or a drubbing, you can take a snapshot and do it yourself as part of the review.

Dukefrukem

11-19-2007, 09:25 AM

360 gets Bioshock, PS3 gets Haze.

silly Rabbit.

Bioshock is also on the PC.

Kamalot

11-19-2007, 12:03 PM

silly Rabbit.

Bioshock is also on the PC.

Does that somehow lessen the awesomeness that is Bioshock on the 360? Unreal Tournament III is also on the PC and PS3. Does that make the PS3 version any less valid?

Dukefrukem

11-19-2007, 01:46 PM

Does that somehow lessen the awesomeness that is Bioshock on the 360? Unreal Tournament III is also on the PC and PS3. Does that make the PS3 version any less valid?

he made it seem like it was exclusive to the 360, like Haze is exclusive to the PS3

Katana-Wolf

11-19-2007, 02:40 PM

I doubt it will remain exclusive to the PS3 (following TimeSplitters), anywho, my reactions to the game have been "meh" for a long time too. But lately (after dissapointment in all the "GOTY" titles) I'm getting my hopes up for a pleasant surprise!

Infinity

11-26-2007, 12:34 PM

Drugs are bad, m'kay? (http://www.aeropause.com/archives/2007/11/santa_comes_early_haze_is_dela.php).

The Official PlayStation Magazine (issue 1, what PSM became) has a preview of Haze and the Mantel soldier portion seemed mildly interesting. A demo will be key to selling this game to the shooter crowd.

Sandman

11-26-2007, 12:35 PM

Kamalot

11-29-2007, 01:26 PM

I saw something on CNN about how the mercenaries of Blackwater have been suspected of injecting themselves with steroids and having 'roid rages' while on the battlefield. Reminded me a bit of Haze.

Here's a link (http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=315509)

Schnoogs

11-29-2007, 01:29 PM

Wasn't this the game that Miyamoto didn't like at E3 or am I thinking of something else?

I thought Miyamoto hated everything?

Kamalot

11-29-2007, 01:36 PM

I thought Miyamoto hated everything?

You know that Miyamoto dude... just brimming with hate.

Ultima Thulian

11-29-2007, 11:05 PM

Schnoogs has a point though. He's been known to be very...um, "strong" towards other games. It's the one thing that irks me about him. He slammed Donkey Kong Country something fierce and basically ripped Rareware a new one. He can be a very critical guy.

Also, I think people need to give this game a benefit of the doubt. Most people here haven't played it yet, but seem to already know it is going to suck, despite the fact the game is being made by the same folks who brought us Goldeneye and Timesplitters.

That's not to say the game is gonna rock, but people need to quit chugging the haterade.

Also, someone asked what was the PS3's demographic and upcoming exclusives. I'll take a crack at that:

Demographic: Males in their late teens and early adulthood, videophiles, and PS2 fans.

Exclusives expected in 2008: MGS4, White Knight, Disgaea 3, Final Fantasy XIII, Haze (http://kotaku.com/gaming/playstation-3/ubisoft-delays-haze-to-2008-324971.php), Gran Turismo 5, Killzone 2, Socom Confrontation, etc. Probably a bunch of Japanese titles I'm forgetting as well.

Also, Kelegacy has a damn good point. Obviously, everyone has bias, and that's fine. Hell, one can hate or love a company as much as they want. But when it comes to the News and In-House, that's were we are to be professional. And professionals don't let their bias get in the way of their job. It's what seperates the good from the amateur fuckwit.

Thankfully, I do think EvAv does a decent job of keeping bias in check, but we should never be content. Always strive for improving. If we wish to be taken seriously, then let's get this fucking shit right. Keep the haterade and the fanboy gravy at home.

And yes, Gorvi would make a good red. Not because he's the snake to Kam's mongoose...or the mongoose to his snake...Look. I don't know animals. But I do know this. Gorvi has the ability to make a good red, and in this push for respectability, I imagine the other reds need all the help they can get. :)