Take-Two Sued

[Varsity]

GameSpot reports (http://www1.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/27/news_6129836.html)

GTA publisher Take-Two has had a class action lawsuit filed against it by 'Florence Cohen, [who] claims she was "damaged" after learning of the sex minigames hidden in San Andreas, as she had bought what she thought was an M-for-Mature-rated game for her grandson'. The lawsuit charges Take-Two and Rockstar with "unfair business practices, consumer deception and false advertising," according to the AP.

What the hell did Take2 do? At least sue the right people!

Editor: Here comes the opportunist.

[thecrazyd]

Oooh ooh! I wanna sue them! I played the game and it made me totally bang a chick! I demand reperations.

[zangster]

I'm curious to know how old her grandson is, considering she purchased a Mature rated game for him.

[Mrbunchypants]

I'm curious to know how old her grandson is, considering she purchased a Mature rated game for him.

same thing i was thinking. :confused:

[Pluvious]

Will the stupidity EVER end?? >SIGH<

[DeadPixel]

I would like to sue Take 2 for the misleading the average cosumer ==> ME. Why does EB make me pay twice for 2 copies of San Andreas?

[Derwin]

I'm gonna sue every game developer for false advertising if I bought the game thinking it was good and ended up not liking it.

[Zeal]

She has no case.

[Blue]

I would like to sue Take 2 for the misleading the average cosumer ==> ME. Why does EB make me pay twice for 2 copies of San Andreas?

Um....did you trade it in? Cause if you did, then you should have to buy it again. If you didn't and you still own it, why do you need a second copy?

[TheKeck]

Um....did you trade it in? Cause if you did, then you should have to buy it again. If you didn't and you still own it, why do you need a second copy?

I was assuming this person was being ironic. I could be wrong, though?

[fitbabits]

Jesus fucking Christ Almighty! This is so absolutely wrong on so many levels...

Don't you need a bunch of people all similarly 'damaged' to file a class action suit? If this is successful, could similar suits be filed, eventually leading to the demise of Rockstar?

[MSUStud911]

She won't get jack. What are the damages? Gimme a break! This is just free publicity for some asshole lawyer.

[Blue]

I was assuming this person was being ironic. I could be wrong, though?

Eh, you're probably right. It's late. Like....4:40 in the afternoon late. Yeah.

[TheKeck]

I want to sue BlahBlah Brand movie producers. I bought a movie rated NC-17 for my five year old and upon further review, I'm convinced it should have been rated double, if not triple, X!

[Zawath]

I'm suing condom companies because I just learned that you can actually use them for sex and you don't even have to be 18 to buy them.

[hideouslywrinkled]

I'm curious to know how old her grandson is, considering she purchased a Mature rated game for him.

He was 14! Check it out:

A woman upset that she bought the video game "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" for her 14-year-old grandson without knowing it contained hidden, sexually explicit scenes sued the manufacturer Wednesday on behalf of consumers nationwide.

Found here. (http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/fun.games/07/27/game.lawsuit.ap/index.html?section=cnn_latest)

[bapenguin]

ya...now the store that sold it to her should turn around and sue her. and then social services should sue her for providing the game to a minor. and then I should sue her for being a god damn fuck tard.

[Hugenex]

Now how does this grandma know about GTA:SA rating change? Was she watching Home and Garden channel and her favorite program was interrupted by News Flash that led her to suddenly realize that her retarded grandson is getting damaged the fuck out of him while playing GTA. Come on this is what normal people call bullshit.

[smoonshine5]

Now how does this grandma know about GTA:SA rating change? Was she watching Home and Garden channel and her favorite program was interrupted by News Flash that led her to suddenly realize that her retarded grandson is getting damaged the fuck out of him while playing GTA. Come on this is what normal people call bullshit.
I find it amusing that its only the interactive sex that is damaging. Watching strippers and watching the character bang prostitutes is ok, but to control it oh no!
Yeah total BS!

[PotatoNinja]

I'd be suprised is this suit went anywhere. Hopefully Take Two beats the hell out of her (legally speaking) for filing a bogus lawsuit.

[zorper]

Off topic but came to my mind:

With all the shit going on around this planet and we humans are worried about this???

This proves that evolution can't possibly be true. No way a process that constantly selects and improves an organism could but US at the top of the food chain...

[Chiron]

"Who told you to put the balm on? Did I tell you to the put the balm on? I didn't tell you to put the balm on! Who told you to put the balm on?"

[metroid composite]

What the hell did Take2 do? At least sue the right people!
Precisely: sue Congress and the media for making her grandson know about the hidden content in the first place!

[RandomViolence]

Simply stunning. I'm thinking about becoming a sort of misanthropic vigilante. I'll cleanse the world of idiotic grandmothers by beating the tar out of them and denying them Matlock for the rest of their days.

[Deadend]

I want to beat the hell out of those who do pointless lawsuits. Fuck, too lazy to do that. I will sue them for being stupid and sueing everyone about everything.

[Mondopest]

This is absolutely insane. I cannot believe some people....

First, she bought her 14 year old grandson a mature rated game that clearly states 17+ on it. Second, she bought him a game called 'Grand Theft Auto' chock full of killing and all sorts of proper villain activity in it. Imagine that, right out of the 'mature' rated box her 14 year old grandson was killin hookers after receiving sex from them, stealing cars, and engaging in plain old fashioned murder! Now shes upset? Over something that is not even playable stock? What this lady doesnt realize is that her 14 year old kid is probably whackin his jimmy to every pornographic movie/photo he can get online. 'Hot coffee' is probably the least damaging for his psyche, especially considering that a 14 year old can get his sticky hands on any form of fetish material he wants...

This lady is an opportunistic, hypocritical, and extremely stupid human being for even trying to sue over this - especially under this pretense.

[Draknodred]

This is ridiculous... she bought a Mature rated game (17+) for her 14 year old son... So shouldn't she be in trouble in the first place right? For giving him a game that the ESRB ratings said she shouldn't? It's ridiculous, she should of checked the M rating anyway and not given him the game anyway... Adults Only rating is only 1 more year in age... absolutely unbelievable how greedy people are.

[SteveRage]

So the copius amounts of killing, which the average person will never actually witness, let alone take part in, is just fine and dandy. Yet, show a little sex, which everyone is will more than likely partake of is forbidden? It strikes me as odd that the "lawmakers" (opportunists) seem to have thier eye on seeing that it's OK to depopulate the species, but god forbid you see a tit.


(edit) to everyone surprised at the old lady trying to sue, you all must be forgetting that in America, there is no personal responsibilty for your actions unless someone can sue you for large wads of cash.

[screwtape]

Now how does this grandma know about GTA:SA rating change?
It's gotten a surprising amount of news coverage. A few people I know, completely non-gamers, know about the mod, the rating change, the whole fiasco. I think it's been featured on CNN and a bunch of other major news networks.

"Our top story... do your kids have access to digital pornography? We're not talking about the internet or TV shows or peer-to-peer networks or DVDs or pay-per-view... we're talking about your children's videogames."

[Liquidize105]

Hey, there's a comic almost identical to this, coincidentally.

http://www.comicspage.com/comicspage/main.jsp?catid=1211&custid=69&file=20050722edshe-a-p.jpg&code=edshe&dir=/sheneman

[Hugenex]

It's gotten a surprising amount of news coverage. A few people I know, completely non-gamers, know about the mod, the rating change, the whole fiasco. I think it's been featured on CNN and a bunch of other major news networks.

"Our top story... do your kids have access to digital pornography? We're not talking about the internet or TV shows or peer-to-peer networks or DVDs or pay-per-view... we're talking about your children's videogames."


Must have been a slow news day.

[Nesta]

All right, THAT'S IT! So damn sick of idiots in this country of mine. Sick, sick, sick of them. He was 14 and she bought him a (M)ature game and now she wants to sue because it should of been AO!?!?!?.

How's Canada this time of year?

[snubber]

grumpy old man says: "Back in my day, we didn't have this moral depravity rotting the minds of youth and destroying the culture of decency I fought for so bravely in dubya-dubya two. Now-a-days we feed kids depraved pixelated images of a woman's hoobies and call it entertainment! Rubbish!! In my day, we had morals and standards. It was a simpler time, a time when a kid could entertain himself for days with just some jacks, a yo-yo, or even with the simple joy of picking up prostitutes, driving over pedestrians, then rampaging through a gang of coppers with a chainsaw.

[Kelegacy]

I'm curious to know how old her grandson is, considering she purchased a Mature rated game for him.

I think the state she lives in should sue her for child endangerment. If her son is too young for boobies and vag, he's too young for GTA.

Draw and quarter the slut!

[Kelegacy]

All right, THAT'S IT! So damn sick of idiots in this country of mine. Sick, sick, sick of them. He was 14 and she bought him a (M)ature game and now she wants to sue because it should of been AO!?!?!?.

How's Canada this time of year?

Hey, we can share the same U-Haul if you want. Save some cash.

[Testcase]

True story: We were discussing the Hot Coffee story at work and one guy says

guy1: I'm outraged. It's TOTALLY wrong to have that kind of stuff in a video game. I don't want my kids to see that!

Me: Is there anything in GTA you ARE okay with them seeing?

guy1: Of course not!

Me: Then WHAT o WHAT is the fucking problem here?

guy1: *blustery silence* You don't understand because you don't have kids.

Me: Ah. I see. Children make you stupid. Remind me to avoid that.

[Bubby]

I lost more than a few IQ points by reading this thread. :(

[hg321]

True story: We were discussing the Hot Coffee story at work and one guy says

guy1: I'm outraged. It's TOTALLY wrong to have that kind of stuff in a video game. I don't want my kids to see that!

Me: Is there anything in GTA you ARE okay with them seeing?

guy1: Of course not!

Me: Then WHAT o WHAT is the fucking problem here?

guy1: *blustery silence* You don't understand because you don't have kids.

Me: Ah. I see. Children make you stupid. Remind me to avoid that.

You should have said, "Then don't fucking buy it!!!"

[Dirty Harry]

All right, THAT'S IT! So damn sick of idiots in this country of mine. Sick, sick, sick of them. He was 14 and she bought him a (M)ature game and now she wants to sue because it should of been AO!?!?!?.

How's Canada this time of year?
Pretty good actually, You yanks might enjoy the vibe canada has, and for you american brothers, canada dont mind any of you. I have black friends from america and when they come down to ontario, they tell me they notice they dont get so much negative juju.

[Conner Dain]

I'm suing this woman because the very fact that someone as obviously stupid exists, makes me want to kill myself.

[Adam Blue]

Off topic but came to my mind:

With all the shit going on around this planet and we humans are worried about this???

This proves that evolution can't possibly be true. No way a process that constantly selects and improves an organism could but US at the top of the food chain...

No, this actually proves evolution to be true. Recent medical discoveries negate the process of natural selection and/or survival of the fitest, allowing the weaker and dumb as shit population to continue to reproduce.

[FunkyPoopMonkey]

I'm suing this woman because the very fact that someone as obviously stupid exists, makes me want to kill myself.
You'd have a much better case then she has.

[Testcase]

I'm going to sue Conner for his winnings since his mentioning wanting to kill himself has "damaged" me.

[NACIONAL]

This proves that evolution can't possibly be true. No way a process that constantly selects and improves an organism could but US at the top of the food chain...

Actualy, Evolution Exists... Due to medical improvements over the years, the stupid and weaker people are able to reach an age where they could get laid...... BAN MEDICINE.


About the subject here, well..., i think i saw the last piece of common sense of USA passing by my window here in Medellín.

(edit) beat me to the puch about evolution...

[balamoor]

How's Canada this time of year?

I love Toronto, and Edmonton....but I just got back from Montreal....and that place gives me the creeps, I can't put my finger on it but there is something very unsettling about that city.

[fndarkone]

I love Toronto, and Edmonton....but I just got back from Montreal....and that place gives me the creeps, I can't put my finger on it but there is something very unsettling about that city.
its french?

[balamoor]

its french?

No because I love Paris and New Orleans, so its not the French thing....

[MrMeatshake]

wow. just wow...

oh, and bapenguin: lol.

[Phades]

I have a kid. I wouldn't let her near GTA. Of course, I try and practice PARENTING. Guess that's just too much for some people.

True story: We were discussing the Hot Coffee story at work and one guy says

guy1: I'm outraged. It's TOTALLY wrong to have that kind of stuff in a video game. I don't want my kids to see that!

Me: Is there anything in GTA you ARE okay with them seeing?

guy1: Of course not!

Me: Then WHAT o WHAT is the fucking problem here?

guy1: *blustery silence* You don't understand because you don't have kids.

Me: Ah. I see. Children make you stupid. Remind me to avoid that.

[Thenetcase]

I too, am a little confused why a grandma would buy her 14 y/o Grandson a game in which the word "nigger", "Fuck", "cunt", "motherfucker", "asshole", "spick", "damn mexican", "fucking nigger", "shitbag", "shit", "fucktard", etc... are used. Oh and then she's SHOCKED that it contains sex? In light of the words I just listed, the SEX part is a minor side-effect, isn't it? Think about it for a minute...
Gee, I wonder what her grandson's going to get more long-lasting bad effects from? Seeing two people doing something found in nature or becoming a racist, cursing man (just like the rest of us).
The problem is that she bought a game made for people who are already accustomed to this behavior ... for a fourteen year old CHILD!! She should be ripped a new one by the judge (and her damn lawyer should have his testicles sawed off with a rusty saw, just because I hate lawyers like that).

Peace,
-TNC-

[51|RandoM]

Eh, be funny when she wins. It isn't that farfetched to think she will, although I expect damages to be non-existant.

Simple fact of the matter is they slid content past the ESRB that should've yielded a different rating. They either did it purposely(real bad), or negligently(still bad enough to get sued).

Welcome to America, land of the lawyers, home of the litigated.

[Stooby]

Had the content actually been shown to the ESRB it would not have warranted a higher rating. The people are fully clothed for fucks sake. It just got a higher rating because the ESRB was pissed that Rockstar slid something past them. Which was, probably, not intentional. They just either forgot they had it in the game, or didn't think it was a big deal since it was only unlockable by breaking the EULA.

[snubber]

They are not fully clothed. You can see the woman's itty bitty titties.

[KamaItachi]

A woman upset that she bought the video game "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" for her 14-year-old grandson without knowing it contained hidden, sexually explicit scenes sued the manufacturer Wednesday on behalf of consumers nationwide.

Wow, I envy you folks over there, having someone ready to stand up to the filth and do what's right in a heroic display of altruism.

So if she wins, how much do you guys reckon you'll get? She's gonna share it all, right?

[Crabby]

Buwhahahaha, what bullshit! What deliciously insane bullshit!

[Paranoia]

If she wins, expect landslide of lawsuits and Rockstar going bust.

[Thenetcase]

Actually, this being a class-action lawsuit... you have to opt-in to it. If you don't, you don't get anything AND no one else can sue them for the same thing.

Nice.

[Crabby]

If she wins I am building a bunker.

[Cuba]

This proves that evolution can't possibly be true. No way a process that constantly selects and improves an organism could but US at the top of the food chain...Natural selection is pretty much negligible now, our medical care is so advaced now that even the most retarded (in the medical sense) can procreate. It may sound harsh, but it is to our species disadvantage for them to reproduce, it will probably be one of the causes for the downfall of our civilisation.

The irony about this is that the kid probably only found out about the hotcoffee mod from the media, or did the grandma install it for him too?

Anyone else think this whole hotcoffee thing has been blown way out of proportion?

[Adam Blue]

Natural selection is pretty much negligible now, our medical care is so advaced now that even the most retarded (in the medical sense) can procreate. It may sound harsh, but it is to our species disadvantage for them to reproduce, it will probably be one of the causes for the downfall of our civilisation.

C'mon I already replied to that and then someone else even did it after me!

[Cuba]

C'mon I already replied to that and then someone else even did it after me!Yeah, but I had already typed it out by the time I read your post, and being environmentally friendly, I didn't want to waste the energy I had used to write it. :D

[BigJonno]

I blame whatever complete muppet thought that you need to differentiate between 17 and 18 year olds in terms of content. Where the heck did that stupid idea come from?

[Blue]

I blame whatever complete muppet thought that you need to differentiate between 17 and 18 year olds in terms of content. Where the heck did that stupid idea come from?

I'm going to go with the fact that, technically, an 18 is allowed to sign up and die for our country and a 17 year old isn't. Has to do with what people collectively think is the age where one reaches maturity/adulthood and can thus dress themselves.

[Arcon]

Read about this here (http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/8839/Grandma-Sues-Rockstar-Over-San-Andreas/) as well. It boggles the mind though, how she thinks that she needs $5m. I get duped into buying something i didnt want, the max i want back is probably the price of whatever i bought. This is overkill to the extreme, not to mention how bullshit the whole ordeal is. This will get hilariously thrown out. Maybe Take 2 will have a 10 year old child as their defence lawyer? I'm sure he might be able to point out how dumb Mrs Choen is.Laurence D. Paskowitz, the lawyer who filed the lawsuit on behalf of Cohen, said no parent would knowingly buy an AO (adult-only) game for their children.
No, but it seems every parent, grandparent, friend of the family and well-meaning associate buys kids M (mature) rated games for the children.

Is AO the only think that people take into consideration?

[IagoTheHunted]

hahahahHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. What's she fucking kidding?!?!? Can we all please start ignoreing these idiots in the vain hope that they'll go away?? Seriously here I'm starting to get an tumor reading all this crap, I can feel it.

[OUX]

Hey try to sue her for giving you a tumor, it probably has just as much of a chance as her case's.

[Spigot]

All right, THAT'S IT! So damn sick of idiots in this country of mine. Sick, sick, sick of them. He was 14 and she bought him a (M)ature game and now she wants to sue because it should of been AO!?!?!?.

How's Canada this time of year?

Aside from having suffered through yet ANOTHER heat wave this summer (oh please let August be somewhat temperate!) it's quite nice.

Come for our trees, stay for our rocks.

Thankfully you can't file frivolous lawsuits up here. You CAN file suits against really wierd things if you can somehow involve the charter of rights & freedoms (ie. you are being discriminated at work because they're firing you for drinking even though you're an alcoholic and alcoholism is a disease and you can't fire someone for having a disease, can you?).

You can't sue McDonalds for making you fat or Tim Hortons for giving you hot coffee that you decide to stick between your legs and spill on your crotch.

[Spigot]

I love Toronto, and Edmonton....but I just got back from Montreal....and that place gives me the creeps, I can't put my finger on it but there is something very unsettling about that city.

I've never really cared for Montreal. It's Toronto with bilingual signs and even more attitude. Now Quebec City is gorgeous, especially the historic Old City.

[Mrbunchypants]

Just so we are all on the same page, lets recap.

Granny bought an M rated game for her granson of 15 years of age.
Then she finds out about the "hot coffee" mod.
Then sue's take two.

If I'm not mistaken the mod is only availble over the net. that means that the little granson, If infact he does have the mod, went online, the place where one can find any and all forms of porn and out bad stuff eg: bomb makeing plans, ect... , downloaded and install the mod. Then loaded up the game to take CJ (your in game persona) to his girlfriends house for a date. after finishing the date and getting ask back for some "hot coffee". She(granmamma) happend to be in the room at the time of the coffee offering.

did I missing anything?

[splatstick]

As it said in NEWSWEEK, for Christ's sakes:
"The simulated sex scene is a red herring- any kid who is savvy enough to download codes to hack a game is certainly clever enough to find real pornography on the Internet."
If the kid wants to see some dry-humping action, there's the whole internet to turn to. Can we include that in the class-action suit?

[Shodan2020]

Canada is looking better and better all the time.

I have relatives up there. Maybe I should visit them for awhile.

[Arcon]

Whilst mothers and opportunist lawyers around the world are unified in their outrage, i wonder how re-invigorated GTA's sales are, bearing in mind the game HAS been out for nearly a year now. I would have thought most who were going to buy the game have already done so, i wonder how many more have picked it up due to this press attention or merely to see what all the fuss is about.

[OUX]

The problem is that here in America we have inundated the populace with a suing culture. People are looking for their chance to sue someone and get freakin rich on someone else’s dollar. They think it is ok because they take money from faceless businesses and even malpractice suits are running rampant. It used to be that everyone thought doctors were rich or at least well off and some are being run out of business now because some retard went to the doctor, didn’t follow the instructions given to him, and got even worse. Insurance for doctors and other businesses is higher than ever because someone can now get a 3 million dollar settlement from sticking their dick in a pencil sharpener even when it is obvious to the ENTIRE world that that man’s penis should not have been there.

[jsimonson0]

I'm curious to know how old her grandson is, considering she purchased a Mature rated game for him.

The kid is 14. I'm not surprised that she'd buy a game with that much violence as part of the game's objective, but flips out over sexual content...

Edit: D'oh! Should have read the whole thread before replying with info already posted.

[splatstick]

...i wonder how many more have picked it up due to this press attention or merely to see what all the fuss is about.

According to my local paper, the second highest selling video game last week was GTA. Unfortunately, I don't know what its standing was the week before that...

[Cpt.Justice]

"Who told you to put the balm on? Did I tell you to the put the balm on? I didn't tell you to put the balm on! Who told you to put the balm on?"

Now THAT's who we need on the case.

[Himsa II]

As it said in NEWSWEEK, for Christ's sakes:
"The simulated sex scene is a red herring- any kid who is savvy enough to download codes to hack a game is certainly clever enough to find real pornography on the Internet."
If the kid wants to see some dry-humping action, there's the whole internet to turn to. Can we include that in the class-action suit?
0wn3d.

They will just show this to the lady, and laugh her right out of goddamn court. :ecksdee:

and yes, we should just sue the whole goddamn internet, and get it over with.

WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU STARTED HILLARY CLINTON!!!!! :mad: :mad:

[TheMayor87]

you think hidden code in a game is bad? pfff. did you know that just miles away from your home the GOVERNMENT is giving people weapons and training them to hurt people. they call it the army, but a more alarmist name would be: The KILL-BOT Factory!!

[Himsa II]

GET OUTTA HERE YA HIPPIE!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[OUX]

you think hidden code in a game is bad? pfff. did you know that just miles away from your home the GOVERNMENT is giving people weapons and training them to hurt people. they call it the army, but a more alarmist name would be: The KILL-BOT Factory!!


Thats classic Simpsons man.