Xbox 360 comes with HD Component cables

[Pigeon]

According to the XBOX 360 retail training website, HD Component Cables come standard with the XBOX 360.

Editor: Thanks, Pigeon, for a firm dose of reality.

[Adam Blue]

sweeeeeeeeeet.

plus some

[Heretic Machine]

Well, I hope it also comes with RCA cables, since that is what the extremly high majority of us will be using.

[Groo]

Well, I hope it also comes with RCA cables, since that is what the extremly high majority of us will be using.

I feel deeply sorry for the majority of you.

[netcraazzy]

Didn't they announce this way back at E3, I could have swore I read this somewhere before.

[Heretic Machine]

I feel deeply sorry for the majority of you.

Feel free to send me $800 so I can buy a decent size HDTV.

[petedog]

Well, I hope it also comes with RCA cables, since that is what the extremly high majority of us will be using.

Uhh... I am just gonna assume this is sarcasm. I mean I cannot believe that a person wouldn't understand that component video cables are essentially high quality RCA cables with different colors.

[Heretic Machine]

Uhh... I am just gonna assume this is sarcasm. I mean I cannot believe that a person wouldn't understand that component video cables are essentially high quality RCA cables with different colors.

Could have a whole lot to do with not ever owning an HDTV.

[H.M._Murdock]

There is an extra yellow cable on the component cable, in addition to RGB, so no need to worry about needing to buy an extra.

[anakin876]

Umm, I think he meant "I hope it comes with composite video cables" rather than "rca cables." Anyone who tries to just plug one of the component video cables into their composite video in should have a lot of fun playing their xbox 360. As for RGB - component is (sadly) not RGB. It is still compressed video. check the first few paragraphs here for a better explanation. http://www.projectorcentral.com/component.htm

[KasterTroy]

There is an extra yellow cable on the component cable, in addition to RGB, so no need to worry about needing to buy an extra.

I believe that he is correct, here is pic i dug up on the HD AV cables: Picture (http://www.gamersreports.com/hosted/images/360_HD_Adapter.jpg)
Notice the extra yellow composite cable.

[anakin876]

INteresting - stereo audio, component and composite video. Too bad they did not include s-video. Many moderately older TVs have svideo but not component - and the difference between svideo and composite is usually HUGE.

[Bubby]

What? No DVI?

[sTubbs]

INteresting - stereo audio, component and composite video. Too bad they did not include s-video. Many moderately older TVs have svideo but not component - and the difference between svideo and composite is usually HUGE.

No shit. I was a complete skeptic about S-Video [no way was I paying $50 plus for a decent cable] until my friend forced me to try an extra cable he had. At the time I was playing Vice City [obviously not the best looking game on PS2] and I was SHOCKED at how cleaner everything looked. Even the better looking games recieved the same relative increase in visual fidelity. After seeing the improvement, I immediately ran out to Future Shop and bought me S-Video cable for both PS2 and XBOX from Monster Cables. I will accept nothing else until I can afford a decent HDTV. [One more substantial price drop can not come soon enough.]

[Tyrant]

You paid $50 for an S-Video cable? Man, if someone did a blind test on you with a generic s-video cable and a Monster one, I can practically guarantee that you won't see the difference between them.

Anyway, I find the decision to have Component cables as a default accessory nice, although I'd imagine 3rd party manufacturers might be a bit peeved. Then again, they have DVI and S-video to fall back on.

[kwillhan]

Went to a moster training thing in seattle for our store sales associates when we started selling monster, and there was visible difference the same equipment with different wires. I don't know how reliable the tests were, but there was pretty good difference.

kel

[anakin876]

What kind of equipment did they use for that monster cable training? I would really like to see two sets of equipment - high end audiophile/videophile gear and a lower end "normal user" grade of gear. The "huge" differences that may be visible/audible with monster cable may not be there for the lower grade gear.

I have heard both things - that monster does make a difference/does not change a thing. I have a friend whose father is a professional audio man (owns his audio/video contracting company and did a lot of recording 20-30 years ago) so I have seen and heard a system that used a LOT of monster cable - but I never got my friend to set up a shoot out between cables - but - his Dad seems to think the difference is there.

[Bubby]

Monster cables are better and Bose is the best audio equipment!

Fools.

[mister_slim]

Hopefully, this time around MS will provide a output that will work with my crappy TV and my nice surround setup.

[Atorak]

*shudders at the thought of paying for any Monster OR Bose products*

Honestly folks, being an audio/videophile here, with good/great equipment, trust me, you can see/hear the difference. But, on normal gear, save your cash. The difference won't be as great.

Wish they would include HDMI or DVI, but I guess that's too much to hope for in a next generation console. *sigh*

[51|RandoM]

If svideo looks noticeably better than composite on your tv, that just means your tv has a shitty comb filter. With a good comb filter, svideo will still be better, but not by much.

Can't remember the last time I had to use either.

[koopy]

There is an extra yellow cable on the component cable, in addition to RGB, so no need to worry about needing to buy an extra.


The video connection on the XBOX360 will most likely be a non-standard plug so we will most likely have to buy a new cable for each connection. It will be no different than what we do for today's consoles.

HD is moving towards HDMI nowadays. One connector for Video and Audio.

[MrMeatshake]

/me stamps his feet...

but will we get any of the HDTV goodness in europe, this time!?

[TRiLoGY]

/me stamps his feet...

but will we get any of the HDTV goodness in europe, this time!?

hmmm.. Hopefully

[da.Guvna]

Ok, so which is the better option out of RGB-SCART and S-Video? I've been running my Xbox off SCART in AV1 thinking that was the best option....am I wrong?

[TRiLoGY]

Ok, so which is the better option out of RGB-SCART and S-Video? I've been running my Xbox off SCART in AV1 thinking that was the best option....am I wrong?

Well.. im no expert but I would go for S-Video, because I think one of my friends recommended it to me once.. I could be wrong though!

Off Topic: Oh, and I went to Portsmouth Uni da.Guvna :)

[Sinistar]

Monster cables are better and Bose is the best audio equipment!

Fools.


WAAAAAAAAAAAA - too funny!

Again, like someone else said here. If you're running a moderate to high-end audio/video system then Monster cables are the way to go. But if you're just running the audio from your old RCA 27inch TV through your Fisher/GE/Emerson stereo then stick with the cheapest cables that will do the job.

For those of you wishing to go the HD route - well, getting a job right about now might be a good answer to many of your problems ;)

[score]

Ok, so which is the better option out of RGB-SCART and S-Video? I've been running my Xbox off SCART in AV1 thinking that was the best option....am I wrong?

I'm no expert in these matters either but I think RGB-SCART is better that S-Video. RGB-SCART carries the R, G and B signals seperately where as S-VIDEO carries two signals, the luminance and the color (which is RGB combined I think). The differnce between component and S-VIDEO is that component combines the signals for color and luminance together which leads to further degradation.

Again, I might be wrong here, but shit. I use an RGB-SCART for my Gamecube and was always under the impression that it was the best way to go....

[trip1eX]

if you have component cables than you have composite cables. just use the same matching color on both ends and ignore the others.

course this won't work with the 360 since one end is proprietary, but....

[Groo]

Feel free to send me $800 so I can buy a decent size HDTV.

My TV has component video input, and it's not an HDTV. And it cost me closer to $250 than $800. And, it's 27".

[da.Guvna]

Ok cool. I always suspected RGB was the way to go, but always nice to have it confirmed by other internet 'tards :)


Off Topic: Oh, and I went to Portsmouth Uni da.Guvna :)
I also went to Pompey Uni...just graduated this summer...woo, yay, etc. :)

[Pigeon]

Wow, I go away for a day and my topic blows up. Anyway, even though it's probably not important, I forgot to mention that microsoft's s-video cable will be sold seperately. They will also have for sale regular tv rca cables and there was no mention of an RF adapter.

[anakin876]

SCART may be RGB - I believe the SCART connector can carry a variety of signals. I believe that in your case it would be an RGB signal which should be better than the s-video.

[Groo]

no mention of an RF adapter.

At this point, those should be outlawed.

[kwillhan]

I'm no expert in these matters either but I think RGB-SCART is better that S-Video. RGB-SCART carries the R, G and B signals seperately where as S-VIDEO carries two signals, the luminance and the color (which is RGB combined I think). The differnce between component and S-VIDEO is that component combines the signals for color and luminance together which leads to further degradation.

Again, I might be wrong here, but shit. I use an RGB-SCART for my Gamecube and was always under the impression that it was the best way to go....


ure right. I had to learn that fer me job. quote from somewhere that seemed respectable, "

Good - Composite ("yellow plug") - The video signal is carried through a single "pin". This connection type is the one that is most commonly found on video devices (as of 2004/2005).

Better - S-Video - The video signal is split into two signals, giving you an even better quality picture. For example, text displayed on-screen using this connection is noticeably sharper than composite or coaxial (RF).

Best - Component - The video signal is split into three signals, two color and one black and white, giving you the best picture. Use component video to take advantage of the superior picture found in such signal sources as HDTV and progressive DVD."

kel

[kwillhan]

then there's dvi cables, that I know nothing about, but they are fing expensive, and supposedly the best, but I haven't looked into it.

kel

[TRiLoGY]

ure right. I had to learn that fer me job. quote from somewhere that seemed respectable, "

Good - Composite ("yellow plug") - The video signal is carried through a single "pin". This connection type is the one that is most commonly found on video devices (as of 2004/2005).

Better - S-Video - The video signal is split into two signals, giving you an even better quality picture. For example, text displayed on-screen using this connection is noticeably sharper than composite or coaxial (RF).

Best - Component - The video signal is split into three signals, two color and one black and white, giving you the best picture. Use component video to take advantage of the superior picture found in such signal sources as HDTV and progressive DVD."

kel

Ah.. Doh, I was thinking of Composite when da.Guvna posted about RGB..

/me Runs away...

[da.Guvna]

Is there any word on getting DVI connections for the Xbox 360? I'm planning to get a 26"/28" LCD tv in the next couple of months, which have DVI connections on them. Hooking an XB360 up to that bad boy would be awesome!

[MrMeatshake]

cheah, wish i could spare the wonga 4 dat shiz.

[Adam Blue]

DVI is pretty much OUT now. HDMI has movied in a taken over. For my HD-DVD player I use an HDMI to DVI converter for my HDTV.

[anakin876]

That's kind of sad - DVI is HDMI but with cables for audio and HDMI also includes the ability to encrypt the video.